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the avengers must fight the incredibles in NYC and they may use any part of NYC tactically

the incredibles extra help include
frozone
that machine

Avengers.

Add in Syndrome and a Jack Jack in control of his powers and I can see a 180 happening.

how do avengers stop that machine while being attacked by the incredibles

I don't remember the film that well, it's been a long time.

But, lets talk about the team first.

- Dad - Hulk Smash
- Mom - Iron Man'ed or Thor Lightning'ed
- Bro - Can't hurt anyone.
- Sis - Force Fields won't hold against Thor/Hulk. She can hide I guess (I'm sure someone will say IM can see her)
- Frozone - Non-factor

I'm not prepared to argue for or against the Machine yet, I don't remember it that well, but wouldn't attacks from Iron Man/Thor wreck it? I could see Hulk punching it around but possibly not taking it out though. Even if the machine could hold its own, I should warn you everyone else is going to say Avengers win either way .

what's up with this scenario posting...
violent & her bro could easily wreck everyone who on the ground hawkeye/cap/BW

frozone is the biggest factor considering he can freeze everyone dam near instantly.

and adding syndrome whos a regular human wont help a thing

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
what's up with this scenario posting...


I don't see any scenarios...

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn

violent & her bro could easily wreck everyone who on the ground hawkeye/cap/BW


Doesn't matter, HE/Cap/BW are non-factors anyway. Violet/Dash can kill them first then get killed in return or just watch, doesn't matter. They aren't going to affect Hulk/Thor/IM.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn

frozone is the biggest factor considering he can freeze everyone dam near instantly.


Again, he isn't going to affect the important people.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn

and adding syndrome whos a regular human wont help a thing

Uh huh, even though he solo'ed the Parr family effortlessly with zero point energy? There wasn't even a fight.

so you're saying frozone can turn a small lake into snow to cushion himself from falling but cant freeze the fools?

Syndrome might solo this if he were in it. if everyone was completely immobilized they would lose. The End

Hulk could tank the Omndroid, easy.

Were Syndrome to fight, his zero point energy beams would freeze everyone, Hulk included.

Still, Avengers win.

Incredibles win, cos it was an outstanding film.

Originally posted by Impediment
Were Syndrome to fight, his zero point energy beams would freeze everyone, Hulk included.

You think? I always assumed it had limits as he didn't use it against the Omnidroid, and if it wouldn't work against the robot I don't see it working against Hulk or Thor.

Zero Point Energy is on par with the gravitational power of black holes.

It would stop Hulk.

Is it? I honestly don't recall that being stated in the movie. Does Syndrome mention it when he freezes Mr. Incredible?

Edit: Oh you mean in real life. A quick google search implies that we don't understand how Zero-point energy would gravitate fully. In fact, one article I saw suggests it should repel ratehr than attract.

OT but I was considering a fictional storyline in which people could attune their mind to become one with the Higgs field, and thus manipulate zero-point energy, to achieve telekinesis and other goodies. Does this sound plausible?