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Thanos has his armor/sword
Arthur his final trident
Diana has her gear

Who wins

This team isn't enough, strong as it is. Shazam can't fight. Aquaman stats are just too low to pose a threat and Wonder Woman doesn't have the strength feats.

Thanos brutalizes them.

Diana guts Thanos while Arthur and Billy hold him. They are too fast for him.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Diana guts Thanos while Arthur and Billy hold him. They are too fast for him. You have to be extremely lonely to just troll without any integrity on a forum. Thanos wins. Diana never gutted anyone. Am got beat up by a human being in his native armor and weaponry. Billy was being caught by the ghouls rather easily.

Originally posted by Juk3n
This team isn't enough, strong as it is. Shazam can't fight. Aquaman stats are just too low to pose a threat and Wonder Woman doesn't have the strength feats.



Thanos wins

Originally posted by quanchi112
You have to be extremely lonely to just troll without any integrity on a forum. Thanos wins. Diana never gutted anyone. Am got beat up by a human being in his native armor and weaponry. Billy was being caught by the ghouls rather easily. Why the late edit? Too much rage-typing?

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Why the late edit? Too much rage-typing? I added more to disprove your pitiful points. You just conceded the argument. Wonderful.

Really depends here.

I don't want to script the fight, but if the team works in conjunction with each other and doesn't just brawl against Thanos, I think they have the stats to take him down. It would require all of the tools at their disposal though:
- Diana using her speed and strength in conjuction with some good chops from her sword and the lasso.
- Arthur utilizing his skill with his trident and all of his strength and durability.
- Shazam actually fighting more like - well - Superman. He's got the speed, strength, durability, and even some lightning, which we've seen Thanos hates (obviously Thor's lightning has what might as well be infinite more feats and power than Shazam's at this point, just saying).

However, if it turns into a Justice League/Endgame brawl-a-thon (like Diana and Arthur did against Uncle Steppenwolf and Cap/IM/Thor did against Thanos, respectively), the tide turns to Thanos doing them in.

It really depends on how quickly Shazam gears up into a competent combatant once the opening bell is rung IMO.

I do not want to script the fight but I will argue on pure imagination and ignore their showings in the films. If you are this biased why even post? At least put up a disclaimer.

I'll add: if Diana's sword was strong enough to hack one of Doomsday's arms off at the elbow, Thanos is going to lose a limb as well should she get the striking opportunity. Actually, that's a good strategy going off what Adam Grimes said: Arthur and Billy distract or pin Thanos to give Diana an opening. If Thanos loses a limb, he isn't winning.

Also, Steppenwolf was a pretty potent combatant himself combat-wise, so Diana and Arthur have gone up against a big bad like Thanos before this matchup, even if they weren't making much of a dent in him prior to Supes showing up.

Originally posted by John Murdoch
I'll add: if Diana's sword was strong enough to hack one of Doomsday's arms off at the elbow, Thanos is going to lose a limb as well should she get the striking opportunity. Actually, that's a good strategy going off what Adam Grimes said: Arthur and Billy distract or pin Thanos to give Diana an opening. If Thanos loses a limb, he isn't winning.

Also, Steppenwolf was a pretty potent combatant himself combat-wise, so Diana and Arthur have gone up against a big bad like Thanos before this matchup, even if they weren't making much of a dent in him prior to Supes showing up. Thanos has superior skill to her and unlike Doomsday he beat the trio of heroes that stepped to him.

Doomsday lacked the skill to really put himself in a good position.


Steppenwolf lacked the skill, strength, durability, and experience of Thanos. These three also never beat Steppenwolf.

Thanos is the better warrior, bettervfeats, better weapon, fought more opponents than old Steppenwolf who in the end got ripped up by his subordinates due to the fear he showed after he lost his axe. Thanos beat the shit out of Carol, Tony, Thor, and Cap after he threw his sword.

^Ya that's where I'm stuck. Thanos always came out on top if someone engaged him in CQC and melee, which is what we saw in IW and Endgame and similar confrontations with Stepp in Justice League. Supes, Bats, and WW actually had some good teamwork against Doomsday, especially Diana. IF she fights like that (lassoing Thanos and going for a limb with her sword), the team is looking good. If they just go all-out brawl, Thanos doesn't play that game for long without laying a smackdown.

Again, my biggest question mark is Shazam. If he brings his A-game, what are honestly Thanos' options against a speed-blitzer with essentially diet-Superman strength? How much damage can the titan do against Billy? Legit questions, as we only see Shazam get bettered in his film by Sivana and the seven deadly sins.

Originally posted by John Murdoch
^Ya that's where I'm stuck. Thanos always came out on top if someone engaged him in CQC and melee, which is what we saw in IW and Endgame and similar confrontations with Stepp in Justice League. Supes, Bats, and WW actually had some good teamwork against Doomsday, especially Diana. IF she fights like that (lassoing Thanos and going for a limb with her sword), the team is looking good. If they just go all-out brawl, Thanos doesn't play that game for long without laying a smackdown.

Again, my biggest question mark is Shazam. If he brings his A-game, what are honestly Thanos' options against a speed-blitzer with essentially diet-Superman strength? How much damage can the titan do against Billy? Legit questions, as we only see Shazam get bettered in his film by Sivana and the seven deadly sins. Thanos fought more experienced opponents than anyone on the JL in Thor. Thor could not even beat a Thanos who withstood multiple heroes wailing on him with two weapons against an unarmed Thanos. Doomsday is much easier to lasso up than Thanos. Thanos is way too strong to not instantly rip her off her feet even if she was successful.


Just because she cuts off Doomsday limb that does not mean she does the same to Thanos.


The Sins easily caught him and were not quick. Shazam never did anything overtly impressive in his entire film. Thanos withstood carols superior strength to even Superman just fine. He caught her with one side of his body free and tossed her aside. He did not even have both hands free or his weapon. These guys get worked. Deep down you know it.

Aquaman is crazy strong, Diana's sword is crazy sharp. And shazam is crazy fast. The three of them together could take thanos. Especially as we have never seen him being able to handle speedy guys all that well.

Thanos is stronger than hulk, hulk is stronger than Aquaman, Thanos stands to one-two shot Aquaman, he was able to predict Spidermans moves through Dr. Stranges teleportations. Shazam is a noob with zero with fighting skills or training. His only challege is Diana. If you put Diana in the MCU she would not be ranked the most powerful person in the universe, not even close.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Aquaman is crazy strong, Diana's sword is crazy sharp. And shazam is crazy fast. The three of them together could take thanos. Especially as we have never seen him being able to handle speedy guys all that well. Two of them were losing just against Steppenwolf who has no super speed. This false notion of super speed beating skilled powerhouses is absurd. Did not work on Steppenwolf or Doomsday. We see the Sins reacting just fine against Shazam without superspeed.


Thanos would maul them despite your fanboyism.

Originally posted by carthage
Thanos has his armor/sword
Arthur his final trident
Diana has her gear

Who wins

Thanos is a statue to WW.
Shazam has blitz ability.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Thanos is stronger than hulk, hulk is stronger than Aquaman, Thanos stands to one-two shot Aquaman, he was able to predict Spidermans moves through Dr. Stranges teleportations. Shazam is a noob with zero with fighting skills or training. His only challege is Diana. If you put Diana in the MCU she would not be ranked the most powerful person in the universe, not even close.

Aqua man took a hit from Superman that knocked him about a block away. And took hits from Steppenwolf.

Spider-Man was coming out of portals to attack Thanos in a significant amount of time. He would come out an say a full sentence before attacking Thanos. Any professional human fighter would be able to react to those attacks.

Shazam has speed and speed >>>> any amount of skill.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos fought more experienced opponents than anyone on the JL in Thor. Thor could not even beat a Thanos who withstood multiple heroes wailing on him with two weapons against an unarmed Thanos. Doomsday is much easier to lasso up than Thanos. Thanos is way too strong to not instantly rip her off her feet even if she was successful.


Just because she cuts off Doomsday limb that does not mean she does the same to Thanos.


The Sins easily caught him and were not quick. Shazam never did anything overtly impressive in his entire film. Thanos withstood carols superior strength to even Superman just fine. He caught her with one side of his body free and tossed her aside. He did not even have both hands free or his weapon. These guys get worked. Deep down you know it.

Agreed on Thor, lots and lots of feats of varying skills shown for Mr. Hemsworth. Not for sure I agree with Thanos being able to escape the lasso easier than Doomsday, nor do I agree with Thanos' resistance to cutting and slicing being higher than Doomsday's. However, I can see Thanos using more skill and technique to escape the lasso, though, so not saying you're wrong Quan.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Aquaman is crazy strong, Diana's sword is crazy sharp. And shazam is crazy fast. The three of them together could take thanos. Especially as we have never seen him being able to handle speedy guys all that well.
So, the two stances I'm caught between are yours, NotAllThatEvil, and yours, Quan. It's really a matter of the three working together with a powerhouse like Shazam at their disposal to beat Thanos, or does the very skilled superbrute put them down before they can do so?

You have the big 3 of the MCU (Worthy Cap, Thor, and IM) getting outright beaten in a handicap match by Thanos. 3 superheroes with a boatload of feats under their belts, but - besides Thor (who was out of his prime) and to an extent IM - aren't the physical cannons that Diana, Arthur, and especially Billy are.

Thanos wins.

AM is a non factor. Shazam is a Noob. WW is not on Thanos level

Here's a problem:

Thor and IM were dumbed down when they fought Thanos in Endgame.

Wonder Woman seemed dumbed down when she fought Ares and Steppenwolf.

If WW fights as straight forward as she did against Steppenwolf, then the DC team loses.

If she shows a bit of creativity, even just to the extent she fought DD, then they have a chance. Not a sure shot, but at least a chance.

If she fought to the best of her abilities and actually use her superspeed the way she never used against a decent opponent, then she should be able to solo.


Long story short: On paper, the DC team should win. But based on feats, Thanos wins.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Here's a problem:

Thor and IM were dumbed down when they fought Thanos in Endgame.

Wonder Woman seemed dumbed down when she fought Ares and Steppenwolf.

If WW fights as straight forward as she did against Steppenwolf, then the DC team loses.

If she shows a bit of creativity, even just to the extent she fought DD, then they have a chance. Not a sure shot, but at least a chance.

If she fought to the best of her abilities and actually use her superspeed the way she never used against a decent opponent, then she should be able to solo.


Long story short: On paper, the DC team should win. But based on feats, Thanos wins. Another post that says ignore what you saw let me tell you what I imagine. Why debating you is utterly pointless. The directors confirm Thor is back and confident right before the fight. Just because you saw a different outcome that does not give you the right to ignore it and script nonsense in your mind.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Here's a problem:

Thor and IM were dumbed down when they fought Thanos in Endgame.

Wonder Woman seemed dumbed down when she fought Ares and Steppenwolf.

If WW fights as straight forward as she did against Steppenwolf, then the DC team loses.

If she shows a bit of creativity, even just to the extent she fought DD, then they have a chance. Not a sure shot, but at least a chance.

If she fought to the best of her abilities and actually use her superspeed the way she never used against a decent opponent, then she should be able to solo.


Long story short: On paper, the DC team should win. But based on feats, Thanos wins.

Hows was IM dumbed down? He was in his most powerful suit

Originally posted by FrothByte
Here's a problem:

Thor and IM were dumbed down when they fought Thanos in Endgame.

Wonder Woman seemed dumbed down when she fought Ares and Steppenwolf.

If WW fights as straight forward as she did against Steppenwolf, then the DC team loses.

If she shows a bit of creativity, even just to the extent she fought DD, then they have a chance. Not a sure shot, but at least a chance.

If she fought to the best of her abilities and actually use her superspeed the way she never used against a decent opponent, then she should be able to solo.


Long story short: On paper, the DC team should win. But based on feats, Thanos wins.

About that last sentence, feats also show Thanos is a lot slower, though.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Hows was IM dumbed down? He was in his most powerful suit

He could have just stayed in the air and bombarded Thanos with artillery from a distance. Thanos has no long distance weaponry, he wouldn't have had anything to fight back with.

Tony Stark is supposed to be a genius, yet for some reason he didn't think of this very basic strategy?

Thanos takes care of business and it's not even funny... shazam isn't a threat....arthur nor diana have the stats

Originally posted by FrothByte
He could have just stayed in the air and bombarded Thanos with artillery from a distance. Thanos has no long distance weaponry, he wouldn't have had anything to fight back with.

Tony Stark is supposed to be a genius, yet for some reason he didn't think of this very basic strategy?


Tbf he didnt even do that against Captain America. So perhaps thats just how he fights in character. War Machine is much smarter in combat

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Tbf he didnt even do that against Captain America. So perhaps thats just how he fights in character. War Machine is much smarter in combat

I assumed that was because he didn't want to kill Rogers. I mean, bombarding Cap with missiles and lasers from a distance is not a tactic you'd use when you're only trying to restrain someone.

Originally posted by FrothByte
He could have just stayed in the air and bombarded Thanos with artillery from a distance. Thanos has no long distance weaponry, he wouldn't have had anything to fight back with.

Tony Stark is supposed to be a genius, yet for some reason he didn't think of this very basic strategy?

Nothing IM had in his arsenal even scratched him, he could have done that all day till he ran out of ammo and power and it wouldn't have done a single thing to him.

Not a single rocket or laser he hit Thanos with scratched him.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Nothing IM had in his arsenal even scratched him, he could have done that all day till he ran out of ammo and power and it wouldn't have done a single thing to him.

Not a single rocket or laser he hit Thanos with scratched him.

Only when he had the IG. He doesn't have the IG this time around so IM wouldn't know whether his arsenal would affect him or not. At the very least, it would have been a far more effective plan of attack than getting close to him.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I assumed that was because he didn't want to kill Rogers. I mean, bombarding Cap with missiles and lasers from a distance is not a tactic you'd use when you're only trying to restrain someone.


Sure he could use KO blasts at him from a distance.

That said even War Machine went up close to CA in an effort to try and restrain him. And we know thats not how WM usually fights.

Originally posted by FrothByte
At the very least, it would have been a far more effective plan of attack than getting close to him.


Definitely would be.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Only when he had the IG. He doesn't have the IG this time around so IM wouldn't know whether his arsenal would affect him or not. At the very least, it would have been a far more effective plan of attack than getting close to him.

The gauntlet never enhanced his durability at any time.

Stark has nothing in his arsenal to hurt Thanos, there is nothing he could do.

Tony dropped a large building on him and it did nothing.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
The gauntlet never enhanced his durability at any time.

Stark has nothing in his arsenal to hurt Thanos, there is nothing he could do.

Tony dropped a large building on him and it did nothing.

Is that confirmed anywhere? Were the Avengers 100% sure of that? Guess you also missed the part where Thanos was using the IG to block and counter IM's ranged attacks.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Hows was IM dumbed down? He was in his most powerful suit Froth is a troll whose go to is ignoring evidence but the irony is he demands you post some so he can ignore it.

Originally posted by FrothByte
He could have just stayed in the air and bombarded Thanos with artillery from a distance. Thanos has no long distance weaponry, he wouldn't have had anything to fight back with.

Tony Stark is supposed to be a genius, yet for some reason he didn't think of this very basic strategy? Why would he not throw the sword? The collateral damage might hit cap/Thor. We already see Thanos bridge Tony using a powered energy blast to close the distance and then use him as a shield from mjolnir which kod him.


It is like saying why did Superman not just safely assault Doomsday from the sky. If you ignore the facts and just script nonsense it is pointless to even entertain a debate with you.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Is that confirmed anywhere? Were the Avengers 100% sure of that? Guess you also missed the part where Thanos was using the IG to block and counter IM's ranged attacks. We see Thanos use his sword to do so. The point is made abundantly clear Tony cannot take Thanos on by himself and have even a chance to ko or defeat him in combat.

Where has the gauntlet ever been shown to amp one’s skin during combat? Half the time they were actively trying to keep his hand closed so he could not use it. Are you really this silly? You made the claim it amped his durability so the onus is on you to prove your claim.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Thanos is stronger than hulk, hulk is stronger than Aquaman, Thanos stands to one-two shot Aquaman, he was able to predict Spidermans moves through Dr. Stranges teleportations. Shazam is a noob with zero with fighting skills or training. His only challege is Diana. If you put Diana in the MCU she would not be ranked the most powerful person in the universe, not even close.

Is hulk stronger than aquaman?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Is hulk stronger than aquaman? Do you really need to ask that? Might as well say Batman is stupid and the flash is slow.

Well in a set report they said atlanteans were about as strong as kryptonians. So aquaman is only a little behind superman in terms of strength and I did see a video that calculated aquaman lifting a sub to actually be exerting more energy than hulk's leviathan punch. So I don't think it's safe to just assume hulk is stronger

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Well in a set report they said atlanteans were about as strong as kryptonians. So aquaman is only a little behind superman in terms of strength and I did see a video that calculated aquaman lifting a sub to actually be exerting more energy than hulk's leviathan punch. So I don't think it's safe to just assume hulk is stronger So do you believe Thor is stronger than Superman and AM since you are relying on feats and fan calculations only. I am sure the bias is so strong you will ignore Thors feat and the portrayal of Hulk being stronger than he is in direct comparison.

What's thors best feat? The sokovia smash amplified by vibranium and we don't really know how durable the bifrost bridge is. Also, thor is stronger than hulk. The game master had to cheat to stop thor from kicking his butt in ragnorok. And thor*in his prime) is stronger than thano. Kicked his butt in infinity war. So that's not a good metric to use for thanos vs aquaman either

So we have thor > hulk. Thanos > hulk. And aquaman > hulk. The question is how aquaman and thanos stack up

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
What's thors best feat? The sokovia smash amplified by vibranium and we don't really know how durable the bifrost bridge is. Also, thor is stronger than hulk. The game master had to cheat to stop thor from kicking his butt in ragnorok. And thor*in his prime) is stronger than thano. Kicked his butt in infinity war. So that's not a good metric to use for thanos vs aquaman either Resisting the star. Somehow we do not know all the variables to any of these feats but you nerds only try to calculate the ones that help your guy.


That is formidabilty not strength. Thor was evading his punches we see Thor has greater skill than hulk not strength or durability. Basically you are saying Thor has every advantage along with a host of powers and weapons yet he cannot beat the Hulk.


Incorrect. Thanos beat thor in Infinity War twice. Thanos beat him twice in EG. You claiming he is stronger is so ridiculous it offends me. You live in your own world where you just make things up.


AM does not possess stormbreaker and was getting his ass kicked by Steppenwolf. He got worked by BM who is just a human being with Atlantan gear. The guy possessed no super strength.

*out

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Resisting a star is also not a strength feat, but a durability feat.

In the beginning of the fight thor blocked several of hulk's attacks before activating his God mode and in the first avenger fight he caught and no showed one of hulk's punches. He even call himself the strongest avenger.

In infinity war thanos shoots his beam at thor who no sells it with stormbreaker, he then ends up with an axe in his chest and on the verge of tears. Eg thor is a joke and gets replaced with his ex he is so bad.

Aquaman beat black manta in a high tech Atlanta battle suit. Made by thos people who figured the secret to INFINITE ENERGY. Why are you using a fight aquaman won to downplay him?

He might not have stormbreaker, but he does have the king's trident. Not exactly comparable but since his old crappy one was capable of piercing steppenwolf, then I say it should be able to pierce thanks. Especially since drak's knives were also able to.

Originally posted by FrothByte
And again, IM did not utilize his arsenal or flight against Thanos to the same extent he did in IW. In other words, he was dumbed down.

To be fair, in infinity war he and Dr strnge did get a couple of hours to sit around and plan out their attacks with their team while he and the avengers were flying by the seat of their pants in end game

Originally posted by FrothByte
And again, IM did not utilize his arsenal or flight against Thanos to the same extent he did in IW. In other words, he was dumbed down.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
To be fair, in infinity war he and Dr strnge did get a couple of hours to sit around and plan out their attacks with their team while he and the avengers were flying by the seat of their pants in end game

He didn’t watch the movie or he didn’t understand what he was watching

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
To be fair, in infinity war he and Dr strnge did get a couple of hours to sit around and plan out their attacks with their team while he and the avengers were flying by the seat of their pants in end game

It doesn't take a few hours of planning to realize you can use your flight against a non-flying opponent. Besides, in IW they planned against an opponent they never faced. In Endgame, they were facing an opponent they've already fought. It shouldn't have been that hard to figure out a better plan of attack than what they did.

You have no argument just stop

Ironman already flew around and it didn’t do anything for him.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
You have no argument just stop

Ironman already flew around and it didn’t do anything for him.

So did IM use his flame thrower? His missiles? His laser?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Resisting a star is also not a strength feat, but a durability feat.

In the beginning of the fight thor blocked several of hulk's attacks before activating his God mode and in the first avenger fight he caught and no showed one of hulk's punches. He even call himself the strongest avenger.

In infinity war thanos shoots his beam at thor who no sells it with stormbreaker, he then ends up with an axe in his chest and on the verge of tears. Eg thor is a joke and gets replaced with his ex he is so bad.

Aquaman beat black manta in a high tech Atlanta battle suit. Made by thos people who figured the secret to INFINITE ENERGY. Why are you using a fight aquaman won to downplay him?

He might not have stormbreaker, but he does have the king's trident. Not exactly comparable but since his old crappy one was capable of piercing steppenwolf, then I say it should be able to pierce thanks. Especially since drak's knives were also able to. It is both he needed the strength and durability to resist. If his muscles could not resist he would be blown away. If you have no idea how the human body works and braces for impact you should not be in this debate.

Thor also said he won easily and often exaggerates. Hulk is the strongest avenger and the only one strong enough to survive using the gauntlet.




Thor catches him off guard by stunning a energy barraged Thanos since he just put the last stone on. The energy hurts when the stones are all present. We see it start to hurt Hulk and cap just by putting it on. So Thor has that going, him distracted, a cheapshot and a momentum and all out hurl of the axe. The energy shot by the stones it went through. That does not make it more powerful than the stones just more powerful than the blast used with the momentum thrown at Thanos. Just as Tony Stark deflects a power stone blast with his shield. That doesn not make it more powerful than the blast just resistant enough to deflect the blast hurled at it.


And game store is not a joke. That version of Thor went up against an able bodied and prepared Thanos. So the difference clearly was that in this situation Thanos was not distracted and worn down by the energy of combining all infinity stones.


So what you are saying is that his human strength is not even important? Tech matters yes but so does strength. This is why when Iron Man goes toe to toe with Thanos we see who is clearly stronger when they lock horns. We saw no major strength edge there. You were just basing aqua mans strength on feeds that you not match how the characters portrayed in this franchise.


That was made years ago by the first king. So the armor has no relevance here since it was created by people far later than those that originally stumbled upon that. The armor does not possess infinite energy so what is your point? You have none. You were desperate. You are ridiculous. You troll.



The trailer does not have the seats to support that it is comparable to storm breaker. Thanos has the skill and the ability to dodge anyways. We see him not even take a storm breaker swing even without a weapon. He is armed here and will make shirt work of AM who was clearly outmatched by Steppenwolf.

Originally posted by FrothByte
It doesn't take a few hours of planning to realize you can use your flight against a non-flying opponent. Besides, in IW they planned against an opponent they never faced. In Endgame, they were facing an opponent they've already fought. It shouldn't have been that hard to figure out a better plan of attack than what they did. The facts do not matter hence why debating with you truly is pointless. If flying was so easy why did Superman not just fly above Doomsday?

Thor in IW undoubtedly had the top tier mainstream comic book movie strength feat until Captain Marvel came along. She is the only challenger to Hemsworth's star forging feats. Don't know why anyone is questioning IW Thor at this point.

Whether he was out of his prime due to being fat or it made no difference having a massive beer and skittles gut in Endgame, Thanos whipped the tar out of him regardless. And yes, Stark and Thor's tactics were questionable to me, but it goes back to how this fight plays out: if the DC trio tries to duke it out with weapons and fisticuffs, things don't look too good unless Billy is strong enough to box with Thanos. Shazam is the wildcard, as we've seen how Aquaman and Wonder Woman struggle against the big bad 9 foot tall supervillain types in Steppenwolf.

So showing aquaman winning against black manta is a bad showing because it's just a guy in a super suit, but hulk getting punched out by iron man is fine I guess

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
So showing aquaman winning against black manta is a bad showing because it's just a guy in a super suit, but hulk getting punched out by iron man is fine I guess We see just a normal iron man suit was not good enough. He had to create an even bigger suit that hulk was ripping apart mid combat. Both that set of armor and hulk are a lot stronger and more impressive than BM and AM.

Thor has his confidence back pre Thanos fight confirmed in the commentary of the film. When Thanos came back he emerged with that sense of heroic purpose fixated on stopping him.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
So showing aquaman winning against black manta is a bad showing because it's just a guy in a super suit, but hulk getting punched out by iron man is fine I guess

Ya agreed, I mean Aquaman has the sub lifting feat, getting hit with a 203 grenade round to no ill effect besides giving a comic relief "Ow", and taking a small island-busting blast to the chest from BM's suit. And falling out of a plane and being just fine.