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Battle takes place over Robtard's Male brothel

Surfer

Surfer's feats currently trump Vision's by some margin, so have to go with him.

Surfer was creating holes in the Earth...

With the mind gem he might beat Surfer.

Nah

Everything Vision did, Surfer did better.

The dude was putting holes in the earth, brought sue back to life, bent matter to his will, absorbed missiles and killed his boss and survived to tell about it.

Originally posted by carthage
Battle takes place over Robtard's Male brothel

Those whores shake their asses and pay my bills, yo.

But the fight can go either way:

Shown feats(what we typically use), Surfer

Implied power, Vision

Couldnt the mind gem be used to turn the whores against the surfer? What can they do to a eunuch?

Vision barely damaged Ultron with the Mind Gem even with help from Tony and Thor, Surfer would've shredded his molecules. Surfer easily.

Yet Reed was able to put a stop to Silver Surfer with a little prep so which was the weaker showing lack of power shown by Vision having trouble or Silver Surfer getting beaten by Reed Richards movie versions.

Surfer for then win.

Originally posted by golem370
Yet Reed was able to put a stop to Silver Surfer with a little prep so which was the weaker showing lack of power shown by Vision having trouble or Silver Surfer getting beaten by Reed Richards movie versions.

This is not a good argument. Reed and Doom together spent days building a device that specifically targeted the Surfer's weakness, after they had multiple encounters with him that ended badly for them, and had extensive time to study him. And your phrasing makes it sound like Reed beat him in combat one-on-one, which is not even remotely the case. His actual applicable feats > Vision's. Fact. So based on feats, he wins.

Originally posted by Robtard
Shown feats(what we typically use), Surfer

Implied power, Vision

Am I the only one that thinks Surfer beats Vision down regardless of the gem?

It isn't even clearly known if vision can even use the gem properly. Or tap into its power. The thing vision did to cut off Ultron from the net had nothing to do with the gems power imo.

That was Jarvis pretty much. And thats pretty much the same readon i say vision loses. He was basicallly a newborn in the movie.

Originally posted by golem370
Yet Reed was able to put a stop to Silver Surfer with a little prep so which was the weaker showing lack of power shown by Vision having trouble or Silver Surfer getting beaten by Reed Richards movie versions.

So in your mind this makes Surfer look weak instead of making movie Reed look smart?

You realize you say Vision just had a lack of power and yet you feel that multiple super geniuses working together after having had ample time to study Surfer and figuring out his specific weakness to neutralize him is worse then a supposed mere lack of power?

This is like saying movie Magneto is weak because William Stryker built a prison made out of plastic and Magneto required outside help to escape.

I say that with this mind gem would give him a the smarts and power to defeat SS smarts at the level of Reed and Doom plus strength intangibility flight. I think their showing against SS was pure pis has is power from the board.

Originally posted by golem370
I say that with this mind gem would give him a the smarts and power to defeat SS smarts at the level of Reed and Doom plus strength intangibility flight. I think their showing against SS was pure pis has is power from the board.

Was the mind gem ever shown to increase the intelligence of the wearer?

Originally posted by golem370
I say that with this mind gem would give him a the smarts and power to defeat SS smarts at the level of Reed and Doom

Then go ahead and prove it. Surfer has interstellar flight capabilities and intangibility powers of his own, so not seeing how that gives Vision any kind of advantage.