Thor vs Hulk

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Time-Immemorial
Bloodlusted Hulk

Vs

Thor

Thor gets his hammer, but no city busting strikes.

Thor cannot fly here

Who wins the majority.

juggerman
If Thor can't fly then Hulk has a much better chance. Still don't think he can take a majority but he might not get shut out now

Tattoos N Scars
Hulk wins. It will turn into brawl, then Hulk ragdolls him. Hulk was already beating his ass in first Avengers movie.

Time-Immemorial
What if Thor gets his hammer on him like he did Loki?

Silent Master
Why do people always forget that Thor was trying to reason with and then subdue the Hulk in that fight, rather than hurt/injure him?

TheVaultDweller
Because "we are not your enemies" is actually secret code for "I am gonna kill you motherf******". Seemed pretty obvious that Thor was mostly just trying to stop the Hulk from wrecking everything else, so tried to keep his attention on him. Of course, the dumbass pilot thought he could tag in for Thor, and it did not go as planned. Well, guess it kind of did, because it took the Hulk out of the picture, but now they have to replace the jet.

Arachnid1
Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Hulk wins. It will turn into brawl, then Hulk ragdolls him. Hulk was already beating his ass in first Avengers movie. Thor put out way more damage that fight. Besides one punch to a holding back Thor that gave him a nose bleed and holding him in the air at the end, Hulk did literally nothing. Thor, on the other hand, was dodging, weaving, and punching hard enough to send Hulk twisting. It was also CIS that he didn't use the hammer the entire fight. The one blow he had with it sent Hulk across the room and almost KOed him. A follow up swing or two would have had him down and out, but Thor opted for just trying to choke him out. That fight went to Thor pretty handily, and that was him holding back. Could you imagine if he used his hammer here or lightning blasts?

Thor 9/10

Originally posted by Silent Master
Why do people always forget that Thor was trying to reason with and then subdue the Hulk in that fight, rather than hurt/injure him? This

And even if you forget that Thor was holding back, he still put in way more work that fight

Darth Thor
Oohh pretty tought fight for Thor without him being able to fly tbh. Seen as we've not seen the kind of distances and speeds he can leap without flight.

But he can still dish out Lightning and Tornadoes backed by Mjolnir strikes, and he can still evade Hulk's punches.

I'm gonna say... Split.

FrothByte
I've always wondered why they don't show Asgardians leaping about. Anyone strong enough to easily push around cars should be able to jump pretty high.

Tattoos N Scars
I didn't see Thor go all out on Kurse either and Thor lost that fight. Thor was in an ideal place to fight him too. I think Hulk could've deflected the hammer throw as easily as Kurse did if he didn't try to catch it.

I agree Thor could win an all out fight, but I feel Thor will end up brawling withHulk instead. If so, Thor has not shown he in Hulk's strength class.

TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by FrothByte
I've always wondered why they don't show Asgardians leaping about. Anyone strong enough to easily push around cars should be able to jump pretty high.

We see Loki take quite a leap at the beginning of Avengers though, and he is about on the same level as the regular Asgardians.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
I didn't see Thor go all out on Kurse either and Thor lost that fight. Thor was in an ideal place to fight him too. I think Hulk could've deflected the hammer throw as easily as Kurse did if he didn't try to catch it.

I agree Thor could win an all out fight, but I feel Thor will end up brawling withHulk instead. If so, Thor has not shown he in Hulk's strength class.

Hulk is not Kurse. Even before his transformation, Algrim was already millennia old and an accomplished warrior. He is not the brute that Hulk is. Plus, the ease with which he demolishes other Asgardians and beat up Thor pretty much shows that he's above Hulk.

Nibedicus
Yeah, Kurse pretty much out-skilled and out-smarted Thor as well as overpowered him that fight. Surprised him, kept the hammer away, kept Thor off balance and overwhelmed, then ground and pounded when Thor was down.

While Thor was pretty evidently shown as a better fighter than Hulk in their exchange.

FrothByte
Not to mention that Kurse didn't even seem to feel Thor's punches, whereas Hulk turns a whole 360 when Thor punched him.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by FrothByte
Not to mention that Kurse didn't even seem to feel Thor's punches, whereas Hulk turns a whole 360 when Thor punched him.

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Robtard
After the last flick, have to go with Thor, after a long brutal battle.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by FrothByte
I've always wondered why they don't show Asgardians leaping about. Anyone strong enough to easily push around cars should be able to jump pretty high.

Prolly same reason we dont see Cap jumping 20 foot fences in a single bound. Its different type of strength.

I can squat 400lbs a few times but I can dunk a basketball and I train every day.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Robtard
After the last flick, have to go with Thor, after a long brutal battle. Hulk mauls him. Support your conclusion with evidence.

Robtard
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk mauls him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Support your conclusion with evidence.

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quanchi112
Originally posted by Robtard
thumb up Hulk's battle with Thor and Hulk's battle with the upgraded hulk buster Iron Man suit. Your turn.

Robtard
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk's battle with Thor and Hulk's battle with the upgraded hulk buster Iron Man suit. Your turn. Counter 1: Thor was holding back, as per his words and actions. He didn't want to harm Hulk (an ally) and he didn't want to bring down the helicarrier

Counter 2: Hulk was KO'd when he fought IM-HB.

Now that you've properly been bent over and "countered", here's the killing stoke:

-Thor surviving the massive Bi-Frost explosion at ground zero unharmed shows he durability towards great force

-Thor's superior H2H skills, he dodged and ducked some of Hulk's attacks. He's a trained warrior with possibly a few centuries of experience

-Thor's greater versatility, lighting and tornadoes attacks

-Thor having to be gimped here of a few abilities to even make this a fight

Wasn't even remotely hard, quanboy. LoL!

quanchi112
Originally posted by Robtard
Counter 1: Thor was holding back, as per his words and actions. He didn't want to harm Hulk (an ally) and he didn't want to bring down the helicarrier

Counter 2: Hulk was KO'd when he fought IM-HB.

Now that you've properly been bent over and "countered", here's the killing stoke.

-Thor surviving the massive Bi-Frost explosion at ground zero unharmed shows he durability towards great force

-Thor's superior H2H skills, he dodged and ducked some of Hulk's attacks. He's a trained warrior

-Thor's greater versatility, lighting and tornadoes attacks

-Thor having to be gimped here of a few abilities to even make this a fight

Wasn't even remotely hard, quanboy. LoL! Thor was losing. Prove him going all out would significantly matter here.

He tore through many different suits in a far superior IronMan than Thor fought. Did Thor tear through his inferior suit ?

What does that have to do with the Hulk ? We see the Hulk's attacks clearly hurt him. He punched him out later in the first film.



Versatility is nice but effectiveness is also greater than that.

You seem to distance yourself away from he portrayals of the characters as you try to bastardize your way through these characters.

Adam Grimes
Thor eats him.

Robtard
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor was losing. Prove him going all out would significantly matter here.

He tore through many different suits in a far superior IronMan than Thor fought. Did Thor tear through his inferior suit ?

What does that have to do with the Hulk ? We see the Hulk's attacks clearly hurt him. He punched him out later in the first film.

Versatility is nice but effectiveness is also greater than that.

You seem to distance yourself away from he portrayals of the characters as you try to bastardize your way through these characters.

That's not a counter What we do know is that Thor was holding back, otherwise those two going all out would have ruined the ship and killed people.

That's not a counter. Thor was holding back as to not kill IM.

That's not a counter. That's a red herring. Thor also wasn't "punched out".

That's not a counter: Versatility gives one an edge.

Now you're accusing me of something you're well own for: Downplaying who you need to see lose. You debate by not showing how your pick wins, but how shitty you imagine the opposition is. This is why you always fail.

So you didn't counter a single point of mine and tried to downplay Thor. In short, you lost again.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Thor eats him. Hulk is the beast of the team not Thor.

Tattoos N Scars
Thor could have been knocked out off screen for a few minutes. We don't really know.

juggerman
Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Thor could have been knocked out off screen for a few minutes. We don't really know.

Then we can't really use that as an argument since we don't know. But logic would dictate that he was awake before and after the cutaway and nothing was mentioned or hinted at him being KO'd so was can assume he wasn't

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk is the beast of the team not Thor. He would eat him anyway just to prove a point.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Robtard
That's not a counter What we do know is that Thor was holding back, otherwise those two going all out would have ruined the ship and killed people.

That's not a counter. Thor was holding back as to not kill IM.

That's not a counter. That's a red herring. Thor also wasn't "punched out".

That's not a counter: Versatility gives one an edge.

Now you're accusing me of something you're well own for: Downplaying who you need to see lose. You debate by not showing how your pick wins, but how shitty you imagine the opposition is. This is why you always fail.

So you didn't counter a single point of mine and tried to downplay Thor. In short, you lost again. Speculation. What we do know is the longer the fight went on the more it favored Hulk.,

Thor was trying to damage Ironman. He failed to do so.

Yes, he was.

Versatility doesn't overrule what's effective.

There are facts so downplaying is merely a word a troll like yourself would use in order to avoid certain facts.

The portrayals clearly favored the Hulk in direct comparison to Thor.

FrothByte
Thor fought IM at 400%. At the end of the fight, IM was damaged and Thor was completely unharmed.

Hulk fought an un-amped IM but one that had Hulkbuster. At the end of the fight, IM was damaged and Hulk was KOd

quanchi112
Originally posted by FrothByte
Thor fought IM at 400%. At the end of the fight, IM was damaged and Thor was completely unharmed.

Hulk fought an un-amped IM but one that had Hulkbuster. At the end of the fight, IM was damaged and Hulk was KOd Hulkbuster armor was obviously for Hulk. Hulk tore through it quite easily but Ironman had enough to eventually get the win over a troubled Hulk. Thor didn't tear through his armor which was obviously thinner and not specifically designed to combat Thor.

Do you believe that Ironman defeats the Hulkbuster Ironman ?

FrothByte
I believe that IM can't beat Hulk without his Hulkbuster armor but that Thor can also make short work of the Hulk Buster armor.

Rock, paper, scissors analogy.

Although the hulkbuster armor is more powerful than the armor that IM fought Thor with, it is also far slower and less agile. IM was already having a hard time landing hits on their fight, if it wasn't for his thrusters he probably wouldn't have landed any.

Thor will run circles around the Hulkbuster and Hulk can easily crush the armor that IM fought Thor with

quanchi112
Originally posted by FrothByte
I believe that IM can't beat Hulk without his Hulkbuster armor but that Thor can also make short work of the Hulk Buster armor.

Rock, paper, scissors analogy.

Although the hulkbuster armor is more powerful than the armor that IM fought Thor with, it is also far slower and less agile. IM was already having a hard time landing hits on their fight, if it wasn't for his thrusters he probably wouldn't have landed any.

Thor will run circles around the Hulkbuster and Hulk can easily crush the armor that IM fought Thor with I do not think so considering Hulk wasn't landing hits on Thor initially either but later started getting the better of him.

Before the fighter jet got involved Hulk was winning. Abc logic not withstanding and the fact the two Ironman suits were different I'd say the evidence directly supports my take on this.

Time-Immemorial
Hulk has the strength to put Thor down, the hammer makes the fight questionable.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Thor could have been knocked out off screen for a few minutes. We don't really know.

Just like Thor could have ko'd the Hulk 18,000 times off screen between all the MCU movies?

Time-Immemorial
SM you think Thor could have stopped the LV like Hulk did with just his fist?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Silent Master
Just like Thor could have ko'd the Hulk 18,000 times off screen between all the MCU movies? Be serious.

Tattoos N Scars
Originally posted by quanchi112
I do not think so considering Hulk wasn't landing hits on Thor initially either but later started getting the better of him.

Before the fighter jet got involved Hulk was winning. Abc logic not withstanding and the fact the two Ironman suits were different I'd say the evidence directly supports my take on this.


I actually agree with Quan for a change!

FrothByte
Originally posted by quanchi112
I do not think so considering Hulk wasn't landing hits on Thor initially either but later started getting the better of him.

Before the fighter jet got involved Hulk was winning. Abc logic not withstanding and the fact the two Ironman suits were different I'd say the evidence directly supports my take on this.

Let's be honest here. Hulk landed only 3 clean hits on Thor. The only one that actually hurt Thor was a sucker punch. The other two Hulk was only able to land because Thor decided to try an restrain Hulk (choke hold) as compared to just another Mjolnir smash which would have been far easier.

Just because the fight was interrupted while Hulk had the upper hand does not mean he was winning the fight. If the fight had been interrupted when Thor kneed Hulk would you then say Thor was winning?

Fact is, there was no clear winner of that fight since both combatants were not seriously hurt. Had the fight continued another few minutes we don't know who would have come on top (considering of cours that Thor stuck to pure melee).

The Sorrow
Hulk wins.

Absolutely stomped Thors main rogue, wrecked Ultron beyond repair when he got pissed, significantly more durable and stronger than Thor plus the gap will only widen as the fight goes on. He took dozens of punches to the face from Hulkbuster which was initially as strong as he was with no visible damage, that's insane. Tbh he's been virtually unstoppable up to this point (suckerpunches not withstanding).

Inhuman
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Absolutely stomped Thors main rogue

Just to chime in smile

You mean Loki? Thor never wanted to kill Loki. After Loki stabbed him while Thor was STILL trying to reason with Loki, Thor kicked & slammed Loki on the ground and Loki got the hell out of dodge after realizing Thor got serious.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
wrecked Ultron beyond repair when he got pissed

Thor, Vision & Tony combined Attacks wrecked Ultron. Hulk just threw him out the plane.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
He would eat him anyway just to prove a point. Fanboyism at its finest.

quanchi112
Originally posted by FrothByte
Let's be honest here. Hulk landed only 3 clean hits on Thor. The only one that actually hurt Thor was a sucker punch. The other two Hulk was only able to land because Thor decided to try an restrain Hulk (choke hold) as compared to just another Mjolnir smash which would have been far easier.

Just because the fight was interrupted while Hulk had the upper hand does not mean he was winning the fight. If the fight had been interrupted when Thor kneed Hulk would you then say Thor was winning?

Fact is, there was no clear winner of that fight since both combatants were not seriously hurt. Had the fight continued another few minutes we don't know who would have come on top (considering of cours that Thor stuck to pure melee). I am always honest. Thor got his fair share of clean hits but the hits Hulk got on Thor seemed to be more significant than Thor's attacks.

The presentation was clear that Thor needed to avoid the Hulk while the Hulk could take Thor's shots.


I agree we don't know what would have happened but it ended with Hulk clearly having the upper hand.

FrothByte
Originally posted by quanchi112
I am always honest. Thor got his fair share of clean hits but the hits Hulk got on Thor seemed to be more significant than Thor's attacks.

The presentation was clear that Thor needed to avoid the Hulk while the Hulk could take Thor's shots.


I agree we don't know what would have happened but it ended with Hulk clearly having the upper hand.

Hulk's sucker punch hurt Thor about as much as Thor's Mjolnir uppercut hurt Hulk. All the other hits, slamming Thor, Hulk getting kneed in the face, etc... they hurt the combatants but not significantly. After all, Thor easily got back up after he was thrown against the wall.

The Sorrow
Originally posted by Inhuman
Just to chime in smile

You mean Loki? Thor never wanted to kill Loki. After Loki stabbed him while Thor was STILL trying to reason with Loki, Thor kicked & slammed Loki on the ground and Loki got the hell out of dodge after realizing Thor got serious.



Thor, Vision & Tony combined Attacks wrecked Ultron. Hulk just threw him out the plane.
Neither was Hulk bloodlusted so that's not an excuse, Hulk casually stomped him far easier than Thor ever did and that's indisputable. Even disrespected him with "puny" comment just for lulz, Loki was no threat to him whatsoever.

Ultron was still dangerous and the combined attack on him seemed to cause superficial damage more than anything. Hulk wrecked him to point he couldn't even move.

FrothByte
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Neither was Hulk bloodlusted so that's not an excuse, Hulk casually stomped him far easier than Thor ever did and that's indisputable. Even disrespected him with "puny" comment just for lulz, Loki was no threat to him whatsoever.

Ultron was still dangerous and the combined attack on him seemed to cause superficial damage more than anything. Hulk wrecked him to point he couldn't even move.

Difference is Loki wasn't trying to fight Hulk, Hulk got the drop on him. Loki was however, fully fighting Thor.

Inhuman
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Ultron was still dangerous and the combined attack on him seemed to cause superficial damage more than anything. Hulk wrecked him to point he couldn't even move.

The combined attack from those 3 is what left Ultron in bad shape. Why do you think he needed a jet to escape? Because in the shape he was in he couldn't escape under his own power.
Im not saying that the force that Hulk threw Ultron and the impact into that train didnt do damage to Ultron , But ultron already was trashed by the tri-attack before that.
Off screen speculations are not valid.

quanchi112
Originally posted by FrothByte
Hulk's sucker punch hurt Thor about as much as Thor's Mjolnir uppercut hurt Hulk. All the other hits, slamming Thor, Hulk getting kneed in the face, etc... they hurt the combatants but not significantly. After all, Thor easily got back up after he was thrown against the wall. Hulk was able to gain the upper hand on his own and looked to be superior by fights end. Thor wasn't on deaths door but the portrayal has always been clear. Hulk is the badass on the team.

The Sorrow
Originally posted by Inhuman
The combined attack from those 3 is what left Ultron in bad shape. Why do you think he needed a jet to escape? Because in the shape he was in he couldn't escape under his own power.
Im not saying that the force that Hulk threw Ultron and the impact into that train didnt do damage to Ultron , But ultron already was trashed by the tri-attack before that.
Off screen speculations are not valid.
Not sure I agree with that, iirc he was still flying after that tri attack and Hulks first punch. Imo he tried to escape in the jet because he was fighting a losing battle and was running out of fodder soldiers, plus I don't recall Ultron ever flying at mach speeds like the jet would've been able to. Not saying he was at 100% before Hulk got his hands on him but he certainly wasn't anywhere near as damaged as he was when he landed.

Thor has back and forth fights with people Hulk would stomp (Ultron, Loki, Iron Man).

FrothByte
Lol. Are you really saying that Hulk beating a half dead Ultron and getting the jump on a monologuing Loki is proof that he's better than Thor?

Silent Master
Gotta love Hulk fanboys.

Time-Immemorial
laughing out loud

Khazra Reborn
Thor crushes him no problem, their feats are barely comparable at this point.

carthage
Doomsday nukes hoth of them

GG

The Sorrow
Originally posted by FrothByte
Lol. Are you really saying that Hulk beating a half dead Ultron and getting the jump on a monologuing Loki is proof that he's better than Thor?
Definitive proof? No, but the excuses as to why the comparisons aren't relevant here are hilarious. In another script Loki was going to use magic to create copies of himself to try and trick Hulk but Hulk was going to use his nose to find the real Loki and rag doll him like in the final cut we saw. Either way the end was inevitable, Hulk stomping Loki like the non factor he is. Can Thor beat Loki? Yes he already has, but as easy as Hulk did? Hell no.

Ultron would've been stomped wether he was at 10% or 100% let's be real here, and that's more than likely why he was shown fighting every superpowered member of the Avengers except for Hulk.

Darth Thor
Oh jeez still the "Hulk beat unarmed Loki easier than Thor ever handled him"

Thor outright told Loki in TDW that he always held back on him because he was his brother. Hulk (bloodlusted or not) never had any such attachment to Loki.

The Sorrow
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Oh jeez still the "Hulk beat unarmed Loki easier than Thor ever handled him"

Thor outright told Loki in TDW that he always held back on him because he was his brother. Hulk (bloodlusted or not) never had any such attachment to Loki.
Holding back or not, Thor still tried to put Loki down and never did as emphatically as Hulk. There's just no way of getting around that. Taking flight away hurts Thor a lot, this fight will basically be a brawl which is what Hulk does best.

If indeed Hulk is going to be in Thor 3 I would expect them to have a rematch, then (hopefully) we get to really see them cut loose on each other.

Time-Immemorial
What exactly could Thor do to Loki, not holding back?

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
What exactly could Thor do to Loki, not holding back?


Same thing Hulk did probably.

Time-Immemorial
We never seen that type of fighting from Thor, I doubt he could rag doll him, He would need to use him hammer to stop him, thats just the way his powers work. Which is fine isn't it?

EmperorSidious2
Thor

Silent Master
Thor is more than strong enough to swing around Loki's weight, so DT is right, Thor is physically capable of replicating Hulk's attack. However swinging people around isn't really his style.

So while Thor could ragdoll Loki, he isn't likely to try.

Darth Thor
^ Agreed. He'd be more likely to smack Loki down with Mjolnir.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
We never seen that type of fighting from Thor, I doubt he could rag doll him, He would need to use him hammer to stop him, thats just the way his powers work. Which is fine isn't it?

Literally just said that.

Silent Master
I know it's a semantic argument, but you said that you doubted that he could, what you seem to have meant is that you doubt he would.

Time-Immemorial
I just dont see that type of feat, but we agree he will use the hammer. I asked you earlier if you thought Thor could stop the LV the way hulk did with just his fist, but I never heard back from you. I was trying to gauge where you thought his dynamic strength was.

Silent Master
I think the Hulk is stronger, but that Thor can cause far more damage with a charged hammer strike.

That said, ragdolling a couple hundred pounds doesn't really take that much strength. hell, these days Cap could likely ragdoll someone that heavy.

Time-Immemorial
Coolthumb up

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk was able to gain the upper hand on his own and looked to be superior by fights end. Thor wasn't on deaths door but the portrayal has always been clear. Hulk is the badass on the team. Originally posted by quanchi112
Fanboyism at its finest.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
So you can't grasp a film. I always kind of sensed your intellectual learning disabilities but this definitely confirms them.

CPT Space Bomb
Movie Thor's Resume:

Thor 1 - Thor (when he was Thor) was pretty much unstoppable. Probably his best showing from physical standpoint. He also fairly easily defeated The Destroyer Armor (while showing his versatility in the process).

Thor 2- Not a great showing for Thor, though he did survive an ugly beatdown from Kurse, and also endured Malekith's aether energy storm around him.

Avengers 1 - Thor again was dumbed/powered way down here, but still was impressive. He tried reasoning with Hulk and stalemated him long enough for the pilot to take the aggro (thus getting hulk off the hellicarrier). He also fought an amped 400% power Iron man and took 0 damage basically. He showed off how powerful his lightning could be as well by destroying a fleet of Chutari with one attack.

Avengers 2- One of Thor's best feats. He destroys the entire Sokovia meteor with one charged attack, obliterating it to save the planet. He is also the one Avenger that Ultron knew he had to single out and take by himself.

Now Movie Hulk:

Avengers 1: A mindless Hulk fights Thor and is slightly winning; though Thor was obviously holding back and trying to reason with Hulk. Hulk is also rampaging at the end of the movie and being physically dominant against Chutari and Loki alike.

Avengers 2: Again a mindless version of Hulk loses to Iron Man. Granted Iron man had "Veronica" (Hulkbuster) armor on, but it's still a bad showing for Hulk. Hulk should have won but the power of RDJ is too great. Hulk does look impressive the rest of the movie however.


THE VERDICT: Thor, as usual; if he tries to just punch Hulk to submission he's going to lose. IF, however, he uses his abilities he will win every time. That being said, Thor loves fisticuffs so I'm going to give them about a 50/50, or slight edge to Thor based on the fact his high end feats are higher.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you can't grasp a film. I always kind of sensed your intellectual learning disabilities but this definitely confirms them. Do you ever get tired of being wrong, quanbuddy?

juggerman
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Movie Thor's Resume:

Thor 1 - Thor (when he was Thor) was pretty much unstoppable. Probably his best showing from physical standpoint. He also fairly easily defeated The Destroyer Armor (while showing his versatility in the process).

Thor 2- Not a great showing for Thor, though he did survive an ugly beatdown from Kurse, and also endured Malekith's aether energy storm around him.

Avengers 1 - Thor again was dumbed/powered way down here, but still was impressive. He tried reasoning with Hulk and stalemated him long enough for the pilot to take the aggro (thus getting hulk off the hellicarrier). He also fought an amped 400% power Iron man and took 0 damage basically. He showed off how powerful his lightning could be as well by destroying a fleet of Chutari with one attack.

Avengers 2- One of Thor's best feats. He destroys the entire Sokovia meteor with one charged attack, obliterating it to save the planet. He is also the one Avenger that Ultron knew he had to single out and take by himself.

Now Movie Hulk:

Avengers 1: A mindless Hulk fights Thor and is slightly winning; though Thor was obviously holding back and trying to reason with Hulk. Hulk is also rampaging at the end of the movie and being physically dominant against Chutari and Loki alike.

Avengers 2: Again a mindless version of Hulk loses to Iron Man. Granted Iron man had "Veronica" (Hulkbuster) armor on, but it's still a bad showing for Hulk. Hulk should have won but the power of RDJ is too great. Hulk does look impressive the rest of the movie however.


THE VERDICT: Thor, as usual; if he tries to just punch Hulk to submission he's going to lose. IF, however, he uses his abilities he will win every time. That being said, Thor loves fisticuffs so I'm going to give them about a 50/50, or slight edge to Thor based on the fact his high end feats are higher.

You left out Hulk's solo film

CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by juggerman
You left out Hulk's solo film You're right..I always forget that's a Marvel Studios movie laughing

In any case, it's not a great showing for Hulk; but it really doesn't hurt his resume too much either..

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Do you ever get tired of being wrong, quanbuddy? Why do you always like to say ridiculous things. I won't like you either way.

Adam Grimes
You're quite ridiculous yourself, though.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
You're quite ridiculous yourself, though. I back up my claims while you say Thor eats him. No one takes you seriously.

Adam Grimes
If you're done with your goofy posturing, how does Hulk win then?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
If you're done with your goofy posturing, how does Hulk win then? Beating the shit out of him. If you'll recall when they fought he had the upper hand when the fighter jet started shooting the Hulk.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
Beating the shit out of him. If you'll recall when they fought he had the upper hand when the fighter jet started shooting the Hulk. Thor was trying to calm him down.

KuRuPT Thanosi
If Thor engages the Hulk in h2h... I think he'll eventually go down. If Thor plays it smart he'll take a majority. It's that simple for me.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Thor was trying to calm him down. He was fighting him with his hammer. smile. He was still losing.

CPT Space Bomb
Again, if Thor uses his more powerful abilities on hulk he wins every time. If he just dukes it out in a fisticuff he'll lose eventually.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was fighting him with his hammer. smile. He was still losing. Which He used only once to hit Hulk. erm

Utrigita
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Again, if Thor uses his more powerful abilities on hulk he wins every time. If he just dukes it out in a fisticuff he'll lose eventually.

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quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Which He used only once to hit Hulk. erm He did the best he could. smile

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
He did the best he could. smile To calm Hulk down. thumb up

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
To calm Hulk down. thumb up No, he was fighting the Hulk and he was losing. Abc logic isn't needed here. Hulk wins.

Adam Grimes
'Fighting' lol.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
'Fighting' lol. So you lie and think using his hammer to hit his opponent isn't fighting. You're a joke. thumb up

Adam Grimes
He hit him once with it, while still trying to reason with him. Totally a fight. thumb up!!

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
He hit him once with it, while still trying to reason with him. Totally a fight. thumb up!! They were fighting. If he wasn't fighting he wouldn't have hit him. If you don't know what a fight is its best you stay off the vs. sections of the board.

Enjoy the rest of the forums.

Adam Grimes
There's the goofy posturing again. Lol.

So you agree Thor was holding back?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
There's the goofy posturing again. Lol.

So you agree Thor was holding back? You just said they weren't fighting. If you can't be honest d beating with you is a joke. Hulk wins.

Robtard
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
There's the goofy posturing again. Lol.

So you agree Thor was holding back?

Everyone knows that trying to restrain someone while saying: "We are not your enemies. Try to think!" means you're actually trying to kill them. Duh.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
You just said they weren't fighting. If you can't be honest d beating with you is a joke. Hulk wins. Good dodging, Dodge Dodgers.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Good dodging, Dodge Dodgers. You said they didn't fight so you're changing your stance not me.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
You said they didn't fight so you're changing your stance not me. You said they were fighting. So in the hypothetical case that scuffle could be labelled as a fight, would you say Thor was going all out?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
You said they were fighting. So in the hypothetical case that scuffle could be labelled as a fight, would you say Thor was going all out? They did fight as they both hit the other one and proceeded to continue.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
They did fight as they both hit the other one and proceeded to continue. So you wouldn't.

Nice try, DD.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
So you wouldn't.

Nice try, DD. You tried lying saying this wasn't a fight. I would say they both put forth the same effort once they got going.

StiltmanFTW
Hulk, easily.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
You tried lying saying this wasn't a fight. I would say they both put forth the same effort once they got going. It wasn't a fight imo. At least not the type of fight you're trying so hard to sell.

The movie disagrees.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
It wasn't a fight imo. At least not the type of fight you're trying so hard to sell.

The movie disagrees. It was a fight. But feel free to define what a fight is to you.

No, the movie doesn't. Why don't you actually try to debate because at this point your attempts at denying reality and the definitions of words you use is trollish at best.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
It was a fight. But feel free to define what a fight is to you.

No, the movie doesn't. Why don't you actually try to debate because at this point your attempts at denying reality and the definitions of words you use is trollish at best. Oh the irony.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Oh the irony. You dodge any and all questions. Define what a fight is to you.

Time-Immemorial
What's up Dodging Dodgers!!!

Where is Roger Dodger?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
What's up Dodging Dodgers!!!

Where is Roger Dodger? Adam Grimes needs to stand trial for his crimes.

Tattoos N Scars
Originally posted by quanchi112
Adam Grimes needs to stand trial for his crimes.

Get in Judge Dredd mode then!

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
You dodge any and all questions. Define what a fight is to you. Don't try to change the subject of the topic.

Btw, other feats don't count?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Don't try to change the subject of the topic.

Btw, other feats don't count? All feats count but I answered your question. You said it wasn't a fight so define a fight. I get you aren't bright but at least try to fake your way through the debate.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Robtard
Everyone knows that trying to restrain someone while saying: "We are not your enemies. Try to think!" means you're actually trying to kill them. Duh.


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Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Oh the irony.


laughing out loud

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
All feats count but I answered your question. You said it wasn't a fight so define a fight. I get you aren't bright but at least try to fake your way through the debate. You're so dense, Forrest. I was obviously exaggerating when I said it wasn't a fight, as it was barely a fight but somewhat of a confrontation. A proper fight would have the two parts trying to actively hurt and KO each other.

Not one part trying to reason with the other and doing as less damage as possible.

Do you need anything else spoonfed to you, DD?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
You're so dense, Forrest. I was obviously exaggerating when I said it wasn't a fight, as it was barely a fight but somewhat of a confrontation. A proper fight would have the two parts trying to actively hurt and KO each other.

Not one part trying to reason with the other and doing as less damage as possible.

Do you need anything else spoonfed to you, DD? So you concede the statement. I'm ****ing good. So now you say something even more moronic. So you believe Thor's hammer and Hulk's punches are not meant to hurt their opponent ? So Thor was attempting to massage his face ? Release some endorphins ?


He did try to reason with him and then he engaged him and it was fight time.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you concede the statement. I'm ****ing good. So now you say something even more moronic. So you believe Thor's hammer and Hulk's punches are not meant to hurt their opponent ? So Thor was attempting to massage his face ? Release some endorphins ?


He did try to reason with him and then he engaged him and it was fight time. If he was trying to KO Hulk, then why didn't Thor use lightning or you know, the hammer more than once?

I know you struggle to understand the scene, just keep watching it on YouTube, DD!

Time-Immemorial
DODGING DOGERS!

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Then why didn't Thor use lightning or you know, the hammer more than once?

I know you struggle to understand the scene, just keep watching it on YouTube, DD! That is on you to prove. He got a clean hammer shot and did the best he could. You can't say why didn't he use or that type of ridiculous argument therefore you arrive to some shitty conclusion you didn't have to prove.

You first said it wasn't a fight and then prtebeded hammer shots aren't meant to hurt who they hit. No wonder you rarely post anymore you're awful at it.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
That is on you to prove. He got a clean hammer shot and did the best he could. You can't say why didn't he use or that type of ridiculous argument therefore you arrive to some shitty conclusion you didn't have to prove.

You first said it wasn't a fight and then prtebeded hammer shots aren't meant to hurt who they hit. No wonder you rarely post anymore you're awful at it. Your trolling is stupid.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Your trolling is stupid. You said it wasn't a fight and then acted like hammer shots to the face are not intended for harm. Trolling is all you, kiddo.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
You said it wasn't a fight and then acted like hammer shots to the face are not intended for harm. Trolling is all you, kiddo. But he wasn't going for the KO.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
But he wasn't going for the KO. So now you don't think he was trying to ko the Hulk but instead let him rampage along the entire ship to potentially bring it down ? Ironman ko'd the Hulk with his armor and Thor was trying to do the same. Hitting someone in the face with your hammer isn't a facial massage. You're a fool.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
So now you don't think he was trying to ko the Hulk but instead let him rampage along the entire ship to potentially bring it down ? Ironman ko'd the Hulk with his armor and Thor was trying to do the same. Hitting someone in the face with your hammer isn't a facial massage. You're a fool. Then why try to choke him while He could have kept hitting him with the hammer? The first hammer shot looked pretty effective tbh.

Even then, Thor ended up looking better in this scuffle. So shut up already, Thor wins.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Then why try to choke him while He could have kept hitting him with the hammer? The first hammer shot looked pretty effective tbh.

Even then, Thor ended up looking better in this scuffle. So shut up already, Thor wins. Ok, I will attempt to explain it to your primitive mind. I doubt you ha e even mastered eating utensils. He initially tried talking him down and when that failed a fight ensued.

Hulk wins. He was on top and was getting better as the fight progressed unlike Thor who was in a submissive position when the fighter jet came to his aid.

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Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok, I will attempt to explain it to your primitive mind. I doubt you ha e even mastered eating utensils. He initially tried talking him down and when that failed a fight ensued.

Hulk wins. He was on top and was getting better as the fight progressed unlike Thor who was in a submissive position when the fighter jet came to his aid.

laughing out loud But Thor was holding back. Hulk didn't live the full Thor experience, just like you don't live the full debating experience by being a short bus rider, DD.

Not holding back Thor crushes him with multiple hammer strikes and lighting. thumb up

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
But Thor was holding back. Hulk didn't live the full Thor experience, just like you don't live the full debating experience by being a short bus rider, DD.

Not holding back Thor crushes him with multiple hammer strikes and lighting. thumb up Prove he was holding back. You made a claim. Hitting someone in the head with a hammer doesn't seem like holding back.

Baseless speculation aka conjecture. Facts are Hulk had the upper hand when the fighter jet showed up. Now leave the thread.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
Prove he was holding back. You made a claim. Hitting someone in the head with a hammer doesn't seem like holding back.

Baseless speculation aka conjecture. Facts are Hulk had the upper hand when the fighter jet showed up. Now leave the thread. Keep repeating the same silly arguments like a boring parrot.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Keep repeating the same silly arguments like a boring parrot. You made a claim you can't back up like your entire debating Arsenal. Facts matter. Your opinions don't.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
You made a claim you can't back up like your entire debating Arsenal. Facts matter. Your opinions don't. Look at my obedient pet parrot, guys. thumb up

ShadowFyre
That parrot joke made me lol. This is dumb, we have seen that the Helicarrier fight showed us two people literally using tiny fractions of the power they have displayed on screen and were arguing about whose holding back? They both are. Pretty freaking obvious. Either one could bring down the carrier in one hit. Dumb

FrothByte
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
That parrot joke made me lol. This is dumb, we have seen that the Helicarrier fight showed us two people literally using tiny fractions of the power they have displayed on screen and were arguing about whose holding back? They both are. Pretty freaking obvious. Either one could bring down the carrier in one hit. Dumb

Nah, Hulk was so pissed that he was attacking allies. That doesn't sound like someone holding back.

ShadowFyre
Maybe not holding back but considering the leviathan strike a little later there is no denying he didnt even hit Thor a fraction of as hard as he could have and vice versa. Sounds like holding back to me but people can call it whatever they want.

Silent Master
The LV punch was more like a punch, plus a few seconds of pushing. Fact is the Hulk was much angrier during the Thor fight.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Look at my obedient pet parrot, guys. thumb up You can't rebut my points. Run along, nerd.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
You can't rebut my points. Run along, nerd. Don't be silly, DD. Parrots can't 'make points'.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Don't be silly, DD. Parrots can't 'make points'. The manner in which you are referring to yourself as a pet parrot is almost as odd as when you swore they weren't fighting.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
The manner in which you are referring to yourself as a pet parrot is almost as odd as when you swore they weren't fighting. Oh no, DD the pet parrot is attacking a strawman again!

I should have taught you better boy.

TH3_V01D
Why would Hulk hold back anyway?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Oh no, DD the pet parrot is attacking a strawman again!

I should have taught you better boy. Says the guy who doesn't know what a fight is. laughing out loud

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
Says the guy who doesn't know what a fight is. laughing out loud And the obedient parrot keeps coming.

How would you know what a fight is anyway? It's not like parrots have hands.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
And the obedient parrot keeps coming.

How would you know what a fight is anyway? It's not like parrots have hands. I obviously know what a fight is you don't because you don't have a brain. The best part is you said Thor wasn't trying to hurt him despite the hammer to the head. Listen to yourself, kid. You're a horrible debater.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
I obviously know what a fight is you don't because you don't have a brain. The best part is you said Thor wasn't trying to hurt him despite the hammer to the head. Listen to yourself, kid. You're a horrible debater. But you're a pretty obedient parrot.

That's all that matters, DD. thumb up

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
But you're a pretty obedient parrot.

That's all that matters, DD. thumb up So you concede the entire debate to me. I am amazing. Hulk wins.


Ps. Ask your mom what a fight really is before she tucks you into bed.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you concede the entire debate to me. I am amazing. Hulk wins.


Ps. Ask your mom what a fight really is before she tucks you into bed. Keep beating that strawman, DD.

You sound a little pissed, want a cracker?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Keep beating that strawman, DD.

You sound a little pissed, want a cracker? I am overjoyed at the idea you're ineptitude cost you this debate.

Revel in your own incompetence.

Hulk wins.

Adam Grimes
You're basing the outcome of this thread in a single hammer strike.

How desperate is that, DD?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
You're basing the outcome of this thread in a single hammer strike.

How desperate is that, DD? I am basing it off the fact that Hulk came off looking in control after a fight with Thor. He also punched him off screen later in the film.

Hulk>Thor in the films.

Adam Grimes
Only in DD the pet parrot's cut iirc.

carver9
Hulk

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk

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Hulk is pissed here and Thor is nerfed. There's no way Odinson wins it.

CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
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Hulk is pissed here and Thor is nerfed. There's no way Odinson wins it. Actually there is.

Thor's best movie feats easily trump Hulks, and they both have bad lows (Thor temporarily losing to Ultron, Hulk getting Ko'd by Iron Man)


Thor would not try to reason with a bloodlusted Hulk, and would unleash more powerful attacks. Seeing as how the op says Thor can't use city busting attacks, this still leaves Thor with his tornado/weather attacks and BFR possibilities. Thor can win this fighting intelligently.

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