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Captain America runs the following growing gauntlet with all battles being to the Death or KO with no BFR allowed...

Cap is allowed no rest or recovery time inbetween rounds; as soon as one round ends, the next begins immediately...

How far does Captain America get?


1) Bane...
2) Bane+Kingpin...
3) Bane+Kingpin+Punisher...
4) Bane+Kingpin+Punisher+Marv...
5) Bane+Kingpin+Punisher+Marv+Kevin...
6) Bane+Kingpin+Punisher+Marv+Kevin+Daredevil...
7) Bane+Kingpin+Punisher+Marv+Kevin+Daredevil+Khan...


Note:
The version of Bane here is the one featured in Dark Knight Rises...
Kingpin, Punisher, and Daredevil are from the Netflix original series...
Kevin and Marv are from Sin City...
Khan is as featured in the latest Star Trek movie...

Shield? If no then 4 or 5 with the shield 6 or 7

I think he clears it. Most of these guys get one shotted. Civil War will cement my position.

even w/o seeing Civil War until next Friday, Cap clears and stomps

Originally posted by golem370
Shield? If no then 4 or 5 with the shield 6 or 7

He's got his shield; its standard equipment...

@KingD and Bruce...

You guys really think he clears?

He'll be facing Bane 7 times in a row, Kingpin 6 times in a row, Punisher 5 times in a row, Marv 4 times in row, Kevin 3 times in a row, Daredevil 2 times in a row, and Khan at the very end with no rest or recovery time in between (and the final round is Khan plus everything he's faced countless times before all at once)...

With that said, you guys really think clears?

Until I see some of this guys hurting an Ironman level being with their fists or running with cars on the highways or stopping a helicopter from taking off Cap clears it.

@Igniz

I havent looked at the greyed out section; is it spoilers from Civil War?

I'm guessing it is; in which case I wont look, but is the highlighted feat uber as hell?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
@Igniz

I havent looked at the greyed out section; is it spoilers from Civil War?

I'm guessing it is; in which case I wont look, but is the highlighted feat uber as hell?

There were more. I'll give you a hint once the movie(Captain Americca:Civil War) is available from where you are. Spiderman did a lot of uber feats. And Captain America fought him.

The wank is real

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
@KingD and Bruce...

You guys really think he clears?

He'll be facing Bane 7 times in a row, Kingpin 6 times in a row, Punisher 5 times in a row, Marv 4 times in row, Kevin 3 times in a row, Daredevil 2 times in a row, and Khan at the very end with no rest or recovery time in between (and the final round is Khan plus everything he's faced countless times before all at once)...

With that said, you guys really think clears?


yes...

Absolutely.

Clears with a smile on his face. America, **** Yeah.

You forget that since the next round start immediately, that means the people Cap beats don't get a chance to rest or heal either.

So yea, Cap clears.

He beat up a whole elevator of SHIELD agents. Top end SHIELD agents probably. Most of these guys aren't that far off from a top end SHIELD agent. Marv probably gives him some trouble though, but with the shield he should be good

Bane and the other human level guys are just dead or unconscious for 7 rounds lol.

Everybody in that elevator were fodder except Bones John McClane killed 5 or 6 men in a elevator by himself.

McClane's also the greatest fictional hero/combatant in cinematic history, so it's not really fair using him as the measuring stick.

Anyhow, back to the match. Marv, DD an Khan will be the hardest, Marv's crazy tough, but can be KO'd by much less than Cap shield-smashing his head, Khan's bones can be broken by Spock-level-strength; Cap is WAY beyond that and DD while tough and agile, will go down from a single well placed shield edge, if not two.

Cap clears with no trouble

Originally posted by Silent Master
You forget that since the next round start immediately, that means the people Cap beats don't get a chance to rest or heal either.

So yea, Cap clears.

Thats not how it works...

The opponents are refresh to full at each round...

Otherwise the growing gauntlet makes no sense; Bane gets broken in round one and no more good for the other rounds if its as you suggest...

So no, Cap gets no rest or recovery time, but his opponents are restored to full at each round...

Originally posted by Robtard
McClane's also the greatest fictional hero/combatant in cinematic history, so it's not really fair using him as the measuring stick.

Anyhow, back to the match. Marv, DD an Khan will be the hardest, Marv's crazy tough, but can be KO'd by much less than Cap shield-smashing his head, Khan's bones can be broken by Spock-level-strength; Cap is WAY beyond that and DD while tough and agile, will go down from a single well placed shield edge, if not two.

Kevin is very formidible as well; Marv only beat him with prep (and even that wasnt enough; Marv didnt get him until Kevin got careless)...

Kevin is fast enough to dodge close range gun fire while advancing on his foe afterall...

And if Kevin claws out Caps eyes like he did to Marv when they first fought, Cap would lose; dont forget that when Kevin shows up, it'll be with a fresh Bane, Kingpin, Punisher, and Marv backing him...

Originally posted by FrothByte
He beat up a whole elevator of SHIELD agents. Top end SHIELD agents probably. Most of these guys aren't that far off from a top end SHIELD agent. Marv probably gives him some trouble though, but with the shield he should be good

I disagree with this...

Not even a top end Shield Agent is punching through a pillar like Bane can or has anywhere near the damage soak of Punisher...

Marv or Kevin would clear that elevator as well...


I do agree that Marv can be a problem; Cap is superior to him one on one of course, but Marv with the others behind him could be trouble...imho.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I disagree with this...

Not even a top end Shield Agent is punching through a pillar like Bane can or has anywhere near the damage soak of Punisher...

Marv or Kevin would clear that elevator as well...


I do agree that Marv can be a problem; Cap is superior to him one on one of course, but Marv with the others behind him could be trouble...imho.

So you're saying you don't think a guy like Ward can't beat Baleman from TDKR?

Originally posted by FrothByte
So you're saying you don't think a guy like Ward can't beat Baleman from TDKR?

Not a chance...

Well I guess we'll just have to disagree. Because I don't see Ward having much trouble with Baleman. Which is why I don't consider Bane any higher than a top end SHIELD agent.

Ward will have some trouble with TDKR Baleman's armor imo

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Thats not how it works...

The opponents are refresh to full at each round...

Otherwise the growing gauntlet makes no sense; Bane gets broken in round one and no more good for the other rounds if its as you suggest...

So no, Cap gets no rest or recovery time, but his opponents are restored to full at each round...

Cap wont need any rest or recovery as most of these people go down after 1 or 2 hits.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Cap wont need any rest or recovery as most of these people go down after 1 or 2 hits.

You really think its that simple?

He's going to start taking damage at some point and these arent just walking zombies that are going to just allow Cap to hit them...

Kevin for example (which I think will be a big problem) is arguably faster than Cap; afterall Kevin can dodge close range gun fire while advancing on his target...

And not only does Kevin have claws, but he has a history of going for the eyes...

If he scratches Caps eyes out, then what happens?

To clear this gauntlet, Cap has got to face a full strength Kevin 3 times and in the last round Khan and Daredevil will be there inaddition to a full strenth Bane, Kingpin, Punisher, and Marv...


Some of you are arguing that Cap clears "easily"...

I dont buy that at all and think you are not giving some of these characters proper credit...

Cap may clear, but I absolutely refused to believe that he does it easily...

This is Captain America...not the Hulk.

Because Cap can literally one-shot almost everyone here if he actually uses his full strength.

Forgive the fanboy ^

Ok, I forgive TheLordofMurder.

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Ward will have some trouble with TDKR Baleman's armor imo

Joker was able to hurt Batman with that armor, and this was Baleman at his peak. Ward would destroy him. When you take Joker's fight into consideration then Bane beating Baleman isn't really all that impressive.

Marv and Khan are the biggest threat to Cap here but as long as he has his shield and his opponents are unarmed then he should clear with difficulty. Because at the end of the day no one here is strong enough to take him out.

@LoM Bro Cap is superhuman, in all stats pretty much. A full powered strike with his shield would kill anyone here save MAYBE Marv but he's out for sure. Civil War feats were insane.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Joker was able to hurt Batman with that armor, and this was Baleman at his peak. Ward would destroy him. When you take Joker's fight into consideration then Bane beating Baleman isn't really all that impressive.

I didn't say Ward can't beat Baleman. lol pretty much any decent street can beat Baleman. I only said he will have trouble with the armor.

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
I didn't say Ward can't beat Baleman. lol pretty much any decent street can beat Baleman. I only said he will have trouble with the armor.

Fair enough.

Seriously, after Civil War, guys like Bane, Kevin, Fisk and even Daredevil are complete nonfactors here. They get oneshotted, one after the other. And it isn't just Cap's striking power/strength that got better feats. The amount of heavy blunt force trauma he takes without any injury whatsoever is insane. Marv and Khan might hold out against a few more blows, but they don't have the strength to take him out.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Seriously, after Civil War, guys like Bane, Kevin, Fisk and even Daredevil are complete nonfactors here. They get oneshotted, one after the other. And it isn't just Cap's striking power/strength that got better feats. The amount of heavy blunt force trauma he takes without any injury whatsoever is insane. Marv and Khan might hold out against a few more blows, but they don't have the strength to take him out.

Wow...

Sounds like my opinion of Captain America is going to change significantly after Civil War; Cap must be uber as hell in it...

Well, not a major spoiler really (at least not in terms of plot), but there is an instance where Tony gets smashed by a bunch of cars coming crashing down on him, and it barely seems to have any real effect on the suit, where as Cap's fist hits later on (not even his shield) were denting and damaging IM's armour. If Cap going all out can do that to Tony's armour, these guys are going to get f***** up badly.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Well, not a major spoiler really (at least not in terms of plot), but there is an instance where Tony gets smashed by a bunch of cars coming crashing down on him, and it barely seems to have any real effect on the suit, where as Cap's fist hits later on (not even his shield) were denting and damaging IM's armour. If Cap going all out can do that to Tony's armour, these guys are going to get f***** up badly.
Imo that was PIS, since it has taken way worse than Cap's punches

Thing is Cap and Bucky really were portrayed as being absolutely uber in this. Like that helicopter feat, once you actually see the entire thing, is just ridiculous, and Bucky was again portrayed as his virtual equal. I mean it is not like they were tearing through it like tissue paper. Hell, Bucky lost his metal arm and nearly got killed in the fight, and Steve could have gone down right along with him if Bucky hadn't had enough left in him to distract Tony long enough for Steve to mount a quick offense and crush his arc reactor with his shield. Like I was one of the people who defended the notion that Cap's stats should stay the same, due to the nature of his powers, but even to me, there was a clear amp from AoU to Civil War.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Thing is Cap and Bucky really were portrayed as being absolutely uber in this. Like that helicopter feat, once you actually see the entire thing, is just ridiculous, and Bucky was again portrayed as his virtual equal. I mean it is not like they were tearing through it like tissue paper. Hell, Bucky lost his metal arm and nearly got killed in the fight, and Steve could have gone down right along with him if Bucky hadn't had enough left in him to distract Tony long enough for Steve to mount a quick offense and crush his arc reactor with his shield. Like I was one of the people who defended the notion that Cap's stats should stay the same, due to the nature of his powers, but even to me, there was a clear amp from AoU to Civil War.


Yeah Cap and WS were portrayed as peers again (but with definite edge to Cap) until they both face off against Spider-Man where there seems to be a huge difference between Cap and WS.

And I agree Cap's definitely had an upgrade since AOU. In fact he seems to have gotten stronger and faster with each movie. Not sure if Cap vs Loki would end so quickly anymore.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah Cap and WS were portrayed as peers again (but with definite edge to Cap) until they both face off against Spider-Man where there seems to be a huge difference between Cap and WS.

And I agree Cap's definitely had an upgrade since AOU. In fact he seems to have gotten stronger and faster with each movie. Not sure if Cap vs Loki would end so quickly anymore.

Yeah, well, as you said in another thread it is Cap's movie after all, so at the end of the day, he is going to come out looking best.

Ant-Man would kick all their asses now though, at least one-on-one. Or at least step on their asses. He is durable as f*** in giant mode.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller


Ant-Man would kick all their asses now though, at least one-on-one. Or at least step on their asses. He is durable as f*** in giant mode.


Well yeah I mean how many Avengers did it take to put him down? Lol

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Thing is Cap and Bucky really were portrayed as being absolutely uber in this. Like that helicopter feat, once you actually see the entire thing, is just ridiculous, and Bucky was again portrayed as his virtual equal. I mean it is not like they were tearing through it like tissue paper. Hell, Bucky lost his metal arm and nearly got killed in the fight, and Steve could have gone down right along with him if Bucky hadn't had enough left in him to distract Tony long enough for Steve to mount a quick offense and crush his arc reactor with his shield. Like I was one of the people who defended the notion that Cap's stats should stay the same, due to the nature of his powers, but even to me, there was a clear amp from AoU to Civil War.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well yeah I mean how many Avengers did it take to put him down? Lol


lol true enough. But I feel like he gets underrated as a character by a lot of people, so it was nice to also have him shine a bit.

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Imo that was PIS, since it has taken way worse than Cap's punches

Agreed. Clear PIS. IM suit has taken far far more than even an amped Rogers could produce. If his hits did anything, it can only be because his suit was already compromised or PIS. It really can only be that way

the worst part was when Bucky kinda overpowered IM's arm with his normal arm. If Bucky can do that, well, then what is IM for. It took far more effort for Savin or Thor to do the same
Also, just in case you guys didn't believe me I procured a pirated copy of the movie. So I have the gif ready at a moments notice
Also, the fight never felt like between those on unbelievable power disparity. If one was the underdog, it was barely. The Ultron fight was far better. It looked less like a fight between a Cap level guy vs average joe (I consider the difference between Im and Cap bigger than that gap), and more like a bantamweight vs heavyweight, Yo know the bantam would most probably get his ass kicked but its clear that he's not. totally outclassed and may pull an upset. If anyone was the underdog, it wasn't much. Heck, remember the scene where the two tag teams him in the trailer? That scene, along with many, looked like if IM didn't have his flight, lasers, missiles, repulsors, and all other crap he would've got his ass kicked. He looked barely, if at all stronger. imo
Oh screw the spoilers, I'm too pissed to care
http://s32.postimg.org/h1ngf323l/ezgif_1535220178.jpg

If IM barely looked stronger, than it's a case of blatant PIS. Tony's strength feats poop on Cap's. Literally.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
If IM barely looked stronger, then it's a case of blatant PIS. Tony's strength feats poop on Cap's. Literally.
Do you think the writers ever care about what this character has done before or have them win or lose according to their plot? A majority doesn't. The amount of jobbing Iron Man did in this flick completely ruined my enjoyment of which was otherwise an excellent movie with well-built characters, good cohesive story and perfect pacing with fights that had very believable motives

Why do you assume it's PIS? This all sounds like Tuesday for Cap as its been in the comics since the 60s. He's always been able to perform infinitely higher than he's billed so this shouldnt come as a surprise to anyone.

Originally posted by KingD19
Why do you assume it's PIS? This all sounds like Tuesday for Cap as its been in the comics since the 60s. He's always been able to perform infinitely higher than he's billed so this shouldnt come as a surprise to anyone.
You know, I was hoping for that not to come into the movies. And he's not simply doing higher than he's billed. He doing things to opponents that guys vastly stronger, faster and overall superior failed to when trying to do the exact same thing. When I see Bucky wrestling with Iron Man and doing even better than Thor when Iron man is in a mentality where he's more intending to hurt and maim than he was against Thor, that is PIS. How ever you say it is not, it still is
When Cap can't even pull Spiderman towards him without using his full body and momentum, then casually hold down a flying Iron man with one hand, that's PIS to the highest extent or absolutely nerfing Iron man for the plot or both in one

I don't know about you guys, but when even Black Widow takes less damage from Bucky than Iron Man armor does, it's nothing but pure PIS

If anyone doubts what I say, look here, a longer gif. Does Iron Man look like someone whose several times stronger than Bucky?
http://s32.postimg.org/k8p1oxxib/ezgif_4163452707.gif

And why the hell would Iron man need his replusors to get bucky off of him? Why the hell couldn't he pry Bucks' arm off? Unless of course Iron Man is that weak since he isn't strong enough to do that. This is the usual horrid plot armor protecting the writer favorites

Perhaps IM's suit wasn't 100% charged. That's a good explanation for inconsistencies in IM's showings in general.

As to the final fight, maybe IM had just found out a super big secret impacting his entire life, and wasn't at a rational state of thinking, so it could have affected him (in a lot of fights, he actually wins via intelligence). Or y'know, maybe he spent the entire film getting physically battered, and was hardly at 100% inside his armour for the final fight.

That still doesn't explain the damage that happened to the suit. Tony being sick shouldn't hamper the suit that much. If Tony's physical condition and mental condition was that much of a factor, then why didn't it show it in the other movies. Especially IM 2 and 3. Heck even in the first movie he at the climax he was not in top form (neither him or the suit) but he still soaked more than what bucky or Cap could dish out. It may matter when building the suits, but when not fighting in it.

Haven't seen CW yet, but even without those feats, Cap is strong enough to cut through high strength steel cable with the edge of his shield (CA:TWS), he could literally one-shot the majority of the team with a well placed hit if he wanted.

Originally posted by Robtard
Haven't seen CW yet, but even without those feats, Cap is strong enough to cut through high strength steel cable with the edge of his shield (CA:TWS), he could literally one-shot the majority of the team with a well placed hit if he wanted.
He can dent metal by kicking people into it (also TWS), Suffice to say he is destroying everyone here