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Do you mean all of them together? WW gets torn apart. She'd have trouble taking out even one of them.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Do you mean all of them together? WW gets torn apart. She'd have trouble taking out even one of them. How would someone who can stagger Superman with a headbutt and deflect bullets and electricity have trouble with a single Twivamp? I'm not the most familiar with the series, but what do they have that can deal with her?

Originally posted by NemeBro
How would someone who can stagger Superman with a headbutt and deflect bullets and electricity have trouble with a single Twivamp? I'm not the most familiar with the series, but what do they have that can deal with her?

The weakest among them was strong enough to uproot a fully grown tree. They were described to be as hard/tough as diamonds. They were fast enough that a fight from them viewed in regular time appears as just a blur. Plus one of them is a telepath, one of them is a precog and one of them is able to manipulate her emotions.

I'm not saying a single vamp can defeat her, but she'll definitely have her hands full with just one. 2 or more will rip her apart.

Originally posted by FrothByte
The weakest among them was strong enough to uproot a fully grown tree.

And you think this compares with someone who can physically cause Superman, who in a previous, weaker incarnation, could punch someone through dozens of skyscrapers and cause a shockwave with the force of their blows that tears a hole in one? Or even compares with someone (talking about Diana here) who can knock Doomsday on his ass with a shield swipe to the ankle? Diana actually at one point blocked a punch from Doomsday (using both hands on her sword). In terms of strength, do you think the Twivamps even approach her?



Yes they've been compared to granite as well. Both would be shattered by Doomsday's fist. Diana tanked it with no visible damage and was on her feet right afterwards.



That is not as fast as someone who can deflect machine-gun fire in combat and even electrical discharges.



Unless the empath can totally shut down Diana's will to fight before she kills them all I don't see how it matters to be honest.



Funny, I think she would effortlessly kill all four of them. They are laughably weaker, less durable, and slower. That Diana's standard equipment includes a sword that could easily behead them makes it even more lopsided.

Originally posted by NemeBro
And you think this compares with someone who can physically cause Superman, who in a previous, weaker incarnation, could punch someone through dozens of skyscrapers and cause a shockwave with the force of their blows that tears a hole in one? Or even compares with someone (talking about Diana here) who can knock Doomsday on his ass with a shield swipe to the ankle? Diana actually at one point blocked a punch from Doomsday (using both hands on her sword). In terms of strength, do you think the Twivamps even approach her?

Are you referring to when Wonder Woman couldn't even knock back Superman enough to make him take a step back? That wasn't a very good showing for Wonder Woman and definitely not impressive. A better feat would be her tank lifting feat... and even then uprooting a tree is pretty comparable. The twivamps should be somewhere within WW's strength range if not more powerful. These are guys who can easily crush rock.

As for a shield swipe to the ankle (which was a blind shot btw), do I need to explain to you how leverage works? Or how a 50 pound dog running full speed can easily unbalance a 200 pound man if it tackles him in his legs while he's not looking?


Originally posted by NemeBro

Yes they've been compared to granite as well. Both would be shattered by Doomsday's fist. Diana tanked it with no visible damage and was on her feet right afterwards.


When has Diana ever taken a direct shot from Doomsday? Every shot DD threw at her she either dodge or blocked with her shield and bracelets.

Originally posted by NemeBro

That is not as fast as someone who can deflect machine-gun fire in combat and even electrical discharges.


No, it's actually faster. If handgun bullets were the size of humans we'd actually be able to see them. So when two human-sized beings are moving so fast that their complex actions are nothing but one big blur, then they're actually faster. And even if they weren't their ability to use superspeed continuously while in h2h combat is a better speed feat than what we've seen from WW who was unable to use superspeed continuously.

Originally posted by NemeBro

Unless the empath can totally shut down Diana's will to fight before she kills them all I don't see how it matters to be honest.


Or the precog and telepath read her moves so she can't hit them.

Originally posted by NemeBro

Funny, I think she would effortlessly kill all four of them. They are laughably weaker, less durable, and slower. That Diana's standard equipment includes a sword that could easily behead them makes it even more lopsided.

Look, I get it. You don't like the Twivamps. Neither do I. That doesn't change the fact that WW has no feats to indicate she can easily win against one of them, let alone 4.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Are you referring to when Wonder Woman couldn't even knock back Superman enough to make him take a step back? That wasn't a very good showing for Wonder Woman and definitely not impressive.

Hurting Superman is more impressive than breaking rocks or pushing a tree over.



Her lifting a tank was done before fully awakening her powers.



Wow, they can crush rocks?

That really holds up against someone who was able to, using her strength, block a punch from Doomsday. crylaugh



A Twivamp couldn't have replicated the feat. They're too weak.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoHQckv5BN8

Wrong, 3:47 Diana during a leap with takes a blow to the mid-section that sends her flying, disarming her of her shield and sword.



You'd be able to see nothing more than a blur from a human moving at mach 1-3, if that. Go ahead and show me this blurry speed from them though. Seeing as how you think characters who push down trees and break rocks are stronger than someone who can plant her feet and only be sent moving about six feet by a blast that destroys several buildings, it ought to be amusing to see you try to defend it.



Prove this statement. Quantify their speed.



Prove this statement too. Show us Diana being locked out of using her speed during a time limit that you believe exists on it.



She's much faster than they are, it won't matter.



No, you're just being ridiculous.

You legitimately are arguing that pushing over a tree and breaking rocks is going to matter to someone who can hurt Superman with a headbutt or physically resist Doomsday.

Lmao at people arguing for twivamps...