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1. Better long range shot
2. Better at survival
3. Better prep
4. Hand to hand
5. Overall best killer

I haven't seen Aaron Cross, but I know it's that Tyler Perry action flick.

But unless he has some simply mindblowing feats, nothing he has touches Bob Lee.

1. Swagger made the shot that killed the Archbishop on a can of soup in worse weather conditions. He also made a long range shot on a moving helicopter, and took out several long range moving targets in those jeeps.

2. Swagger is a Gunnery Sargeant and a highly trained Scout Sniper. That's some of the hardest training period in any branch of the military, but is grueling when it comes to survival in which you get no help aside from a few supplies. Other than that, the only time you get help is if you're close to dying. On top of that, he got shot twice, fell out of a building like 2 stories, then escaped the FBI and the cops by driving into a river, then with two bullet holes in him, he hitched a ride on a boat, hanging off the side in cold and dirty water. Then he drove for a few hours, got some supplies to keep himself going, then made it from Boston to another state while barely hanging on.

3. With some supplies from Home Depot, he made a ton of explosives and took out a majority of 24 men in the course of a few minutes. He was also good enough to hide out on that mountain top and no one knew he was there.

4. Again, he's a Gunny and a Scout Sniper. His h2h is amazing, and he showed it when he took down 2 cops in about 4 seconds. He also took down Pena's character in even less time.

5. Over the course of the movie, Swagger must have killed close to 50 people. And he never killed less than 3 at any given time.

Aaron Cross is the main guy in the Bourne Legacy, CIA black project group associated with tread stone, blackbriar, and all those other names. He has got some great feats which are similar to Swaggers.

Ooooh. Aaron Cross. I was thinking of Alex Cross. My mistake.

Might need to re-evaluate. I still think Swagger has the best shots and is the best shot.

Survival might be about even with a nod to Swagger imo since he did everything under his own power, even kept himself alive until he got his buddie's widow to pull the bullet out and stitch him up which is impossible to do on your own. Cross had his enhancements and gear and such. But was put into a similar situation where if he didn't cold turkey himself from the drugs, he'd die.

I'd still give Swagger prep. Cross didn't prep a whole lot aside from that one scene in the house to my recollection.

Cross is clearly better at melee and h2h though. No doubt about that.

As for the best killers...I'd say they're roughly even but in different areas. Swagger is a sniper first and foremost. Put him behind a gun at any range and it's over.

Cross is good at close range from what I saw, and will destroy people in close encounters. I believe Bobby killed more people, but he was actively seeking revenge whereas Aaron was trying to get away.

Originally posted by KingD19
Ooooh. Aaron Cross. I was thinking of Alex Cross. My mistake.

Might need to re-evaluate. I still think Swagger has the best shots and is the best shot.

Survival might be about even with a nod to Swagger imo since he did everything under his own power, even kept himself alive until he got his buddie's widow to pull the bullet out and stitch him up which is impossible to do on your own. Cross had his enhancements and gear and such. But was put into a similar situation where if he didn't cold turkey himself from the drugs, he'd die.

I'd still give Swagger prep. Cross didn't prep a whole lot aside from that one scene in the house to my recollection.

Cross is clearly better at melee and h2h though. No doubt about that.

As for the best killers...I'd say they're roughly even but in different areas. Swagger is a sniper first and foremost. Put him behind a gun at any range and it's over.

Cross is good at close range from what I saw, and will destroy people in close encounters. I believe Bobby killed more people, but he was actively seeking revenge whereas Aaron was trying to get away. Aaron survived in the wilderness by himself.

He also shot down a predator drone with a shitty rifle.

Originally posted by Supra
1. Better long range shot
Swagger. Makes 1 mile killshots, and it was implied he's done even better


Originally posted by Supra
2. Better at survival
Swagger. Survived behind enemy lines in Ethiopia, and evaded a police manhunt despite a bullet in him


Originally posted by Supra
3. Better prep
Swagger, Assassinates Senators with zero problem.

Originally posted by Supra
4. Hand to hand
Coin-flip. I guess Cross gets the edge, but it will not be easy

Originally posted by Supra
5. Overall best killer
Definitely Swagger.

Swagger stomps..

Cross was weaksauce , maybe after Bourne 5 comes out and has way better feats

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker

Cross was weaksauce



Bourne Legacy was such trash. Being a massive fan of the trilogy (IMO amongst the best action films ever made), Legacy was one of the most grueling experiences I've ever had. A waste of money IMO

Originally posted by Lestov16


Bourne Legacy was such trash. Being a massive fan of the trilogy (IMO amongst the best action films ever made), Legacy was one of the most grueling experiences I've ever had. A waste of money IMO

Totally agree. For someone who is supposed to have scored far higher on all the training tests than even Jason Bourne himself, Cross' feats were pretty poor and so was the film.

I hated how the trailer lied. "He's like Treadstone without the inconsistency". Turns out they're not talking about Cross . Not to mention the most anti-climatic defeat of a villain I've seen in any film.