MCU She Hulk vs. Colossus
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ShadowFyre
Trailers alone say she tosses him around like a ragdoll
Psychotron
She got knocked out by one-armed Smart Hulk.
BruceSkywalker
will judge after i see the episode
BruceSkywalker
Jen thunderclaps ftw
FrothByte
Which Colossus, DP Colossus?
He beats the crap out of her. She currently has little fight feats to prove she can hang around with Colossus. That might change as the series progresses.
h1a8
Hopefully Hulk gets his HF. Otherwise we will always suck to me
Psychotron
Originally posted by h1a8
Hopefully Hulk gets his HF. Otherwise we will always suck to me
He doesn't. He needed her blood to heal his arm.
Arachnid1
Originally posted by FrothByte
Which Colossus, DP Colossus?
He beats the crap out of her. She currently has little fight feats to prove she can hang around with Colossus. That might change as the series progresses. Agreed. She didn't really do that well against a smart hulk who was holding back considerably.
h1a8
Originally posted by Psychotron
He doesn't. He needed her blood to heal his arm.
Of course his arm healed because of her blood. Everyone knows that duh
He doesn't what?
Psychotron
Originally posted by h1a8
Of course his arm healed because of her blood. Everyone knows that duh
He doesn't what?
Originally posted by h1a8
He doesn't what?
Have a healing factor.
Nuke Nixon
Originally posted by FrothByte
Which Colossus, DP Colossus?
He beats the crap out of her. She currently has little fight feats to prove she can hang around with Colossus. That might change as the series progresses.
The Colossus that got his dick knocked in the dirt by Angel Dust?
Shulkie catches his punches and swings him into whatever is around.
FrothByte
Originally posted by Nuke Nixon
The Colossus that got his dick knocked in the dirt by Angel Dust?
Shulkie catches his punches and swings him into whatever is around.
Angel Dust is a trained combatant. She Hulk is a very strong lawyer with zero combat experience except for wrestling it up with her cousin who was clearly taking it easy on her.
Nuke Nixon
Originally posted by FrothByte
Angel Dust is a trained combatant. She Hulk is a very strong lawyer with zero combat experience except for wrestling it up with her cousin who was clearly taking it easy on her.
Hmm, bad comparision, point conceded. You win this round.
*shaking fist*
NemeBro
Originally posted by FrothByte
Angel Dust is a trained combatant. She Hulk is a very strong lawyer with zero combat experience except for wrestling it up with her cousin who was clearly taking it easy on her. Who gives a shit about skill? What are She-Hulk's physicals? If she is even a third as strong as her cousin she would manhandle Colossus.
h1a8
Originally posted by NemeBro
Who gives a shit about skill? What are She-Hulk's physicals? If she is even a third as strong as her cousin she would manhandle Colossus. Well it's only been 1 episode and she didn't show a greater strength than Colossus by feats so far.
Impediment
As of right now, Colossus.
tkitna
She Hulk will be far above Colossus by the end of the show. By the leaps and thunderclaps, I think she already is.
Psychotron
Originally posted by NemeBro
What are She-Hulk's physicals?
Lesser than a one-armed Smart Hulk.
ShadowFyre
I don't remember Angel Dust showing any skill whatsoever. She was just faster.
h1a8
Originally posted by tkitna
She Hulk will be far above Colossus by the end of the show. By the leaps and thunderclaps, I think she already is. speculation
ShadowFyre
She is undoubtedly faster, more agile.
And I just rewatched the Colossus versus angel dust fight. Angel dust Seemed more skilled than Colossus but she wasn't a highly skilled combatant. Colossus is literally just a s*** fighter in the first movie. What he does and he does well is rely on his durability to get him through the day. And then he showed some skill when fighting juggernaut but Colossus is still a slow moving mother f***** way slower than juggernaut and She-Hulk is going to dance circles around him
tkitna
Originally posted by h1a8
speculation
Not really. What has Colossus done thats so impressive? He was going to lose to Angel Dust until Mega Buzzcut Teenage Whatever her name stepped in and he was going to lose to Juggernaut until a silly plot induced electrical wire was shoved up his rear end. She-Hulk was tossing boulders with one arm, leaping for long distances, hurting The Hulk with thunderclaps, and one shotted Titania. That was only the first episode and theres many more to come.
Its damn near certain she's going to have more feats that are more impressive than Colossus.
h1a8
Originally posted by tkitna
Not really. What has Colossus done thats so impressive? He was going to lose to Angel Dust until Mega Buzzcut Teenage Whatever her name stepped in and he was going to lose to Juggernaut until a silly plot induced electrical wire was shoved up his rear end. She-Hulk was tossing boulders with one arm, leaping for long distances, hurting The Hulk with thunderclaps, and one shotted Titania. That was only the first episode and theres many more to come.
Its damn near certain she's going to have more feats that are more impressive than Colossus. We go by feats. So far his strength feats are better. We have no idea how strong Titania is. The boulder feat is shit. Jumping has nothing to do with anything as Hulk has always been able to jump further than his superiors (jumping is more about quick twitch fibers anyway). We have no idea what strength feats She Hulk will have.
But for now he wins
Note : DP has superhuman strength and durability. He broke his hands and foot on Colossus. Colossus didn't even flinch.
tkitna
Originally posted by h1a8
We go by feats. So far his strength feats are better.
Note : DP has superhuman strength and durability. He broke his hands and foot on Colossus. Colossus didn't even flinch.
What strength feats does he have that are so impressive? He threw a tire I guess.
Good lord. DP is an upper street level hero with an otherworldly healing factor. He's not even on Cap or Spidermans level and I doubt either of those two could harm Colossus either. Colossus is durable as hell, but his strength feats havent been all that.
tkitna
Originally posted by h1a8
The boulder feat is shit. Jumping has nothing to do with anything as Hulk has always been able to jump further than his superiors (jumping is more about quick twitch fibers anyway). We have no idea what strength feats She Hulk will have.
I doubt Colossus could duplicate the boulder feat.
Doesnt leg strength have something to do with jumping (quick twitch fibers,,,,Jesus, Mary, and Joesph)? There's a reason Hulk jumps further than others. Its not hard to understand why.
h1a8
Originally posted by tkitna
I doubt Colossus could duplicate the boulder feat.
Doesnt leg strength have something to do with jumping (quick twitch fibers,,,,Jesus, Mary, and Joesph)? There's a reason Hulk jumps further than others. Its not hard to understand why.
Thanos is stronger than Hulk but can't jump nowhere near as far.
Thor is not that much weaker than Hulk and can't jump even a fraction of the distance Hulk can jump. Jumping distance doesn't scale well to actual strength when it comes to Hulk.
A 1 ton Boulder? Really? Colossus can't toss a 1 ton Boulder 100-200 ft? Really? Damn you are bias as hell.
tkitna
Originally posted by h1a8
Thanos is stronger than Hulk but can't jump nowhere near as far.
Thor is not that much weaker than Hulk and can't jump even a fraction of the distance Hulk can jump. Jumping distance doesn't scale well to actual strength when it comes to Hulk.
A 1 ton Boulder? Really? Colossus can't toss a 1 ton Boulder 100-200 ft? Really? Damn you are bias as hell.
Show me the examples of when Thanos and Thor jumped. Thor has flight and Thanos teleports for cripes sake. How do you know they cant jump near as far?
I'm sure Colossus can throw a 1 ton boulder. Do I think he can do it with one hand or a flick of the wrist? Nope. He hasent done anything to prove he can. Talk about speculation.
ShadowFyre
Thor jumps all the time and quite far. Rewatch Ragnarok escape scene. But he only jumps to where his opponents are. Hulks only means of travel is jumping.
Lol@ using Deadpool as an example of Colossus durability and not Juggernaut
Slapping him with a ****ing school bus. Stellar choice.
That's like using the Juggs vs. Deadpool over Juggs vs. Colossus to establish what Juggs can do.
FrothByte
H1 is not incorrect. Jumping is an explosive action and is more neuromuscular than it is musculoskeletal. In other words, it has more to do with how your body can harness energy rather than the muscular strength in your legs. Obviously leg strength will still play a part in it, but you'll notice that simply increasing the weight you can squat generally has minimal (if any) impact in your jumping height.
We saw Thanos jump in the battle of Titan. Thor jumped in Ragnarok. Both superhuman jumps but neither anywhere near what Hulk can do.
h1a8
Originally posted by tkitna
Show me the examples of when Thanos and Thor jumped. Thor has flight and Thanos teleports for cripes sake. How do you know they cant jump near as far?
I'm sure Colossus can throw a 1 ton boulder. Do I think he can do it with one hand or a flick of the wrist? Nope. He hasent done anything to prove he can. Talk about speculation.
Thor has jumped several times. Thanos has jumped at least once. Again nowhere near as far as Hulk.
But here's the kicker I didn't need to. In comics Hulk can jump further than beings that is a peer or superior in strength (Juggernaut, etc). That alone tells you can't scale Hulks strength to others by comparing their jumping ability.
DP can lift at least 1 ton based off his fears and Colossus is astronomically stronger than him.
If you think 1 ton isn't a feather to Colossus then you are extremely bias and need to re-watch all his scenes. You will then get the sense that 1 ton is a paperweight to him.
I've never even heard anyone lowball Colossus to the point that he can't lift 1 ton with extreme ease.
h1a8
Originally posted by FrothByte
H1 is not incorrect. Jumping is an explosive action and is more neuromuscular than it is musculoskeletal. In other words, it has more to do with how your body can harness energy rather than the muscular strength in your legs. Obviously leg strength will still play a part in it, but you'll notice that simply increasing the weight you can squat generally has minimal (if any) impact in your jumping height.
We saw Thanos jump in the battle of Titan. Thor jumped in Ragnarok. Both superhuman jumps but neither anywhere near what Hulk can do. How am I incorrect? You can't judge how strong Hulk is in comparison to other characters by comparing their jumping distances.
It does not work that way for Hulk. Otherwise Thanos would be a lot weaker. And Thor would be astronomically weaker (which he's not).
FrothByte
Originally posted by h1a8
How am I incorrect? You can't judge how strong Hulk is in comparison to other characters by comparing their jumping distances.
It does not work that way for Hulk. Otherwise Thanos would be a lot weaker. And Thor would be astronomically weaker (which he's not).
Dude, I said you're NOT incorrect. I was actually defending you.
Darth Thor
Originally posted by NemeBro
Who gives a shit about skill? What are She-Hulk's physicals? If she is even a third as strong as her cousin she would manhandle Colossus.
And what if Colossus is even a third as strong as Juggernaut?
Seemed closer to half his strength in their fight IIRC.
NemeBro
Originally posted by Darth Thor
And what if Colossus is even a third as strong as Juggernaut?
Seemed closer to half his strength in their fight IIRC. Oh well let me amend my statement: if She-Hulk is a third as strong as her cousin she would manhandle Colossus and Juggernaut at the same time.

Psychotron
Originally posted by NemeBro
Oh well let me amend my statement: if She-Hulk is a third as strong as her cousin she would manhandle Colossus and Juggernaut at the same time.
Her cousin manhandled her while crippled, so that's unlikely.
Darth Thor
Shes no where near as strong as Smart Hulk. Presumably hes not as strong as Savage, given the whole strength increases with rage.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Oh well let me amend my statement: if She-Hulk is a third as strong as her cousin she would manhandle Colossus and Juggernaut at the same time.
She has a loooong way to go before she proves herself to be on Juggernauts level.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Dude, I said you're NOT incorrect. I was actually defending you.
Lmao
Target X
Yes. She has potential. Thunderclapping and throwing boulder are quite impressive at the start. Think her feats will better at the end of series.
Darth Thor
Not sure what was so impressive about those thunderclaps. They were hurting Hulks ear drums is all.
Would be a good weapon against Venom though.
playa1258
Jen hasn't done anything impressive yet.
I mean holy shit are people really impressed about her throwing a boulder?
Come on, really?
FrothByte
6 episodes in and unless Jen does anything impressive in the remaining episodes, she gets stomped in this fight.
Her fight scenes in this show is just painful to watch.
tkitna
Yeah it appears I was wrong. She hasent done anything yet. Colossus stomps unless she ramps it up soon.
FrothByte
Well, after watching that finale I think it's clear that She-Hulk easily wins this match. I won't spoil anything for those who haven't watched the episode, but suffice it to say She-Hulk is now the most powerful MCU character. Heck, she could probably solo the entire DCEU.
wakkawakkawakka
Uh I decided to read internet spoilers for She Hulk and I guess Jen has Karen-Force. If true they she really might be the most powerful MCU character.
HulkIsHulk
Originally posted by FrothByte
Well, after watching that finale I think it's clear that She-Hulk easily wins this match. I won't spoil anything for those who haven't watched the episode, but suffice it to say She-Hulk is now the most powerful MCU character. Heck, she could probably solo the entire DCEU.
Via fourth wall break?
TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by FrothByte
Well, after watching that finale I think it's clear that She-Hulk easily wins this match. I won't spoil anything for those who haven't watched the episode, but suffice it to say She-Hulk is now the most powerful MCU character. Heck, she could probably solo the entire DCEU.
That finale was dumb as fuk, but I did laugh out loud when Daredevil literally just fell out of the sky because She-Hulk wanted him there.
FrothByte
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
That finale was dumb as fuk, but I did laugh out loud when Daredevil literally just fell out of the sky because She-Hulk wanted him there.
Like she said, a woman's got needs...
FrothByte
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Via fourth wall break?
Via Bullying the writers/showrunners to rewrite the show to however she pleases.
Arachnid1
Originally posted by FrothByte
Via Bullying the writers/showrunners to rewrite the show to however she pleases. Low tier reality bender now, with limits.
GG Colossus
Lestov16
Calm down folks. Her metafictional abilities are no more powerful than Doom Patrol's Mr. Nobody, which means she can be outranked
Arachnid1
Originally posted by Lestov16
Calm down folks. Her metafictional abilities are no more powerful than Doom Patrol's Mr. Nobody, which means she can be outranked I was mostly kidding. Not sure if that should actually be a part of her abilities for the purposes of the versus forum.
At the same time though, she literally took away the villains super powers and forced Abomination to turn back human and turn himself in. Kind of wild.
At the same time though, would a writers board be a part of a versus forum thread? I don't think so. We're the ones crafting the scenario in this case, and she obviously cant access our realities.
ShadowFyre
There should be a limit. Those reality/story bending feats won't suffice in a combat forum. They should only work within her universe.
1.She Hulk vs. DCEU Justice League and Monsterverse in MCU = potential win for She hulk
2. Neutral universe-everyone minus batman,cyborg and Aquaman(debateable) solos her
And I haven't watched a single actual episode. Just how it should work imo unless writers state thats part of her actual powerset?
FrothByte
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
There should be a limit. Those reality/story bending feats won't suffice in a combat forum. They should only work within her universe.
1.She Hulk vs. DCEU Justice League and Monsterverse in MCU = potential win for She hulk
2. Neutral universe-everyone minus batman,cyborg and Aquaman(debateable) solos her
And I haven't watched a single actual episode. Just how it should work imo unless writers state thats part of her actual powerset?
At the very least, she has the ability to pause a fight while she thinks things over.
For what it's worth, the 4th-wall breaks in DP were entertaining but for some reason they felt jarring in She-Hulk.
h1a8
So Colossus wins.
Also, the show sucked.
ShadowFyre
Well it would when you only watch other posters comments on it
h1a8
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Well it would when you only watch other posters comments on it Did you like the show?
If so why?
To me it was horrible, hardly any action. Just plain acting mostly.
riv6672
Originally posted by carthage
No BFR
Who wins
She-Hulk punks him.
FrothByte
Originally posted by h1a8
Did you like the show?
If so why?
To me it was horrible, hardly any action. Just plain acting mostly.
One of the few times I actually agree with h1.
Darth Thor
Originally posted by FrothByte
Well, after watching that finale I think it's clear that She-Hulk easily wins this match. I won't spoil anything for those who haven't watched the episode, but suffice it to say She-Hulk is now the most powerful MCU character. Heck, she could probably solo the entire DCEU.
Uggh I saw this and was looking forward to seeing what she could do in the finale.
Then I saw the damn finale.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
That finale was dumb as fuk, but I did laugh out loud when Daredevil literally just fell out of the sky because She-Hulk wanted him there.
If im being honest I did laugh out loud at the Kevin reveal.
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