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Round 1: MOS Nam-EK
Round 2: Flashpoint Nam-Ek from the Flash

who wins
Namor is at full power/with his spear

BANE DIES

Nam-Ek wrecks Mexicamor.

Namek explodes... Oh wait.

Dont see what stops Namor from impaling him.

Nam ek is way faster and wayyyyyyy stronger.
He can one shot Namor if we go by feats.

Originally posted by h1a8
Nam ek is way faster and wayyyyyyy stronger.
He can one shot Namor if we go by feats.

What feats dictate that Namor would be one shotted? He isn't going to win the fight but he isnt getting one shotted either.

Originally posted by tkitna
What feats dictate that Namor would be one shotted? He isn't going to win the fight but he isnt getting one shotted either. Lack of feats dictate it.

You look at one's strength feats vs ones durability feats.
If the strength feats are a magnitude or greater than one's durability feats then it is a one shot scenario.

Originally posted by h1a8
Lack of feats dictate it.

You look at one's strength feats vs ones durability feats.
If the strength feats are a magnitude or greater than one's durability feats then it is a one shot scenario.

So assumptions and perceptions, but no proof. Got it.

Dude was tossing and destroying Wakanda ships and flew Shuri into the ground from the sky. He isn't getting one shot by a C-lister kryptonian.

Originally posted by tkitna
So assumptions and perceptions, but no proof. Got it.

Dude was tossing and destroying Wakanda ships and flew Shuri into the ground from the sky. He isn't getting one shot by a C-lister kryptonian.

Swinging a ship on a circle with a spear before slinging it is clearly a superhuman feat.
Congratulations you proved he has superhuman strength.

But unfortunately that feat is well below 50 tons.

Nam has a feat above 10,000 tons.

Which feats are you referring to for both? Show your working out for both assertions, so I can rip them apart as usual.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Which feats are you referring to for both? Show your working out for both assertions, so I can rip them apart as usual.

Yeah, the math that only works out in his world.

Well, Namek squashed a fighter pilot, caught a flying MOS Superman and stopped his forward momentum by grabbing his cape, cratered the ground with him Hulk smash Loki style, unharmed by the explosion of an aircraft, no-sold a flying charge from Superman, got back up after being punched into a train hard enough to derail it from a mile away, threw a train engine a mile, etc. And his biggest feat, getting a temporary KO on Superman along with Faora. The same Superman who crashed into a mountain hard enough destroy half of its top side and was unharmed.

Namor's biggest strength feat is throwing a helicopter. His only chance is the spear which Namek could easily dodge with his superior speed

Yeah h1 is quite the retard but in this instance he's almost certainly right. Particularly because people are using Hulk feats from later on to upscale Abomination. By that same reasoning Namek was able to at least hold his own against Clark, who gets some very good feats later on.

Even with base movie Namek probably has the stronger argument though honestly. Being at least close if not equal to Clark in strength means he scales to a weakened Clark being able to overpower the gravitational pressure while weakened the World Engine was putting out, which was displacing millions of tons of water. He'd beat Namor to death in moments.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Which feats are you referring to for both? Show your working out for both assertions, so I can rip them apart as usual.
Slinging the Wakanda ship can not be proven to be more than 50 tons of force.

I posted the Nam feat of him throwing the locomotive approximately a city block some years ago. I can try to find it. Or just redo it.

Originally posted by h1a8
Slinging the Wakanda ship can not be proven to be more than 50 tons of force.

I posted the Nam feat of him throwing the locomotive approximately a city block some years ago. I can try to find it. Or just redo it.

Why not?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Yeah h1 is quite the retard but in this instance he's almost certainly right. Particularly because people are using Hulk feats from later on to upscale Abomination. By that same reasoning Namek was able to at least hold his own against Clark, who gets some very good feats later on.

Even with base movie Namek probably has the stronger argument though honestly. Being at least close if not equal to Clark in strength means he scales to a weakened Clark being able to overpower the gravitational pressure while weakened the World Engine was putting out, which was displacing millions of tons of water. He'd beat Namor to death in moments.

Nobody is arguing who would win the fight. A one shot victory though? That aint happening.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Why not?

Maybe I'm wrong. I didn't attempt to calculate it.
Maybe the feat is between 100-500 tons.

How much mass does the ship have?
We can make some reasonable assumptions. 15-20 tons maybe?

He just slung it in a 3/4 circle in about a second.

We can attempt to calculate the centripetal force.

m = mass = 15 - 20 tons = 13600 - 18200 kg
r = Radius (about the center of mass) = 6-8 meters

He rotated 3/4 of a circle in approximately a sec.
So w = Angular velocity = (3pi/2)/s

So centripetal force is:
F = m * r * w^2

Lower estimate F = (13600) * (6) * (3pi/2)^2 = 1.81e6 N = 204 tons
Upper estimate F = (18200) * (8) * (3pi/2)^2 = 3.22e8 N = 362 tons

So between 204 and 362 tons of centripetal force?

Originally posted by h1a8
Maybe I'm wrong. I didn't attempt to calculate it.
Maybe the feat is between 100-500 tons.

How much mass does the ship have?
We can make some reasonable assumptions. 15-20 tons maybe?


This first step is where you already fail.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This first step is where you already fail.

You mean succeeded.
Remember the original claim was the feat can't be proven to take more than 50 tons of force.

Thanks that you agree.

Proving a negative? No thanks, that's bad debating.

Prove that the ship is the weight you assume it is.

Can anyone link the feat h1 won't shut up about?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Can anyone link the feat h1 won't shut up about?

At 3:12 and 4:30 marks

OkxQ2ZYYmj4

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Proving a negative? No thanks, that's bad debating.

Prove that the ship is the weight you assume it is.

The ships weight can not be proven to 100% accuracy. Hence my claim.

But it can estimated, using reasonable assumptions (like scale to a jet fighter plane). The 15-20 ton estimate comes from similar sized (maybe slightly bigger) jet fighter planes that weighs 13-20 tons.
But this is faulty since the Wakandans are far more advanced than real humans and can possibly build ships even lighter (more efficient) than comparable human sized ones.

The problem is that IF the feat can't be calculated to ANY reasonable standard (a reasonable error percentage) then Namor doesn't have a feat to argue for.

We have to agree on the assumptions as a consensus or a vast majority.

Originally posted by h1a8
The ships weight can not be proven to 100% accuracy. Hence my claim.

But it can estimated, using reasonable assumptions (like scale to a jet fighter plane). The 15-20 ton estimate comes from similar sized (maybe slightly bigger) jet fighter planes that weighs 13-20 tons.
But this is faulty since the Wakandans are far more advanced than real humans and can possibly build ships even lighter (more efficient) than comparable human sized ones.

The problem is that IF the feat can't be calculated to ANY reasonable standard (a reasonable error percentage) then Namor doesn't have a feat to argue for.

We have to agree on the assumptions as a consensus or a vast majority.

I don't actually care if Namor has a feat or not - my point is that your assumptions are wrong/faulty in the first place.

So if it strikes Namor's feat out, then so be it.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I don't actually care if Namor has a feat or not - my point is that your assumptions are wrong/faulty in the first place.

So if it strikes Namor's feat out, then so be it.

Originally posted by h1a8
Slinging the Wakanda ship can not be proven to be more than 50 tons of force.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Why not?

Originally posted by tkitna
At 3:12 and 4:30 marks

OkxQ2ZYYmj4 Yeah even if it was made out of pure vibranium and as such 1/3 the weight of mundane metal like steel he literally chucked it several hundred feet. It's easily above 50 tons or whatever dumb shit h1 was saying. Still not as good as Namek's locomotive toss but no one is really arguing against Namek being stronger.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85


You answered the question already. You forgot? Want me to remind you?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Yeah even if it was made out of pure vibranium and as such 1/3 the weight of mundane metal like steel he literally chucked it several hundred feet. It's easily above 50 tons or whatever dumb shit h1 was saying. Still not as good as Namek's locomotive toss but no one is really arguing against Namek being stronger.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt and overestimated it to the 300- 400 ton range. But DS shot me down. So it's back to a non feat.

told ya I can rip your post apart.