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Andrew tossed a baseball at Cid's face and now Cid is pissed
TK fight to the death in the farm field from Looper
Who takes it

Werent the kids in chronicle durable as hell?

As long as they were expecting danger, they were practically invulnerable even to each other. And they were shrugging off having city buses thrown at their face and getting slammed through buildings.

Cid might put up a fight, but Andrew in beast mode takes this.

Cid has no feats that suggest he would even last a minute against Andrew.

Can Andrew survive implosion?

Cid would have to get through Andrew's tk shield, which won't happen.

Cid never showed any kind of shields from what I remember; he gets oneshot at the start of the fight.

yup, tk shields are the difference here.

Andrew wins.

Originally posted by Mindset
Cid has no feats that suggest he would even last a minute against Andrew.

IDK

He lifted all the furniture in his living room (and Garret Dillahunt, right before TK imploding him from the the inside out), right before releasing a shock wave that destroyed virtually the entire bottom half of his house

And then TK lifting every individual leaf and person in a roughly 50 yard radius of a field before after a MASSIVE TK blast that covered at least 100 yards and flipped Joe's truck. He was prepping to imploding Old Joe when his mom calmed him down.

Andrew might have control over larger mass, but Cid can control smaller individual mass, down to being able to implode people. Andrew can create a forcefield to protect kinetic impacts from outside force, but IDK if can counter TK implosion from the inside out Tetsuo-Shima style.

Even if we assume Cid could harm Andrew, it takes a couple seconds for him to actually kill someone. That is more than enough time for Andrew to break Cid's neck, crush him, hit him with a tk bullet, yank his eyes out like he did that kid's teeth, etc.

There's also the fact that he can fly.

There is really no way Cid has a chance to win. Andrew could kill him in less than a second, easily.

Originally posted by Mindset
Even if we assume Cid could harm Andrew, it takes a couple seconds for him to actually kill someone.

The thing is Cid's TK gives him control over a lot more mass than Andrew's does. Cid's TK literally gives him control over every individual object in a roughly 50 yd radius of him. His minute control is, as stated, to the point that he was lifting every piece of furniture in his house while imploding Dillahunt inside out in the same manner that Tetsuo Shima killed the doctors in that hallway, and that's before releasing a shockwave that destroyed the bottom portion of his house.

If that blastwave was not at least equal to the one that Andrew performed on the cop cars, then the one in the field definitely is.
As far as lifting vehicles, he flipped his mom's truck over, so he definitely can.

But as far as Andrew yanking his teeth out, consider Cid's feats in the field. He gained control over every individual blade of grass and his mom and Old Joe. That's way better control than yanking someone's tooth out. This is where I think Cid has the edge. I think he could gain greater control of Andrew than Andrew can of him, and once that happens, implode time.

This is all assuming Cid could get past Andrew's shield, which I've yet to see proof for, but let's assume he can.

OK, nothing you just wrote changes the fact that it takes Cid a couple seconds to kill someone and while they are in midair held by his tk they can still move their limbs.

Andrew 10/10.

Cid just showed an area-of-effect, nothing suggest he had precise control of all the wheat stems, leaves and whatnots.

Andrew has every advantage here; at best Cid can hope for is that he's able to effectively counter out Andrew's powers , force-to-equal-force, and Andrew just beats him up some with his fist.

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One tk bullet and Cid is a goner.

Flipping a truck does not = Throwing a city bus through a building.

Cid's outclassed, and to assume he had individual control over everything instead of seeing it as him just having a tantrum and his power encompassing the whole area is wrong imo.

Originally posted by KingD19
Flipping a truck does not = Throwing a city bus through a building.

Cid's outclassed, and to assume he had individual control over everything instead of seeing it as him just having a tantrum and his power encompassing the whole area is wrong imo. The fact that the people who he's holding up are able to move their arms shows he isn't controlling everything.

Originally posted by Mindset
The fact that the people who he's holding up are able to move their arms shows he isn't controlling everything.

I didn't see you'd posted that part, but yeah, that's true. Moving inanimate objects doesn't equal full control.

And if he wanted, Andrew could implode Cid as well. Just replicate what he did on that car and with the lego tower. He's got more than enough fine control mixed with raw power by the end of the movie to do everything Cid did and more.