Blade vs MCU gauntlet
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FrothByte
Seen the Blade vs. Elektra thread I'm reminded of how highly regarded Blade is in the MvF. So I thought we'd put him through an MCU gauntlet. All fights are h2h, no armor or weapons. Blade is in standard form, meaning not amped by a fresh drink of blood. He gets healed after every fight. How far does he go?
1. Daredevil
2. Ironfist (allowed to use chi fist)
3. Luke Cage
4. Winter Soldier (not Bucky but Winter Soldier)
5. Captain America
6. Spiderman (Tom Holland) - no spiderwebs
7. Ironman - no weapons or flight but can use AI to assist in fighting
8. Ronan
9. Thor
10. Hulk
Juk3n
If his sword can shred Ironman armor he wins and stops at thor.
Arachnid1
He clears the first 6. Iron Man gives him trouble though. If it's the same IM armor from Civil War with no flight or weapons, Blade takes it. The last 2 are a flat out no though. I cant remember Ronan well enough to comment on him.
Silent Master
How does he get past Luke Cage?
Utrigita
Originally posted by Silent Master
How does he get past Luke Cage?
co-signed.
Juk3n
If black sky can rock him so can Blade
Dreampanther
Originally posted by Juk3n
If black sky can rock him so can Blade
Not to mention that Cage can't touch Blade on the best day of his life.
playa1258
Blade beats Luke due to skill and speed.
WS would stop him.
FrothByte
Originally posted by Dreampanther
Not to mention that Cage can't touch Blade on the best day of his life. Does Blade have any feats to show he can hurt Cage?
KingD19
Originally posted by FrothByte
Does Blade have any feats to show he can hurt Cage?
Throughout all of his movies, he's hit people hard enough and damaged the surroundings similar to what Cage and Diamondback and Danny(w/IF) have done. He's at least in that strength range. And so far Blade has tanked more damage than Cage has dealt out while fighting Drake and Nomak.
FrothByte
Originally posted by KingD19
Throughout all of his movies, he's hit people hard enough and damaged the surroundings similar to what Cage and Diamondback and Danny(w/IF) have done. He's at least in that strength range. And so far Blade has tanked more damage than Cage has dealt out while fighting Drake and Nomak.
I don't know man. I can't remember any feat from Blade or Nomak that equals Cage shoulder blocking an SUV or Danny pulverizing an entire floor with one hit.
KingD19
Originally posted by FrothByte
I don't know man. I can't remember any feat from Blade or Nomak that equals Cage shoulder blocking an SUV or Danny pulverizing an entire floor with one hit.
Drake body slammed Blade into the floor so hard it shattered and turned into a crater. And Nomak kicked him through an armored door as well as knocking him around a few more times.
Danny has only pulled off his Season Finale IF one time. I'm talking about the regular uses every other time he does it. Like blowing people backward and knocking doors off hinges.
wakkawakkawakka
Drake replicate the floor shatter on Blade and he still has enough energy to get back up. Worst case scenario he can just bring it to a fight of attrition when it comes to Luke.
FrothByte
Originally posted by KingD19
Drake body slammed Blade into the floor so hard it shattered and turned into a crater. And Nomak kicked him through an armored door as well as knocking him around a few more times.
Danny has only pulled off his Season Finale IF one time. I'm talking about the regular uses every other time he does it. Like blowing people backward and knocking doors off hinges.
That bodyslam would be indicative of Drake's strength though, not Blade's. I'm trying to find specific strength feats that would indicate Blade can hurt Cage.
I'll have to review the Nomak kick you mentioned. Can't seem to remember it.
KingD19
Blade kicked Triple H Vampire through a literal vault door.
When he worked his way through the goons to get to Drake, he was launching
them clear across the lobby and kicking guys straight up into catwalks.
He also kicked Drake a good 30-40 feet, and kicked him so hard he lost control of his shapeshifting and briefly turned into his true form.
Nomak kicked Blade through an armored door, crushed a stone pillar by swinging Blade's face through it, and pushed over a gigantic art fixture that was anchored into the stonework. He also crushed the floor with his foot.
My point though is that Blade can also tank damage above what Cage himself has shown to dish out. The beatings from Nomak and Drake are far higher than anything Cage has done and Blade was dazed, but mostly unharmed through both fights.
Arachnid1
Originally posted by KingD19
Blade kicked Triple H Vampire through a literal vault door.
When he worked his way through the goons to get to Drake, he was launching
them clear across the lobby and kicking guys straight up into catwalks.
He also kicked Drake a good 30-40 feet, and kicked him so hard he lost control of his shapeshifting and briefly turned into his true form.
Nomak kicked Blade through an armored door, crushed a stone pillar by swinging Blade's face through it, and pushed over a gigantic art fixture that was anchored into the stonework. He also crushed the floor with his foot.
My point though is that Blade can also tank damage above what Cage himself has shown to dish out. The beatings from Nomak and Drake are far higher than anything Cage has done and Blade was dazed, but mostly unharmed through both fights. It's also important to note that through all that, Blade wasn't scratched or any worse for wear. That kind of strength and durability combined with the fact that he's a bullet timer with both swords and guns in his standard arsenal means he clears all the way through Spidey for sure. IM is where things get difficult, but he clears that too depending on the suit.
carthage
I remember Blade knocking guys through walls in A clip from Trinity, which probably isn't enough to hurt Cage
Scoobless
Diamondback hurt cage in H2H.
DB may be slightly stronger than Blade when using that tech, but Blade has speed and skill above him and certainly has better stamina. It may take a while, but I think Blade can wear Cage down.
FrothByte
Originally posted by Arachnid1
It's also important to note that through all that, Blade wasn't scratched or any worse for wear. That kind of strength and durability combined with the fact that he's a bullet timer with both swords and guns in his standard arsenal means he clears all the way through Spidey for sure. IM is where things get difficult, but he clears that too depending on the suit.
Just want to point out that this is pure h2h...
Utrigita
Originally posted by FrothByte
Just want to point out that this is pure h2h...
I'll also like to point out that having rewatched the fight between Nomak and Blade, Blade to me looks affected by getting beaten around by Nomak. The only clear display of superhuman strength I see is from Nomak. Blade without a doubt has insane damage soak though.
DttM77EP8tw
In the fight against Drake though, at 4:02 is a clear superhuman strength.
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Arachnid1
Originally posted by FrothByte
Just want to point out that this is pure h2h... You're right! Sorry about that. That makes things a bit more difficult. He still clears through Cap, but Spidey may make things difficult. He tends to be inconsistant. At his best, he stomps both WS and Falcon at the same time. At his worst, he loses to Cap and gets stomped by Vulture or Shocker. Strength wise, he leaves people like Cap or Blade far behind. He also wins in durability and agility, not to mention he has the suit helping him. Blades got him in speed and reflexes, but I don't know if thats enough. Most of Blades best feats are with his arsenal too. He still has impressive H2H feats but Spidey makes him struggle. TBH, in pure hand to hand, he'd have an easier time with IMs Civil War suit than Spidey. If he makes it past Spidey, he makes it past IM. Otherwise, he might stop at Spidey.
Dreampanther
This is new baby Spidey, without webs and without Spider sense, right? I'll put my money on Blade. Baby Spider-Man couldn't handle Cap so I doubt he'll be able to handle Blade without his most powerful weapons and with so little experience.
John Murdoch
A necro hit for today.
After Endgame and Far From Home, how does the new upgraded MCU team fare against Eric?
I'm guessing Cap with Mjolnir puts him to sleep for a bit, but any other opinions?
riv6672
Originally posted by FrothByte
Seen the Blade vs. Elektra thread I'm reminded of how highly regarded Blade is in the MvF. So I thought we'd put him through an MCU gauntlet. All fights are h2h, no armor or weapons. Blade is in standard form, meaning not amped by a fresh drink of blood. He gets healed after every fight. How far does he go?
1. Daredevil
2. Ironfist (allowed to use chi fist)
3. Luke Cage
4. Winter Soldier (not Bucky but Winter Soldier)
5. Captain America
6. Spiderman (Tom Holland) - no spiderwebs
7. Ironman - no weapons or flight but can use AI to assist in fighting
8. Ronan
9. Thor
10. Hulk
IMHO, Blade stops at Iron Fist, who can one him.
Assuming he got past Danny, which is entirely possible especially in anything but a one shot, Cage beats him.
Winter Soldier would beat him, Cap would beat him, Spidey would beat him, Tony would beat him, Ronan, Thor, Hulk, would all beat him.
John Murdoch
Originally posted by riv6672
IMHO, Blade stops at Iron Fist, who can one him.
Assuming he got past Danny, which is entirely possible especially in anything but a one shot, Cage beats him.
Winter Soldier would beat him, Cap would beat him, Spidey would beat him, Tony would beat him, Ronan, Thor, Hulk, would all beat him.
True, didn't even consider all the newer Defenders stuff that came out after this thread's last post. Danny and Luke got pretty uber from what I remember. Thanks Riv!
tkitna
Originally posted by riv6672
IMHO, Blade stops at Iron Fist, who can one him.
Assuming he got past Danny, which is entirely possible especially in anything but a one shot, Cage beats him.
Winter Soldier would beat him, Cap would beat him, Spidey would beat him, Tony would beat him, Ronan, Thor, Hulk, would all beat him.
I'm in the same corner. As soon as I saw the list I honestly said he's not making it past two, but others are saying he's beating Iron Man. I cant see it.
carthage
Dead stop at 6
Peter is well beyond him in terms of speed and raw physical strength at this point
riv6672
@tkitna & John Murdoch...:
Originally posted by carthage
Dead stop at 6
Peter is well beyond him in terms of speed and raw physical strength at this point
^^^i agree. Bane dies.
NemeBro
You would have trouble arguing Blade can beat Cap.
Peter would beat him to death accidentally.
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