Depowered Thor vs. Black Widow
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Stigma
Ok. I think this could be an interesting fight and perhaps better matched than previous threads involving Depowered Thor.
* Thor without his powers as in Thor 1
* Black Widow at her peak
* This is pure H2H fight. No gear involved.
Setting: In a deserted warehouse
Starting distance: 100 feet
Who wins?
StiltmanFTW
Widow. Skill, feats, not to mention her equipment.
Stigma
Well, I was thinking purely h2h. I will edit OP to make it clear.
StiltmanFTW
Thought so.
Purely h2h, she still takes him. Nat is not fodder.
Impediment
Thor wins, but not too easily.
TethAdamTheRock
Black Widow
FrothByte
Thor, though Widow makes a fight out of it.
ShadowFyre
Natasha is pretty much top of the hth food chain for regular humans in the mcu. She hasn't lost a single encounter with a regular humans and has been the only individual to even put up a fight against supersoldiers and the like. She would beat cap,tchalla and Bucky one on one if they had human stats as well
Stigma
Well, Thor has far more experience if we go by his age. On top of that, he was fighting skilled opponents, instead of fodder like Natasha fought against.
ShadowFyre
I know. But he has fought them when powered. He's only beat shield agents depowrred though. She has consistently creamed anything with human stats and multiple things that should be outside of human weight class.
Silent Master
Mostly with the help of her gadgets, Thor took out those Shield agents faster than BW managed to beat a group of security guards and she was using gadgets at the time.
FrothByte
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I know. But he has fought them when powered. He's only beat shield agents depowrred though. She has consistently creamed anything with human stats and multiple things that should be outside of human weight class.
Yes but even while powered, Thor has fought against equally powered opponents and showcased his skill. Meaning he still outfought opponents who were with similar strength and durability. That skill doesn't go away just because he's depowered.
Whereas Widow never showcased her skill against any skilled opponent other than Hawkeye who had zero feats to support just how good he is.
Plus Thor outweighs Nat by probably 100 lbs. and being male will still factor in here.
abhilegend
Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes but even while powered, Thor has fought against equally powered opponents and showcased his skill. Meaning he still outfought opponents who were with similar strength and durability. That skill doesn't go away just because he's depowered.
Whereas Widow never showcased her skill against any skilled opponent other than Hawkeye who had zero feats to support just how good he is.
Plus Thor outweighs Nat by probably 100 lbs. and being male will still factor in here.
Are you saying Thor is more skilled than Black Widow?
Remind us how his fight with Kurse went?
Silent Master
Remind us how her fight with Winter Soldier went.
abhilegend
Originally posted by Silent Master
Remind us how her fight with Winter Soldier went.
Better than his fight with Kurse did and Winter Soldier is both stronger and more skilled than her.
Was Kurse more skilled than Thor too?
Silent Master
You have a very odd definition of better
Adam Grimes
Widow would beat any human level foe sans DD, probably.
FrothByte
Originally posted by abhilegend
Are you saying Thor is more skilled than Black Widow?
Remind us how his fight with Kurse went?
No. I'm ssying Thor has more feats of testing his skill against better caliber opponents. Plus he's bigger and stronger than Nat.
The Ellimist
Black Widow would've stomped her way through that facility.
abhilegend
Originally posted by FrothByte
No. I'm ssying Thor has more feats of testing his skill against better caliber opponents. Plus he's bigger and stronger than Nat.
Like? Who is this mysterious being of more caliber than Winter Soldier or Hawkeye.
Him being bigger and stronger means very little to someone like Natasha.
FrothByte
Originally posted by abhilegend
Like? Who is this mysterious being of more caliber than Winter Soldier or Hawkeye.
Him being bigger and stronger means very little to someone like Natasha.
BW got completely beat up by WS, so that's not a plus in Nat's favor. Fighting Hawkeye is a good feat, but that's only one. In fact, the only fight I recall BW had against a notable opponent.
Thor has fought Loki, Malekith, IM, Hela, Hulk and Surtur. All of whom are enhanced enough to give him a fight if not outright stronger than he is. He displayed his fighting skill in all of those fights.
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