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Superman (MOS ) must face some of the most powerful mystical beings at the same time , They are : Kronos, Hydra, Zeus , Hades (from wrath of titans and clash of titans ), Loki and Thor. Can he win?

Thor and Loki alone are enough of a threat.

Clark is ****ed

What puts any of these guys up to par with Superman, exactly?

Originally posted by StealthRanger
What puts any of these guys up to par with Superman, exactly?

MOS Superman... Not actual Superman.

Thor drops the hammer on him.

Yes I know. I can read sonny boy

What kind of feats does Thor have to match Supes?

Wow this looks like fun.

Is this all at once or one by one?

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Yes I know. I can read sonny boy

What kind of feats does Thor have to match Supes?

MOS Superman is drastically weakened. While still stronger then Thor he will be decimated by the Hammer.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Wow this looks like fun.

Is this all at once or one by one?

All at once.

Yea, I know that

Why would Thor's hammer be effective?

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Yea, I know that

Why would Thor's hammer be effective?

Because we know it would be.

Thors hammer did little to Loki, how on earth could it hurt Man of Steel?

"We just know"

How very convincing

MoS tanked that gravity beam that was flattening skyscrapers on the other side of the world while weakened and he tanked the singularity. There's also crashing through a mountain uninjured. He can handle Mjolnir just fine.

Not if Thor puts the hammer on him.

He's not worthy sneer

Supes wins

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Thors hammer did little to Loki, how on earth could it hurt Man of Steel?

When did Thor attack Loki with the hammer?

Originally posted by Psychotron
MoS tanked that gravity beam that was flattening skyscrapers on the other side of the world while weakened and he tanked the singularity. There's also crashing through a mountain uninjured. He can handle Mjolnir just fine.

Thor has way more durability feats than MOS supes. Thor tanked the bifrost bridge explosion, survived the trip from Asgard to Earth, took big hits from the Hulk and Kurse and survived falling in a container from the stratosphere.

Also, how was supes weakened during gravity beam scene? I don't remember kryptonite being introduced

Originally posted by Firefly218
When did Thor attack Loki with the hammer?

End of Thor 1.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Thor has way more durability feats than MOS supes. Thor tanked the bifrost bridge explosion, survived the trip from Asgard to Earth, took big hits from the Hulk and Kurse and survived falling in a container from the stratosphere.

Also, how was supes weakened during gravity beam scene? I don't remember kryptonite being introduced

He was weakened because the terraformer was recreating Krypton.

Originally posted by Firefly218
When did Thor attack Loki with the hammer?
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Originally posted by Firefly218
Thor has way more durability feats than MOS supes. Thor tanked the bifrost bridge explosion, survived the trip from Asgard to Earth, took big hits from the Hulk and Kurse and survived falling in a container from the stratosphere.

Also, how was supes weakened during gravity beam scene? I don't remember kryptonite being introduced

Gravity beam > Bifrost. Especially because he was depowered due to the Kryptonian atmosphere. Judging by the collateral damage Zod's attacks were more damaging than Hulk's and Superman tanked them just fine.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Gravity beam > Bifrost. Especially because he was depowered due to the Kryptonian atmosphere. Judging by the collateral damage Zod's attacks were more damaging than Hulk's and Superman tanked them just fine.

I admit Thor can't beat MOS supes, but he can give him a pretty good fight. Giving Thor 5 powerful teammates is overkill.

MOS Superman could beat Thor to death accidentally.

Superman is stronger than everyone here, and he is considerably faster.

Hades or any number of beings solo here.

THor puts the hammer on top of MOS Superman and they proceed to beat the crap out of him.

Seeing Superman's face when he realizes that he can't lift Mjolnir would be priceless.

What DC feats suggest they could harm Supes?

The fact that missiles and high calibur bullets seemed to have an effect on him. Not much effect, but a true Superman would never be bothered by Bullets, not even if he was shot in the eye.

Mjolnir isn't unstoppable unless Odin makes it so. It's just really powerful. That big guy in Thor 2 swatted it aside casually.

Bullets are generally wanked to hell in fiction, harming characters they shouldn't be (since our best guns wouldn't work against characters with city block level durability)

Since Superman survived falling right through a mountain unharmed and even destroyed a bit of said mountain, yeah

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
THor puts the hammer on top of MOS Superman and they proceed to beat the crap out of him. How does Thor manage this before Superman breaks his arm?

Originally posted by NemeBro
How does Thor manage this before Superman breaks his arm?

MOS is never shown with agility faster then Thor, just flying speed. A speed Thor would not be far behind (granted he has to swing his hammer). Plus whilst he is fighting the rest this isn't hard.

Thor's in the Mach triple digits now?

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Thor's in the Mach triple digits now?

Neither is MOS. So what are you saying?

Originally posted by NemeBro
How does Thor manage this before Superman breaks his arm? Based on ?

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
THor puts the hammer on top of MOS Superman and they proceed to beat the crap out of him.

I would like to see Thor knock him down long enough to try that

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Neither is MOS. So what are you saying?

Well other than flying around the earth from space, yeah, that should be Mach triple digits at the very least

Seriously, Superman dominates

And what versions of the Greek Gods, exactly?

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
MOS is never shown with agility faster then Thor, just flying speed. A speed Thor would not be far behind (granted he has to swing his hammer). Plus whilst he is fighting the rest this isn't hard. Shut up, lol.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
THor puts the hammer on top of MOS Superman and they proceed to beat the crap out of him.

Like he did against Hulk?

Ding!

Originally posted by Psychotron
Like he did against Hulk?

Very good point..all assume cause Thor placed the hammer on Loki he must be able to do the same to everyone else.

You are forgetting he has Loki on his team. With Loki tricking him with Illusions and what not it would be possible for Thor to throw the hammer at him and Boom! He's knocked over. And now Thor has that time to place the Hammer on top.

And if that don't work, Chris Hemsworth just uses his Aussie power and overcomes Superman in a Drinking Game except instead of alcohol its Red Belly Venom.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
MOS Superman is drastically weakened. While still stronger then Thor he will be decimated by the Hammer.


Theres nothing to suggest from the movies that Thors hammer would have a significant impact against, Superman. His hammer feats in the movie are modest

I'm also hesitant to believe that Lokis illusions would be effective against, Superman, given Supermans vision

Im not convinced that Superman wins here but his on screen feats do certainly dwarf ANYTHING that his opponents displayed on screen

So destroying a rather large section of the ground while in the Frost Giant's realm is your idea of modest?

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Theres nothing to suggest from the movies that Thors hammer would have a significant impact against, Superman. His hammer feats in the movie are modest

I'm also hesitant to believe that Lokis illusions would be effective against, Superman, given Supermans vision

Im not convinced that Superman wins here but his on screen feats do certainly dwarf ANYTHING that his opponents displayed on screen

I see you're point... I'm not sure anymore... dam.

Loki still has to think to use his illusions, and Superman is considerably faster

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Loki still has to think to use his illusions, and Superman is considerably faster

Hey I may be uncertain, but I doubt MOS is faster then thought.

Originally posted by Silent Master
So destroying a rather large section of the ground while in the Frost Giant's realm is your idea of modest?

yes. We're talking about a weapon that gives its possessor near omnipotent power. I'm certainly a fan of the, Marvel movies and having been a fan of the comic counter parts i'm aware of their abilities when they're at their best. I expect the movie interpretations of comic book characters to be unique from their comic versions and for the most part i'm satisfied with how most comic characters turn out. As happy as I am with how the movie version of, Thor has turned out I feel that he and the leaders of Asgard should possess a greater amount of power than they have displayed. It's possible that we haven't seen the full extent of Thors abilities but what he have seen has left much to be desired.

I think Thor is yet to have his "moment" in the movies, especially in the, Avengers. I still think that the Avengers movie should have had a greater focus on the importance of his presence than it did. I think it was probably a conscious decision to make his powers modest in order for him to appear as reliant on the rest of the Avengers as they are on him. Through out all of the movies the exposition describing Thors abilities have been greater than what we have seen him capable of.

So to answer your question again,yea I think making a crater in the ground or crashing through buildings is a modest display when compared to the amount of power, Mojinor has been suggested to hold. If Iron Man can take a shot from Thors hammer and suffer just a few scuff marks there is noting that suggests Superman couldn't endure it's wrath.

Thor did far more than just make a crater in the ground during the Frost Giant scene, he collapsed a rather large section of the area and Iron-man only survived a hammer shot because Thor didn't charge the hammer or even use his full strength.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thor did far more than just make a crater in the ground during the Frost Giant scene, he collapsed a rather large section of the area and Iron-man only survived a hammer shot because Thor didn't charge the hammer or even use his full strength.

I can dig you arguing that we may not have seen mojinor used when fully charged but that's still not an argument you can use here because we HAVENT seen it used at it's full power. Even still, if a fully charged Mojinor could significantly harm, Superman he would still need to charge it and then land a blow. The only way Thor is going to catch or land a blow on, Superman is if Superman allows him too or makes a critical mistake.

I still don't know why you think the damage that, Mojinor made to the land in the realm of the Frost giants is that great of a feat. Superman was dropping buildings by flying and being smashed through them and showed no kind of fatigue. I would think your best argument would be focusing on the fight with the destroyer in the end of the first movie and not a hole his hammer made in the ground.

Either way, in the midst of a fight I think the majority of blows that Thor would be throwing out or best capable of landing would be the type of quick attacks he used against Iron Man, and if barely dented his armor it's not going to affect Superman

I'm not arguing that Thor would be able to land an attack or that if he could it would seriously injure Superman...I'm just pointing out that a charged hammer shot isn't modest. they were in fact some of the most powerful feats we saw in any of the new MCU movies.

Still, Superman is considerably faster, since Thor is at least supersonic to possibly hypersonic from keeping up with Iron Man, whereas Supes is massively hypersonic (Mach triple digits)

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm not arguing that Thor would be able to land an attack or that if he could it would seriously injure Superman...I'm just pointing out that a charged hammer shot isn't modest. they were in fact some of the most powerful feats we saw in any of the new MCU movies.

I still say what we've seen from Mojinor is modest when compared to the power it is eluded to possessing. I say that just because I expect so much from, Thor. I expect him to struggle with controlling or realizing his full potential but I also expect to see him periodically have an awe inspiring display of power. Summoning some wind nd lightning and obliterating some rocks with his hammer are incredible feats but no where near what I expect the, God of thunder being capable of.

Originally posted by Silent Master
So destroying a rather large section of the ground while in the Frost Giant's realm is your idea of modest?

It is compared to MoS.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
You are forgetting he has Loki on his team. With Loki tricking him with Illusions and what not it would be possible for Thor to throw the hammer at him and Boom! He's knocked over. And now Thor has that time to place the Hammer on top.

And if that don't work, Chris Hemsworth just uses his Aussie power and overcomes Superman in a Drinking Game except instead of alcohol its Red Belly Venom.

Thor's hammer throws are very mediocre, honestly. Kurse swatted one aside like it was nothing. Superman (who has far greater strength and durability feats than Kurse) would probably tank a hammer shot without issue.

Originally posted by Psychotron
It is compared to MoS.

He didn't say modest in comparison to MOS, he just said modest....remember I'm not arguing that Thor can beat or even hurt MOS Superman with a Mjolnir shot, I was just questioning sed shots being described as modest when they were actually some of the most powerful attacks in any of the MCU movies.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
yes. We're talking about a weapon that gives its possessor near omnipotent power. I'm certainly a fan of the, Marvel movies and having been a fan of the comic counter parts i'm aware of their abilities when they're at their best. I expect the movie interpretations of comic book characters to be unique from their comic versions and for the most part i'm satisfied with how most comic characters turn out. As happy as I am with how the movie version of, Thor has turned out I feel that he and the leaders of Asgard should possess a greater amount of power than they have displayed. It's possible that we haven't seen the full extent of Thors abilities but what he have seen has left much to be desired.

I think Thor is yet to have his "moment" in the movies, especially in the, Avengers. I still think that the Avengers movie should have had a greater focus on the importance of his presence than it did. I think it was probably a conscious decision to make his powers modest in order for him to appear as reliant on the rest of the Avengers as they are on him. Through out all of the movies the exposition describing Thors abilities have been greater than what we have seen him capable of.

So to answer your question again,yea I think making a crater in the ground or crashing through buildings is a modest display when compared to the amount of power, Mojinor has been suggested to hold. If Iron Man can take a shot from Thors hammer and suffer just a few scuff marks there is noting that suggests Superman couldn't endure it's wrath.
I think MCU is focusing more on character development than their powers or action scenes , their interactions is what they are focusing on , I personally think Captain America is their best character so its not odd that they focus on him for development, Thor is the powerful one in the team no doubt about it but he is thousands of years old there is not much for him to discover than it is for Steve rogers or Tony stark!! and I actually like what marvel is doing, they are not only making some dumb actions movies , their stories are rich and great!!

Originally posted by DrDeadpool
I think MCU is focusing more on character development than their powers or action scenes , their interactions is what they are focusing on , I personally think Captain America is their best character so its not odd that they focus on him for development, Thor is the powerful one in the team no doubt about it but he is thousands of years old there is not much for him to discover than it is for Steve rogers or Tony stark!! and I actually like what marvel is doing, they are not only making some dumb actions movies , their stories are rich and great!!

Yeah, I'm sure many character concessions were made in the origin movies as well as the Avenger movie in order to create a cohesive team. I still don't think that Thor or Captain Americas characters were flushed out or established as best as they could have been but considering that these characters were planned as apart of an ongoing series i'm satisfied with what was done. Other than the lack of development of Caps character in his first movie the only real complaint i have with the phase 2 of Marvel was the plot of, The Avengers. I still contend that there should and could have been a better way of bringing the Avengers together. With all that said, i understand and appreciate the time and budget restraints Marvel was under in executing their, "phase 2" and even though i have some serious gripes i still appreciate all of the movies.

One thing that i do think needs to be addressed is the Odin power. There is obviously always going to be big inconsistencies in any big action movie, especially action movies with comic book heroes. I think it's important to establish more consistency in the Thor world, especially the Odin power. How far does, Odins power extend...,how relevant is it to all of the realms. I think that's important because i always viewed Thor in this series as being a lynch pin to the avengers. Other than just being a representative of Asgard,

Originally posted by DrDeadpool
I think MCU is focusing more on character development than their powers or action scenes , their interactions is what they are focusing on , I personally think Captain America is their best character so its not odd that they focus on him for development, Thor is the powerful one in the team no doubt about it but he is thousands of years old there is not much for him to discover than it is for Steve rogers or Tony stark!! and I actually like what marvel is doing, they are not only making some dumb actions movies , their stories are rich and great!!

Captain America hasn't had any character development at all though. Tony Stark did, Thor did (not very good imo but still), but Steve? None at all.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He didn't say modest in comparison to MOS, he just said modest....remember I'm not arguing that Thor can beat or even hurt MOS Superman with a Mjolnir shot, I was just questioning sed shots being described as modest when they were actually some of the most powerful attacks in any of the MCU movies.

Well yeah. He is relatively powerful next to powerhouses like Hawkeye and Black Widow.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Captain America hasn't had any character development at all though. Tony Stark did, Thor did (not very good imo but still), but Steve? None at all.

Well that was kinda my point , Steve has a long way and a personality that makes his journey cool

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Yeah, I'm sure many character concessions were made in the origin movies as well as the Avenger movie in order to create a cohesive team. I still don't think that Thor or Captain Americas characters were flushed out or established as best as they could have been but considering that these characters were planned as apart of an ongoing series i'm satisfied with what was done. Other than the lack of development of Caps character in his first movie the only real complaint i have with the phase 2 of Marvel was the plot of, The Avengers. I still contend that there should and could have been a better way of bringing the Avengers together. With all that said, i understand and appreciate the time and budget restraints Marvel was under in executing their, "phase 2" and even though i have some serious gripes i still appreciate all of the movies.

One thing that i do think needs to be addressed is the Odin power. There is obviously always going to be big inconsistencies in any big action movie, especially action movies with comic book heroes. I think it's important to establish more consistency in the Thor world, especially the Odin power. How far does, Odins power extend...,how relevant is it to all of the realms. I think that's important because i always viewed Thor in this series as being a lynch pin to the avengers. Other than just being a representative of Asgard,
I agree and I think they will do that in Thor 3 , Chris hemsworth himself has said that he wants Thor to use more of his powers and if they are going to use the enchantress story line in the third Thor , that can be a really great movie !!

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Hey I may be uncertain, but I doubt MOS is faster then thought. Why do people think the speed of thought is so fast, lol?

The quickest estimates on the speed of thought I've seen put it at like 40 milliseconds.

In that amount of time Superman could travel a kilometer.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Why do people think the speed of thought is so fast, lol?

The quickest estimates on the speed of thought I've seen put it at like 40 milliseconds.

In that amount of time Superman could travel a kilometer.

Hmm, that's interesting...,40 mililliseconds huh? You're going to make me to some research

Thor's hammer really never hurt any heroes in any of the movies.

Calm down, lol.