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Cap has shield
Blade has swords
Khan has swords as well

Can they win?

I don't see them having much trouble considering how easily, Leos katana pierced Shredders armor.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
I don't see them having much trouble considering how easily, Leos katana pierced Shredders armor.

Shredder wins.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
I don't see them having much trouble considering how easily, Leos katana pierced Shredders armor.

Leo is much stronger than Khan and Blade though.

Cap solos, don;t see how the blades get past the shield

He can launch like 12 of them at a time. And if Cap tries to block the first volley, he can't block the second volley coming right after.

Also how will Cap solo? Shredder is stronger, more durable, and fast enough to outfight the turtles who are bullet timers.

Originally posted by KingD19
He can launch like 12 of them at a time. And if Cap tries to block the first volley, he can't block the second volley coming right after.

Also how will Cap solo? Shredder is stronger, more durable, and fast enough to outfight the turtles who are bullet timers.

i saw the film only im not "al bundying" Shrdeder like appear to be..

Cap is agile as he was shown to be,,, So doubtful he will just stand there, not put up his shield and take Shredder's blades, also AS I FRACKING RECALL, the blades have to return back to Shredder,.. so that is plenty of time for Cap to block, spring into action and KO Shredder

Letting one side keep powered armor while not allowing the other side their standard equipment makes it pretty obvious which side carter wants to win.

That said, I'd have to watch the movie again but it seemed to me that the Turtles seriously jobbed in that fight as Shredder didn't really seem that fast, not to mention the turtles kind of fought like retards for most of it.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
i saw the film only im not "al bundying" Shrdeder like appear to be..

Cap is agile as he was shown to be,,, So doubtful he will just stand there, not put up his shield and take Shredder's blades, also AS I FRACKING RECALL, the blades have to return back to Shredder,.. so that is plenty of time for Cap to block, spring into action and KO Shredder

I know Cap is agile. So are the turtles. And of the five, only the mutants are bullet timers. Shredder walked the dog on them every single time they fought, while taking on all four at once. They had to use buck-buck to beat him.

And yes, the blades do have to return, but he has multiple blades on each arm. As I said, while Cap is trying to block the first set, Shredder can launch the second set to get his legs or another open spot on his body. The shield only covers so much. But besides that the blades come back in moments, so he'd have to deal with them on the return if he actually charged in.

How would Cap ko him? The turtles who were strong enough to toss around multi-ton cargo containers and tear down stone walls couldn't ko him even when they finally landed some solid shots on him

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
i saw the film only im not "al bundying" Shrdeder like appear to be..

Cap is agile as he was shown to be,,, So doubtful he will just stand there, not put up his shield and take Shredder's blades, also AS I FRACKING RECALL, the blades have to return back to Shredder,.. so that is plenty of time for Cap to block, spring into action and KO Shredder



Cap is so overrated. Shredder fought against beings that could lift building size skyscrapers and was stomping them. People that are legit bullet timers. People that was throwing large crates around with ease and again, shredder stomped them. One of the turtles would crush Cap and you think Cap can beat shredder by himself? Yeah freaking right.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Letting one side keep powered armor while not allowing the other side their standard equipment makes it pretty obvious which side carter wants to win.

That said, I'd have to watch the movie again but it seemed to me that the Turtles seriously jobbed in that fight as Shredder didn't really seem that fast, not to mention the turtles kind of fought like retards for most of it.

We never saw Shredder do much without his armor, but it's clear without it he's not superhuman, which is why he needs it in the first place.

Giving them standard weapons wouldn't mean much with Blade as I'm pretty sure the armor could at least stand up to 9mm bullets Blade has, and I believe they're silver so they'd be softer(iirc). But Khan has phasers which could do some actual damage and end the match before it really starts.

And they had to job to make Shredder look like a badass the entire movie. But if we go by what was meant, Shredder is bigger, tougher, faster, etc... than the turtles in his armor. Not Splinter though. Splinter beat his ass.

Originally posted by KingD19
I know Cap is agile. So are the turtles. And of the five, only the mutants are bullet timers. Shredder walked the dog on them every single time they fought, while taking on all four at once. They had to use buck-buck to beat him.

And yes, the blades do have to return, but he has multiple blades on each arm. As I said, while Cap is trying to block the first set, Shredder can launch the second set to get his legs or another open spot on his body. The shield only covers so much. But besides that the blades come back in moments, so he'd have to deal with them on the return if he actually charged in.

How would Cap ko him? The turtles who were strong enough to toss around multi-ton cargo containers and tear down stone walls couldn't ko him even when they finally landed some solid shots on him

The ONLY reason they won was because they were fighting on a building. If it wasn't for that, they would have died.

Originally posted by KingD19
We never saw Shredder do much without his armor, but it's clear without it he's not superhuman, which is why he needs it in the first place.

Giving them standard weapons wouldn't mean much with Blade as I'm pretty sure the armor could at least stand up to 9mm bullets Blade has, and I believe they're silver so they'd be softer(iirc). But Khan has phasers which could do some actual damage and end the match before it really starts.

And they had to job to make Shredder look like a badass the entire movie. But if we go by what was meant, Shredder is bigger, tougher, faster, etc... than the turtles in his armor. Not Splinter though. Splinter beat his ass.

Don't see how they jobbed. He was just that good.

Originally posted by carver9
Don't see how they jobbed. He was just that good.

He was good. But basically he made them look like children every time they fought. He shouldn't have been able to effortlessly take on 4 highly trained super turtles all at once. Beat them I'm fine with, but with the contemptuous ease he did it made it seems like the Turtles weren't as effective as they were.

Originally posted by carver9
The ONLY reason they won was because they were fighting on a building. If it wasn't for that, they would have died.

That's true. But the ONLY reason Shredder could fight them in the first place is he had to get a set of Ultra Armor.

Well, after Shredder beat that one foot soldier while tied up he was able to break the ropes rather easily which is a fairly good strength feat....but back to his armored figts, he didn't appear to be all that fast in either one so I don't see any reason to grant him BT level speed, I mean we don't grant Wolverine bullet time++ combat speed because he was able to tag Deadpool.

Even if Blade's bullets couldn't damage him, they could certainly act as a distraction and allow him to stay at range and yes Khan's weapons could end the fight quickly, but then so could Shredder's ranged weapons. IMO it's pretty clear that carter set this up as spite thread.

Originally posted by carver9


Cap is so overrated. Shredder fought against beings that could lift building size skyscrapers and was stomping them. People that are legit bullet timers. People that was throwing large crates around with ease and again, shredder stomped them. One of the turtles would crush Cap and you think Cap can beat shredder by himself? Yeah freaking right.

so you must have been banned from Comic V.. I take it lololololololololol.. Do you watch movies?? lolololololo,lololol



Originally posted by KingD19
I know Cap is agile. So are the turtles. And of the five, only the mutants are bullet timers. Shredder walked the dog on them every single time they fought, while taking on all four at once. They had to use buck-buck to beat him.

And yes, the blades do have to return, but he has multiple blades on each arm. As I said, while Cap is trying to block the first set, Shredder can launch the second set to get his legs or another open spot on his body. The shield only covers so much. But besides that the blades come back in moments, so he'd have to deal with them on the return if he actually charged in.

How would Cap ko him? The turtles who were strong enough to toss around multi-ton cargo containers and tear down stone walls couldn't ko him even when they finally landed some solid shots on him

doesn;t mean Shredder can do all that to Cap though.. Yea they had to use a child's game to win, Cap isn;t a child but a grown ass man, who will evade and whack Shredder upside the head to KO him.. For all the strength and other shit you named, they had to rely on child's play, which to me was very funny as i was watching ..

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
so you must have been banned from Comic V.. I take it lololololololololol.. Do you watch movies?? lolololololo,lololol





doesn;t mean Shredder can do all that to Cap though.. Yea they had to use a child's game to win, Cap isn;t a child but a grown ass man, who will evade and whack Shredder upside the head to KO him.. For all the strength and other shit you named, they had to rely on child's play, which to me was very funny as i was watching ..

I'm...I'm not sure if he's serious.

Originally posted by KingD19
I'm...I'm not sure if he's serious.

To be fair, he's responding to carter, who actually said this

Originally posted by carver9
Cap is so overrated. Shredder fought against beings that could lift building size skyscrapers.

Originally posted by Silent Master
To be fair, he's responding to carter, who actually said this

He was also responding to me(mostly) from when I said the Turtles chucked around cargo containers that weighed a ton or more and when Raph broke a stone wall that brought down half a corridor.

I was banned from comicvine after being in the battle forums hall of fame lol.

Anyway I agree no way Cap is soloing. It clear shredder was a minor version of Iron Man.

Shredder rapes them.

Out of all of them..Shredder has the best Martial Arts skills and heighten senses, IMO. CA Shield won't pose a problem other than annoyance.

Shredder is not only more skilled then any of them he is stronger and faster.
He could easily kill Khan and Blade by spamming those knives right from the start.

Stronger, faster, more durable, more skilled, has infinite ranged weapons that move pretty damn fast.

He has all the advantages here.

That was carter's intent....why else would he pit relatively normal action heroes against someone in a mech suit.

Well all of them are superhuman to one extent or another. Just not to the levels of even one Turtle, and all four of them got stomped out by Shredder.

Originally posted by KingD19
Well all of them are superhuman to one extent or another. Just not to the levels of even one Turtle, and all four of them got stomped out by Shredder.

To a very minor extent, hence my (relatively normal) comment...carter very clearly meant this to be a spite thread. I think Bruce was just messing with him by saying Cap solos.