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In the latest episode of What if?, we got to see how Age of Ultron should have turned out on the big screen. Infinity Ultron is now the ultimo hombre/the last man standing in terms of strongest on-screen comic book villains, with going through the multiverse to fight Uatu, eating a galaxy, and quite literally one-shotting five gem Thanos . So, how does he do against the remaining OP superheroes in their universes? This is a round robin, not a gauntlet, so Ultron auto heals and goes on to the next opponent if he can't best the previous one. Feel free to suggest who would beat him as well if this floats no one's boat.

- Homelander
- The Utopian
- Omni-man
- Michael Jai White Spawn
- Ancient One
- Steppenwolf
- Hela
- Dormammu
- DCEU Superman
- Metro Man
- Apocalypse Magneto
- Apocalypse
- Doctor Manhattan
Final round: Chris Reeve Superman

Manhattan, easily.

Metroman and Superman easily (speed to take gems away)
Apoc using tk to take gems (but he has to be fast or he loses)
Dr. Manhattan probably

I dont think any of them beat him

He destroys everyone without superspeed. Even guys like Dormammu or Manhattan weren't multiverse destroyers like Ultron was.

But those with superspeed can be a bit tricky. They can potentially snatch a stone or two before Ultron can react, but depending on which stone they grab Ultron can potentially one- shot them right after.

Still, they might have a hope of winning assuming they know to go for the stones. Without any prior knowledge, they go down as well. Of course if Ultron has prior knowledge that he's going against speedsters, he can just use the time stone to slow them down.

None of them take him down. Ultron showed feats beyond what anyone here is capable of doing.

Originally posted by FrothByte
He destroys everyone without superspeed. Even guys like Dormammu or Manhattan weren't multiverse destroyers like Ultron was.

But those with superspeed can be a bit tricky. They can potentially snatch a stone or two before Ultron can react, but depending on which stone they grab Ultron can potentially one- shot them right after.

Still, they might have a hope of winning assuming they know to go for the stones. Without any prior knowledge, they go down as well. Of course if Ultron has prior knowledge that he's going against speedsters, he can just use the time stone to slow them down.

Good point, How would anyone even know to try and take the stones away?

Metro Man literally spent half a day soul searching and thinking about his feelings while the rest of the world stood perfectly still in time from his point of view.

Not sure how Ultron is going to handle that level of speed, considering he'd be a statue if MM decides to go fast. Ultron could one-shot him otherwise.

True, Metro Man's speed is on another level.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Good point, How would anyone even know to try and take the stones away?

Yup. Unless combatants have prior intel, they probably wouldn't know to go for the stones. But if they're all given prior intel, then Ultron can simply stop time like he did in the show.

So in the end, the speedsters have a chance but it's a pretty slim chance.

Well, technically speaking, galaxy-size Ultron has the best speed feat here, by sheer virtue of size. When he chomped down on that galaxy his head covered hundreds if not thousands of light years in the space of like a second or so. Not a single one of these characters would be able to outrun his bite through pure physical movement speed alone, based on screen feats.

That being said, his regular combat speed is well below the likes of Metro Man, for example.

Originally posted by playa1258
None of them take him down. Ultron showed feats beyond what anyone here is capable of doing.
Some can just take the gems away easily.

Originally posted by tkitna
I dont think any of them beat him

Originally posted by tkitna
I dont think any of them beat him idiot i just gave the people who can and why? Ultron had his gems taken by beings far slower than metroman and Superman.

All characters would know about the gems.

Also Ultron isnt going to defeat a single character by growing. Hes going to fight them heads up. Even if he did (he wont) then some xan still statue him well before he moved a millimeter.

Why would all characters know about the stones?

Yeah, I feel like this is fully dependent on the characters' knowledge going in.

For example, if they are given a breakdown of the Infinity Stones prior to facing Ultron(like the GotM were), then any of the combatants with enhanced speed/perceptions has the potential to remove the Stones from his armor immediately at the onset -- they'd be smart to snag the time, reality, and power stones first.

If they know nothing of the Stones going in, however, then Ultron(who can wipe out entire galaxies with a stray thought) would likely gesture all of them out of existence.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Why would all characters know about the stones?
Well some of marvel characters know about them for sure.


Why wouldn't the others know? What is the rule concerning this? Is it about the general public knowledge like in the comic vs forum? If so, then does the general public know about infinity stones? If not then it depends on the OP.

The rule concerning this is the same as it has been for years. Standard knowledge is what the general population would know. So unless you can prove that the general populace is well-versed in what the Infinity Stones are, it doesn't fall under standard knowledge

Originally posted by Silent Master
The rule concerning this is the same as it has been for years. Standard knowledge is what the general population would know. So unless you can prove that the general populace is well-versed in what the Infinity Stones are, it doesn't fall under standard knowledge I believe that you are making shit up.
Prove it. Quote the rules for this movie vs forum that says what you are saying.

Originally posted by FrothByte
He destroys everyone without superspeed. Even guys like Dormammu or Manhattan weren't multiverse destroyers like Ultron was.

Which Multiverse did he destroys?
Though he would take on these guys easily barring the Speedsters stealing the stones of course as the Time gem alone was above the abilities of Dormammu.

Originally posted by h1a8
Some can just take the gems away easily.



idiot i just gave the people who can and why? Ultron had his gems taken by beings far slower than metroman and Superman.

All characters would know about the gems.

Also Ultron isnt going to defeat a single character by growing. Hes going to fight them heads up. Even if he did (he wont) then some xan still statue him well before he moved a millimeter.

Where does the OP say anything about any of those characters having an inkling about the gems? You are seriously the most retarded person on the internet.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The rule concerning this is the same as it has been for years. Standard knowledge is what the general population would know. So unless you can prove that the general populace is well-versed in what the Infinity Stones are, it doesn't fall under standard knowledge Lol, come on H1.

The OP sets the bars and standards for the match.

There has never been any such rule that grants knowledge of each other, unless otherwise stated by the thread maker.

Well, Hela and the Ancient One would still know about the Stones. The Ancient One even lectured Banner about them in IW and Hela was able to recognise the Tesseract/Space Stone in Ragnarok. I want to say Dormammu also would, but he seemed perplexed by Strange's use of the Time Stone when they encountered each other, so he might not actually know what they are.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Well, Hela and the Ancient One would still know about the Stones. The Ancient One even lectured Banner about them in IW and Hela was able to recognise the Tesseract/Space Stone in Ragnarok. I want to say Dormammu also would, but he seemed perplexed by Strange's use of the Time Stone when they encountered each other, so he might not actually know what they are. Dormy is a dummy, he doesn't know anything. He saw that killing strange created a Loop, why didn't he just go ahead and consume earth without killing strange. It's been a while I watched it, I probably may be remembering it wrong.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
Dormy is a dummy, he doesn't know anything. He saw that killing strange created a Loop, why didn't he just go ahead and consume earth without killing strange. It's been a while I watched it, I probably may be remembering it wrong.

Strange created the loop before approaching Dormammu. So, he'd still have been stuck regardless of whether or not he attacked Strange. Also, the Time Stone is basically Dormammu's kryptonite because time is the one thing that doesn't exist in the Dark Dimension (according to what's stated in the film), so it's the one thing he had no control over.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Strange created the loop before approaching Dormammu. So, he'd still have been stuck regardless of whether or not he attacked Strange. Also, the Time Stone is basically Dormammu's kryptonite because time is the one thing that doesn't exist in the Dark Dimension (according to what's stated in the film), so it's the one thing he had no control over.
So what triggered the Loop? Or at what point did the Stone reverse tiime then?

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Originally posted by 9jaboy
So what triggered the Loop? Or at what point did the Stone reverse tiime then?

The details are unclear. There could have been multiple conditions. Dr Strange told Dormammu that they were "trapped in this moment, endlessly," but doesn't elaborate more than that. But what was made clear was that Dormammu couldn't leave without Strange setting him free. Strange even refers to Dormmamu as his prisoner.

Just to add to my previous post, even if Strange had somehow left such a glaring loophole as Dormammu simply being able to leave (which contradicts his consistently displayed level of intelligence), he could have just then used the Time Stone to rewind time and bring Dormammu back to that moment anyway. Basically, the moment Strange decided to actually use the Stone against Dormammu he was screwed. Because, as already mentioned, time is one thing Dormammu has no control over and thus cannot counter time manipulation.