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Ragnarok Hulk with weapons
Namor is at full power with his spear

Who wins

Bane dies.

Even at full power, Namor is not Hulk's match in strength. Although he is stupidly fast with his wings, Hulk has shown insane reflexes multiple times over the years so it's not like he couldn't hit him. A solid hit with that hammer will put him down for the count. At the same time though, if he is ruthless enough to go for Hulk's heart or head, he could get a lucky hit and take him out. But if he stabs him and that spear doesn't incapacitate or kill him immediately, then Hulk will punish him for it.

Hard to say, Namor hasnt really fought anyone with real strength yet. I have no doubt he belongs among the powerhouses in the MCU, but still its hard to judge how he compared to Hulk or Thor.

He's definitely up there, but like you said he's had no actual physical challenge yet. From what we've seen though, his strength plus his flight help him pull off a lot, but he's never tried to deal with someone Hulk-strong. Just moved some vehicles and heavy things and knocked around some street-level opponents (M'Baku and Shuri) who were nowhere near his level. But we do know Hulk has dealt with stronger than Namor.

Considering Namor is on par with Hulk's strength going by spoken dialog, he's faster, a more skilled fighter, can fly and has a weapon that absolutely can pierce the Hulk, it's his fight to lose.

Hulk tears his head off. Healing factor and all is just too much for Namor.

^ What healing factor? I thought the MCU hasn't shown that yet. He needed She-Hulk's blood to heal his arm.

As for Namor, I agree we don't have enough to judge his level right now. He doesn't have the showings to say he's Hulk or Thor's equal in strength. But the Director claimed he is that strong.

Originally posted by Robtard
Considering Namor is on par with Hulk's strength going by spoken dialog, he's faster, a more skilled fighter, can fly and has a weapon that absolutely can pierce the Hulk, it's his fight to lose.

Actually this is a good argument for Namor even if hes not as strong as the Hulk. Because he clearly has tremendous strength regardless and his spear is Vibranium.

The problem I think is that Namor still doesn't have enough feats to prove he can hang with Hulk. I mean, what were his most impressive feats?

Originally posted by Robtard
Considering Namor is on par with Hulk's strength going by spoken dialog, he's faster, a more skilled fighter, can fly and has a weapon that absolutely can pierce the Hulk, it's his fight to lose.

But we can't consider Namor is on par with Hulk's strength because he has no feats to do so. Therefore he isn't on par with Hulk's strength. Hulk is far stronger and more durable. I would say one or two good hits will down Namor.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Actually this is a good argument for Namor even if hes not as strong as the Hulk. Because he clearly has tremendous strength regardless and his spear is Vibranium.

He doesn't have tremendous strength in comparison to Hulk.
Only to a human he does.

Originally posted by FrothByte
The problem I think is that Namor still doesn't have enough feats to prove he can hang with Hulk. I mean, what were his most impressive feats?

Tearing up Wakandan ships I guess.


Originally posted by h1a8
But we can't consider Namor is on par with Hulk's strength because he has no feats to do so. Therefore he isn't on par with Hulk's strength. Hulk is far stronger and more durable. I would say one or two good hits will down Namor.

It was Director's intention (your favourite logic).

And not made up intentions like you give us. But from the Director's mouth. So no idea why you'd argue it.

Close matchup, if Hulk snags Namor, Namor gets ragdolled for a KO, but I'm going with Namor: greater mobility, vibranium spear, plenty in the strength department himself, and tore down Wakandan ships out of the air in a dogfight.

I cant see the Hulk losing to Shuri.

Shuri is a woman. Of course Hulk would lose.

Originally posted by h1a8
But we can't consider Namor is on par with Hulk's strength because he has no feats to do so. Therefore he isn't on par with Hulk's strength. Hulk is far stronger and more durable. I would say one or two good hits will down Namor.

It seems like you didn't pay attention again.

Originally posted by h1a8
But we can't consider Namor is on par with Hulk's strength because he has no feats to do so. Therefore he isn't on par with Hulk's strength. Hulk is far stronger and more durable. I would say one or two good hits will down Namor.

Literally said on screen that Namor's strength is comparable to the Hulk's. As you say "writer's intent".

Originally posted by Robtard

Literally said on screen that Namor's strength is comparable to the Hulk's. As you say "writer's intent".

Director also said it himself. Which makes his "intentions" kinda clear. Although I think he said "as strong as Thor or Hulk". But can't be arsed googling right now.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Tearing up Wakandan ships I guess.




It was Director's intention (your favourite logic).

And not made up intentions like you give us. But from the Director's mouth. So no idea why you'd argue it.
Writer's intent is irrelevant in cases where we argue feats and onscreen showings.If a character fails to exert X amount of force using all their might then they simply can't.

Spite thread. Hulk one shots Namor

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Director also said it himself. Which makes his "intentions" kinda clear. Although I think he said "as strong as Thor or Hulk". But can't be arsed googling right now.

Makes sense the director would say it as well considering it was written into the story line and they made a point of it.

MCU Namor's at least as strong as the Hulk, possibly Thor, and the dude doesn't even lift. Impressive, that.

To be fair, the director of Shang-Chi also said that he's as strong as Thor or Hulk by the time he has the Ten Rings at the end of his solo film. Comparing new characters to Hulk and Thor seems to be a thing MCU directors like to do as a power level indicator. So, that in and of itself isn't the best evidence.

However, IIRC, M'Baku outright states in the film that Namor has strength comparable to the Hulk, which adds weight to the director's words in this specific instance.

M'Baku said it so the viewers would know what threat-level Wakanda was facing.

Considering how easily Namor tore through vibraniim ships with his vibranium spear, when Black Panther could only manage surface scratches on Cap's shield despite his own high level of strength, it stands to reason Namor is around Hulk level, maybe more.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
To be fair, the director of Shang-Chi also said that he's as strong as Thor or Hulk by the time he has the Ten Rings at the end of his solo film. Comparing new characters to Hulk and Thor seems to be a thing MCU directors like to do as a power level indicator. So, that in and of itself isn't the best evidence.

However, IIRC, M'Baku outright states in the film that Namor has strength comparable to the Hulk, which adds weight to the director's words in this specific instance.

Yeah but Mbaku has never faced the Hulk, so I don't think he's an expert on that.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yeah but Mbaku has never faced the Hulk, so I don't think he's an expert on that.

Yeah, but he did witness him in action in Endgame IIRC, and that piece of dialogue was stuck into the film for a reason, which, at least IMO, adds more weight to it than an interview comment from a director. Because, as I mentioned, that's not the only instance of an MCU director making the Hulk and Thor comparison.

Personally, I do still prioritise actual screen feats first and foremost though, and try to only really bring up stuff stated outside the film if it adds further context or explanation to something we actually see happening on screen, like the Loki stuff I posted in the other thread, or if it's in response to someone else, like here.

I think the combination of that line in the film + the director's commentary adds weight to it.

Plus feat wise he was clearly a beast that Wakanda could not deal with. Even when they recreated the heart shape herb, they still needed to work on weakness exploitation to defeat him.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I think the combination of that line in the film + the director's commentary adds weight to it.

Plus feat wise he was clearly a beast that Wakanda could not deal with. Even when they recreated the heart shape herb, they still needed to work on weakness exploitation to defeat him.

Plus, Shuri had plot armour so thick it allowed her to shrug off a getting skewered by a spear.

Guys, tearing through vibranium ships is a Hulk+ feat of strength. Namor has his own vibranium spear, which just means his weapon won't break, but he still has to exert enough force to do it.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Plus, Shuri had plot armour so thick it allowed her to shrug off a getting skewered by a spear.



Seriously I hope her being BP was just a one off. Because she had to recreate the herb and plot revolved around her family dying off one by one.

Will be seriously annoyed if she's still the BP going forward.


Originally posted by Robtard
Guys, tearing through vibranium ships is a Hulk+ feat of strength. Namor has his own vibranium spear, which just means his weapon won't break, but he still has to exert enough force to do it.

Is M'Baku's chest armour made of vibranium? If so then Namor punched right through it (no spear).

Originally posted by Darth Thor


Seriously I hope her being BP was just a one off. Because she had to recreate the herb and plot revolved around her family dying off one by one.

Will be seriously annoyed if she's still the BP going forward.


Is M'Baku's chest armour made of vibranium? If so then Namor punched right through it (no spear).


I have a feeling the next BP will be the T'Challa's son and we'll timejump when the next BP films come around.

M'Baku's armor is made Jabari wood, which is incredibly strong, enough to not be pierced or broken by a human wielding vibranium weapons. BP level strength can break it though.

But we have screenfeats of Namor tearing through vibranium.

^ Ah okay.

Originally posted by Robtard
M'Baku said it so the viewers would know what threat-level Wakanda was facing.

Considering how easily Namor tore through vibraniim ships with his vibranium spear, when Black Panther could only manage surface scratches on Cap's shield despite his own high level of strength, it stands to reason Namor is around Hulk level, maybe more.

Cap's shield is more durable than Wakanda shields.
Also this only proves that Namor is stronger than Black Panther. Bring stronger than BP doesnt mean you are as strong as Hulk.
The spear is more powerful than claws (heavier, longer blade, way more leverage to apply force, etc).

Your logic is faulty. If Namor was as strong as Hulk then he would have multiple feats showing it. He has none. All his showings CONTRADICT that.
For example, he barely was able to bust through wooden shields with a punch using all his might. Hulk using all his might would have easily killed Baku.

I meant Wakanda ships