Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.

Movie versions!
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8190/613009-609009_watchmen_comedian_super_large.jpg

vs

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/43469/2494887-bane_by_devil_glonk_d58eyk11_large.jpg

The Comedian. Stronger, faster and tougher.

bane.

really? I recall Comedian being superhumanly strong, punching out chunks of concrete, during his fight with Ozy, as well as having superspeed and accuracy too.

Bane was strong, but not quite a match for Comedian, imo.

bane was taking chunks out of a concrete pillar (damn near caved the thing in), and he was more skilled than batman, who was more skilled than a group of ra's' hand-ninjas, who were among the best fighters in the world.

imo, the comedian wasn't quite on bane's level.

I think its a great matchup.

Originally posted by janus77
really? I recall Comedian being superhumanly strong, punching out chunks of concrete, during his fight with Ozy, as well as having superspeed and accuracy too.

Bane was strong, but not quite a match for Comedian, imo.
Just checked the fight Comedian punched a very little piece of a wall off then he punched through some wood.
Bane left a huge hole in that pillar he wins easily.

I would say Bane. The Comedian may get a few good hits in but that may be it.

hmm, I thought the Comedian's demolition job on the apartment walls, whilst fighting Ozy showed a lot more strength. Bane did tear a chunk out of a pillar, but that's about it, iirc. And Bane was eventually matched by Batman.

Bane was more peak (movie/comic) human, whereas The Comedian was shown as being somewhat superhuman.

Remember Batman's been out of commission for 8yrs, he's nothing like as fit and capable as he was in his prime, so Bane's performances against him have to be judged accordingly. Batman's body is not in good nick, as the doctor establishes early on.

Originally posted by Estacado
Just checked the fight Comedian punched a very little piece of a wall off then he punched through some wood.
Bane left a huge hole in that pillar he wins easily.
hmm, I'll have to re-watch that fight scene, I remember him punching through the wall, with one of his wild swings.

Originally posted by janus77
hmm, I thought the Comedian's demolition job on the apartment walls, whilst fighting Ozy showed a lot more strength. Bane did tear a chunk out of a pillar, but that's about it, iirc. And Bane was eventually matched by Batman.

Bane was more peak (movie/comic) human, whereas The Comedian was shown as being somewhat superhuman.

Remember Batman's been out of commission for 8yrs, he's nothing like as fit and capable as he was in his prime, so Bane's performances against him have to be judged accordingly. Batman's body is not in good nick, as the doctor establishes early on.
Check the fight again Comedian barely did anything mentionable...

Originally posted by janus77
hmm, I'll have to re-watch that fight scene, I remember him punching through the wall, with one of his wild swings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3e_uWFfzeU

ok, I was wrong, he punches through a wooden partition not concrete.


Bane wins this.

Originally posted by janus77
hmm, I thought the Comedian's demolition job on the apartment walls, whilst fighting Ozy showed a lot more strength. Bane did tear a chunk out of a pillar, but that's about it, iirc. And Bane was eventually matched by Batman.

Bane was more peak (movie/comic) human, whereas The Comedian was shown as being somewhat superhuman.

Remember Batman's been out of commission for 8yrs, he's nothing like as fit and capable as he was in his prime, so Bane's performances against him have to be judged accordingly. Batman's body is not in good nick, as the doctor establishes early on. batman never matched bane's skill. ever. even in round two, after batman's 'rocky-esque' comeback, bane was still picking him apart. all batman ended up doing is exploiting a weakness of bane's-- a weakness that i greatly doubt comedian would try to exploit, considering batman (with his great tactical knowledge) never attempted to do so during round one.

as far as batman's battle-worn body hindering him: his leg/knee is what was holding him back the most, and that was fixed early on after bruce donned the 'robo-brace' fox made for him and kicked through a brick wall.

Originally posted by janus77
ok, I was wrong, he punches through a wooden partition not concrete.

Wasn't even wood. It was drywall

Bane.

Doesn't the Comedian use...you know...guns?

Comedian should win.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Doesn't the Comedian use...you know...guns?

Comedian should win.

Bane uses nukes.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7nj6zt4T41rc31g3o1_400.gif

The comedian was going up against Ozy(who would stomp Bane) and putting up a fight will not at his prime.
Prime Comedian would walk all over Bane

Originally posted by SasuOna
The comedian was going up against Ozy(who would stomp Bane) and putting up a fight will not at his prime.
Prime Comedian would walk all over Bane No proof Ozy would stomp Bane. And Comedian got his ass kicked by Ozy. But Comedian still wins this fight.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No proof Ozy would stomp Bane. Ozymandias would tool Bane and Batman at the same time, with no effort at all.

The fact that Comedian, who is waaaaay past his prime and being interrupted from fapping, managed to give Ozymandias a better fight than Rorshach and Dan together, implies to me that prime Comedian would take a solid majority over Bane.

Bane punches his face in

Prime Comedian definitely wins.

Originally posted by h1a8
Prime Comedian definitely wins. What about prime Bane?

prime bane is bane before he needed the mask and would be without a real weakness.

just remembered something: the bat bike was able to oneshot those tumblers that bane stole, yet he got shot by the same weapon from that bike and his body was intact

He must draw power from Jeremy Renner.

praise be upon him

Originally posted by Estacado
What's with KMC people wanking over watchmen guys? all they did is beat up a few thugs...except for Ozy..

Ozy tooled the Comedian, he only managed to push him against a wall once and than immediately got shown getting beat down again.

Originally posted by Newjak
Ozy tooled the Comedian, he only managed to push him against a wall once and than immediately got shown getting beat down again. He showed vastly superior damage soak by taking a beating from Ozymandias while going down fighting, and that he was able to actually overpower Ozymandias in a test of might was enormously impressive.

Let me put it this way: Bane would have fared much worse.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Ozymandias would tool Bane and Batman at the same time, with no effort at all.

The fact that Comedian, who is waaaaay past his prime and being interrupted from fapping, managed to give Ozymandias a better fight than Rorshach and Dan together, implies to me that prime Comedian would take a solid majority over Bane. And again, what evidence shows that Ozy would tool Bane?

Prime Comedian actually beat Ozy before (in the comics, but we never saw it just was told about it), but Comedian also got his teeth kicked in by Hooded Justice

Also really no one was impressed with Bane's strength when he one-armed lifted Batman and WALKED with him? That's an incredibly high strength feat.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
And again, what evidence shows that Ozy would tool Bane? Other than being fast enough to catch a bullet, strong enough to kick a grown, sorta fat man thirty feet, and a skilled enough combatant to tool two superhuman crime fighters at once?

Not a lot I guess.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Also really no one was impressed with Bane's strength when he one-armed lifted Batman and WALKED with him? That's an incredibly high strength feat. true. bruce, by himself, probably weighs around 200lbs. then tack on his armored suit + the misc gadgets attached to his suit, and you're probably looking in the 250-300lbs range. lifting that amount of weight with a single arm, and leisurely strolling around with it, is pretty damn impressive.

...but i would expect that from someone capable of crushing-in a concrete pillar with a single punch. /shrug

Yeah damn skippy, thats why I feel Bane would win too.

Bane would likely no sell everything Comedian threw at him.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Prime Comedian actually beat Ozy before (in the comics, but we never saw it just was told about it), but Comedian also got his teeth kicked in by Hooded Justice

Also really no one was impressed with Bane's strength when he one-armed lifted Batman and WALKED with him? That's an incredibly high strength feat.

Also Ozzy did have the advantage of having fought the Comedian before when he killed him, if he hadn't know his fighting style by then he would've had more trouble.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
And again, what evidence shows that Ozy would tool Bane? Bane wouldn't even touch Ozy, he's way too fast.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Other than being fast enough to catch a bullet, strong enough to kick a grown, sorta fat man thirty feet, and a skilled enough combatant to tool two superhuman crime fighters at once?

Not a lot I guess. But Bane is very fast too, able to tangle with Batman, IIRC he was trained by the league of shadows, but never became a member, so he is very skilled, and no doubt he has Ozy beat in the strength department. Not to mention durability, taking multiple hits from batman without flinching.
Originally posted by Brockalizer
Bane wouldn't even touch Ozy, he's way too fast. And Bane isn't fast?

Bane isn't "Ozy" fast tho...

Ozy isn't "Bane" strong

Originally posted by juggerman
Bane isn't "Ozy" fast tho... No. ButOriginally posted by iceman24567
Ozy isn't "Bane" strong

Originally posted by iceman24567
Ozy isn't "Bane" strong
Based on what? All Bane did was punch through concrete(quite a few watchmen characters can do this)
Did you see him knock a man clean across the room with just a metal standing?

Comedian would just destroy Bane

Originally posted by SasuOna
Based on what? All Bane did was punch through concrete(quite a few watchmen characters can do this)
Based on absolutely nothing.

Originally posted by juggerman
Bane isn't "Ozy" fast tho... he was walking down batman the entire time, no need to dodge

Originally posted by SasuOna
Based on what? All Bane did was punch through concrete(quite a few watchmen characters can do this)
Did you see him knock a man clean across the room with just a metal standing?

Comedian would just destroy Bane No Watchman character did that so nah

No he is stronger. He threw a grown man across a room and THRU a plate glass window that was stated to only "crack" if hit by a speeding car. That is much greater than anything Bane did

Originally posted by juggerman
No he is stronger. He threw a grown man across a room and THRU a plate glass window that was stated to only "crack" if hit by a speeding car. That is much greater than anything Bane did Nah busting up concrete with his bare hands is a better feat

Originally posted by SasuOna
Based on what? All Bane did was punch through concrete(quite a few watchmen characters can do this)
Did you see him knock a man clean across the room with just a metal standing?

Comedian would just destroy Bane The only character that did that was Comedian. Ozy, Rorschach, Night Owl, none of them did.Originally posted by juggerman
No he is stronger. He threw a grown man across a room and THRU a plate glass window that was stated to only "crack" if hit by a speeding car. That is much greater than anything Bane did That was an exaggeration...

Originally posted by Black bolt z
That was an exaggeration... To say the least

No. Throwing a man across a room with enough force to even crack a wall is superior. The strength to must posses to do such a thing is crazy. But thru a reinforced window? Enough to not only break it but to still have enough force/energy left over to carry the large man completely thru like he just went thru a thin wall of water? Bane has nothing on that one

EDIT: Not to mention he kicked Walter across the room and his body slammed against the wall. Not just hit a wall but SLAMMED against it. With a kick!



According to whom? And even if it was it was still made clear that the window was reinforced and it was unlikely that a person could break it under his own power. Yet Ozy not only broke it easily, he did it by tossing a grown large man across the room thru it. Had he just slammed Comedian into it then you may have a point but to toss him like that is vastly superior to anything Bane did

Originally posted by juggerman
No. Throwing a man across a room with enough force to even crack a wall is superior. The strength to must posses to do such a thing is crazy. But thru a reinforced window? Enough to not only break it but to still have enough force/energy left over to carry the large man completely thru like he just went thru a thin wall of water? Bane has nothing on that one

EDIT: Not to mention he kicked Walter across the room and his body slammed against the wall. Not just hit a wall but SLAMMED against it. With a kick!



According to whom? And even if it was it was still made clear that the window was reinforced and it was unlikely that a person could break it under his own power. Yet Ozy not only broke it easily, he did it by tossing a grown large man across the room thru it. Had he just slammed Comedian into it then you may have a point but to toss him like that is vastly superior to anything Bane did Really? Throwing Comedian through a window is a better feat than shitstomping Batman?

And why are we even debating this? this is Comedian vs. Bane. Not Ozy. Here, I'll make the thread.

Sorry punching up a concrete pillar with no visual damage to his fists >>> Anything any Watchman character did strengthwise

Reinforced window! AND from across a room. Yes it is



I dunno people just started comparing Bane and Ozy. There is a Ozy vs Bane thread tho



Well the "no damage" is really more of a durability feat.

The wank is strong with the Watchmen. Go pay the movie vs forum a visit.

Originally posted by juggerman
Reinforced window! AND from across a room. Yes it is



I dunno people just started comparing Bane and Ozy. There is a Ozy vs Bane thread tho



Well the "no damage" is really more of a durability feat. The no damage is a durability feat and the actually punching is a strength feat. Watchmen characters don't possess that type of punching power

Agreed



That is debatable. But the whole thing was about strength right? Like Mike Tyson in his prime had more punching power then let's say Brock Lesnar in his prime. Brock would still be the stronger of the two.

Originally posted by juggerman
Agreed



That is debatable. But the whole thing was about strength right? Like Mike Tyson in his prime had more punching power then let's say Brock Lesnar in his prime. Brock would still be the stronger of the two. It really isn't debatable. It takes a superhuman level of strength to punch a chunk out of a concrete pillar .

Comedian took worse damage wearing a bathrobe than either Bane or Batman did, and he kept fighting. I still don't see Bane countering a flame thrower or shotgun. The nuke isn't a viable option. It was a plot device used as keverage. Never actually used as a weapon in combat against an opponent. Bane doesn't possess the knowledge to arm the bomb and didn't regularly travel with it. Even if he did he needs to get to it, arm it, and try to detonate it all while being burned alive or shot multiple times.

Bane stomps

Originally posted by SasuOna
Based on what? All Bane did was punch through concrete(quite a few watchmen characters can do this)
Did you see him knock a man clean across the room with just a metal standing?

Comedian would just destroy Bane

Bane was obviously super human. Strength, and durability.

Anyways:

Bane wins. Batmans best couldn't even slow him down.. Can't see any of the Watchmen streets just shrugging off his best.

Comedian was the strongest of all the Watchmen, and I believe Ozy only took him down because he was old.

Ozy took Comedian down because Comedian wanted him to.

Originally posted by Mindset
Ozy took Comedian down because Comedian wanted him to.

The comic implied he had a good feint and right hook, and that's all he had, but that it was enough to win.

But it's kind of hard to believe no matter how inexperienced Ozy was, or how he trained later, that he'd lose to a simple feint.. He was way too good to have ever been "that" green.

You're agreeing with me, right?

Let's hold hands.

Moved

Based on movie feats Bane is definitely stronger of the two.

Comedian punched a wall that was dry wall and tile. Bane cracked a concrete pillar.

And when he went crazy he was throwing punches crazy fast.

And it doesn't take superhuman strength to do what Ozy did?

And honestly it would not take superhuman strength to damage a pillar like that. While it is impressive as hell it was not a superhuman feat. It was peak human

Originally posted by cdtm
Anyways:

Bane wins. Batmans best couldn't even slow him down.. Can't see any of the Watchmen streets just shrugging off his best. That was an old and broken down Batman. The younger in his prime Batman from Dark Knight would've made Bane his *****.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No proof Ozy would stomp Bane.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
That was an old and broken down Batman. The younger in his prime Batman from Dark Knight would've made Bane his *****. No, completely and utterly wrong.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
That was an old and broken down Batman. The younger in his prime Batman from Dark Knight would've made Bane his *****.

No, but he might have taken Bane a bit more serious.

Bane would have shit on Batman from the first two films all the same.

1) Comedian beats Bane's ass

2) Batman from TDK beats Bane's ass harder than TDKR Batman did in their second round

Based on what, honestly?

What did Batman do in TDK besides beating up a scrawny clown, some mobsters, and being subdued by dogs, that makes you believe he would take on Bane, who has a nearly if not outright superhuman level of raw might, and a virtual immunity to pain?

90% of the Batman's prowess in the movies is implied ability.

Which is a fancy way of saying, he isn't really that good of a fighter.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Based on what, honestly?

What did Batman do in TDK besides beating up a scrawny clown, some mobsters, and being subdued by dogs, that makes you believe he would take on Bane, who has a nearly if not outright superhuman level of raw might, and a virtual immunity to pain?
Based on fanboy crap.

Originally posted by cdtm
The comic implied he had a good feint and right hook, and that's all he had, but that it was enough to win.

But it's kind of hard to believe no matter how inexperienced Ozy was, or how he trained later, that he'd lose to a simple feint.. He was way too good to have ever been "that" green.

It was Ozy who claimed that the Comedian just had a good feint and a right hook, it was a way of demeaning him after getting his _ss handed to him by him when he was younger.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Based on what, honestly?

What did Batman do in TDK besides beating up a scrawny clown, some mobsters, and being subdued by dogs, that makes you believe he would take on Bane, who has a nearly if not outright superhuman level of raw might, and a virtual immunity to pain?

Because an older and worn-down Batman beat his ass with nothing more than sheer will driving him. An unbroken Batman as seen in TDK beats him harder and faster.

What did Bane do besides go 1-1 with a lesser Batman?

Originally posted by Estacado
Based on fanboy crap.

If any character is being fanboyed around here lately, it's Bane.

Originally posted by Robtard
If any character is being fanboyed around here lately, it's Bane.

Agreed. Tired of the Bane wank and TDKR wank.

Originally posted by Robtard
Because an older and worn-down Batman beat his ass with nothing more than sheer will driving him. An unbroken Batman as seen in TDK beats him harder and faster.

What did Bane do besides go 1-1 with a lesser Batman?

While you could try to claim that Batman was weakened, based on the movie he... Wasn't. As dadudemon pointed out, he got into shape at a superhuman rate, and at no point in the Bane fight did his age or apparent worn body factor in any obvious way.

Let's be real. Bane was taking Batman's best punches while holding the lapels of his jacket like he was a ****ing dapper British gentleman holding a casual conversation, and the second fight went largely the same way until his mask was damaged.

If you're saying TDK Batman with prior knowledge of the mask could exploit the weakness, fine, but please don't pretend that TDK Batman was some unstoppable torrent of destruction who would overwhelm Bane, who has the distinction of being the most physically dominant character in the series.

Comedian beats him up though, lol.

Originally posted by NemeBro
While you could try to claim that Batman was weakened, based on the movie he... Wasn't. As dadudemon pointed out, he got into shape at a superhuman rate, and at no point in the Bane fight did his age or apparent worn body factor in any obvious way.

Let's be real. Bane was taking Batman's best punches while holding the lapels of his jacket like he was a ****ing dapper British gentleman holding a casual conversation, and the second fight went largely the same way until his mask was damaged.

If you're saying TDK Batman with prior knowledge of the mask could exploit the weakness, fine, but please don't pretend that TDK Batman was some unstoppable torrent of destruction who would overwhelm Bane, who has the distinction of being the most physically dominant character in the series.

Comedian beats him up though, lol.

When did I pretend TDK Batman was an "unstoppable torrent of destruction"? Funny you say that, as that's a feeling many have towards Bane now.

IMO, he's not; he's beating Bane faster than his older self with the wornout joints though.