Hancock/Thor vs Doomsday
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carver9
Who's taking this? No bfr.
Robtard
Hancock and Thor slap around Doomsday until it has absorbed enough energy to become powerful enough to kill them both.
DD was a shitty villain in a shitty film, but its power-levels are insanely high, you need K-Nite or some combatants that bring more than brick-level attacks.
FrothByte
What version of Thor and what weapon does he have?
carthage
Thor withstood the full force and heat of a star>> Clark died to a nuke
Thor is vastly more durable
playa1258
Some think that because Thor took the star in IW that he can't be hurt by anything less than that level.
As for this match Thor better aim for the head this time.
FrothByte
My thoughts:
Thor and Hancock together will physically outmatch DD... problem is I don't think they have the damage output to permanently take out DD. If a win can be garnered by a simple 10 count knockout then yeah, they can win. But if we're talking about actually killing DD or fully knocking him out then I can't see how they do it unless Thor has Stormbreaker and he chops DD's head off.
The Spectre+
Doomsday Eventually Wins
its energy aborsbtion abilgty is insane............
one thing is sure, they are not puting doomy down.
Robtard
Originally posted by carthage
Thor withstood the full force and heat of a star>> Clark died to a nuke
Thor is vastly more durable
The nuke didn't kill Superman, it put him in some sort of weird dehydrated coma (followed the comic somewhat here) and he needed a solar recharge, while Thor seemed like he was about to die after the neutron star feat.
"I think he's dying. He needs the axe!" -Eitri the Dwarf
FrothByte
Originally posted by Robtard
The nuke didn't kill Superman, it put him in some sort of weird dehydrated coma (followed the comic somewhat here) and he needed a solar recharge, while Thor seemed like he was about to die after the neutron star feat.
"I think he's dying. He needs the axe!" -Eitri the Dwarf
I think it's fair to assume they both would have eventually died from those feats had it not been for an external power source (the sun and stormbreaker).
Silent Master
Originally posted by FrothByte
Actually, there's no proof that DCEU Superman can take the full force of a star.
Especially seeing as the full force of a star is actually so far above a nuke you might as well be comparing a cup of water to the ocean.
Robtard
Are we forgetting that Superman's powers come from a star; absorbing its radiation? Kinda silly to ignore that. He could potentially have been powered up exponentially should he have done the same feat as Thor.
But it also needs to be pointed out that neutron star is a collapsed massive star, so its radiation may or may not power Superman.
Silent Master
The point was comparing their durability, if Superman gets powered up by something, surviving it isn't a durability feat.
BrolyBlack
Originally posted by FrothByte
Actually, there's no proof that DCEU Superman can take the full force of a star.
DNCU has always shown Superman to be amped by a yellow star. That star would amp him beyond belief. Not only could he survive it be he would be empowered by it.
FrothByte
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
DNCU has always shown Superman to be amped by a yellow star. That star would amp him beyond belief. Not only could he survive it be he would be empowered by it.
Emphasis on yellow star. Not just any star. I'm pretty sure that neutron stars are not yellow stars. In fact if I'm not mistaken, I do think a neutron star is originally a red star.
Robtard
The way Jor-El explained it for the DCCU, it seems Krypton's sun was a red dwarf or a similar "cool" star. While the emphasis was that Earth's sun was "young" and more vibrant (ie yellow star = higher/est energy output) and therefore was able to power Superman's kryptonian physiology.
Edit: Found the quote: "Earth's sun is younger and brighter than Krypton's was. Your cells have drunk in its radiation, strengthening your muscles, your skin, your senses. Earth's gravity is weaker, yet its atmosphere is more nourishing. You've grown stronger here than I ever could have imagined. The only way to know how strong, is to keep testing your limits." -Jor-El
KingD19
A neutron star would probably do more damage than Thor than. Concentrated red sun weakness.
Robtard
Neutron stars seem to emit electromagnetic radiation.
BrolyBlack
All we know for sure is that a yellow star amps Kal, that star was yellow.
FrothByte
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
All we know for sure is that a yellow star amps Kal, that star was yellow.
Yes, which means you can't assume that a neutron star will have the same effect, since a neutron star is not a yellow star.
BrolyBlack
But it was yellow
The Spectre+
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
But it was yellow
so youre saying since its a yellow star its not supposed to harm him, but amp him.
FrothByte
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
But it was yellow
Do you understand what the difference is between a yellow star and a neutron star?
And no it wasn't yellow, at least not just yellow. It had a whole bunch of colors in there.
Silent Master
Originally posted by FrothByte
Do you understand what the difference is between a yellow star and a neutron star?
And no it wasn't yellow, at least not just yellow. It had a whole bunch of colors in there.
Even if it was yellow, he is applying a no limits fallacy. as there is no proof that movie Superman could safely absorb that level of power at once.
For all he knows it could cause Superman's mind to collapse or his body might just explode from the strain.
BrolyBlack
Originally posted by FrothByte
Do you understand what the difference is between a yellow star and a neutron star?
And no it wasn't yellow, at least not just yellow. It had a whole bunch of colors in there.
Looks bright yellow to me
https://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/2018/04/6166130-thorinflarger.png
FrothByte
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Looks bright yellow to me
https://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/2018/04/6166130-thorinflarger.png
So you don't understand the difference between a yellow star and a neutron star then?
The Spectre+
Hancock Is A Non-factor in this thread. dont know how he got here.
carver9
Originally posted by The Spectre+
Hancock Is A Non-factor in this thread. dont know how he got here.

h1a8
You all let Cartage troll you lol.
1. Thor almost died. Why didn't he?
So much in tanking a portion of the beam coming from the star.
2. For several reasons, that showing has nothing to do with taking a phucking punch or being stabbed or having your neck snapped. Also, it is inconsistent with every showing by Thor when it comes to taking blows from someone Kurse level or higher or being stabbed by Hela's blades.
Silent Master
I see that H1 is still crying because Thor took the full force of a neutron star.
h1a8
Originally posted by Silent Master
I see that H1 is still crying because Thor took the full force of a neutron star.
Force?
How much force did Thor take in order to die?
10 ton? 50 tons?
Silent Master
Originally posted by h1a8
Force?
How much force did Thor take in order to die?
10 ton? 50 tons?
Wow, you really suck at science.
BrolyBlack
Thor did die, just like he died in the first movie, then Odin/Mjornir brought him back, this time Stormbreaker brought him back.
The same can be said about the sun for kal.
Silent Master
Are you joking? a neutron star gives of trillions of times more energy than a nuke and that doesn't even count the massive durability needed to be that close to a NS without becoming a pancake.
Plus, Superman didn't get better under his own power. he was healed via the exposure to the sun.
K-Dog
If Wonder Woman can slice off an arm, Stormbeaker which can fly through a beam of all 6 infinity stones should be able to cut off limbs. Enough for a win before recovering? Not sure.
The Spectre+
supes didnt really die, he was just massively weakened, but we saw that when he did die, he needed planetary energy to revive him.
on the other hand death was inevitable for thor(he was already dying) until SB was ready.
Silent Master
The difference is that the nuke is a 1, whereas the NS is around 10,000.
BrolyBlack
The heat isn't the matter, its the fact he survived a nuclear explosion.
Superman is already immune to our sun. He is immune to the as neutron star as well
It's a brighter than our own and therefore more nourishing than this solar systems sun.
Silent Master
The fact is that Thor's feat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Superman's.
Silent Master
The movie specifically states that Thor is being hit with the full force of the star.
WolvesofBabylon
Id be fine cancelling both feats out as both were dead/dying and needed somethi g to revive them.
Doomsday Tanked the Nuke and reentry from space.
Silent Master
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Hyperbole.
Prove it.
BrolyBlack
Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
Id be fine cancelling both feats out as both were dead/dying and needed somethi g to revive them.
Doomsday Tanked the Nuke and reentry from space.

FrothByte
Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
Id be fine cancelling both feats out as both were dead/dying and needed somethi g to revive them.
Doomsday Tanked the Nuke and reentry from space.
I'm not even sure why we're discussing what Superman can or cannot tank as he's not even in this thread.
Nibedicus
Watch the scene where Thor and Rocket was talking en route to Nidevellir.
h1a8
Originally posted by Silent Master
Are you joking? a neutron star gives of trillions of times more energy than a nuke and that doesn't even count the massive durability needed to be that close to a NS without becoming a pancake.
Plus, Superman didn't get better under his own power. he was healed via the exposure to the sun.
larger temperature = more energy
It takes energy to heat something up. The final result of how much energy is in the temperature.
Temperature is all that matters as it represents the average kinetic energy of a substance.
The neutron star exhibited no other forces, otherwise the rocket raccoon, the ship, etc would have been subject to them. The star had no phucking gravity for crying out loud. The writer didn't even write that in.
h1a8
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Nope. They are about that hot:
http://www.atomicarchive.com/Effects/effects7.shtml
But a neutron Star is much hotter:
https://www.quora.com/Is-a-neutron-star-as-hot-as-the-star-its-made-of
Yes the temperature of a neutron star that is many years old is around 1 million degrees. Thor withstood a 1 million degree heat beam for several moments before dying.
h1a8
Originally posted by Silent Master
The difference is that the nuke is a 1, whereas the NS is around 10,000.
So how is 1 million degrees more than 100 million?
Such a retarded statement.
h1a8
Originally posted by Silent Master
Prove it.
What's the full force of a star?
10 tons?
If you can't give a rough estimate then you concede that it is figurative language.
Psychotron
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Watch the scene where Thor and Rocket was talking en route to Nidevellir.
Okay, I must have missed that. I'll check again when I'm home but either way the star was cold and inert when they got there. Is there anyone who seriously thinks Rocket's little ship was enough to re-ignite a neutron star back to it's full power?
Also, why is this even part of the argument? Thor didn't tank the star's heat, he was about to die before Groot finished Stormbreaker for him.
Silent Master
Originally posted by h1a8
What's the full force of a star?
10 tons?
If you can't give a rough estimate then you concede that it is figurative language.
Take your retarded trolling elsewhere.
steverules_2
The star discussion again?
h1a8
Originally posted by Silent Master
Take your retarded trolling elsewhere.
You are the one who claimed the full force, yet cannot quantify about how much force that is. We all know who's doing the trolling here.
Silent Master
Originally posted by h1a8
You are the one who claimed the full force, yet cannot quantify about how much force that is. We all know who's doing the trolling here.
See, now you're just lying. the movie itself stated full force of the star. not me.
Now take your lying and trolling elsewhere.
John Murdoch
Thor with Stormbreaker cleaves Doomsday in as many pieces as he wants. Hancock could help if he felt like it; maybe fly Doomsday to the moon or something. John isn't needed here however.
Finished watching IW again last night: Thor using Rocket in the ship as a sling to start rotating the rings and then taking the neutron star's force to keep the forge's iris open is leagues ahead of anything any mainline DCEU or MCU hero/villain has done thus far on screen. It's a Reeve Superman level of feat.
The duo figure out a way to eliminate Doomsday sooner or later.
BrolyBlack
All he was doing was trying to break the ice on the rings that was jamming it up. On the contrary, Superman pulled an ocean frigate stuck in ice.
If Superman needed to recreate that feat all he would have had to do is he heat vision the ice.
Thors feat is no where a island lift that classic supes has done.
BruceSkywalker
"sitting back and eating popcorn"
Silent Master
Someone isn't taking into account how massive those rings were.
Rings big enough to surround a neutron star >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ocean liner
BrolyBlack
The star wasn't that big, it also was not emitting any substantial gravity, so it obviously wasn't that big.
BrolyBlack
Was it emitting gravity?
BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
"sitting back and eating popcorn"
laughing at the silly trolls
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Was it emitting gravity?
jeez TI, Are you this dumb and ignorant?????
BrolyBlack
First on ignore list^ congrats BS
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