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Can Thor dominate Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Cyborg at the same time?

Originally posted by Psychotron
Can Thor dominate Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Cyborg at the same time?

Lightning Thor probably could. Anyways, he stomps Steppenwolf.

Originally posted by tkitna
Lightning Thor probably could. Anyways, he stomps Steppenwolf.

Lightning Thor has done nothing though.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Lightning Thor has done nothing though.

Eh,,he busted the rainbow bridge with lighting, took down multitudes of Thanos's cronies, impaled Thanos with Stormbreaker (through a blast from the gauntlet), was going to take down the Hulk, blasted Hela, fought Gorr decently, etc,,. He is pretty powerful.

Originally posted by tkitna
impaled Thanos with Stormbreaker (through a blast from the gauntlet),


I think Lightning Thor is referring to Ragnarok Thor who doesn't have a weapon.

I guess he can't fly either.


Originally posted by Psychotron
Can Thor dominate Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Cyborg at the same time?

Well he almost knocked Hulk out with his first blow. So I've not seen strength feats from WW and Aquaman that compare.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well he almost knocked Hulk out with his first blow. So I've not seen strength feats from WW and Aquaman that compare.

Hulk was rocked but let's not pretend he wasn't on his feet and ready to go again.

Originally posted by tkitna
Eh,,he busted the rainbow bridge with lighting, took down multitudes of Thanos's cronies, impaled Thanos with Stormbreaker (through a blast from the gauntlet), was going to take down the Hulk, blasted Hela, fought Gorr decently, etc,,. He is pretty powerful.

Rainbow bridge isn't a big deal to me. We have no idea how durable it is. Beating cronies is irrelevant, he doesn't have Stormbreaker here, Hulk was rocked but not down, Hela was solidly superior to him, Gorr beat him. Here's a question for you, how does Thor deal with Wonder Woman's speed?

Originally posted by Psychotron
Hulk was rocked but let's not pretend he wasn't on his feet and ready to go again.





Huh? He was literally on his ass looking sleepy. Then Thor tried to talk him down giving him a chance to recover.

Not talking about the lightning shot. Talking about Thors first hit.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Hulk was rocked but let's not pretend he wasn't on his feet and ready to go again.



Rainbow bridge isn't a big deal to me. We have no idea how durable it is. Beating cronies is irrelevant, he doesn't have Stormbreaker here, Hulk was rocked but not down, Hela was solidly superior to him, Gorr beat him. Here's a question for you, how does Thor deal with Wonder Woman's speed?

Come on. If Grandmaster doesn't zap Thor, Hulk was going down.

Rainbow bridge consists of the bifrost which is a universal power. It took like 10 hits from Mjolnir before Thor could break it and his lightning did it in one shot.

Speed is troublesome, but a wide range attack from his lightning should suffice.

Originally posted by tkitna
Come on. If Grandmaster doesn't zap Thor, Hulk was going down.

Rainbow bridge consists of the bifrost which is a universal power. It took like 10 hits from Mjolnir before Thor could break it and his lightning did it in one shot.

Speed is troublesome, but a wide range attack from his lightning should suffice. Bifrost bridge has no feats. Therefore it is circular reasoning to assume it was more durable than very strong glass.

Would you say that Thor softened it up lol?

It sends people flying across space and time all over the universe it probably has a pretty high energy output.

What actual feats does steppenwolf have? Fighting the Justice League? who were all portrayed as fodder without Superman, Knocking a horse over, and being overpowered by human level parademons.

That's literally the extent of his feats. He literally didn't put up a fight at all and just got beat up once a Superman level character came into play. Thor beats the s*** out of him.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Hulk was rocked but let's not pretend he wasn't on his feet and ready to go again.



Correct.

Thorbags see only what they want to see, typical.

MCU Thor's stronger than Hulk, and more durable arguably by the end of Ragnarok, definitely by the end of Infinity War.

Thor is not and has never been portrayed as physically stronger than Thor.

His awakening at the end of Ragnarok shows he is overall superior and can now beat him without a weapon, but he has no feat that definitively places him above Hulk in terms of brute strength.

So why was Hulk so brainfarted that he couldn't even come out to deal with Thanos' minions Giant Hammer Guy and Creepy Dirt Magneto?

Furthermore, could SC Steppenwolf have ever been defeated by the JLA minus Superman ever?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Thor is not and has never been portrayed as physically stronger than Thor.

His awakening at the end of Ragnarok shows he is overall superior and can now beat him without a weapon, but he has no feat that definitively places him above Hulk in terms of brute strength.
Wouldn't the Nidavalier Rings count?

Originally posted by Nuke Nixon
So why was Hulk so brainfarted that he couldn't even come out to deal with Thanos' minions Giant Hammer Guy and Creepy Dirt Magneto?

Furthermore, could SC Steppenwolf have ever been defeated by the JLA minus Superman ever?
Pretty sure Hulk told Banner he didn't like how he used him as a hammer to smash all his problems but aside from that treated him like a monster and wouldn't let him out. So basically he wouldn't transform out of spite.

Originally posted by h1a8
Bifrost bridge has no feats. Therefore it is circular reasoning to assume it was more durable than very strong glass.

Would you say that Thor softened it up lol?

I just said it took like 10 hits from mjolnir to break it and only one blast from his lightning to do it. What does that conclude?

Very strong glass? Lol

Originally posted by tkitna
Come on. If Grandmaster doesn't zap Thor, Hulk was going down.

Rainbow bridge consists of the bifrost which is a universal power. It took like 10 hits from Mjolnir before Thor could break it and his lightning did it in one shot.

Speed is troublesome, but a wide range attack from his lightning should suffice.

Based on what? Hulk wasn't out or anything. He had no problem pouncing on Thor as we saw right after Grandmaster zapped the so-called God of Thunder.

It's not a bad feat or anything, but it doesn't mean much when Thor has never taken out any big bad with his lightning.

Wonder Woman is resistant to lightning as seen in Wonder Woman 1984. Also, this lightning spam that is brought up in forums, Thor never does it in the movies. Not against Thanos, not against Gorr, nobody.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Huh? He was literally on his ass looking sleepy. Then Thor tried to talk him down giving him a chance to recover.

Not talking about the lightning shot. Talking about Thors first hit.

You mean when Thor hit Hulk with the big hammer that Hulk had thrown at him? He wasn't out or anything.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Based on what? Hulk wasn't out or anything. He had no problem pouncing on Thor as we saw right after Grandmaster zapped the so-called God of Thunder.

It's not a bad feat or anything, but it doesn't mean much when Thor has never taken out any big bad with his lightning.

Wonder Woman is resistant to lightning as seen in Wonder Woman 1984. Also, this lightning spam that is brought up in forums, Thor never does it in the movies. Not against Thanos, not against Gorr, nobody.



You mean when Thor hit Hulk with the big hammer that Hulk had thrown at him? He wasn't out or anything.

Your right. He wasn't out, but the fight wasn't going to go his way. Grandmaster and the crowd saw that and he zapped Thor. No biggie.

Didn't Thor KO Hela for a brief moment with a lightning blast? Pretty good feat.

Still think Thor takes it. WW with her speed seems to be more of an issue than Stepponwolf, yet Stepponwolf handled her. Strange.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Also, this lightning spam that is brought up in forums, Thor never does it in the movies. Not against Thanos, not against Gorr, nobody.

Maybe because there's no need to spam them? It's not as though they were too fast to hit.

But he has shown spamming it out against an army.

Originally posted by Psychotron
You mean when Thor hit Hulk with the big hammer that Hulk had thrown at him? He wasn't out or anything.

As already stated, he was on his ass and looking sleepy. Thor chose to try and calm him down instead of potentially finishing him off.

Not sure what we're arguing here though, as we both agree Thor > Hulk. I just think it's clear Ragnarok showed that even a fist fight/pure brawl between them can be close, only as we saw if it goes on too long, Hulk definitively overpowers him.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Thor is not and has never been portrayed as physically stronger than Thor.

His awakening at the end of Ragnarok shows he is overall superior and can now beat him without a weapon, but he has no feat that definitively places him above Hulk in terms of brute strength.


Oh no, MCU Thor does have these showings: We can agree that dadbod Thor is a fair amount weaker than prime Thor, yet physically overpowered Thanos, ripping Thanos' infinity sword from his grip. Now a nerd could argue that Stormbreaker somehow helped, but not sure that's one of SB's powers. Flight, lightning focus and Bifrosting seem to be it.

Dadbod Thor also had a better strength showing when Thanos was standing over him and using his full body weight and strength when trying to kill Thor with Stormbreaker. The blade was going to kill him, but he was resisting better.

While Thanos used less effort in physically overpowering Hulk when they tested their strength and Thanos was in partially down and not in an ideal position.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdh-ogF8zeg&ab_channel=FilmeyBox

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-QfXG58fzc&ab_channel=JoBloSuperheroes

Just because Supes stomped Stepp doesn't mean he's weak, Supes would stomp many heavy hitters just as bad.
Rag Thor would fall to Diana, Arthur and Cyborg in a one sided beatdown.

Steppenwolf was handling them. Stepp wins.
IW Thor is a different story though.

Originally posted by 9jaboy

Rag Thor would fall to Diana, Arthur and Cyborg in a one sided beatdown.


^^^In your opinion.

Originally posted by Robtard
Oh no, MCU Thor does have these showings: We can agree that dadbod Thor is a fair amount weaker than prime Thor, yet physically overpowered Thanos, ripping Thanos' infinity sword from his grip. Now a nerd could argue that Stormbreaker somehow helped, but not sure that's one of SB's powers. Flight, lightning focus and Bifrosting seem to be it.

Dadbod Thor also had a better strength showing when Thanos was standing over him and using his full body weight and strength when trying to kill Thor with Stormbreaker. The blade was going to kill him, but he was resisting better.

While Thanos used less effort in physically overpowering Hulk when they tested their strength and Thanos was in partially down and not in an ideal position.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdh-ogF8zeg&ab_channel=FilmeyBox

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-QfXG58fzc&ab_channel=JoBloSuperheroes

Fat Thor didn't overpower Thanos at all.
1. First instance was Skill, They both pushed against each other with their respective weapons, Thor immediately switched SB's position to the direction of Thanos' blade and pulled the Blade away.

2. Thanos was Smiling while slowly overpowering Thor with SB to Thor's chest. In Hulk's instance he just grabs his hands and slowly pulls them out . I don't think that shows Thor is stronger than hulk.

Prior to that at 2:05 in your clip we clearly see Thanos lift Fat Thor up with one hand with ease, turns around and smashes him through a rock, punches him and then flings him with one arm again.

I thought it was clear that Hulk was stronger but Thor was more powerful.

Originally posted by riv6672
^^^In your opinion. Do you think otherwise?Oh you think Rag Thor will beat WW and Aquaman?
WW that took a hit from DD and was Smiling? She's faster than Thor.
WW can win on her own , adding Arthur makes it one sided.

What's your opinion?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Maybe because there's no need to spam them? It's not as though they were too fast to hit.

But he has shown spamming it out against an army.



As already stated, he was on his ass and looking sleepy. Thor chose to try and calm him down instead of potentially finishing him off.

Not sure what we're arguing here though, as we both agree Thor > Hulk. I just think it's clear Ragnarok showed that even a fist fight/pure brawl between them can be close, only as we saw if it goes on too long, Hulk definitively overpowers him.

What do you mean thre's no need? He lost to Hela, Thanos and Gorr. If his lightning was so powerful, why didn't he use it against them? Actually, he did use it against Hela, but it did **** all to her but I won't hold that against Thor because I believe she'd wreck Thanos and Gorr.

I think the fight indicated that Thor had the advantage against Hulk at that point, but it wasn't definitive.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
Fat Thor didn't overpower Thanos at all.
1. First instance was Skill, They both pushed against each other with their respective weapons, Thor immediately switched SB's position to the direction of Thanos' blade and pulled the Blade away.

2. Thanos was Smiling while slowly overpowering Thor with SB to Thor's chest. In Hulk's instance he just grabs his hands and slowly pulls them out . I don't think that shows Thor is stronger than hulk.

Prior to that at 2:05 in your clip we clearly see Thanos lift Fat Thor up with one hand with ease, turns around and smashes him through a rock, punches him and then flings him with one arm again.

I thought it was clear that Hulk was stronger but Thor was more powerful.

-That would require physical strength as well as Thanos had full grip on his blade

-Thanos had leverage while standing over Thor and using his full body. While Hulk had the leverage advantage when Thanos overpowered Hulk

I'm not arguing that Thor is stronger than Thanos, just that Thor had better strength showings against Thanos than Hulk did

Doesn't seem to be that way any longer.

Fat Thor was bulking. Regular 10% bodyfat Thor isn't as strong.

Originally posted by tkitna
I just said it took like 10 hits from mjolnir to break it and only one blast from his lightning to do it. What does that conclude?

Very strong glass? Lol

Some of the strongest glass that is as thick as that bridge would resist a crazy amount of force (many tons). You missed my argument about Thor softening the bridge up. Thor did some noticeable damage to the bridge before his last strike where he says, "Forgive me Jane."

And Thor didn't use lightning there. Just a final strike.

Originally posted by h1a8
Some of the strongest glass that is as thick as that bridge would resist a crazy amount of force (many tons). You missed my argument about Thor softening the bridge up. Thor did some noticeable damage to the bridge before his last strike where he says, "Forgive me Jane."

And Thor didn't use lightning there. Just a final strike.

Your proving my point for me. Yes he softened up the bridge as I said it took about 10 strikes from mjolnir.

8:50 mark. There was no softening going on there and it was indeed lightning.

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Originally posted by Psychotron
What do you mean thre's no need? He lost to Hela, Thanos and Gorr. If his lightning was so powerful, why didn't he use it against them? Actually, he did use it against Hela, but it did **** all to her but I won't hold that against Thor because I believe she'd wreck Thanos and Gorr.

I think the fight indicated that Thor had the advantage against Hulk at that point, but it wasn't definitive.


I mean no need to Spam out lightning in multiple directions unless you're either fighting multiple opponents or your target is hard to hit. Remember in Thor one when Loki created illusions, so Thor just blasted all the Loki's to hit the real one.

He's shot lightning at Hela, Thanos and Gorr. Just didn't spam it out in multiple directions, because there was literally no added benefit to do that against them.

Originally posted by Psychotron


I think the fight indicated that Thor had the advantage against Hulk at that point, but it wasn't definitive.


Point it it was just a strength contest and at that point, and Thor was not only winning, but didn't press a potential opportunity to finish him off.

The little Lightning spam won't do anything against any real threat. It's for fodders.
As for this fight SW wins. Do not compare Thor to Superman.
What Superman did to SW , he will do to Marvel/DC top tiers.

Thor slaughters