TheVaultDweller
A friend and I were discussing this and thought this would be an interesting fight. A big factor in Ant-man's effectiveness is being virtually invisible to the naked eye, but Matt doesn't use his eyes to see.
- Fight takes place in the building where Daredevil fought Nobu.
- Hand to hand (so no throwing discs for Scott, no billy clubs for Matt, but both wearing their suits. Also no sub-atomic Scott, not like it would do much good in this thread.)
- Win via KO
So who wins this? The second Ant-Man? Or the Devil of Hell's Kitchen?
And before the Daredevil lowballers come out again with their "Matt constantly gets beaten up by random thugs" nonsense, that never happens. The closest to Matt getting "beaten up" on screen, by random people, is during the hallway fight, and they only started landing hits later when he was tiring out (and he was already at a disadvantage fighting multiple people in a confined space, where he couldn't utilize his acrobatics and agility to their full effect). And even then he won. And that's not even considering he entered that fight already exhausted, with multiple broken ribs, lacerations, a deep stab wound (and internal bleeding), and a concussion (all according to the night nurse who patched him up).
I am personally leaning towards Ant-Man though, right now. I think Matt's senses will be able to follow him, but he is still going to have trouble tagging Lang while he is in shrink mode. Matt is extremely fast however (reacts to arrows in mid flight, aim-dodges automatic fire etc.) so will be interesting to see if he can react to a tiny opponent. One thing that might pose a serious problem for Scott is Matt's utterly insane damage soak. Overall though, I think Scott should still hold enough of an advantage to win.
- Fight takes place in the building where Daredevil fought Nobu.
- Hand to hand (so no throwing discs for Scott, no billy clubs for Matt, but both wearing their suits. Also no sub-atomic Scott, not like it would do much good in this thread.)
- Win via KO
So who wins this? The second Ant-Man? Or the Devil of Hell's Kitchen?
And before the Daredevil lowballers come out again with their "Matt constantly gets beaten up by random thugs" nonsense, that never happens. The closest to Matt getting "beaten up" on screen, by random people, is during the hallway fight, and they only started landing hits later when he was tiring out (and he was already at a disadvantage fighting multiple people in a confined space, where he couldn't utilize his acrobatics and agility to their full effect). And even then he won. And that's not even considering he entered that fight already exhausted, with multiple broken ribs, lacerations, a deep stab wound (and internal bleeding), and a concussion (all according to the night nurse who patched him up).
I am personally leaning towards Ant-Man though, right now. I think Matt's senses will be able to follow him, but he is still going to have trouble tagging Lang while he is in shrink mode. Matt is extremely fast however (reacts to arrows in mid flight, aim-dodges automatic fire etc.) so will be interesting to see if he can react to a tiny opponent. One thing that might pose a serious problem for Scott is Matt's utterly insane damage soak. Overall though, I think Scott should still hold enough of an advantage to win.