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Spiderman with symbionte

Vs

Rogers, Bucky, Ozy, Khan

Arena Fight

No webbing for spider

Cap gets shield

Team is bloodlusted

I feel like the team can take this. These are movie versions ya? If so Cap has proven he's insanely durable. He's fallen from 20+ stories into concrete without breaking bones (granted the shield absorbed most of the impact, but his legs still hit the ground). He also has taken shots from Thor with his shield and just about everything else you can imagine. Spiderman's punches won't do much to cap with shield. HOWEVER, if Cap can't hang onto it it's game over.


Also, if Spidey were allowed to web they'd lose for sure.

Movie Spidey (Raimi version) is strong enough to stop trains, durable enough to get hit by speeding trains and still be totally fine afterwards (see the Spider-Man 2 director's cut version), fast enough to avoid automatic gunfire after the bullets leave the chamber and has the most detailed version of spider-sense ever seen for the character. In short, he's OP without the symbiote suit (which auto-bloodlusts him IIRC).

Spidey no question. Unless the crappy Webb version, in which case, he gets stomped hard.

Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
Movie Spidey (Raimi version) is strong enough to stop trains, durable enough to get hit by speeding trains and still be totally fine afterwards (see the Spider-Man 2 director's cut version), fast enough to avoid automatic gunfire after the bullets leave the chamber and has the most detailed version of spider-sense ever seen for the character. In short, he's OP without the symbiote suit (which auto-bloodlusts him IIRC).

Spidey no question. Unless the crappy Webb version, in which case, he gets stomped hard. Not really "Stop" trains....not with brute strength anyway. He did it more realistically by basically creating a net that gradually reduced the train's speed. It's still a hell of a feat for Spidey, but in context it's not as impressive. It's True that Spidey is above all of this team, but:

A) He can't use his web at all as per op
B) He is going up against 3 great h2h fighters and Kahn, who are all bloodlusted. Cap is going to be using this shield as lethally as possible.
C)and no, he's not auto-bloodlusted unless stated by op.

Spider-man without using maximum effort.

Originally posted by Placidity
Spider-man without using maximum effort.
I'd agree with you but Spidey can't even use webs here.

Keep in mind Cap was soloing Ultron for a good 10 minutes. Cap (and the rest) are bloodlusted and easily all of them are more skilled fighters than Spidey. Bucky and cap are gonna tag team Spidey worse than Iron Man

In all seriousness, this is alot closer than people are thinking. The team could get some wins here; all I'm saying.

Originally posted by Placidity
Spider-man without using maximum effort.

We usually agree, but not on this.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
I feel like the team can take this. These are movie versions ya? If so Cap has proven he's insanely durable. He's fallen from 20+ stories into concrete without breaking bones

Spiderman can do that while weakened. Bad example

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Spidey is going up against 3 great h2h fighters and Kahn, who are all bloodlusted.

Spidey is considerably fast and the few hits he land will quickly take out 2 the 4
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb

C)and no, he's not auto-bloodlusted unless stated by op.
If the Venom symbiote makes him bloodlusted or more violet and unless the OP forbids that it is a logical conclusion
And here's a respect thread for Raimi Spidey:
http://www.comicvine.com/spider-man/4005-1443/forums/raimiverse-spider-man-respect-thread-1637200/
And one of the goblin for good measure:
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/norman-osborn-2448/raimiverse-goblin-respect-thread-complete-1643974/

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Spidey is considerably fast and the few hits he land will quickly take out 2 the 4

If the Venom symbiote makes him bloodlusted or more violet and unless the OP forbids that it is a logical conclusion
And here's a respect thread for Raimi Spidey:
http://www.comicvine.com/spider-man/4005-1443/forums/raimiverse-spider-man-respect-thread-1637200/
And one of the goblin for good measure:
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/norman-osborn-2448/raimiverse-goblin-respect-thread-complete-1643974/ I'm aware of Spidey's feats. He cannot use his web, which is really the main reason the team even has a chance. AS I said, if Cap can keep control of his shield the whole time, the team gets some wins. If not, they lose everythime.

Spidey with the symbiote suit is overkill. Normal Spidey can take these guys without a ton of effort. He has them outclassed in speed, strength, durability, and agility, not to mentio the spidey sense. Thats is almost a stomp. The suit makes it into an outright stomp.

He had the suit and was fighting against harry and nothing seemed beyond what Cap can handle.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He had the suit and was fighting against harry and nothing seemed beyond what Cap can handle. That says more about Harry than anything. The dude was keeping up with a bullet timer whos further amped by a suit. Thats pretty impressive. Without the suit, I actually think their fight would have gone more similar to Spideys fight with the Goblin in the first movie where it life Pete bloody and torn before he won. Maybe Harry would have even won since Harry is younger with the same Goblin serum and better/more versitile tech.

Which bullet timer?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Which bullet timer? Spidey's a bullet timer. Theres a scene in the first movie where some robbers open fire on him. He flips after they fire, and the bullets hit behind him. That cant be aim dodging like usual since he flips after they shoot.

This is a solid team, its not a stomp by any means. Also Cap has his shield and bukys metal arm can make the game winning weakness against him which is loud noise.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
This is a solid team, its not a stomp by any means. Also Cap has his shield and bukys metal arm can make the game winning weakness against him which is loud noise.

If we give them the advantage of having full knowledge of the symbiotes weakness, they can at least get rid of the suit, although they'd have to keep up the noise after Spidey is out to keep it from going back to him (unless it goes to one of them, in which case their team now has Venom and Spidey will lose; not very fair though, and I doubt thats what you're going for). Despite that, Spidey got hit by a train while he was on another train, which basically doubles the speed. He took at least 10 downward hits from a being made up of hundreds of tons of sand. He's taken punches from beings with legitimate super strength that make Cap, the strongest person on this team, look weak. They're not gonna knock him out or do enough damage to injure him in a meaningful way. Not like any of them are even fast enough to tag him.

Spidey is also strong enough to likely KO each of them with one hit. It's a definite stomp.

When was he one shotting anyone of his opponents.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
When was he one shotting anyone of his opponents. I don't think I'd put Bucky or Cap in the same category as Goblin or Sandman

Why no webs?

Originally posted by Arachnid1
I don't think I'd put Bucky or Cap in the same category as Goblin or Sandman

Cap plus his shield make him able to hang above Sandman and goblin league.

Originally posted by Impediment
Why no webs?

Hax

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Cap plus his shield make him able to hang above Sandman and goblin league. For like 2 seconds before Spidey just takes it away with his superior speed and strength.

The shield is a nonfactor here

No he won't take it away, he has no webs here and he will be too bogged down with the team beating him down.

who is Ozy? It can't be Ozymandias from 'Watchmen', is it Otto Octavius?

why the heck did you call him Ozy?

Originally posted by marwash22

why the heck did you call him Ozy?

Too much font

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
No he won't take it away, he has no webs here and he will be too bogged down with the team beating him down. He doesn't need webs. The strength and speed gap is so big Spidey could just run up and pull it out of caps hands. Cap doesn't have the strength to hold on.


Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Too much font Wait, are you talking about Ock? Because that changes things considerably.

I was thinking Ozymandias

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
No he won't take it away, he has no webs here and he will be too bogged down with the team beating him down.

naw lol. Spidey is fast enough to effortlessly snatch that shield in mid flight or strong enough to just yank it from cap. Khan is a non factor, Ozy will go down. Bucky and Cap hang for a few more minutes but eventually get outclassed. Like the other guy said, Spidey tanked multi ton blows from giant sized sandman and was still conscious. Nobody here has the strength to put spidey down. Add that durability with his bullet timing speed, superior strength and the DAMN SYMBIOTE amp this becomes spite.