Metro Man vs Justice League Superman

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carver9
Who's taking this? Superman, current version, get his solo movie fts as well.

KingD19
The entire League gets schwacked in I'd say under 30 seconds. We all know how fast Metro Man is considering he spent hours in his time screwing around eating lunch, flying a kite, reading several books, etc... before coming back and setting up his death with a fake skeleton.

He was moving so fast the entire city was frozen in time, including kites in the air and food falling from a tray. Thousands of people at the very least were also absolutely still while he was in "Rainbow Mode". He even saw the orbital death ray which took 2, maybe 3 seconds for it to hit the observatory from space in slow motion. And only after the death ray was superheating the dome did he fly off to a nursing school, take the skeleton, put his cape on it, then come back and fake his death. He did all that in the span of a few seconds max if you combine both feats.

Also, Tighten who had Metro Man's powers but not his experience, was still strong enough to slice a skyscraper in two with by digging his fist into it and flying in a circle and rather easily fly around with the whole thing on his back before throwing it. The Empire State Building for example is 250,000 tons with nothing in it so it was insanely heavy, even just the portion he chopped off.

Robtard
Carver finally found someone who can beat DCEU Superman. Well done.

h1a8
Metroman wins

NemeBro
Metro Man is faster than Superman but it genuinely doesn't really matter. He's too weak to hurt him. He'd break his arm punching a Superman who was resisting. He wouldn't be able to beat idk Thanos or Thor for the same reason.

Also, bluntly, Metro Man's feat is not as impressive as people think. It is probably well below the speed of light. Still very fast but not as fast as some have claimed.

h1a8
JL Superman was moving in relation to lightning (which moves at 1/3 the speed of light). So Metroman might be a little faster than Superman. After all Superman statued WW (who is a bullet timer).
Just know that bullets statue humans.

carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
JL Superman was moving in relation to lightning (which moves at 1/3 the speed of light). So Metroman might be a little faster than Superman. After all Superman statued WW (who is a bullet timer).
Just know that bullets statue humans.

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Robtard
Metroman spent a whole afternoon doing shit and reflecting on his own life while the world was literally like a statue from his point of view, not even a second of time seemed to pass.

People downplaying his speed need to watch Megamind again.

h1a8
Originally posted by Robtard
Metroman spent a whole afternoon doing shit and reflecting on his own life while the world was literally like a statue from his point of view, not even a second of time seemed to pass.

People downplaying his speed need to watch Megamind again.
Who downplayed his speed?

Let's look at some math.

Superman and flash were moving in relation to the lightning coming from the flash. Lightning moves at about 1/3 speed of light (many sources).

Let's assume that inside Clark's slowed down perception He throws a punch at Flash resembling 9m/s (approximately 20mph). But in reality, said punch moves at 1/4 speed of light. This means that 1/4 speed of light will appear to be 9m/s inside Superman's slowed down perception.

That would imply that an object moving at a real speed of 1m/s (all objects shown in the Metroman scene were moving no faster than that) will appear to be moving at 1.08e-6m/s inside same said slowed down perception. In turn, this would mean that for 1min inside said slowed down perception said object would will have moved less than 0.1mm. This is below human visual acuity and said object will appear to be completely frozen in time for that entire time.
Note: All objects in the Metroman scene had no more than a few seconds of screen time. So we can only speculate these seemingly frozen objects moved less than 0.1mm within 10 minutes inside Metroman's slowed down perception.

In conclusion, we can only speculate (not prove) whether or not Metroman was perceiving time any slower than Clark was.

NemeBro
Originally posted by Robtard
Metroman spent a whole afternoon doing shit and reflecting on his own life while the world was literally like a statue from his point of view, not even a second of time seemed to pass.

People downplaying his speed need to watch Megamind again. How fast does that feat make Metro Man?

Give me a number. Mach 1,000? The speed of light? Where do you clock Metro Man?

carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
Who downplayed his speed?

Let's look at some math.

Superman and flash were moving in relation to the lightning coming from the flash. Lightning moves at about 1/3 speed of light (many sources).

Let's assume that inside Clark's slowed down perception He throws a punch at Flash resembling 9m/s (approximately 20mph). But in reality, said punch moves at 1/4 speed of light. This means that 1/4 speed of light will appear to be 9m/s inside Superman's slowed down perception.

That would imply that an object moving at a real speed of 1m/s (all objects shown in the Metroman scene were moving no faster than that) will appear to be moving at 1.08e-6m/s inside same said slowed down perception. In turn, this would mean that for 1min inside said slowed down perception said object would will have moved less than 0.1mm. This is below human visual acuity and said object will appear to be completely frozen in time for that entire time.
Note: All objects in the Metroman scene had no more than a few seconds of screen time. So we can only speculate these seemingly frozen objects moved less than 0.1mm within 10 minutes inside Metroman's slowed down perception.

In conclusion, we can only speculate (not prove) whether or not Metroman was perceiving time any slower than Clark was.

Superman was a statue when Flash went the speed of light. Let's not even pretend he's anywhere close to those speeds.

carver9
Originally posted by NemeBro
Metro Man is faster than Superman but it genuinely doesn't really matter. He's too weak to hurt him. He'd break his arm punching a Superman who was resisting. He wouldn't be able to beat idk Thanos or Thor for the same reason.

Also, bluntly, Metro Man's feat is not as impressive as people think. It is probably well below the speed of light. Still very fast but not as fast as some have claimed.

Someone with Metroman powers were throwing skyscrapers across the city. Namek and Faoro, beings who doesn't have anywhere near the fts was hurting Clark.

Thinkerer
Who the hell is Metroman?

DeadpoolXXX
Originally posted by Robtard
Metroman spent a whole afternoon doing shit and reflecting on his own life while the world was literally like a statue from his point of view, not even a second of time seemed to pass.

People downplaying his speed need to watch Megamind again. All of this can be accomplished while moving well below the speed of light though.

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
Someone with Metroman powers were throwing skyscrapers across the city. Namek and Faoro, beings who doesn't have anywhere near the fts was hurting Clark.

Namek exerted more than 10000 tons of force when he threw the locomotive. I'm pretty sure that piece of the building weighed less than that.

h1a8
Originally posted by NemeBro
How fast does that feat make Metro Man?

Give me a number. Mach 1,000? The speed of light? Where do you clock Metro Man? Objects with speed of 1m/s or less that moved less than 0.1mm within 5 seconds of his perception means he was moving at a small fraction of light speed at the least.
I'll do a calculation later.

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
Superman was a statue when Flash went the speed of light. Let's not even pretend he's anywhere close to those speeds.
Superman was a statue when Flash first ran around him. Superman came out of the statue state.

Plus there is a such thing as fiction inconsistency. Characters don't always operate at the same level in every scene.

h1a8
Here is a calculation of Metroman's minimum walking speed.

Fact1: 0.1mm is the limit of human visual acuity. That means it is impossible to tell, with the naked eye, a displacement of 0.1mm or less. In other words, an object that displaces a distance of 0.1mm or less would appear as it didn't move at all. Hence a statue.

Fact2: All objects in the Metroman scene were moving with a real speed of less than 1m/s.

Fact3: No object was shown more than 5 seconds of Metroman's perspective (screen time).

Now Let's find Metroman minimum speed.
Assume the fastest moving object in all the scenes with real speed of 1m/s that traveled 0.1mm during a total of 5 seconds it was shown on screen (Metroman's perspective). No object was shown with more than 5 seconds of screen time.

Normally the object will have moved 5m in 5 seconds. So 5m/0.1mm = 50,000 times scale factor. So everything Metroman does in human speed in this state can be multiplied by 50,000 to get his minimum speed.

For example, Assuming 3mph is average walking speed then Metroman was walking around at 3x50,000mph or 150,000 Mph.
Speed of sound is 767mph.
So 150,000/767 = Mach 196 is HIS MINIMUM walking SPEED.

Note : His maximum speed cannot be proven and is only speculation.

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NemeBro
Originally posted by carver9
Someone with Metroman powers were throwing skyscrapers across the city. Namek and Faoro, beings who doesn't have anywhere near the fts was hurting Clark. His skyscraper feat was less than 60,000 tons.

This is in fact worse than Aquaman pushing a submarine to the ocean's surface in seconds. It is much worse than the at minimum millions of tons of pressure on Superman's shoulders during the World Engine scene, or Superman being able to destroy the World Engine (which destroyed a nearby mountain upon arrival through its sheer bulk) by overpowering it and flying through it despite the fact that during both of these feats he was being weakened. And of course it is many many orders of magnitude below shifting a tectonic plate.

Metro Man has zero feats suggesting he could replicate any of this. He is so much weaker than Clark that he has zero hope of putting him down, especially since in full sunlight as seen in BvS he can heal from dying and deprived of sunlight to near full the moment the sun hits him.

Clark either wins or stalemate if Metro Man never lets Clark hit him.

carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
Superman was a statue when Flash first ran around him. Superman came out of the statue state.

Plus there is a such thing as fiction inconsistency. Characters don't always operate at the same level in every scene.

No, he was a statue when Flash actually went light speeds. He wasn't going anywhere near that during his fight against Superman. Nowhere near

carver9
Originally posted by NemeBro
His skyscraper feat was less than 60,000 tons.

This is in fact worse than Aquaman pushing a submarine to the ocean's surface in seconds. It is much worse than the at minimum millions of tons of pressure on Superman's shoulders during the World Engine scene, or Superman being able to destroy the World Engine (which destroyed a nearby mountain upon arrival through its sheer bulk) by overpowering it and flying through it despite the fact that during both of these feats he was being weakened. And of course it is many many orders of magnitude below shifting a tectonic plate.

Metro Man has zero feats suggesting he could replicate any of this. He is so much weaker than Clark that he has zero hope of putting him down, especially since in full sunlight as seen in BvS he can heal from dying and deprived of sunlight to near full the moment the sun hits him.

Clark either wins or stalemate if Metro Man never lets Clark hit him.

Lmmfao at the world engine ft and Aquaman isn't lifting skyscrapers. Same Superman struggled with an oil ridge and no, there isn't a shed of proof that he became stronger afterwards. The only improvement he gained was flight which helped him lift the apartment buindling and helped him fly through the lame ass world engine ft.

h1a8
Originally posted by NemeBro
Clark either wins or stalemate if Metro Man never lets Clark hit him.

Metroman is not as fast as we thought. I calculated his minimum speed needed to achieve the feat.

Originally posted by h1a8
Here is a calculation of Metroman's minimum walking speed.

Fact1: 0.1mm is the limit of human visual acuity. That means it is impossible to tell, with the naked eye, a displacement of 0.1mm or less. In other words, an object that displaces a distance of 0.1mm or less would appear as it didn't move at all. Hence a statue.

Fact2: All objects in the Metroman scene were moving with a real speed of less than 1m/s.

Fact3: No object was shown more than 5 seconds of Metroman's perspective (screen time).

Now Let's find Metroman minimum speed.
Assume the fastest moving object in all the scenes with real speed of 1m/s that traveled 0.1mm during a total of 5 seconds it was shown on screen (Metroman's perspective). No object was shown with more than 5 seconds of screen time.

Normally the object will have moved 5m in 5 seconds. So 5m/0.1mm = 50,000 times scale factor. So everything Metroman does in human speed in this state can be multiplied by 50,000 to get his minimum speed.

For example, Assuming 3mph is average walking speed then Metroman was walking around at 3x50,000mph or 150,000 Mph.
Speed of sound is 767mph.
So 150,000/767 = Mach 196 is HIS MINIMUM walking SPEED.



Now here's the calculation of Supeman's speed.

According to the speed of the lightning shown coming from Flash, Superman was estimated to punch at 1/4 the speed of light. Punching speed is about 6x that of walking speed. So Superman has a walking speed of 1/24 the speed of light. This is faster than Metroman.


Originally posted by carver9
No, he was a statue when Flash actually went light speeds. He wasn't going anywhere near that during his fight against Superman. Nowhere near

Carv please read better. I already posted the speed of both characters (both under the speed of light). Superman is faster. Flash moving at light speed and statueing Superman is irrelevent due to:
1. Superman was statued when Flash was moving at 1/4 the speed of light.
and
2. Fiction inconsistency (two feats that contradict) if you assume that Superman can't purposely pull himself out of statued state if he wants to.

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
Lmmfao at the world engine ft and Aquaman isn't lifting skyscrapers. Same Superman struggled with an oil ridge and no, there isn't a shed of proof that he became stronger afterwards. The only improvement he gained was flight which helped him lift the apartment buindling and helped him fly through the lame ass world engine ft.

Superman can't lift a skyscraper even though they have feats exceeding the strength needing to do so.

Good Logic Carv.

Now you can argue those feats are PIS and don't count. Therefore, they can't lift parts of skyscrapers. That would be a more rational argument than the one you just posted.

NemeBro
Originally posted by carver9
Lmmfao at the world engine ft and Aquaman isn't lifting skyscrapers. Same Superman struggled with an oil ridge and no, there isn't a shed of proof that he became stronger afterwards. The only improvement he gained was flight which helped him lift the apartment buindling and helped him fly through the lame ass world engine ft. Carver I gotta give you the honest truth man: the only reason I responded to you at all is for the benefit of other people. You're a clown and nobody on this board takes you seriously. Basically an h1 with better social skills who at least doesn't pretend to know math and science but who reps the opposite characters. Sorry if I made you think I was engaging your posts like you were an individual worth responding to. You don't often see me respond to h1 for the same reason.

carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
Metroman is not as fast as we thought. I calculated his minimum speed needed to achieve the feat.





Now here's the calculation of Supeman's speed.

According to the speed of the lightning shown coming from Flash, Superman was estimated to punch at 1/4 the speed of light. Punching speed is about 6x that of walking speed. So Superman has a walking speed of 1/24 the speed of light. This is faster than Metroman.




Carv please read better. I already posted the speed of both characters (both under the speed of light). Superman is faster. Flash moving at light speed and statueing Superman is irrelevent due to:
1. Superman was statued when Flash was moving at 1/4 the speed of light.
and
2. Fiction inconsistency (two feats that contradict) if you assume that Superman can't purposely pull himself out of statued state if he wants to.

Proof that Superman can pull himself out of statue mode with Flash going at his fastest. I want to see proof.

carver9
Originally posted by NemeBro
Carver I gotta give you the honest truth man: the only reason I responded to you at all is for the benefit of other people. You're a clown and nobody on this board takes you seriously. Basically an h1 with better social skills who at least doesn't pretend to know math and science but who reps the opposite characters. Sorry if I made you think I was engaging your posts like you were an individual worth responding to. You don't often see me respond to h1 for the same reason.

Concession accepted.

carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
Superman can't lift a skyscraper even though they have feats exceeding the strength needing to do so.

Good Logic Carv.

Now you can argue those feats are PIS and don't count. Therefore, they can't lift parts of skyscrapers. That would be a more rational argument than the one you just posted.

What fts exceeds that?

NemeBro
Originally posted by carver9
Concession accepted. https://i.imgur.com/N6Hdyhy.gif

-Pr-
Carver, I know you don't read Superman comics, but I thought you would have taken the time to at least watch one of his movies.

carver9
Originally posted by -Pr-
Carver, I know you don't read Superman comics, but I thought you would have taken the time to at least watch one of his movies.

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