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OK so several alien races are out to seize and occupy Earth as their new homeworld. They are as follows:

1: The Chitauri from "The Avengers"

2. The aliens from "Battle: LA"

3. The Yautja from the Predator movies

4. The aliens from "Independence Day" (no shields, gotta keep it fair)

5. The Aliens from "War of the Worlds"



Defending the Earth is the Old Republic from Star Wars. They have: Clone troopers, all fighter ships and cruisers. They also have the Jedi order.


So, which alien race succeeds in taking Earth? Or does the oLD Republic succeed in defending Earth?

Thats a tough battle..how many jedi's and which one's?

All Jedi from Episodes 1-3. Also, if you can think of any other alien invaders, feel free to mention them.

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
All Jedi from Episodes 1-3. Also, if you can think of any other alien invaders, feel free to mention them.

Can the Jedi's defend against the ID4 Telepathy mind rape?

Good question. Discuss.

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
Good question. Discuss. \

No clue man, I base my judgement of screen feats which there are none to support a yes or no. So you want to rule that out completely? No Telepathy from ID4 Aliens?

ID4 aliens are probably the most powerful listed.

Originally posted by Lestov16
ID4 aliens are probably the most powerful listed.

Indeed. We have to zero in our out the telepathy working on the Jedi's.

Even if they can't, the ID4 aliens can target only one Jedi at a time. Leaves them wide open for attack.

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
Even if they can't, the ID4 aliens can target only one Jedi at a time. Leaves them wide open for attack.

The ID4 aliens greatly outnumber the Jedi's though so they would be outnumbered and mind raped.

Originally posted by Supra
The ID4 aliens greatly outnumber the Jedi's though so they would be outnumbered and mind raped. Yeah but the Jedi have Clone troopers and gunships. Not to mention orbital cruisers.

Originally posted by Supra
Indeed. We have to zero in our out the telepathy working on the Jedi's.

Even if it didn't, there isn't anything the Jedi can do against their mile long ships. And if the smaller ships spamfire the Jedi in a similar manner to the way the Chitauri spamfired Hulk, no amount of Force powers will save them (unless we're using EU/cartoon feats as well, in which case it's a different story entirely).

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
Yeah but the Jedi have Clone troopers and gunships. Not to mention orbital cruisers.

So does ID4 remember the ground troop invasion army. All of them had telepathic powers as well as that is how they all communicated. It was shown that the alien can take complete control over a mind.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Even if it didn't, there isn't anything the Jedi can do against their mile long ships. And if the smaller ships spamfire the Jedi in a similar manner to the way the Chitauri spamfired Hulk, no amount of Force powers will save them (unless we're using EU/cartoon feats as well, in which case it's a different story entirely). You're kidding, right? The Old Republic has many warships that can spam the shit outta the ID4 mile long ships.

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
You're kidding, right? The Old Republic has many warships that can spam the shit outta the ID4 mile long ships.

Star Destroyer shields go down so quick. Also each of the small vessels have the same shields.

According to the OP, shields are off. In which case.......the Jedi may end up defending Earth.

Originally posted by Lestov16
According to the OP, shields are off. In which case.......the Jedi may end up defending Earth.

So Star Wars get's shields and ID4 does not? Thats not fair

WotW tripods had shields too, but they go down due to HIV.

As is, Old Republic forces win.

Old Republic succeeds.

Originally posted by Robtard
WotW tripods had shields too, but they go down due to HIV.

As is, Old Republic forces win.

Now you have overstepped the old republics forces.

How many Yautja?

Originally posted by Supra
Now you have overstepped the old republics forces.

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/3251/efel.png

No you just make shit up and lie about everything

Originally posted by Supra
No you just make shit up and lie about everything

Anytime you want to post why the Old Republic forces don't win in here and prove me wrong would be nice.

But we both know you can't, so you'll likely just do your standard little girly attacks.

Originally posted by Robtard
Anytime you want to post why the Old Republic forces don't win in here and prove me wrong would be nice.

But we both know you can't, so you'll likely just do your standard little girly attacks.

Did you even care to see who they where up against, the ID4 Alien's mind rape the clone drones.

Originally posted by Supra
Did you even care to see who they where up against, the ID4 Alien's mind rape the clone drones.



Did you even pay attention in ID4, brah?

Those aliens seemingly have to be in physical contact with who they're "mind raping" to control them

Did you not notice that 20th century human tech defeated them? ie they didn't just "mind rape" humanity from afarwhen their shields went down as you imagine.

Did you even read what the SW side has? "Defending the Earth is the Old Republic from Star Wars. They have: Clone troopers, all fighter ships and cruisers. They also have the Jedi order."

That's millions of clones and thousands of ships and shitloads of cruisers, plus all the Jedi

Originally posted by Robtard
Did you even pay attention in ID4, brah?

Those aliens seemingly have to be in contact with who they're "mind raping" to control them

Did you not notice that 20th century human tech defeated them? ie they didn't just "mind rape" humanity when their shields went down.

Then how did they mind rape the president when they where not in contact with him?

And I have not even begun to talk to you about the other aliens rob.

Originally posted by Supra
Then how did they mind rape the president when they where not in contact with him?

erred "close proximity", ie they're not Professor Xavier.

Originally posted by Supra
And I have not even begun to talk to you about the other aliens rob.

Please do, cos ID4 without shields isn't cutting it.

Originally posted by Robtard
erred "close proximity", ie they're not Professor Xavier.

So when the storm troopers and ID4 aliens are going at it, thats not close proximity?

Originally posted by Supra
So when the storm troopers and ID4 aliens are going at it, thats not close proximity?

Maybe I'm forgetting ID4 as it's been many years, but when did the ID4 aliens do a ground force?

Those aliens also can't mind-attack more than one person at a time and they have to be outside of thier "protective" suit, apparently.

Originally posted by Robtard
Maybe I'm forgetting ID4 as it's been many years, but when did the ID4 aliens do a ground force?

Those aliens also can't mind-attack more than one person at a time.

Rob there where millions of them...watch the ending of ID4. It was ground invasion preparing to deploy.

Originally posted by Supra
Rob there where millions of them...watch the ending of ID4.

I know their are millions (or more), as it was an entire species.

But again, when did they show a ground force? Their entire tactic seems to hinge on wiping out cities with their larger ships and use the smaller fighters as clean up.

There's also the fact they out wiped out by 20th century jetfigthers once they lost the shields, which is gone already here. A single F-18 was able to take out one of the larger ships.

Originally posted by Robtard
WotW tripods had shields too, but they go down due to HIV.

As is, Old Republic forces win. Lol. All the Jedi were stomped. Order 66 eradicated them save for two.

Originally posted by Robtard
I know their are millions (or more), as it was an entire species.

But again, when did they show a ground force? Their entire tactic seems to hinge on wiping out cities with their larger ships and use the smaller fighters as clean up.

They showed it rob, watch the end of the movie, you already said its been a while since you seen it..go watch it they say it ground force invasion army and its shows all them on foot waiting to deploy. There was millions of them.

The Jedi do not need to get involved in any of these conflicts.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Lol. All the Jedi were stomped. Order 66 eradicated them save for two.

/derp

Originally posted by Robtard
/derp Concession accepted.

Originally posted by Supra
They showed it rob, watch the end of the movie, you already said its been a while since you seen it..go watch it they say it ground force invasion army and its shows all them on foot waiting to deploy. There was millions of them.

Do a screen cap of this "ground force":

http://www.solarmovie.so/watch-independence-day-1996.html

Which then would have been wiped out by the earth's militaries.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Concession accepted.

Yes, yes, you hate Star Wars and are desperately waiting to bandwagonboi over after the new films are released. Got it

Originally posted by Robtard
Yes, yes, You hate Star Wars and are desperately waiting to bandwagonboi over after the new films are released. Got it No, I just feel they lose here. I like Star Wars but was never a huge fan. Abrams might change that.

Originally posted by Robtard
Do a screen cap of this "ground force":

http://www.solarmovie.so/watch-independence-day-1996.html

Which then would have been wiped out by the earth's militaries.

Bro I don't know how to work that shit, I'm on my stupid phone. I'm not lying to you man.

Right, you're just lying about their ability to mind-rape people..as the only time that was done in the movie involved them being within a few feet of their victims.

Rob can you operate that mess on your computer?

Originally posted by Supra
Rob can you operate that mess on your computer?

I can later at home. Is it on their mother-ship?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Right, you're just lying about their ability to mind-rape people..as the only time that was done in the movie involved them being within a few feet of their victims. You are one to talk about lying.

Originally posted by Robtard
I can later at home. Is it on their mother-ship?

Yea its when will smith and goldbloom are on the mother ship and they realize what is about to happen if they don't win.

Originally posted by Supra
Yea its when will smith and goldbloom are on the mother ship and they realize what is about to happen if they don't win.

You're right, I somewhat recall now. An ocean of aliens in their suits.

But not sure that's a ground invasion; just more dudes to fly their little crappy figther ships.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're right, I somewhat recall now. An ocean of aliens in their suits.

But not sure that's a ground invasion; just more dudes to fly their little crappy figther ships.

Bro it was a ground force. They were all on foot waiting to invade.

Yautja could be the most dangerous potentionally considering each carries a small nuke on their wrist.Really wonder what could an army of them do.
Also imagine what weaponry could their ships carry.
Too bad none of this was shown however....

Originally posted by Robtard
You're right, I somewhat recall now. An ocean of aliens in their suits.

But not sure that's a ground invasion; just more dudes to fly their little crappy figther ships.

It was a ground invasion that was getting ready, pretty sure they say something along those lines too

I'm putting my money of the aliens from War of the worlds. The military forces were pathetically hopeless against them... until they started sneezing of course.

Then the aliens from Battle LA gets 2nd place.

I love the predators, but if Arnie is enough to take out 1 then I don't see the Star Wars world having too much trouble with them.

Honestly though, after all is said and done it will be the zombies who'll inherit the earth.

This is unfair. The Old Republic forces number in the millions (probably tens or even hundreds of millions since they were fighting in a galactic war) and the Jedi of the PT era were roughly 10 000. That's not even mentioning the thousands of ships the Republic has. They shouldn't have much of a problem knocking the aliens out of the sky and the Jedi and the millions of clone troopers can easily mop up anything on the surface. And the WotW aliens are useless here since they'll die of aids in a couple of days anyway.

Exactly, the clone forces were capable of fighting multiple fronts on a galaxy-wide war for 10 years or so. Adding the Jedi is overkill.

Originally posted by Robtard
Exactly, the clone forces were capable of fighting multiple fronts on a galaxy-wide war for 10 years or so. Adding the Jedi is overkill.

You were so close to the truth but it ran from you like a mouse from a cat

Originally posted by Supra
You were so close to the truth but it ran from you like a mouse from a cat

I'm taking you at your word that there were "millions" of aliens in suits for a ground attack; still doesn't change the outcome for reasons stated.

It just means the war for Earth will last longer and be bloodier for the Old Rep.

Rob how can they beat all those aliens. Not just the id4 aliens, look at all the other classes they are up against. We all know Jedi's go down hard when out numbered.

The predators with their advanced tech, and then look at the Battle of Los Angeles aliens, then the aliens from War of Worlds also have inpentranbile shields as well which Op did not take down

There is to much madness there. In a space battle Star Wars goes down hard.

Originally posted by Supra
Rob how can they beat all those aliens. Not just the id4 aliens, look at all the other classes they are up against.

We all know Jedi's go down hard when out numbered.

The predators with their advanced tech, and then look at the Battle of Los Angeles aliens, then the aliens from War of Worlds also have inpentranbile shields as well which Op did not take down

There is to much madness there. In a space battle Star Wars goes down hard.

Because as stated before:

The clone forces were large enough to fight on multiple fronts across a galaxy-wide war for a decade or so.

Jedi won't be outnumbered here, they'll have a super-massive clone army along with all their ships, battle cruisers, artillery etc. etc. etc.

Predators get taken out by humans and a good Jedi > a predator considering their best defense is negated by Force sensitivity/powers.

ID4 aliens don't get their most powerful tech here, the shields.

Battle LA aliens got worked over by marines.

WotW only last a few days before a common cold virus wipes them out.

This isn't a space battle, it's a battle for Earth and the Clone forces would have thousands upon thousands of ships and cruisers around Earth. It would be all their forces that were spread out across the SW galaxy all converged on a single planet.

Never underdetermine the power of the dark side.

Star Wars easily defend the Earth. The old repulic had around 1000-5000 ships without counting support ships in it's armada and that wasn't even the full size of the Old Republics fleet. The Aliens won't even get through.

Originally posted by Impediment
How many Yautja? All of them, and all of their resources.

It has been established that the Old Republic wins due to the Jedi being overkill.

Let's start anew: Same conditions, except no Jedi involved. I know, I know, 4 pages in and now I decide this?


Consider this post the start of a new thread.

Are the Republic Forces still around? Because they won't need the Jedi to defeat the alien forces.

Yes, all Republic forces are involved.

With no Jedi around, I am siding with the Yautja.

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
Yes, all Republic forces are involved.

With no Jedi around, I am siding with the Yautja.

We've only seen 20ish or so Yautja in the films. So how many are on their planet that are Predator/Warrior types? I can't recall this being mentioned in any of the films.

Originally posted by Robtard
We've only seen 20ish or so Yautja in the films. So how many are on their planet that are Predator/Warrior types? I can't recall this being mentioned in any of the films. That's the problem, impossible to determine how many Yautja there are on their homeworld, and how many of those are Hunters.

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
That's the problem, impossible to determine how many Yautja there are on their homeworld, and how many of those are Hunters.

So why would you side with them when there could only be a 142?

Originally posted by Robtard
So why would you side with them when there could only be a 142? Well, IF the Yautja have a sizable army, they stand a chance. One Yautja>>>>Dozens of Clones.

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
Well, IF the Yautja have a sizable army, they stand a chance. One Yautja>>>>Dozens of Clones.

Any cities the Yautja are shacked up in and killing Clones would quickly be targeted and artilleried to rubble. The Clones are highly trained in the tactics of war(noted in Ep2) and wouldn't just keep sending in units ad infinitum to get sliced by cloaked opponents.

Plus I highly doubt the Alien attackers will even make it go the ground. The republic fleet will blow everything out of the sky, and when the Aliens from Independance Day have wiped out, that's it. The republic fleet can then begin bombard whatever that somehow managed to land.

There is to many High powered aliens here, Star wars loses the defense.

Originally posted by Robtard
Any cities the Yautja are shacked up in and killing Clones would quickly be targeted and artilleried to rubble. The Clones are highly trained in the tactics of war(noted in Ep2) and wouldn't just keep sending in units ad infinitum to get sliced by cloaked opponents. Not if the Yautja go on the offense and fight in a non PIS fashion. One Yautja in the middle of a cluster of Clones, he rapes them all. And when the Yautja is shot down, he activates his wrist nuke and BOOM, hundreds of dead Clones, not to mention the dozens he slaughtered before going down.

If the Yautja can build a bomb that powerful in a wrist sized device, their tech>>>>Star Wars tech.

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
Not if the Yautja go on the offense and fight in a non PIS fashion. One Yautja in the middle of a cluster of Clones, he rapes them all. And when the Yautja is shot down, he activates his wrist nuke and BOOM, hundreds of dead Clones, not to mention the dozens he slaughtered before going down.

If the Yautja can build a bomb that powerful in a wrist sized device, their tech>>>>Star Wars tech.

In CQC a single Yautja would get shot to shit after he kills a few clones at most. They're clones, not retards. They'd see the the light warping figure and relalize a cloacked enemy is there killing a Clone, then the info would spread throughout the army.

That assumes said Yautja is still alive enough to active his wrist bomb. If they're shot down dead, no bomb.

Originally posted by Robtard
In CQC a single Yautja would get shot to shit after he kills a few clones at most. They're clones, not retards. They'd see the the light warping figure and relalize a cloacked enemy is there killing a Clone, then the info would spread throughout the army.

That assumes said Yautja is still alive enough to active his wrist bomb. If they're shot down dead, no bomb. So you're saying that the Clone are better than Dutch's crew? Because they couldn't hit a lone Yautja while all firing full auto. Plus they had a death machine and a war machine.

A few laser bolts aren't taking down a Yautja, one tanked half a dozen shotgun blasts and a some auto fire.

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
So you're saying that the Clone are better than Dutch's crew? Because they couldn't hit a lone Yautja while all firing full auto. Plus they had a death machine and a war machine.

A few laser bolts aren't taking down a Yautja, one tanked half a dozen shotgun blasts and a some auto fire.

Dutch's crew was what, 6-7 men? Clones would be FAR numerous.

That's just it, wouldn't be "a few".

Aliens wreck start wars via mind rape.

Originally posted by Robtard
Dutch's crew was what, 6-7 men? Clones would be FAR numerous.

That's just it, wouldn't be "a few".

And much more used to dealing with technology and recognize it. Cloaking generators isn't uncommon in the star wars universe.

Originally posted by Supra
There is to many High powered aliens here, Star wars loses the defense.

What does the aliens have fleetwise that makes it possible for them to take on 5000+ capital ships (not counting support vessels and fighters)

Originally posted by Utrigita
What does the aliens have fleetwise that makes it possible for them to take on 5000+ capital ships (not counting support vessels and fighters)

Nothing, Supra's MO is to side with the obvious loser and troll everyone that disagrees with him.

Originally posted by Utrigita
What does the aliens have fleetwise that makes it possible for them to take on 5000+ capital ships (not counting support vessels and fighters)

Add up all the fleets of the aliens in OP. There is your answer.

So Star Wars gets there shields and no one else does..

What kinda crap is that.

Originally posted by Supra
Add up all the fleets of the aliens in OP. There is your answer.

So Star Wars gets there shields and no one else does..

What kinda crap is that. All I said was that the ID4 fleet has no shields.

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
All I said was that the ID4 fleet has no shields.

Those shields are the only ones worth a crap. You pitted all of Star Wars who has massive fleets and ships with shields and a smaller ID4 fleet gets none. How is that even fair.

Originally posted by Robtard
Dutch's crew was what, 6-7 men? Clones would be FAR numerous.

That's just it, wouldn't be "a few". So the Clones know about the Pred's cloaking device now? I never gave them prep. And the Clones aren't just gonna spam blaster fire, they are gonna have teammates in their line of fire, and last time I checked, the Clones, while not afraid to die, aren't into killing their own.

Originally posted by Supra
Add up all the fleets of the aliens in OP. There is your answer.

So Star Wars gets there shields and no one else does..

What kinda crap is that.

Help me out a bit here, how do you get those alien "fleets" to anywhere near 5000+ capital ships?

Really who of them got anything that can be described as a capital ship besides the independence day aliens? And then again they only have fighters... The predators have some larger ships, but their usability against a capital ship of the Old Republics capacity is unknown at best.. and the same really goes for the rest.

Originally posted by Supra
Those shields are the only ones worth a crap. You pitted all of Star Wars who has massive fleets and ships with shields and a smaller ID4 fleet gets none. How is that even fair. OK, so let's say the ID4 fleet has shields, BUT their enemies know how to defeat the shields, better? But that means prep, and then we have to give the other teams prep too.

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
OK, so let's say the ID4 fleet has shields, BUT their enemies know how to defeat the shields, better? But that means prep, and then we have to give the other teams prep too.

I will argue that the Old Republic and it's fleet can blast their way through the shield. But that is just my take on 5000+ ships firing off lasers and ion cannons designed to destroy shields.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Help me out a bit here, how do you get those alien "fleets" to anywhere near 5000+ capital ships?

Really who of them got anything that can be described as a capital ship besides the independence day aliens? And then again they only have fighters... The predators have some larger ships, but their usability against a capital ship of the Old Republics capacity is unknown at best.. and the same really goes for the rest.

I don't think he knows what a capital ship is, he seem to be counting their fighter planes.

Originally posted by Utrigita
I will argue that the Old Republic and it's fleet can blast their way through the shield. But that is just my take on 5000+ ships firing off lasers and ion cannons designed to destroy shields. I won't argue against that. Besides, IF the mothership is not shielded, they can just destroy it.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I don't think he knows what a capital ship is, he seem to be counting their fighter planes. Yes, I know what a capital ship is. I was watching SW before you were itching your dad's underwear.

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
I won't argue against that. Besides, IF the mothership is not shielded, they can just destroy it.

Agreed.

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
Yes, I know what a capital ship is. I was watching SW before you were itching your dad's underwear.

He was refering to Supra, not you

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
Yes, I know what a capital ship is. I was watching SW before you were itching your dad's underwear.


Try reading the post I quoted, it was directed at Supra and not you.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Try reading the post I quoted, it was directed at Supra and not you. Oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiii....................