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As the title says, who in the MCU can beat Kurse in hand to hand combat?

Hela
Possibly Power Gem Thanos

Thanos surely.
Hulk in my opinion.
Hulk Buster IM.

Will beat Kurse 100% no prob:
Thanos
Hela
Surtur full power

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Will beat Kurse 100% no prob:
Thanos
Hela
Surtur full power

Well surely Kurse aint beating Hela, but is Hela defeating Kurse?

I mean this is purely H2H, no knifes for her.

Pure h2h with no other powers and weapons? That's tough.

Definitely not Hulk. Not Thor or Hela either. Thanos probably has the best shot but it's still questionable.

Kurse might just be the best scrapper in the MCU.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Well surely Kurse aint beating Hela, but is Hela defeating Kurse?

I mean this is purely H2H, no knifes for her.

Her physical strength seems to be considerably beyond Thor's (the fact that she can effortlessly choke-pin him with one hand before he even took any on-screen damage, speaks volumes of their strength difference, basically treating him like a child or a 90 lbs weakling) while having stupid high durability (his punches don't seem to bother her one bit), damage soak and healing (cuts heal instantly) and extreme levels of speed/agility/skill.

Everything Kurse could do, she did better even without her knives.

Hela is still >>>>>>Thor in strength to the point she could shatter Mjolnir and overpower Thor's whole body with a single arm.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Pure h2h with no other powers and weapons? That's tough.

Definitely not Hulk. Not Thor or Hela either. Thanos probably has the best shot but it's still questionable.

Kurse might just be the best scrapper in the MCU.

I disagree about Hela. She looked practically invincible and far stronger than Thor was (even moreso than Kurse was).

I mean as a metric: Both Hela and Kurse choked Thor. Thor had already taken a few hits vs Kurse, but he was able to somewhat struggle against it. Hela's choke practically had him completely helpless and he seemed like he was still at full strength (well at least we don't see him getting hit prior).

Kurse vs Thor

choke at (0:33)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJneSSYTZFo

Hela vs Thor

choke at (1:48)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv3-G1k8VFY

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Her physical strength seems to be considerably beyond Thor's (the fact that she can effortlessly choke-pin him with one hand before he even took any on-screen damage, speaks volumes of their strength difference, basically treating him like a child or a 90 lbs weakling) while having stupid high durability (his punches don't seem to bother her one bit), damage soak and healing (cuts heal instantly) and extreme levels of speed/agility/skill.

Everything Kurse could do, she did better even without her knives.

Yeah she was stronger than Thor.

H2H only:

Hela wins. I mean Kurse tossed Mjolnir away, whilst Hela caught and crushed Mjolnir. Seems like a Significant difference to me.

Thanos without IG is a tough one to gauge. Will go for stalemate for now.

Hulk and Hulkbuster definitely lose Lmao

Hela and Surtur prime for the %100

Thanos and IW Thor can definitely be debated with Thor's new feats. I would give them a 40-50% chance.

Hulk has a 20%

Lol@ hulkbuster or somebody like blackdwarf winning any.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
I disagree about Hela. She looked practically invincible and far stronger than Thor was (even moreso than Kurse was).

I mean as a metric: Both Hela and Kurse choked Thor. Thor had already taken a few hits vs Kurse, but he was able to somewhat struggle against it. Hela's choke practically had him completely helpless and he seemed like he was still at full strength (well at least we don't see him getting hit prior).

Kurse vs Thor

choke at (0:33)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJneSSYTZFo

Hela vs Thor

choke at (1:48)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv3-G1k8VFY

Hela is more powerful in Asgard. Let's not forget that.
Also Thor's punches had less effect on Kurse than Hela. And Kurse hit Thor much further away than Hela ever did.

And Kurse could easily lift Thor up by his neck like a child if he wanted to. Thor is less than 1ton. That choke (lift by neck actually) comparison is faulty.
I look at how hard Thor gets hit and how effective are Thor's strikes against the two.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
H2H only:

Hela wins. I mean Kurse tossed Mjolnir away, whilst Hela caught and crushed Mjolnir. Seems like a Significant difference to me.

Thanos without IG is a tough one to gauge. Will go for stalemate for now.

Hulk and Hulkbuster definitely lose Lmao
That's if we assume that she wasn't worthy and had no ties to Mjolnir. Then I would say the feat proves that she is stronger than Kurse.

But if it was a plot device (or special circumstance) in why she was able to do that then we have to use other showings to prove strength.
Based on her striking Thor, she does not have the punching power to hurt Kurse significantly. I just don't see it. If we ignore her striking power shown (it didn't happen) and use the Mjolnir crushing feat as a basis of her punching power then she can hurt Kurse significantly

Put him in a hallway or corridor, and I will back any one of the Defenders. Defenders Hallway-Force is only matched by Cap Russo-Force.

Seriously though, Hela and Thanos probably have the best shot at this. Surtur would go without saying because he can literally just, like, step on anyone who bugs him.

I guess an argument could be made that she's not as large as Nurse and that's why he didn't go flying around.

Let's take Hulk vs. HB for example. Hulk is stronger but he was being manhandled Him due to being larger. Or that's my assumption anyway.

Dormammu.

Kurse vs. Hela is an interesting matchup. Hela has better pure strength feats (crushing Mjolnir, choking Thor) but Thor was able to put up a better fight against Hela than against Kurse.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Dormammu.

I suppose if Dormammu made a building-sized fist and attempted to squash Kurse, it would technically be H2H.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Kurse vs. Hela is an interesting matchup. Hela has better pure strength feats (crushing Mjolnir, choking Thor) but Thor was able to put up a better fight against Hela than against Kurse.


Meh he got his ass whooped by both. But if we want to get technical then Hela did more damage to him by taking out his eye.

Kurse was likely too durable for Thor to fight. But its not like he could hurt Hela either. Plus weve seen how even when she is stabbed through the torso it literally does nothing to her.

So im defo going with Hela.

Thor was also "unlocked" when he fought Hela. Imo she fought a more powerful version of Thor then Nurse did

Originally posted by h1a8
That's if we assume that she wasn't worthy and had no ties to Mjolnir. Then I would say the feat proves that she is stronger than Kurse.

But if it was a plot device (or special circumstance) in why she was able to do that then we have to use other showings to prove strength.
Based on her striking Thor, she does not have the punching power to hurt Kurse significantly. I just don't see it. If we ignore her striking power shown (it didn't happen) and use the Mjolnir crushing feat as a basis of her punching power then she can hurt Kurse significantly

How does either her being worthy or having ties to Mjolnir lessen the strength needed to destroy it?

How could she be worthy? Shes evil.

I know there are pictures of her holding it but the worthy enchantment was placed in Thor 1, so thousands of years later.

Originally posted by Silent Master
How does either her being worthy or having ties to Mjolnir lessen the strength needed to destroy it?

Because it can helps her stop and hold Mjolnir in place and it can helps her crush it. Therefore it wasn't a pure strength feat.

Originally posted by h1a8
Because it can helps her stop and hold Mjolnir in place and it can helps her crush it. Therefore it wasn't a pure strength feat.

How does it help her do either or those?

Holy shit

Originally posted by h1a8
Because it can helps her stop and hold Mjolnir in place and it can helps her crush it. Therefore it wasn't a pure strength feat.


There's no way that makes sense even to you. C'mon now. At least put some thought and effort into it.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Holy shit


I'm pretty sure there's a auto-troll app somewhere and H1 is using it.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
There's no way that makes sense even to you. C'mon now. At least put some thought and effort into it.

Im not claiming that she had ties to Mjolnir.
I'm explaining to Silent that if she did then it lessens the feat as a strength.
What do you think?

Except, you haven't actually explained how it lessens the strength feat.

Maybe....Ultron? The Ultron bots are technically part of him (sorta) so they could be allowed in the match. And he is/was vibranium coated, and he did kinda manhandle Thor for a little bit.

IMO Kurse would beat Hela. He completely dominated Thor whereas she didn't (until she used her knives), and this is pure H2H.

I think full powered Surtur and maybe Thanos are the only two that can beat Kurse in pure H2H.

Originally posted by xPRIMEx
IMO Kurse would beat Hela. He completely dominated Thor whereas she didn't (until she used her knives), and this is pure H2H.



Well Kurse swatted Mjolnir away wheras Hela caught and crushed it.

Plus she took Thors eye out. Kurse did not do any permanent damage to Thor.

Hela is likely not as invulnerable as Kurse but it seems she can take the same punishment nonetheless.

Not saying Hela is above him physically, but there is more than enough evidence to put her on par with him.




Originally posted by xPRIMEx
I think full powered Surtur and maybe Thanos are the only two that can beat Kurse in pure H2H.


Hela is on Thanos level Physically and in H2H.

She crushed Mjolnir. Her combat abilities are on par with Thor.

Originally posted by Me


Not saying Hela is above him physically, but there is more than enough evidence to put her on par with him.




Scrap this part. She is above him physically.

Just meant Kurse might be more invulnerable is all. But like I already stated she can take the same punishment regardless.

Originally posted by xPRIMEx
IMO Kurse would beat Hela. He completely dominated Thor whereas she didn't (until she used her knives), and this is pure H2H. Hela would dominate Kurse let us not let ourselves just because he dominated Thor. Hela dominated Thor along with Asgard.