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First and foremost, Dr. Manhattan is not in this fight. That would make it spite.



OK, so the LXG and the Watchmen square off in Times Square, to the death.

Team LXG:

Alan Quartermain (armed with a repeating rifle and two revolvers)
Tom Sawyer (same as Quartermain)
Dorian Grey
Mina Harker (in Vampire form)
Rodney Skinner
Captain Nemo (Armed with his sword)
Dr. Henry Jekyll / Edward Hyde (In Hyde form)



Team Watchmen (they have all their weapons from their movie, save Nite Owl's ship):

Ozymandias
Nite Owl
The Comedian
Rorschach
Silk Spectre II



As stated fight takes place in a vacant Times Square at midnight. Both teams have limited knowledge of each others powers. 30 seconds prep time.

What is The Comedian armed with, cos with his M79 grenade launcher, CAR-15, Franchi PA3, M60, MP5 and/or flamethrower, he could take out more than half the other team solo.

At first look I'd say Watchmen take this, but then I don't see how they can put down Dorian Gray and MIna Harker.

Quartermain drops down and starts sniping as soon as the match starts. Between him laying down fire, Mina and DOrian being immortal, and Hyde, this is an easy win for the League.

Originally posted by Robtard
What is The Comedian armed with, cos with his M79 grenade launcher, CAR-15, Franchi PA3, M60, MP5 and/or flamethrower, he could take out more than half the other team solo.


All of it.

Comedian mows down the mortals and then the Watchmen lose to Nina, since they have no way to put her down unless Nite Owl's laser cutting her in half counts as a win.

Originally posted by Robtard
Comedian mows down the mortals and then the Watchmen lose to Nina, since they have no way to put her down. What about Ozymandias? I think he can beat her.

Originally posted by Casper Whitey
What about Ozymandias? I think he can beat her.

Death her to death?

Originally posted by Robtard
Death her to death? Stake to the heart maybe?

Possibly, but with Nina, it's the League's fight to lose.

Can't see any of the league tagging Ozy, he's too fast. Mina is the only real fight for him here, and he showed to be much stronger/faster than she.

Plus we got Comedian chucking nades left and right, and NO with his laser pointer.

Dorian isn't real a pushover, iirc the guy deflected income bullets with his sword in the initial fight. With that said LXG for the win, I honestly don't see what the Watchmen is going to do to them.

Dorian was good with his little cane sword, he goes down after a decent fight, unless he faces of against Veidt or Blake.

Alan and Tom, are taken out easily by Veidt.

Hyde is a bit of a problem but easily dodgeable. Hard to take down as well, though they can wait for the potion to wear off. Blake could probably just tag him with his 1911 in the head. Or light his ass on fire.

Skinner will be hard to find, unless Dreiberg's goggles have an infa red feature. But just by the reflex and strength feats alone, unless skinner has a knife or a gun(which make him visible), hes not a threat.

Nemo showed a good amount of damage soak and he was very fast with that scimitar. I see him putting up a decent fight, again, unless he faces Blake or Veidt.

Mina being able to fly is the LXG's weapon of choice here. If they know enough about her and Veidt can get a clear opening with either Nemo's or Dorian's sword she goes down. If she flies around with her bats snatching the watchmen up she could potentially take them out. Im 50/50 on this one.

Comedian's flamethrower>>>>>Bats.

Originally posted by omgchos
Dorian was good with his little cane sword, he goes down after a decent fight, unless he faces of against Veidt or Blake.

Alan and Tom, are taken out easily by Veidt.



Dorian was amazing with his sword, and he seemed to be able to ignore pain, as well as any injuries healing in moments. There's nothing they can do to keep him down. He'll outlast everyone on that team.

And how is Veidt going to take them down. Throw his bullet riddled corpse at them? He caught one bullet from some random thug, but these guys are two trained marksman and there's no way he's dodging/catching multiple rifle rounds.

Incapacitation counts as a win.

Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Incapacitation counts as a win.

How will he be incapacitated? Any injury heals in literally seconds, and he's fast enough to deflect machinegun fire with a sword. He can't even be knocked out from the looks of it, and completely ignores pain save minor annoyance. Mina stabbed him through the chest and into a wall, and he was more annoyed by the fact that he couldn't dislodge the blade than being stabbed.

Originally posted by KingD19
How will he be incapacitated? Any injury heals in literally seconds, and he's fast enough to deflect machinegun fire with a sword. He can't even be knocked out from the looks of it, and completely ignores pain save minor annoyance. Mina stabbed him through the chest and into a wall, and he was more annoyed by the fact that he couldn't dislodge the blade than being stabbed. I dunno, but I am sure there are ways.

Originally posted by Casper Whitey
I dunno, but I am sure there are ways.

Like? Nite Owl uses his laser, Dorian regrows a new whatever got cut off.

Ozymandias breaks his neck, he's good as new a few seconds later.

Comedian hits him with a grenade, a few seconds later, he's back on his feet.

There is no incapacitating him.

Originally posted by KingD19
Like? Nite Owl uses his laser, Dorian regrows a new whatever got cut off.

Ozymandias breaks his neck, he's good as new a few seconds later.

Comedian hits him with a grenade, a few seconds later, he's back on his feet.

There is no incapacitating him.

How about tackling him and pinning him down? He didn'ypt seem to have higher than human strength anyway...

He was strong enough to not be overpowered by Mina, who herself had super strength to some degree at least. And to incapacitate him would be taking whoever tackled him out of the fight. And that would also leave that person a pretty easy target for Quartermain or Sawyer There's also the fact that he has a sword that he is insanely skilled and fast with(fought with Mina pretty evenly), so they'd have to not get stabbed first.

Originally posted by KingD19
He was strong enough to not be overpowered by Mina, who herself had super strength to some degree at least. And to incapacitate him would be taking whoever tackled him out of the fight. And that would also leave that person a pretty easy target for Quartermain or Sawyer There's also the fact that he has a sword that he is insanely skilled and fast with(fought with Mina pretty evenly), so they'd have to not get stabbed first.

Not saying WM wins, just saying that tackle/pin would be a viable incap strat against Dorian as nothing else would prolly work.

I get what you mean. And I agree, tackling him to the ground if one of the Watchmen managed to make it past his guard would effectively take him out of the fight for as long as they could hold him.

But that's probably worse for them than it is for the League. As the League still has a super fast and skilled regen in Mina, and eventually whoever's trying to keep him down(having taken themselves out of the fight as well) will get tired from Dorian constantly struggling. He doesn't get tired though. And there's still the fact that Quartermain and Sawyer are excellent snipers and anyone whose not in constant motion is a target.

Originally posted by KingD19
Dorian was amazing with his sword, and he seemed to be able to ignore pain, as well as any injuries healing in moments. There's nothing they can do to keep him down. He'll outlast everyone on that team.

And how is Veidt going to take them down. Throw his bullet riddled corpse at them? He caught one bullet from some random thug, but these guys are two trained marksman and there's no way he's dodging/catching multiple rifle rounds.
Have you even seen the watchmen? He catches a bullet from point blank shot by Laurie. Not some nameless thug. And you apperently forgot that the scene where roy chess tried t kill him and he almost effortlessly doddged all the bullets and used a nearby rope-pole to knock chess outta the park like a baseball.

Oh yeah. Just looked it up. She holds the revolver at him for a few seconds, giving him ample time to calculate her aim, then he catches it.

And in the fight with Chess, he's obviously a horrible shot. First bullet goes through that lady's shin and is roughly a foot away from Adrian. And Veidt had people between him and Chess. The people got shot instead as he was essentially using them as human shields. The hit is impressive, but him not getting killed by a poor shot isn't as impressive as you're trying to make it sound.

Originally posted by KingD19
Oh yeah. Just looked it up. She holds the revolver at him for a few seconds, giving him ample time to calculate her aim, then he catches it.

And in the fight with Chess, he's obviously a horrible shot. First bullet goes through that lady's shin and is roughly a foot away from Adrian. And Veidt had people between him and Chess. The people got shot instead as he was essentially using them as human shields. The hit is impressive, but him not getting killed by a poor shot isn't as impressive as you're trying to make it sound.
He closes the distance very quickly.
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It takes alot more time to fire a single action repeater rifle.

Still doesn't change that he would have gotten shot if that girl and the old man weren't between him and Chess.

And Quartermain can essentially quick draw with his rifle, while Sawyer has revolvers as well as a rifle. Veidt can't stand up against two different sources of bullets.

Originally posted by KingD19
Still doesn't change that he would have gotten shot if that girl and the old man weren't between him and Chess.

And Quartermain can essentially quick draw with his rifle, while Sawyer has revolvers as well as a rifle. Veidt can't stand up against two different sources of bullets.
Not once did one of those bullets hit where he was so that first part makes no sense. And he waver shown to shoot very fast, he was just extremely proficient at sniping and albeit pretty accurate at normal shooting, but it doesn't equate to super speeding a repeater rifle. He even has to teach sawyer who sucked at life with those revolvers just "shooting enough bullets and hoping he hits the target". He does eventually get good at sniping but we never see either of them quick draw crack shots with those things. With the rifle, like i said its a slow reload, being only a single action.

When did Ozy catch a bullet?

edit: nevermind. that wasn't even impressive.

He'd be dead if she actually shot at him with a purpose.

Originally posted by marwash22
When did Ozy catch a bullet?

edit: nevermind. that wasn't even impressive.

He'd be dead if she actually shot at him with a purpose.
Moving his arm fast enough to put it between him and the bullet. And he didnt move his arm until the hammer dropped. Thats upwards of 600 fps. Even if its just his arms we have a benchmark.

Originally posted by omgchos
Moving his arm fast enough to put it between him and the bullet. And he didnt move his arm until the hammer dropped. Thats upwards of 600 fps. Even if its just his arms we have a benchmark. okay?

i argued none of those points and my comment stands... it wasn't THAT impressive and she could have killed him if she didn't give him a crap load of time to prepare for the shot.

If you're trying to suggest that Ozy can move the rest of his body at 600fps, you're outta your goddamn mind 'cause he never displayed such speed in the movie. You're also crazy if you think he can just step through rifle fire.

Him catching that bullet revolved around the 10 or so seconds she took to try and shoot him.

During that time he had ample opportunity to calculate the bullet trajectory based on her aim. If she'd just raised and shot, he wouldn't have caught it as Mar said.

Originally posted by marwash22
okay?

i argued none of those points and my comment stands... it wasn't THAT impressive and she could have killed him if she didn't give him a crap load of time to prepare for the shot.

If you're trying to suggest that Ozy can move the rest of his body at 600fps, you're outta your goddamn mind 'cause he never displayed such speed in the movie. You're also crazy if you think he can just step through rifle fire.
Oh ok so he is now normally too slow to catch a bullet but if i give him a few seconds to think about it(which btw it was only a couple "after she says "you are such an *******" it switches to slo mo) he is then able to move his arms at 600fps? If he can do it he can do it theres no mitigating factors here.

No i never said he could say run faster than a speeding bullet, but im talking reaction speed here. He dodged Kovacs without even looking at him. He closed the gap between him and chess, and between him and Blake in absurdley short amounts of time. Blake being alot faster and better than chess at everything. He even caught a knife thrown by Blake, by the handle no less. Hes gonna easily take out take outh the two "gunslingers" here. Sawyer admitedly 20 times easier than quatermain, but that doesnt really matter much.

Originally posted by KingD19
Him catching that bullet revolved around the 10 or so seconds she took to try and shoot him.

During that time he had ample opportunity to calculate the bullet trajectory based on her aim. If she'd just raised and shot, he wouldn't have caught it as Mar said.
Thats a baseless presumption, and no it was not 10 seconds. Your exaggeration doesnt an argument make.

ozy catching that bullet is a pretty irrelevant feat against the ppl with actual super powers. sure the watchmen easily put down the normal members of the league. but hyde will take out a least one dude if not the whole team himself. he isnt as slow as one would think. you have to remember the watchmen are already outnumbered. they have no way of stopping dorian unless somebody sits on him. which puts another guy outa the fight. plus dorian is no chum in a fight where he would let someone sit on him. he evenly matched mina in combat. i dont think they could put down mina either. add in skinner and well i dont see how they could loose. do bullets even work on hyde?

Originally posted by Casper Whitey
First and foremost, Dr. Manhattan is not in this fight. That would make it spite.



OK, so the LXG and the Watchmen square off in Times Square, to the death.

Team LXG:

Alan Quartermain (armed with a repeating rifle and two revolvers)
Tom Sawyer (same as Quartermain)
Dorian Grey
Mina Harker (in Vampire form)
Rodney Skinner
Captain Nemo (Armed with his sword)
Dr. Henry Jekyll / Edward Hyde (In Hyde form)



Team Watchmen (they have all their weapons from their movie, save Nite Owl's ship):

Ozymandias
Nite Owl
The Comedian
Rorschach
Silk Spectre II



As stated fight takes place in a vacant Times Square at midnight. Both teams have limited knowledge of each others powers. 30 seconds prep time.

I assume Night Owl has his FULL arsenal of gadgets and the Comedian has his pistol and shotgun and or flamethrower? Otherwise it's not entirely fair as they have Edward Hyde and a fricken Vampire.

Ozymandias' superhuman reaction time and beyond-perfect muscle coordination and calisthenic balance can only aid him so much against a two monsters like Harker and Hyde.


Though Ozymandias did display metahuman strength on par with the two. If Ozymandias is truly their equal in strength than he must be their superior in martial prowess.

Strength on par with Mina, not Hyde.

And Hyde's a giant man-gorilla. He doesn't do martial arts. Just beats the bones out of whoever is in front of him.

Originally posted by KingD19
Strength on par with Mina, not Hyde.

And Hyde's a giant man-gorilla. He doesn't do martial arts. Just beats the bones out of whoever is in front of him.

Does Ozymandias get his pet cat Bubastis then?

Lol, no. He only gets what the opening posts says he gets, so no.

Can't see how that would help.