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Wow, Pacific Rim is above Godzilla 2014? Thats wrong as far fight placement goes.

Stops at GZ but clears the rest, even Pacific Rim.

He makes it all the way to end then loses against Zod. Reeve's era kryptonians>MOS kryptonians.

Originally posted by Star428
He makes it all the way to end then loses against Zod. Reeve's era kryptonians>MOS kryptonians.

How does he beat GZ here? None of Sipes feats show he can harm GZ. Meanwhile GZ hits 100s of times harder than MOS Faora or Zod when comparing damage.

So MOS beat GZ how?

Originally posted by Star428
He makes it all the way to end then loses against Zod. Reeve's era kryptonians>MOS kryptonians.

How the **** does he beat Metro Man?

Metro Man is by far the most dangerous character in this gauntlet.

I figured he meant Meteor Man, the hero Robert Townsend played back in the 90's.

Which was lame.

Still no way for MOS to harm GZ 2014 or not be harmed by said version of GZ.

From what I heard of Metro Man, he stomps

Godzilla is a stalemate, again

Everything else loses. Badly

EDIT: Didn't notice Reeves Supes-verse Zod. He bolostomps the MoS-verse

If it is Metro Man, obviously he wins, as does Zod. Everyone else, including Godzilla, get killed.

Kal-El finally kneels before Zod. (No tricks this time)

Stops at Hulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Stops at Hulk.

Originally posted by Star428
He gets pummeled by the Hulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He gets bored by the Hulk's attempts at tagging him and punching him and then decides to blitz and bolostomp him.

Fixed it for you

Which X-men?

Actually might stop at X-Men. He hasn't shown telepathic defenses.

Didn't he when Zod tried to mind f*ck him for the location of his ship?

Originally posted by Silent Master
I figured he meant Meteor Man, the hero Robert Townsend played back in the 90's.
You are correct.

Actually if it is a composite Hulk/Chronicle, I could see H/C winning. X Men as well depending if they get Phoenix (I am still of the belief that Xavier's mutant TP won't work on extraterrestrial Kryptonians)

Originally posted by Lestov16
Actually if it is a composite Hulk/Chronicle, I could see H/C winning. X Men as well depending if they get Phoenix (I am still of the belief that Xavier's mutant TP won't work on extraterrestrial Kryptonians)

I doubt Hulk could use the Chronicle power effectively since it required a lot of focus and control. He's pretty much a just a rage monster but assuming he could use the power perfectly, Superman would be in for a great fight.

I'm assuming PIS/CIS is off and he has full control over the power

Then Supes would have to take Hulk to space or in the ocean to assure a win. Otherwise it would probably be a long day.

Or Hulk can use his TK to bisect Supes

I see I made some confusion in this tread. I meant a combination of Hulk and the Chronicle team. Basically all them together fighting as a team against MOS.

Oh, in that case Supes speedblitzes the Chronicles and overtakes Hulk

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Fixed it for you Based on ?

One could stop him, Meteor Man stomps him based off of strength fts (the guy fell and created a city wide earth quake). His speed ft poops on Superman speed fts as well. While weakened he caught machine gun bullets from at least 8 shooters and it didn't touch anyone behind him. Robert holds EVERY advantage.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Or Hulk can use his TK to bisect Supes

Cronicle never showed power on that level.

Originally posted by carver9
One could stop him, Meteor Man stomps him based off of strength fts (the guy fell and created a city wide earth quake). His speed ft poops on Superman speed fts as well. While weakened he caught machine gun bullets from at least 8 shooters and it didn't touch anyone behind him. Robert holds EVERY advantage.

Didin't he catch a bullet in his teeth too? Haven't seen that movie in YEARS!

It's sad when people think MOS can take 2014 GZ. He shown to tank 14 megatons worth of nuke with no damage. He tanked every weapon of man from 6 inch guns to harpoon missiles that sink battleships with no damage. He has withstood the freaking meteor that wrecked earth before dinosaurs existed.

There is no feat of Superman in the MOS movie to show he can harm GZ. However GZ can harm Superman. In the MOS movie Superman was having issues with the very weak in damage scope hits from Faora and Zod. GZ is 90,0000 tons of sky scraper busting strength thrown around. His nuke breath smolder a Muto capable of tanking anti tank missiles from fighter jets. It was unclear if a nuke could harm her. Yet GZ nuke breath did, knock the fight out of her for a little bit too.

Fact is GZ 2014 > MOS movies feats.

It was actually a 15 megaton bomb. MOS Supes cannot kill Legendary Goji.

Killing is not the only way to win. Plus he was injured by the Mutos. It's not impossible for Superman to win

Originally posted by juggerman
Killing is not the only way to win. Plus he was injured by the Mutos. It's not impossible for Superman to win

I question this for a few reasons.

1) GZ was running across the world for days. He was stamina wise pretty tired IMO.

2) GZ showed no visual damage to his body. We really only see exhaustion more so than damage from 1 Muto who is equals to GZ in weight and height, as well another Muto who can lift 30,000 tons of Russian nuke sub with ease.

3) GZ high end showings out rank the few hits he took from the Muto's which can be jot down more so to exhaustion.

So it debatable if the Muto's harm him at all. There was no visual damage to him, and much context before the fight(s). Also Superman never shown strength in the move on the damage scale the Muto's shown.

Originally posted by marvelmadness13
It was actually a 15 megaton bomb. MOS Supes cannot kill Legendary Goji.

I read up 14. something Megatons. Not quite 15. "Googles various sites" many actually say 15. Even better

Originally posted by CadenceV2
It's sad when people think MOS can take 2014 GZ. He shown to tank 14 megatons worth of nuke with no damage. He tanked every weapon of man from 6 inch guns to harpoon missiles that sink battleships with no damage. He has withstood the freaking meteor that wrecked earth before dinosaurs existed.

There is no feat of Superman in the MOS movie to show he can harm GZ. However GZ can harm Superman. In the MOS movie Superman was having issues with the very weak in damage scope hits from Faora and Zod. GZ is 90,0000 tons of sky scraper busting strength thrown around. His nuke breath smolder a Muto capable of tanking anti tank missiles from fighter jets. It was unclear if a nuke could harm her. Yet GZ nuke breath did, knock the fight out of her for a little bit too.

Fact is GZ 2014 > MOS movies feats.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DnpbG2q4s1o/UiijQtdRYhI/AAAAAAAAAuw/RWkS_JJnzP0/s1600/issue+4.jpg


Film canon directly states he was only hit by a blast in the kilotons. Sure RL Castle Bravo was megatons, but obviously GZ isn't real life so if they say he was only hit by kilotons, that's the film canon and you can't change it just because IRL events differ.


No feat to show he can harm Godzilla? Dude flew straight through the World Engine which was terraforming the entire planet with it's gravity waves. Kryptonians were tossing everything from locomotives to satellites with the same ease as tossing a baseball. Godzilla may be big, but Supes is way faster, and there's zilch way Godzilla's going to tag him.

Hell, Supes' HV should be enough to at the very least scar GZ. Godzilla was getting owned by 2 MUTOs. Supes held his own against 2 kryptonians.


Zod fried an entire skyscraper in half in about 5 seconds and he wasn't even trying. Also Supes has busted mountains, again uninjured. GZ nuke breath won't do shit to Supes even if it does touch him, which, since Supes is too fast, it definitely won't. All Supes has to do is drill a hole in the back of GZ's head and game over.

Originally posted by CadenceV2
I question this for a few reasons.

1) GZ was running across the world for days. He was stamina wise pretty tired IMO.

2) GZ showed no visual damage to his body. We really only see exhaustion more so than damage from 1 Muto who is equals to GZ in weight and height, as well another Muto who can lift 30,000 tons of Russian nuke sub with ease.

3) GZ high end showings out rank the few hits he took from the Muto's which can be jot down more so to exhaustion.

So it debatable if the Muto's harm him at all. There was no visual damage to him, and much context before the fight(s). Also Superman never shown strength in the move on the damage scale the Muto's shown.

Zilla was screaming out in pain when the mutos attacked it. Seems like it was hurt.

Originally posted by Lestov16
All Supes has to do is drill a hole in the back of GZ's head and game over.

I was thinking the eye. Or maybe a nostril

Originally posted by juggerman
Zilla was screaming out in pain when the mutos attacked it. Seems like it was hurt.

He reacted yes. But by the end of the fight he didn't even have any wounds, and this is after Mama Muto literally used him as a bounce house and was stabbing him to shit with her spikes.

Originally posted by KingD19
He reacted yes. But by the end of the fight he didn't even have any wounds, and this is after Mama Muto literally used him as a bounce house and was stabbing him to shit with her spikes.

It wasn't just a recation tho. It screamed in pain. SCREAMED. It wasn't like a quick yip like a minor thing. You don't scream out like that unless there is some damage done.

EDIT: I'm pretty sure there were wounds. The fight took place at night so maybe they were hard to see

Originally posted by Lestov16
Or Hulk can use his TK to bisect Supes In what world do you live in where the TK shown in Chronicle can so much as scratch Superman?

Originally posted by NemeBro
In what world do you live in where the TK shown in Chronicle can so much as scratch Superman?

Didn't you see the deleted scenes?

Originally posted by juggerman
It wasn't just a recation tho. It screamed in pain. SCREAMED. It wasn't like a quick yip like a minor thing. You don't scream out like that unless there is some damage done.

I remember the noises he made. And the MUTO's clearly hurt him. However any damage seems to have been temporary. You can't ignore the fact that she was dropping her entire body weight onto her spikes as she jumped on him.

So either she simply didn't pierce his skin(which would show amazing durability), or his healing factor is fast enough to recover massive wounds in an extremely short amount of time.

What would happen if Superman flies through Godzilla's eyeball and into its brain?

You have to take into account that Superman is pound for pound probably more powerful than Godzilla, much faster, and is capable of easily exploiting weak points like that that the MUTOs could not.

Originally posted by NemeBro
What would happen if Superman flies through Godzilla's eyeball and into its brain?

And then used heat vision!!!!!!!!!

That's true. I was never arguing Godzilla could beat Clark. Just pointing out Godzilla is either really tough or has a really high end HF to not be injured in the slightest after his fight with the MUTO's, despite being stabbed, tossed around, clawed, bitten, and all that other stuff.

He was physically unharmed by the end of that fight. And leaving unharmed not even 24 hours later after a short nap(and this of course after swimming all over the world chasing the MUTO's down from location to location and fighting both of them at the same time)

Originally posted by KingD19
I remember the noises he made. And the MUTO's clearly hurt him. However any damage seems to have been temporary. You can't ignore the fact that she was dropping her entire body weight onto her spikes as she jumped on him.

So either she simply didn't pierce his skin(which would show amazing durability), or his healing factor is fast enough to recover massive wounds in an extremely short amount of time.

I agree that Zilla is a monster to have survived all that but it still shows that less than a nuke can harm it. Concussive force to it's back(probably the most protected area) isn't the same as more directed force to a less durable area.

Originally posted by KingD19
That's true. I was never arguing Godzilla could beat Clark.

Sorry i got you and CadenceV2 mixed up. My bad

Originally posted by Lestov16


Film canon directly states he was only hit by a blast in the kilotons. Sure RL Castle Bravo was megatons, but obviously GZ isn't real life so if they say he was only hit by kilotons, that's the film canon and you can't change it just because IRL events differ.


No feat to show he can harm Godzilla? Dude flew straight through the World Engine which was terraforming the entire planet with it's gravity waves. Kryptonians were tossing everything from locomotives to satellites with the same ease as tossing a baseball. Godzilla may be big, but Supes is way faster, and there's zilch way Godzilla's going to tag him.

Hell, Supes' HV should be enough to at the very least scar GZ. Godzilla was getting owned by 2 MUTOs. Supes held his own against 2 kryptonians.


Zod fried an entire skyscraper in half in about 5 seconds and he wasn't even trying. Also Supes has busted mountains, again uninjured. GZ nuke breath won't do shit to Supes even if it does touch him, which, since Supes is too fast, it definitely won't. All Supes has to do is drill a hole in the back of GZ's head and game over.

Ahh the oh so famous out of context Kiliton nuke argument lol. So your referring to the Navy Captain stating weapons of that age were in the kilotons, even though he had know knowledge GZ was hit with castle Bravo which was clearly shown in the beginning of the movie, and then confirmed in the official prequel comic to the movie?

Flimsy argument is really flimsy.

Same world engine that failed to flatten the buildings around it? That same weak a$$ Wolrd Engine?

Same Heat Vision that failed to cut through the building Zod was blasting at the end? The most the HV vision did was cut through steel. Big deal. Nuke fire of Nukes reach degrees of sun temperatures. GZ tanked that heat with no damage at all and spews Nuke fire from his body

Drill a hole in GZ? Through Durability far greater than Supes ever punched through? Even if you argue the eyes, I can point to the Official prequel comic to the movie by Legendary and the writer of the movie.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/KingGojira2014/Official_zpsc3897874.png

As seen 100% official to the movie canon as per the writer, producers, and Legendary.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/KingGojira2014/GZvsCastleBravoNuke4_zps4903e929.png

As seen GZ had his eyes open while hit with 14 Mega Tons of force with no eye ruptures or damage. Also consistent with the movie as no armor piercing missile or shell penetrated GZ.

Your logic is not so supportive now when context and feats are shown.

Originally posted by NemeBro
What would happen if Superman flies through Godzilla's eyeball and into its brain?

You have to take into account that Superman is pound for pound probably more powerful than Godzilla, much faster, and is capable of easily exploiting weak points like that that the MUTOs could not.

Pound for pound stronger? How so? his damage output with Zod is pathetic to the damage output of GZ fight with Female Muto. Not seeing this.

Also I doubt he can just fly into the brain as I never seen ANY Superman version or MOS himself show this kinda of thinking or move in a battle. There is also the fact GZ with his eyes open tanked 15 Megatons and nuke fire with no damage to said eyes shown.

Im just not seeing Superman from MOS hitting with this much force.

http://s9.photobucket.com/user/KingGojira2014/media/GZvsAsteroid1_zps9afc6f14.png.html?sort=4&o=87
http://s9.photobucket.com/user/KingGojira2014/media/GZvsAsteroid2_zps01816b7f.png.html?sort=4&o=88

GZ in this did not even showed any signs of damage at ground zero of that impact. he simply stands there, and jumps in the ocean shortly afterward. I see no proof MOS can hit with the same force of a 15 Megaton Nuke that leaves over a mile wide crater in the earth.

the feats for MOS currently are just not there. Its pure fan fantasy that he should beat GZ 2014 as he is right now.

At no point in those scans does it say the yield of the blast. The film says it is kilotons, so that is the canon. Stopping saying he got hit with megatons when he didn't. The IRL CB blast isn't the same as the one in GZ. Just accept that.

Originally posted by Lestov16
At no point in those scans does it say the yield of the blast. The film says it is kilotons, so that is the canon. Stopping saying he got hit with megatons when he didn't. The IRL CB blast isn't the same as the one in GZ. Just accept that.

Wow, your argument is that Castle Bravo is not the same blast based on no evidence other than the out of context statement of a Navy Captain who never knew GZ was specifically hit by Castle Bravo? He made instead a accurate statement of how Nukes back then were Kilotons, but again never was told or had a way to known GZ was hit specifically with Castle Bravo?

Your whole flimsy argument is based on that statement even though it was stated as Castle Bravo here.

http://s9.photobucket.com/user/KingGojira2014/media/GZvsCastleBravoNuke1_zps81b46a43.png.html?sort=4&o=91

Then shown here in the beginning of the movie with the various footage of Castle Bravo (and another nuke test) here.

Also in the movie the scientist stated the date and location of the Castle Bravo test when discussing Godzilla.... Yet your argument is based on a Navy Captain who was never told specifically it was Castle Bravo that hit GZ and not a normal Kiloton Nuke of that day that he could easily been thinking of when saying random crap on a subject he had no details about, unlike the scientist who was there?

That is seriously your argument I think all that needs to be said has been there

Do you comprehend what I and the film said? The CB detonation in GZ is not the same as the IRL one, and as stated by film canon was only kiloton, not megaton. Unless now you are going to claim the IRL CB detonation was to kill a giant radioactive dinosaur

Edit LOL you are seriously claiming the characters were written to not know WTF they are talking about? Just stop

Originally posted by Lestov16
Do you comprehend what I and the film said? The CB detonation in GZ is not the same as the IRL one, and as stated by film canon was only kiloton, not megaton. Unless now you are going to claim the IRL CB detonation was to kill a giant radioactive dinosaur

Edit LOL you are seriously claiming the characters were written to not know WTF they are talking about? Just stop

So again you ignore the fact the movie Navy Captain said Kiloton which is true on Nukes of that age, but was never told it was CB nuke was the one used on GZ?



Flimsy argument is still really flimsy. I have a better idea, how about you explain to me how Superman can harm GZ with his punches? After all they were stated only punches. Hardest punch IRL is way below car busting. There is no statement these punches are in the building busting or higher range

^ Thats how flimsy your argument is

LOL what irony talking about a flimsy argument when yours essentially is that the characters were written to be misinformed.

Why not? There is so many movies where a character is misinformed and gets in trouble for it. Happens ALL THE TIME in comedy's, drama, action, horror, ect movies.

Really guy? Your argument now is characters in movies are never misinformed

I know readers will see who has the flimsy argument here. Glad to debate this with ya.

Thanks for trying to straw man my argument. When characters are misinformed in movies, it has a direct impact on the plot. In GZ, it was clearly exposition coming from a professional and obviously the audience was supposed to take his word for it. Your argument sucks more than a dirt devil.

I can't believe there are people who think Godzilla has a chance against MoS. 2 MUTOs owned it, a skyscraper falling on it almost killed it. Plus, there's no way he could ever hit someone as small and as fast as Superman.

Anyway, stops at Zod.

Originally posted by Psychotron
I can't believe there are people who think Godzilla has a chance against MoS. 2 MUTOs owned it, a skyscraper falling on it almost killed it. Plus, there's no way he could ever hit someone as small and as fast as Superman.

Anyway, stops at Zod.

Still waiting for proof of any kind MoS can harm Godzilla.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111191676/4115516-gz+vs+nukes.png

Can he hit harder than a kiloton Nuke? In the movie itself, it was shown and stated GZ was hit by Nukes of the time by both Russia and America. None of the various nukes worked.

In the official comic by the company, producers, and writer of the movie we get more feats.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111191676/4115491-gz+vs+castle+bravo+nuke+%281%29.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111191676/4115492-gz+vs+castle+bravo+nuke+%282%29.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111191676/4115494-gz+vs+castle+bravo+nuke+%284%29.png

MoS Supes can Hit Harder than a 15 Megaton Nuke?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111191676/4115520-gz+vs+asteroid+%281%29.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111191676/4115521-gz+vs+asteroid+%282%29.png

Hit harder than the Asteroid that changed earth?

This is 2014 Godzilla feats of Durability as per Legendary Stidios, the Producers of the movie, and original screen writer of the movie.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11116/111165599/3874558-capture.png

Mutos are beings who never put a scratch on Godzilla, and at best beat on a tired Godzilla who chased them for days.

Also doubt Superman is walking away from the Nuke Breath which is pretty fast as it had like zero travel time in the movie frame rates.

Again, the CB blast in GZ14 canon is not the same as the real life one. In the screenshot you posted, they directly say it was only a kiloton blast, not megaton. Not sure why you aren't comprehending that. Also, GZ didn't tank the kinetic energy of Permian impact to the face. He survived because he burrowed underground and avoided the planetary changes that killed off many other species. You are aware the the kinetic energy of the meteor itself isn't what caused most Permian extinctions, right?

Originally posted by CadenceV2
Still waiting for proof of any kind MoS can harm Godzilla.

He pushed through the World Engine beam which was crushing skyscrapers on the other end of the world, and Superman was depowered while doing that. Superman also overpowered the singularity which was akin to a black hole. MoS and Zod were destroying skyscrapers like nothing in their battle, while Godzilla was nearly KOed by one. Hell, Godzilla was getting buttf*cked by the MUTOs. He can't even tag Superman, he's too small and too fast, not to mention very durable, that nigga crashed through a mountain without a scratch.

Btw, I'm not gonna read those comics, because:
1. They don't apply here.
2. It was directly stated in the movie that Godzilla was hit with bombs in the kiloton range, not megatons.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Again, the CB blast in GZ14 canon is not the same as the real life one. In the screenshot you posted, they directly say it was only a kiloton blast, not megaton. Not sure why you aren't comprehending that. Also, GZ didn't tank the kinetic energy of Permian impact to the face. He survived because he burrowed underground and avoided the planetary changes that killed off many other species. You are aware the the kinetic energy of the meteor itself isn't what caused most Permian extinctions, right?

Wow, you miss the point then too. They never specify Castle Bravo at all in the movie period. They did state in the movie Gz was hit by Multiple Nukes (as in more than one) by America and Russia. Also those Scientist explained the Nuke would not work to the Navy Admiral and Captain, the Captain disagreed. Sooo....

1) Show me proof in the movie where the Navy Captain stated Castle Bravo and not the random nukes the Russians and Americans used before that option or after that option?

2) Show me proof the Captain of the ship knew more about Godzilla than the sceintist who studied and had all the facts why a Modern Nuke option would not work?

Your theory is pretty easily countered on CB being weaker for no explained reason other than your very faulty oponion it is

Originally posted by Psychotron
He pushed through the World Engine beam which was crushing skyscrapers on the other end of the world, and Superman was depowered while doing that. Superman also overpowered the singularity which was akin to a black hole. MoS and Zod were destroying skyscrapers like nothing in their battle, while Godzilla was nearly KOed by one. Hell, Godzilla was getting buttf*cked by the MUTOs. He can't even tag Superman, he's too small and too fast, not to mention very durable, that nigga crashed through a mountain without a scratch.

Btw, I'm not gonna read those comics, because:
1. They don't apply here.
2. It was directly stated in the movie that Godzilla was hit with bombs in the kiloton range, not megatons.

So Superman harmed by building busting punches can survive a unofficial fan called Black Hole? World Engine that failed to crush those same buildings in a long time frame is proof of what now?

So what your saying is I will not read the approve canon to the movie becuase it hurts my own views of Superman winning, and I will go with this faulty fact of a Navy Captain who has no idea on anything Godzilla related argument against the Scientist of the movie who knew everything about Godzilla?

OK sure, being ignorant to the feats and context is a way to debate things I guess

Originally posted by CadenceV2
Wow, you miss the point then too. They never specify Castle Bravo at all in the movie period. They did state in the movie Gz was hit by Multiple Nukes (as in more than one) by America and Russia. Also those Scientist explained the Nuke would not work to the Navy Admiral and Captain, the Captain disagreed. Sooo....

1) Show me proof in the movie where the Navy Captain stated Castle Bravo and not the random nukes the Russians and Americans used before that option or after that option?

2) Show me proof the Captain of the ship knew more about Godzilla than the sceintist who studied and had all the facts why a Modern Nuke option would not work?

Your theory is pretty easily countered on CB being weaker for no explained reason other than your very faulty oponion it is

English, muthaphucka, do you speak it? Doesn't matter WTF was implied in the comics. In the film they directly state he has never been hit by a megaton-range yield. They directly state that Castle Bravo and the other nuke attempts were in the kiloton range only, logically meaning their combined yield didn't equal megaton-range.

You're talking about my faulty opinion? I'm taking the captain at his word because that's clearly what the audience was supposed to do. You're the one coming off with half-cocked theories about the writers of the film making the captain stupid for no reason just to justify an inaccurate durability feat.

Originally posted by Psychotron
He pushed through the World Engine beam which was crushing skyscrapers on the other end of the world, and Superman was depowered while doing that. Superman also overpowered the singularity which was akin to a black hole. MoS and Zod were destroying skyscrapers like nothing in their battle, while Godzilla was nearly KOed by one. Hell, Godzilla was getting buttf*cked by the MUTOs. He can't even tag Superman, he's too small and too fast, not to mention very durable, that nigga crashed through a mountain without a scratch.

Btw, I'm not gonna read those comics, because:
1. They don't apply here.
2. It was directly stated in the movie that Godzilla was hit with bombs in the kiloton range, not megatons.

Looks like we got another juggerquan situation.

Why the **** is this guy trying to use comic feats in a movie versus battle?

And how the hell is Godzilla tagging superman?

Comics and such can be used if they are canon to the films, but obviously not if the film itself directly contradicts/retcons them.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Comics and such can be used if they are canon to the films, but obviously not if the film itself directly contradicts/retcons them.

So those Godzilla comics are or are not canon?

IDK, but even if they were, the film retcons them. Hell, even if they were, that still wouldn't be enough to stack up against MOS.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Comics and such can be used if they are canon to the films, but obviously not if the film itself directly contradicts/retcons them.

Which it never did lol. The Movie never states Castle Bravo at all. In fact in many Godzilla 2014 arguments people argued GZ was never hit with Castle Bravo at all till the comic prequel came out and confirmed he was at one point. 'shrugs'

Haters going to hate

Originally posted by Stanor

And how the hell is Godzilla tagging superman?

Originally posted by CadenceV2
Which it never did lol. The Movie never states Castle Bravo at all. In fact in many Godzilla 2014 arguments people argued GZ was never hit with Castle Bravo at all till the comic prequel came out and confirmed he was at one point. 'shrugs'

Haters going to hate

Um, I distinctly remember them stating Castle Bravo and other Pacific nukings were secretly attempts to kill it. But even if I am remembering wrong, film directly states he has never been hit by a megaton yield. That is the only canon and dialogue that matters.

Originally posted by CadenceV2
So Superman harmed by building busting punches can survive a unofficial fan called Black Hole? World Engine that failed to crush those same buildings in a long time frame is proof of what now?

So what your saying is I will not read the approve canon to the movie becuase it hurts my own views of Superman winning, and I will go with this faulty fact of a Navy Captain who has no idea on anything Godzilla related argument against the Scientist of the movie who knew everything about Godzilla?

OK sure, being ignorant to the feats and context is a way to debate things I guess

Superman wasn't seriously harmed by Zod's punches, wtf are you talking about? He didn't even get a bloody lip. Godzilla, OTOH, was almost killed by one building, and collapsed after the fight. He's weak as shit. The WE DID crush those buildings, did you even see the movie?

And how does Godzilla even hit Superman?

Your comics directly contradict what was said in the movie, they are irrelevant.

Sigh, again haters going to hate.

Unless the Navy Captain specifically stated Castle Bravo was kilotons, then he was not talking about Castle Bravo nuke. All he stated was the one in 54 look like a firecracker which is very vague as both Americans and Russians used many nuke test to kill Godzilla as stated in the movie.

Neither one of you guys have any proof of anything other than your bias opinions on that.

It's desperate Arguing at its best. Not supported by facts and evidence to the contrary deal with it.

WTF is your point? The only thing that matters is that Godzilla has never been hit by a megaton yield, as directly stated in the film.

Originally posted by Stanor
how the hell is Godzilla tagging superman?

Originally posted by Lestov16
Looks like we got another juggerquan situation.

One word: McClaine.

I sincerely didn't mean to insult you, jug.

You're forgiven

Originally posted by CadenceV2
Sigh, again haters going to hate.

Unless the Navy Captain specifically stated Castle Bravo was kilotons, then he was not talking about Castle Bravo nuke. All he stated was the one in 54 look like a firecracker which is very vague as both Americans and Russians used many nuke test to kill Godzilla as stated in the movie.

Neither one of you guys have any proof of anything other than your bias opinions on that.

It's desperate Arguing at its best. Not supported by facts and evidence to the contrary deal with it.

Mate, you have absolutely no proof that the comic is canon, as it directly contradicts what was said and shown in the movie, and until you do we have nothing to discuss.

And I'll ask again, how can Godzilla even hit Superman?

Mos lifts his big ass off the planet and into the sun.

Navy captain never said Castle Bravo in any sentence when making the coments of kilotons to Mega tons. Fact.

The movie clearly stated by the scientist Godzilla was hit by various nuclear test by America and Russia in 1954 which would possibly be in the Kilotons. Fact.

Scientist who know all about Godzilla stated modern nukes would not work because they tried it before, which they did with CB nuke test. Navy captain who has no expert knowledge on GZ stated nukes back then were KT and not MT. Fact.

Nothing is contradicted in the comic to the movie and further more the comic is stated as "official" prequel to the movie regardless by Legendary and the GZ 2014 screen writer.

You guys need a new argument, relying on a clearly out of context quote of a unreliable stand in character is poor argument when your opinions are easy countered by the Above facts from the dialog from the movie

Originally posted by CadenceV2
Navy captain never said Castle Bravo in any sentence when making the coments of kilotons to Mega tons. Fact.

The movie clearly stated by the scientist Godzilla was hit by various nuclear test by America and Russia in 1954 which would possibly be in the Kilotons. Fact.

Scientist who know all about Godzilla stated modern nukes would not work because they tried it before, which they did with CB nuke test. Navy captain who has no expert knowledge on GZ stated nukes back then were KT and not MT. Fact.

Nothing is contradicted in the comic to the movie and further more the comic is stated as "official" prequel to the movie regardless by Legendary and the GZ 2014 screen writer.

You guys need a new argument, relying on a clearly out of context quote of a unreliable stand in character is poor argument when your opinions are easy countered by the Above facts from the dialog from the movie


Originally posted by Stanor
how the hell is Godzilla tagging superman?

Originally posted by Stanor


GZ is not tagging Superman in flight. It's just there is nothing he can do to GZ in turn for a win. Even BFR is not a option as GZ weighs more than Superman ever came close to lifting in the movie. The oil rig scene may be close, but I know he struggled with that, and GZ would wreck said oil rig easy.

So in the end MoS cannot really beat 2014 GZ, which is the point of this match. He cannot pass GZ.

Um, no. MOS is going to own GZ. GZ's best durability feat doesn't nearly equate to Kal's.

Originally posted by CadenceV2
GZ is not tagging Superman in flight. It's just there is nothing he can do to GZ in turn for a win. Even BFR is not a option as GZ weighs more than Superman ever came close to lifting in the movie. The oil rig scene may be close, but I know he struggled with that, and GZ would wreck said oil rig easy.

So in the end MoS cannot really beat 2014 GZ, which is the point of this match. He cannot pass GZ.

You do realize that the scene with the oil rig is him with his powers still fully undeveloped right?

Originally posted by Stanor
You do realize that the scene with the oil rig is him with his powers still fully undeveloped right?

Yeah people know. But that's the art of lowballing.

Originally posted by CadenceV2
GZ is not tagging Superman in flight. It's just there is nothing he can do to GZ in turn for a win. Even BFR is not a option as GZ weighs more than Superman ever came close to lifting in the movie. The oil rig scene may be close, but I know he struggled with that, and GZ would wreck said oil rig easy.

So in the end MoS cannot really beat 2014 GZ, which is the point of this match. He cannot pass GZ.

Superman couldn't even fly at that point, he wasn't at his full potential.

Originally posted by CadenceV2
Navy captain never said Castle Bravo in any sentence when making the coments of kilotons to Mega tons. Fact.

The movie clearly stated by the scientist Godzilla was hit by various nuclear test by America and Russia in 1954 which would possibly be in the Kilotons. Fact.

Scientist who know all about Godzilla stated modern nukes would not work because they tried it before, which they did with CB nuke test. Navy captain who has no expert knowledge on GZ stated nukes back then were KT and not MT. Fact.

Nothing is contradicted in the comic to the movie and further more the comic is stated as "official" prequel to the movie regardless by Legendary and the GZ 2014 screen writer.

You guys need a new argument, relying on a clearly out of context quote of a unreliable stand in character is poor argument when your opinions are easy countered by the Above facts from the dialog from the movie

Okay, no. Stop trying to make it out like Godzilla was hit with a megaton nuke, it was directly stated that he took an atom bomb in the kiloton range. The end. Your comics are irrelevant, and can't be used in a discussion about the movie.

Also, Godzilla was nearly KOed by a collapsing building, which is nothing compared to Superman's strength. Hell, he can just stay in the air pelt him with heat vision and there's nothing Godzilla can do about it.

MoS fans there is just no way they can accpet the new movie Superman is nowhere near as powerful as the past one.

Originally posted by CadenceV2
MoS fans there is just no way they can accpet the new movie Superman is nowhere near as powerful as the past one.

1. No one said current superman is as strong as the old one.

2. You've been caught on your bull shit and you can't even come up with a proper response.

3. This is a movie battle not a comic battle. Learn the difference.

4. You want to go around and call everyone fanboys whem everyone is trying to have a debate and you just keep wanting to use comics.

If that's the case we can use superman comics.

Sound like a plan?

Originally posted by CadenceV2
MoS fans there is just no way they can accpet the new movie Superman is nowhere near as powerful as the past one.

Just admit you can't come up with a proper response. I don't even like MoS all that much, he's just more powerful than Godzilla, get over it.

Originally posted by Stanor
1. No one said current superman is as strong as the old one.

2. You've been caught on your bull shit and you can't even come up with a proper response.

3. This is a movie battle not a comic battle. Learn the difference.

4. You want to go around and call everyone fanboys whem everyone is trying to have a debate and you just keep wanting to use comics.

If that's the case we can use superman comics.

Sound like a plan?


I don't think he wants to go there. LOL.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Stops at Hulk.

You couldn't be any dumber even if you wanted to.......... on a second thought.....