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So recently finished watching the Netflix Daredevil series (quite enjoyed it, would recommend it to any Marvel fan who prefers more brutal action), and was wondering how he would stack up against Bane. He is quite skilled as a fighter, and is very fast, acrobatic and agile, with insane damage soak, where as Bane is an all out tank. So speed VS strength.

Round 1: H2H, Daredevil has his final suit.

Roudn 2: Daredevil also gets his billy club. Bane's mask weakness is removed.

Fight takes place in the spot where Baleman got his back broken. Given Daredevil's senses, the darkness wouldn't give Bane any kind of advantage.

Fight to KO

Who wins?

id say Bane in both, Daredevil got his ass kicked by lowly street thugs constantly while Bane gave Batman a sound ass whoopin

Can you please not try and lowball a Marvel character for once? At no point did he get his ass kicked by lowly street thugs. All the people he fought and actually had any serious trouble with were professionals who, based on their physical displays, were actually skilled as well. Guys like Nobu would have sliced Batman or Bane's slow asses to ribbons in a very short amount of time. Matt has multiple showings of taking out groups of armed thugs with ease. Melvyn gave him trouble because he was still in bad shape when he encountered him. He is also a lot faster and more agile than either Batman or Bane. They'd struggle to land a hit.

How are any of these guys lowly thugs?

Fight with Nobu. He was getting the measure of him in h2h further on, but Nobu's weapon proved to be a brutal advantage:

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His fight with Stick, they guy who trained him when he was a kid and is a master assassin and fighter himself:

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His fight with Healy, who was a professional killer who wrecked multiple guys at once in an earlier showing:

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His two fights with Fisk. First one is more a damage soak feat, as this is right after Nobu. TO NOTE: The dialogue in these two, especially the final fight, might spoil some things in the show for people. So if anyone plans on watching it, I'd suggest skipping the 2nd fight here especially:

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Second one he has his final suit:

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Those were the people who gave him trouble.

Here is an example of him versus lowly thugs, and he wasn't even at 100% IIRC:

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I'd root for hornhead all day.

But I'd think Bane is the probably victor. His punches can destroy cement. DD ultimately won his fight with Kingpin, but not with any sort of ease. And I'd put Bane > Kingpin.

If his senses could pick up the breathing apparatus and he went straight for that, he could take the first round potentially.

Bane and Kingpin are about the same for me. I definitely give this to Daredevil. Daredevil skill level looks much higher than that of the Batman that Bane fought.

Originally posted by Kotor3
Bane and Kingpin are about the same for me. I definitely give this to Daredevil. Daredevil skill level looks much higher than that of the Batman that Bane fought.

What is it that has you put Bane and Kingpin as the "same?"

Bane decimated Batman before Bruce had the bright idea to hit him in his face-crab.

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Daredevil has the slight edge

I'd say Daredevil. Bane has the strength edge, but DD has skill, speed and agility and could pick up on Bane's breathing apparatus and damage it.

Daredevil was still injured when he fought Kingpin btw.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I'd say Daredevil. Bane has the strength edge, but DD has skill, speed and agility and could pick up on Bane's breathing apparatus and damage it.

Daredevil was still injured when he fought Kingpin btw.

And what of round 2 with the breathing apparatus weakness removed?

Originally posted by Quincy
And what of round 2 with the breathing apparatus weakness removed?

Matt dances around him then cracks him in the temple with his Billy club.

Bane is so slow Matt would have to stand there to get hit if he's at 100%.

Daredevil gets hit. Like, a lot. It's one of the things that made the show so good. How real the fights were.

So in fights with mobsters and thugs, he gets hit.

None of these guys have the punching strength to destroy cement pillars.

Watch Bane fight - the speed of his punches is incredible - it's a testament to Tom Hardy really. The dude is a beast.

PS I hate that I have to be the one arguing against DD.

And the guys who hit him ate either high end street level assassins or in big groups and Matt is injured. This is him at 100%. He can ricochet his club into Bane's skull, a trick he used more than once.

Bane is just super slow in comparison to even the thugs Matt fought.

DD routinely struggled with street thugs. Bane took on Batman who effortlessly takes down thugs.

Bane takes Round 1.

In round 2, DD has a chance via a ricochet. Otherwise, Bane.

Originally posted by ares834
DD routinely struggled with street thugs. Bane took on Batman who effortlessly takes down thugs.

Please post these showings where he "routinely struggled with street thugs", because I have posted clips of him treating random thugs like a joke, even when not at 100% (he also cleared an entire team of trained, armed men in seconds when he rescues Hoffman), not to mention all the times he has easily beaten info out of thugs, corrupt police officers etc. I also showed clips of the people he actually had trouble with. None of them are street thugs. Closest to a street thug was Healy, and we know that he is a professional and more than competent at what he does, based on his other showings.

So how about people stop the lowballing here, because the proof of his abilities, the calibre of his main opponents, and how easily he handles random thugs, has already been posted in this thread.

He did so in the best fight in the whole series.

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Comparatively, Batman takes on like a dozen thugs and defeats them in under 30 seconds.

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Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
So how about people stop the lowballing here, because the proof of his abilities, the calibre of his main opponents, and how easily he handles random thugs, has already been posted in this thread.

Relax.

Daredevil - when fighting these thugs - gets punched. He gets kicked. He gets beat up.

He wins, sure. No one is arguing that he wins fights against the thugs. But he gets injured. And it takes a toll on him.

None of the thugs that punch Daredevil have the strength to destroy cement.

So...if a trained Assassin Mercenary Ninja who has the strength to punch through cement punches him...that's...that's a tough thing to come back from.

As well, let's say DD utilizes the dark. It doesn't help considering Bane can see in the dark...

Originally posted by ares834
He did so in the best fight in the whole series.

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Comparatively, Batman takes on like a dozen thugs and defeats them in under 30 seconds.

ZmdWPv5R_J8 Daredevil was literally half dead that scene, and was in a small confined hallway. Also, I don't think thats a dozen thugs. 8 maybe. Its kind of hard to tell with the way their cutting, but that can be anywhere between 6-10.

Matt had a similar scene to Bats stealthing around taking out every thug from the shadows though, and he did it without tech and armor in a minute (not counting the hostage, though he handled that well). Nothing but skills and senses.

Daredevil also had that scene where he flipped through automatic fire. Even if you argue that it was aim dodging, that's damn impressive.

He takes Bane.

Hasnt there been threads in the past pitting Jason statham movie characters vs baleman and bane before?
Jason statham movie characters always win against those 2.
I havent finished the DD series yet , but from what I seen netflix daredevil is in the same category as the statham movie characters in skill, speed, agility and fighting style.
I dont see why he cant win against bane or baleman.
Daredevil also fights dirty. He has no problem breaking arms and legs, etc.
If this is a fresh DD vs bane , i can see DD taking it.
So far in the series its never a "fresh" DD. He is always recovering from his wounds from previous fights.
Before baleman exploited the mask weakness, he was getting his fair shots at bane. tagging bane with punches. And baleman isnt that great of a fighter (in the nolanverse).

Bane wins, quite easily too

DD seems to get hit and hurt a lot more easily than The Transporter though. Plus he doesn't seem to have the same knockout power.

DD with his billy club should win against Bane. Without it... then it's tough to call. Bane is slow and should have a hard time hitting DD. On the other hand, DD isn't so fast that he can't get hit, and it takes him quite a while before he gets to KO the average thug.

He didnt have any trouble ko'ing the thugs in the garage scene.
But i havent finished the series yet so there is most likely other feats i havent seen yet. Ill probably post again when I finish the series.

Several times he drops guys in the span of seconds. Especially when he's not on deaths door.

He's pretty inconsistent. Sometimes it takes him multiple hits to KO the average thug... like his fight scene in the very first episode.

Originally posted by ares834
He did so in the best fight in the whole series.

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Comparatively, Batman takes on like a dozen thugs and defeats them in under 30 seconds.

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That's probably his lowest showing in terms of actually struggling with fodder, and he was still in very bad shape at the time. Where as that clip of Bats is one of his highest end showings (and Matt has cleared groups of armed guys with ease before too, so not the best example).

So you're using one lower showing and exaggerating it into a statement about his general performance (when he has several that contradict this), while ignoring his other superior feats, which are on par to Batman's high showings. Yet at the same time, using high end prime Batman feats to argue for Bane (not even the version Bane encountered).

Honestly, it's no better than someone supporting Daredevil by saying that Matt wins, because he beat a number of skilled opponents, and Batman had trouble with the Joker and a pair of dogs. It's lowballing and not the way to debate characters fairly. If we are using consistent and high end showings for one, we have to do the same for the other one.

Originally posted by Quincy
Relax.

Daredevil - when fighting these thugs - gets punched. He gets kicked. He gets beat up.

He wins, sure. No one is arguing that he wins fights against the thugs. But he gets injured. And it takes a toll on him.

None of the thugs that punch Daredevil have the strength to destroy cement.

So...if a trained Assassin Mercenary Ninja who has the strength to punch through cement punches him...that's...that's a tough thing to come back from.

As well, let's say DD utilizes the dark. It doesn't help considering Bane can see in the dark...

You clearly missed the point of my post. Using low end showings for one person while using high end showings for another is not being objective. And no, he might take a couple of blows here or there, and some might provide minor resistance, when fighting just random thugs, but he virtually always comes out on top, very little the worse for wear. It's his fights with guys like Nobu, Stick, Healy etc. where he generally takes noticeable damage and needs some medical attention. And these guys are not just random thugs, no matter how many times people try and repeat it.

Not to mention ALL of those showings except his final fight with Fisk is without the armour I allowed in this match. So remember to take the added protection and durability it would afford him into consideration as well.

Also, with Matt's senses he will definitely be able to pick up Bane's breathing problems. Fisk might not have made a dent in a pillar, but he is also extremely strong, and can casually toss someone like Daredevil the width of an alleyway. The guy can hear bones shifting inside someone's body and could even tell when Foggy was about to speak by subtle changes in his breathing pattern. So he would definitely take round 1 IMO.

That's really the only time we see DD take on a group of goons in a straight up fight like that. Batman, however, consistently does it with ease. Like when he takes down half a dozen or so men after his return in TDKR.

Hell, Batman has a far easier time taking on those four LoS Ninjas in Begins.

Originally posted by ares834
That's really the only time we see DD take on a group of goons in a straight up fight like that. Batman, however, consistently does it with ease. Like when he takes down half a dozen or so men after his return in TDKR.

Hell, Batman has a far easier time taking on those four LoS Ninjas in Begins.

To be fair, in majority of DD's fights he's almost always in constant injury. So he's not exactly tip top shape.

Yeah, and for this match it's 100% fully fit DD, with the suit that provides him added protection. So not a Matt covered in stab wounds, bruises and other injuries, who is exhausted, and fighting in black plain clothes.

DD wins

He was strong enough to outright throw Kingpin during their final fight, fast and agile enough to dodge gunfire, durable enough to beat down numerous guys while suffering massive injuries, has the speed, agility, and stamina to keep up with a car using parkour, took on and survived his fight with Nobu, who shown way better combat skills than Bane ever has, and has enhanced senses which will immediately allow him to pinpoint Bane's breathing problem. Bane being "born and raised in the darkness" doesn't have shit on Matt's adaptation to his blindness.

Originally posted by Lestov16
DD wins

He was strong enough to outright throw Kingpin during their final fight, fast and agile enough to dodge gunfire, durable enough to beat down numerous guys while suffering massive injuries, has the speed, agility, and stamina to keep up with a car using parkour, took on and survived his fight with Nobu, who shown way better combat skills than Bane ever has, and has enhanced senses which will immediately allow him to pinpoint Bane's breathing problem. Bane being "born and raised in the darkness" doesn't have shit on Matt's adaptation to his blindness. /thread

Well said.

Sounds like this show is worth watching, Ill give it a go tonight.

Bane.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Sounds like this show is worth watching, Ill give it a go tonight.

Probably the best content the MCU (and possibly Netflix) has produced. I got 3 hours of sleep binge-watching the whole season and I only started the pilot out of boredom.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Bane.

No.