Conan vs Predator

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Kazenji
Conan gets a short sword

The pred gets his wrist blades and Disc

the battleground is in an arena

who takes the win?

the ninjak
I love Conan but the Disc should do the job.

Robtard
Conan's camel-punch FTW.

Tron
Hmmm, hard to say. I think the novel and comic version was fighting things that put most preds to shame.

Impediment
The Yautja solos.

Rogue Jedi
The disc is an unfair advantage. Make it blade on blade and Conan wins.

the ninjak
Conan wins Blade on Blade.

Lord Shadow Z
Assuming Conan avoids the disc then he wins easily. He would probably take off a leg then finish the Predator off.

Although could the Predator's wrist blades break the sword? It is an unknown metal and the Predator is strong enough to impale a man and lift him up...not to mention he could trap the sword in his wrist blades as well and dis-arm Conan.

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
Assuming Conan avoids the disc then he wins easily. He would probably take off a leg then finish the Predator off.

Although could the Predator's wrist blades break the sword? It is an unknown metal and the Predator is strong enough to impale a man and lift him up...not to mention he could trap the sword in his wrist blades as well and dis-arm Conan. Conan won't avoid the disc.

Hanzo's sword held up just fine to the Predators blades.

Lord Shadow Z
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Conan won't avoid the disc.



Why not, it doesn't track its opponent and the only reason it killed Peter Keyes in was the fact he had several slabs of meat blocking his vision. The fight is in an arena, so no obscured vision.

Conan would keep distance and wait for it to be thrown, then drop to the floor. The disc will be embedded in some wall behind him. This isn't Kung Lao's hat, it doesnt move up and down at will, it moves in a straight, predictable line.

I'm not up-to-date with the new movie but I know it's in a jungle so that has zero bearing on whatever the disc does here.

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
Why not, it doesn't track its opponent and the only reason it killed Peter Keyes in was the fact he had several slabs of meat blocking his vision. The fight is in an arena, so no obscured vision.

Conan would keep distance and wait for it to be thrown, then drop to the floor. The disc will be embedded in some wall behind him. This isn't Kung Lao's hat, it doesnt move up and down at will, it moves in a straight, predictable line.

I'm not up-to-date with the new movie but I know it's in a jungle so that has zero bearing on whatever the disc does here. Or maybe he does haermm

BruceSkywalker
Conan is a good pit fighter, however the Pred should emerge victorious

Robtard
This is from Predator II, right? What skills did that Predator show with his wrist-blade and disc, almost none and a cop kicked its ass in a blade fight.

Conon takes this with ease.

Lord Shadow Z
Originally posted by Robtard
This is from Predator II, right? What skills did that Predator show with his wrist-blade and disc, almost none and a cop kicked its ass in a blade fight.

Conon takes this with ease.

I think it's just a generic Predator, the OP wasn't specific about that. I've already de-bunked the disc as a credible weapon because it can be avoided in the arena.

Conan would have better flexibility with the sword... the question is can the Predator use the wrist blades to 'hook' the sword away from Conan?

Robtard
A specific Predator should be specified, as they varied in talents.

Of the two blade fights in the films that I can recall, there wasn't a hooking/disarming action.

-Glover with disc Vs Predator with duo wrist-blades.

-Yakuza with katana Vs super-Predator with single wrist-blade.

Rogue Jedi
Conan's blade should hold up just fine. And Rob is gay.

BruceSkywalker
i thought about it and am changing my view.. Conan ftw

these lines win it for Conan big grin

hit play

jinXed by JaNx
The disc suggests that this match is over before it begins.

Kazenji
Originally posted by Tron
I think the novel and comic version was fighting things that put most preds to shame.

Agreed, hope the new movie represents that.

Lord Shadow Z
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
The disc suggests that this match is over before it begins.

It can be avoided in my opinion, it doesn't track the target and moves in a straight line towards the target. Conan could duck or move out of the way.

This is in an arena, no obstacles and Conan has full range of vision. Also in Pred 2 the Predator has to 'activate' the disk and then throw and that gives Conan a little bit of warning. Both should know about each others weapons, thats quite common in these threads.

It might be tricky for Conan with the short sword though, he'll have to get close and the Pred might exploit that...

Robtard
Short Sword?

He's got a 3&1/2 foot blade plus double-grip hilt.

Lord Shadow Z
Originally posted by Kazenji
Conan gets a short sword

The pred gets his wrist blades and Disc

the battleground is in an arena

who takes the win?

It says short sword in the OP Rob.

Pandemoniac
Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
Why not, it doesn't track its opponent and the only reason it killed Peter Keyes in was the fact he had several slabs of meat blocking his vision. The fight is in an arena, so no obscured vision.

Conan would keep distance and wait for it to be thrown, then drop to the floor. The disc will be embedded in some wall behind him. This isn't Kung Lao's hat, it doesnt move up and down at will, it moves in a straight, predictable line.

I'm not up-to-date with the new movie but I know it's in a jungle so that has zero bearing on whatever the disc does here.

As far as I know the disc is a homing weapon, probably why it managed to slice up Keyes hidden behind the carcasses. You can also see the Pred. charging or programming it, something that is also displayed in the comics and games.

If Conan does manage to evade or destroy the disc, which is not unlikely at all, he will close the distance in his favor and be more than a match for the Predator. 6/4 in favor of Conan.

Lord Shadow Z
Originally posted by Pandemoniac
As far as I know the disc is a homing weapon, probably why it managed to slice up Keyes hidden behind the carcasses. You can also see the Pred. charging or programming it, something that is also displayed in the comics and games.

If Conan does manage to evade or destroy the disc, which is not unlikely at all, he will close the distance in his favor and be more than a match for the Predator. 6/4 in favor of Conan.

I think the Predator, knowing where Keyes was just threw in his general direction knowing that the meat would obscure the disk coming towards him.

If it was a homing disk the disk itself would have avoided the meat entirely, perhaps going under it and then changing direction to hit Keyes in a vital area. Plus if was that sofisticated it would surely have some call back feature. I think the 'activation' seen is what powers the flight of the disk and anything else is just speculation.

Unless there is proof that the disc can 'chase' someone moving in several directions but I don't think there is any.

Pandemoniac
Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
I think the Predator, knowing where Keyes was just threw in his general direction knowing that the meat would obscure the disk coming towards him.

If it was a homing disk the disk itself would have avoided the meat entirely, perhaps going under it and then changing direction to hit Keyes in a vital area. Plus if was that sofisticated it would surely have some call back feature. I think the 'activation' seen is what powers the flight of the disk and anything else is just speculation.

Unless there is proof that the disc can 'chase' someone moving in several directions but I don't think there is any.

Good point, but as the disc is shown to be powered up, hence partially somehow self-propelled, and made of a a very durable metal, sharpened to the extreme, it only makes sense that it takes the short route through the meat obstacles. A more complex trajectory might be beyond the capabilities of the disc, and at least make it less likely to strike. If so, I would admit that it's manoeuvrability would be fairly limited, especially in enclosed environments.

Lord Shadow Z
Originally posted by Pandemoniac
Good point, but as the disc is shown to be powered up, hence partially somehow self-propelled, and made of a a very durable metal, sharpened to the extreme, it only makes sense that it takes the short route through the meat obstacles. A more complex trajectory might be beyond the capabilities of the disc, and at least make it less likely to strike. If so, I would admit that it's manoeuvrability would be fairly limited, especially in enclosed environments.

Agreed but can it do this?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCx0Q6tt8hg&feature=related

Watch from 2:36

I loved this movie when I saw it, the aliens are cool.

Dreampanther
Conan takes this - while he lived, he never saw his equal on the battlefield - frequently beating opponents with superhuman strength and inhuman abilities - from being born on a battlefield, he grew up to break the neck of a Cimmerian bull before he was a full-grown man - he eventually became the king of the mightiest nation of his time - he was BORN for battles like this!

Pandemoniac
Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
Agreed but can it do this?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCx0Q6tt8hg&feature=related

Watch from 2:36

I loved this movie when I saw it, the aliens are cool.

I've seen that movie, loved it too! In that one, the alien's killer frisbee is sensitive to the electromagnetic profile of humans, seemingly enough to steer it right at vital arteries and even fly on to several more targets.
Rather implausible. The Pred. disc apparently requires targeting, programming and then probably has more realistic self-steering methods like fins or small propulsion engines, something we humans will be able to produce sometime soon.

Back to the fight at hand please. So, let's say the disc is homing, but not too good at changing it's trajectory. Conan is used to facing adversaries using ranged weapons and has an eye for predicting their strategies.
I'd say Conan is by far the better close combatant of the 2 as well.

Rogue Jedi
CQC, Conan rips the Predator a new *******.

the ninjak
Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
Agreed but can it do this?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCx0Q6tt8hg&feature=related

Watch from 2:36

I loved this movie when I saw it, the aliens are cool.

It's called Dark Angel in my country. Others "I come in peace".

Lord Shadow Z
Originally posted by the ninjak
It's called Dark Angel in my country. Others "I come in peace".

It was Dark Angel when it was aired over in the U.K too. I only found about the other title from IMDB.

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