The Greastest Displayed Durability...

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TheLordofMurder
Hulk...
Thor...
Wolverine...
Apocalypse...
Superman...
Doomsday...


Rank these 6 characters (from greatest to least) as pertains what they have displayed on screen which demonstrates their greatest showing of durability...

Average or low showings are not to be considered here; only each characters very best showing of durability on screen is what is being debated in this thread...

relentless1
Wolverine - tanked a nuked as well as Dark Phoenix disintegration
Doomsday - tanked a point blank nuke
Superman - tanked a point blank nuke
Thor - tanked bifrost explosion
Hulk - tanked a 30,000 ft fall


Apocalypse - can't recall him enduring anything substantial; he's either protected by his force bubble in the pyramid collapse or he ended up vaped by phoenix

marwash22
Originally posted by relentless1
Hulk - tanked a 30,000 ft fall

wouldn't say he tanked that, seeing as he was ko'd and made him revert back to Banner.

"tank" means you walked through it with no damage at all.

example: Hancock tanking a speeding train.

juggerman
Originally posted by marwash22
wouldn't say he tanked that, seeing as he was ko'd and made him revert back to Banner.

"tank" means you walked through it with no damage at all.

example: Hancock tanking a speeding train.

That means the only examples he gave that are legit are Thor and Doomsday

marwash22
sure.

i didn't call the examples out because i couldn't immediately recall the circumstances.

juggerman
Word.

Superman was pretty messed up in space after the nuke, Wolverine was damaged heavily by the nuke and Jean but healed pretty quickly from both and Hulk was KO'd from the fall.

Psychotron
Doomsday.

ShadowFyre
Doomsday-point blank Nuke with no I'll effects and immediate reentry into atmosphere. Seemed unhurt

Thor- point blank Sokovia explosion, as strong or stronger than a nuke, and immediately felt thousands of feet. Was KO'd and had minor scratches, abrasions

Superman- point blank nuclear explosion, was unconscious and did not look like he could withstand another such blast

Hulk-survived a 30'000 foot fall and a hollowed out skycraper collapsing on him.

Apoc- used force fields from what I remember

Wolverine- never tanked anything, was injured to point he would have died if not for regeneration and adamantium bones

playa1258
Waiting for someone to claim Thor did not take Sokovia exploding.

Can add the World Engine to Superman.

juggerman
Originally posted by playa1258
Waiting for someone to claim Thor did not take Sokovia exploding.

Is that a thing people think? I know that people debated how much he contributed to the blast but not that he didn't take the blast to the face

playa1258
Some people actually think it.

HulkIsHulk
A certain poster actually claimed that Iron Man protected Thor from the blast

juggerman
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
A certain poster actually claimed that Iron Man protected Thor from the blast

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FrothByte
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Doomsday-point blank Nuke with no I'll effects and immediate reentry into atmosphere. Seemed unhurt

Thor- point blank Sokovia explosion, as strong or stronger than a nuke, and immediately felt thousands of feet. Was KO'd and had minor scratches, abrasions

Superman- point blank nuclear explosion, was unconscious and did not look like he could withstand another such blast

Hulk-survived a 30'000 foot fall and a hollowed out skycraper collapsing on him.

Apoc- used force fields from what I remember

Wolverine- never tanked anything, was injured to point he would have died if not for regeneration and adamantium bones

Seems pretty spot on.

Silent Master
If Doomsday was unhurt by the blast he wouldn't have needed to adapt.

ShadowFyre
Thanks, I think some people are confusing Logan's ability to survive e something with durabiity. Logan's probably been flatlined a couple hundred times in his life. That's just a guess but judging by how he wades into hordes of gunmen I bet it's not far off

ShadowFyre
Originally posted by Silent Master
If Doomsday was unhurt by the blast he wouldn't have needed to adapt.

Don't remember him adapting to anything. He just got stronger from all energy

Flyattractor
There was a Nuke in BVS? Man that movie was so boring even that didn't leave any kind of memory.....

And as for Little Jimmy "tanking" Jean's dark phoenix attack....I bet she wasn't really trying to kill him because she wanted him in her panties.

Surtur
Remember that time in X2 a cop shot Wolverine in the forehead and nothing happened?

Heh, me neither.

Silent Master
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Don't remember him adapting to anything. He just got stronger from all energy

I don't recall, did the movie actually state he was getting stronger because he absorbed the nuke's energy.

ShadowFyre
Basically,Zod/Doomsday didn't adapt. He absorbed enery and became stronger the more he fought

Silent Master
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Basically,Zod/Doomsday didn't adapt. He absorbed enery and became stronger the more he fought

Was this actually stated in the movie or is this some H1 level speculation?

Inhuman
If a nuke hit Sokovia (which is classified as a "country"wink , it would have destroyed most of the buildings, homes and landscape. It would have not blown it up to pieces like it was destroyed in AOU.

Zack M
Doomsday.

relentless1
Originally posted by Silent Master
I don't recall, did the movie actually state he was getting stronger because he absorbed the nuke's energy.

yes. i believe the exact quote from the general was that Doomsday was "unkillable" due to absorbing and getting stronger from any energy sent his way

Flyattractor
Un-killable to al things ...except having a pointy stick shoved thru his chest...

Silent Master
Originally posted by relentless1
yes. i believe the exact quote from the general was that Doomsday was "unkillable" due to absorbing and getting stronger from any energy sent his way

I didn't recall that, a couple of questions. Number one, did he say this before or after the nuke?

playa1258
After the nuke.

K-Dog
And they showed a very brief missle camera view as the nuke hit, and it looked like Doomsday took the actual impact with Superman just behind him. He was a very very nasty bad boy.

Silent Master
Originally posted by playa1258
After the nuke.

Thank you, I was dreading having too re-watch part of the movie in order to find it. Sounds like the general was just guessing. I mean, I doubt he's qualified to distinguish between absorption and adaption.

Surtur
Originally posted by K-Dog
He was a very very nasty bad boy.

I just feel awkward reading this sentence knowing it's about some kind of weird alien rock monster.

tkitna
Not on the scale of the others probably, but Drax getting drug and thrown around behind the space ship was pretty impressive.

HulkIsHulk
Originally posted by Surtur
Remember that time in X2 a cop shot Wolverine in the forehead and nothing happened?

Heh, me neither.
It's as if people prefer to to think about just that and not about either of his Weapon X escape scenes where he's practically Luke Cage.

HulkIsHulk
Originally posted by juggerman
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Found it

Originally posted by abhilegend
Uh no? Its not even close to that and Thor would've been vaporized if not for Tony using a heat shield to save him.



We already saw that Mjolnir hitting vibranium amplifies Thor's striking earlier when Thor hits Cap's shield against Hydra soldiers.

The fact that they outright say that Thor hitting Spire would only crack it should tell you that Thor wasn't capable of destroying the city or close to it.

TheVaultDweller
Abhi will go to absolutely ridiculous lengths to downplay Thor though, so his posts on the topic should be considered little more than popcorn material.

TheLordofMurder
Interesting anwers... thumb up

You know, for me, I'd rank them as follows:


1) Doomsday: withstood a nuke without any apparent ill effects whatsoever...

2) Wolverine: withstood a nuke while being heavily damaged, but he remained conscious and made a full recovery quickly afterwards...

3) Thor: was able to survive a detonation that was greater than what an individual nuke could achieve, but was KO'ed...

4) Superman: survived a point blank nuclear explosion, but was KO'ed as a result...

5) Hulk: survived a fall from a very great height and survived...

6) Apocalypse: his greatest feat of durability I can think of (attacks endured via shielding dont count) is having his throat cut by Psylocke and it not really having much effect upon him...

TheVaultDweller
Some things mentioned are more damage soak than durability. And yes, there is a difference. For example, Luke Cage has immense durability, but Punisher has immense damage soak. One is not taking damage, while the other is being able to keep on trucking despite damage taken.

h1a8
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Interesting anwers... thumb up

You know, for me, I'd rank them as follows:


1) Doomsday: withstood a nuke without any apparent ill effects whatsoever...

2) Wolverine: withstood a nuke while being heavily damaged, but he remained conscious and made a full recovery quickly afterwards...

3) Thor: was able to survive a detonation that was greater than what an individual nuke could achieve, but was KO'ed...

4) Superman: survived a point blank nuclear explosion, but was KO'ed as a result...

5) Hulk: survived a fall from a very great height and survived...

6) Apocalypse: his greatest feat of durability I can think of (attacks endured via shielding dont count) is having his throat cut by Psylocke and it not really having much effect upon him...

Wolverine is a damage soak feat. He was damaged. Also the nuke wasn't point blank. It was from a significant distance and in a well for extra protection.

relentless1
Originally posted by Silent Master
I didn't recall that, a couple of questions. Number one, did he say this before or after the nuke?

hes tells the president that Doomsday is unkillable after the nuke attack

juggerman
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Silent Master
Originally posted by relentless1
hes tells the president that Doomsday is unkillable after the nuke attack

Yet doomsday is killed, so he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about.

juggerman
I thought this was in the other clip but it wasn't. Diana states at 1:27 that it feeds on energy so I think the implication was the nuke didn't hurt it at all but just powered it up. Make your own judgments:

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TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by Silent Master
Yet doomsday is killed, so he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about.

Clearly he meant 'unkillable' as pertains to the US's ability to kill it with the weapons they had at hand; from the generals point of view they used their greatest weapon (a nuke) and it failed...what else is left?

Obviously there is no way he could have known about the Kryptonite Spear...

TheLordofMurder
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h1a8
Originally posted by Silent Master
Yet doomsday is killed, so he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about. He does. Kryptonite does not count as he meant in the conventional way (or in the sense of all available options to the military).

Silent Master
Originally posted by h1a8
He does. Kryptonite does not count as he meant in the conventional way (or in the sense of all available options to the military).

That is mere speculation on your part.

h1a8
Originally posted by Silent Master
That is mere speculation on your part. Only an idiot would think it's speculation, when in actuality, he's just an actor saying lines. The writer had no intention of him knowing about the krpytonite spear. There was nothing put in the movie to suggest that he knew there was such a weapon.

Silent Master
Originally posted by h1a8
Only an idiot would think it's speculation, when in actuality, he's just an actor saying lines. The writer had no intention of him knowing about the krpytonite spear. There was nothing put in the movie to suggest that he knew there was such a weapon.


Him being ignorant doesn't change the fact that his statement was incorrect.

Surtur
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
It's as if people prefer to to think about just that and not about either of his Weapon X escape scenes where he's practically Luke Cage.

I was mostly kidding, I'm well aware of his varying power levels. Remember in Origins when he just flat out wasn't budged at all when he blocked an optic blast from Deadpool? Good times., but the movie did produce a great game.

Surtur
As for Doomsday, IMO it's one of those things where we just don't have enough information. We have someone essentially guessing at what Doomsday is doing, or rather how he was doing it. Maybe his way of adapting to energy attacks is to absorb it, who knows.

TheVaultDweller
Wolverine is a terrible character for these kinds of discussions. Number one, his healing factor means we never really know what he tanked and what he just rapidly healed from. How may of the hits he has taken across the films would he have been able to without said healing factor immediately repairing the damage?

And number two... Logan is inconsistent as fuuuuuuuuuuuck. He is as fast, strong, durable, skilled etc. as the writers need him to be at any given point in time. We have showings of him casually slicing through shotgun barrels, but then being unable to cut through a katana. Gets knocked the hell out by a bullet to the head in X2, yet completely tanks a bullet to the forehead in Origins. Struggles when grappling with regular humans sometimes, yet other times can hang with people with legit super strength, and outmuscle multiple humans at once.

playa1258
Hopefully we never see DD again.

TheLordofMurder
Just to note and make clear; this thread deals with Durability...

In other words, whats the greatest attack/damaging situation that the character in question has survived...

Its ok if a character didn't no-sale the attack...

Its ok if the attack damaged the character heavily...

As long as the character survived the attack, then its fair game...

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