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Same Doomsday tha fought the Superman/Batman/Wonder Woman.

Who's taking this?

Didn't she go into the core of a star in her 2nd film?
She rips Doomsday in half

I really don't know who would win as Doomsday adapts, but I do think Carrol would do better than the other three.

DD was able to tank ground zero of a U.S. hydrogen bomb, which can range from 10.4 to 25 megatons with temperatures reaching 4-5 times hotter than the core of the sun. The strategical missiles have about a 1.5 megaton yield.

As far as the pressure, the older 1979 W80 warhead with variable yield of 5 - 150 kiloton (U.S. strategical missiles have a 10-300 times more yield) was able to produce 140TPa of radiation pressure, 750TPa of plasma pressure, and 6400TPa of ablation pressure. This is 2.03e10 psi, 1.09e11 psi, and 9.28e11 psi, respectively. The pressure at the center of the sun is 1.94e10 psi (and becomes less at the outer edge of the core).

In other words, a U.S. hydrogen bomb, at ground zero, is 4-5 times hotter than the core of the sun and has pressures more than 5 times that of the sun.

Originally posted by h1a8
DD was able to tank ground zero of a U.S. hydrogen bomb, which can range from 10.4 to 25 megatons with temperatures reaching 4-5 times hotter than the core of the sun. The strategical missiles have about a 1.5 megaton yield.

As far as the pressure, the older 1979 W80 warhead with variable yield of 5 - 150 kiloton (U.S. strategical missiles have a 10-300 times more yield) was able to produce 140TPa of radiation pressure, 750TPa of plasma pressure, and 6400TPa of ablation pressure. This is 2.03e10 psi, 1.09e11 psi, and 9.28e11 psi, respectively. The pressure at the center of the sun is 1.94e10 psi (and becomes less at the outer edge of the core).

In other words, a U.S. hydrogen bomb, at ground zero, is 4-5 times hotter than the core of the sun and has pressures more than 5 times that of the sun.

Originally posted by h1a8
DD was able to tank ground zero of a U.S. hydrogen bomb, which can range from 10.4 to 25 megatons with temperatures reaching 4-5 times hotter than the core of the sun. The strategical missiles have about a 1.5 megaton yield.

As far as the pressure, the older 1979 W80 warhead with variable yield of 5 - 150 kiloton (U.S. strategical missiles have a 10-300 times more yield) was able to produce 140TPa of radiation pressure, 750TPa of plasma pressure, and 6400TPa of ablation pressure. This is 2.03e10 psi, 1.09e11 psi, and 9.28e11 psi, respectively. The pressure at the center of the sun is 1.94e10 psi (and becomes less at the outer edge of the core).

In other words, a U.S. hydrogen bomb, at ground zero, is 4-5 times hotter than the core of the sun and has pressures more than 5 times that of the sun.

She withstood at least 20 missles that was said to have the power to destroy cities. She withstood a blast that tore a hole in the fabric of time and space, and she literally flew through a sun and altered the entire sun. My goal here is to see if people think Doomsday won't get ripped in half.

Marvel shit stomps DD.

H1, you're comparing a singular nuke. Captain Marvel tanked at least 20 nuclear warheads that was aimed at decimating earth. She just flew through that shit like it was nothing. What on panel strength fts does Superman have that makes you think he's stronger than Captain Marvel?

Surviving in a star/nukes are durability feats, not strength feats.

They have Jack all to do w. ripping another character in half.

The Hell is WRONG with you ppl?

I agree. She has strength fts. I'm asking H1 what fts make him think Superman is stronger than Marvel. Then we can go from there

Originally posted by carver9
H1, you're comparing a singular nuke. Captain Marvel tanked at least 20 nuclear warheads that was aimed at decimating earth. She just flew through that shit like it was nothing. What on panel strength fts does Superman have that makes you think he's stronger than Captain Marvel?

When did she endure an actual nuclear explosion?

So you are not familiar with Superman's strength feats? You basically either didn't watch the movies and also ignored all the strength feats mention here on kmc.

Tell you what, give me a strength feat from her and I promise to give you one from him that's more than twice as impressive.

Originally posted by tkitna
This argument is defeating your purpose. Just because Gladiator didn't hit Colossus with planet busting force doesn't mean he couldn't.

You misunderstood. A faulty argument is that Colossus withstood planet busting force.

Originally posted by riv6672
Surviving in a star/nukes are durability feats, not strength feats.

They have Jack all to do w. ripping another character in half.

The Hell is WRONG with you ppl?


But I guess it means she could just fly through him? Cutting him in half that way...

Originally posted by Darth Thor
But I guess it means she could just fly through him? Cutting him in half that way...

She doesn't have that type of power. She only was shown flying through ships. DD is vastly more durable than those ships.

Originally posted by h1a8
When did she endure an actual nuclear explosion?

So you are not familiar with Superman's strength feats? You basically either didn't watch the movies and also ignored all the strength feats mention here on kmc.

Tell you what, give me a strength feat from her and I promise to give you one from him that's more than twice as impressive.



You misunderstood. A faulty argument is that Colossus withstood planet busting force.

When she endured a number of nuclear weapons that on panel ripped cities apart. She flew through about 20 of them without flinching.

I want YOU to tell me the fts that make you think Superman is stronger. Name them. I asked first. Name the ft, please.

The question is, can DCEU Doomsday absorb the energy put out by Captain Marvel?

Originally posted by h1a8
DD is vastly more durable than those ships.

Prove it

Originally posted by carver9
When she endured a number of nuclear weapons that on panel ripped cities apart. She flew through about 20 of them without flinching.

I want YOU to tell me the fts that make you think Superman is stronger. Name them. I asked first. Name the ft, please.

Show me the scene where she endured a nuclear explosion

Originally posted by tkitna
Prove it

The ships have no durability feats while DD does.
QED

Originally posted by h1a8
The ships have no durability feats while DD does.
QED

How do you know the ship wasn't more durable than DD? Why are you putting it on the low list. None of the other heros that could fly were heading towards it.

Originally posted by tkitna
How do you know the ship wasn't more durable than DD? Why are you putting it on the low list. None of the other heros that could fly were heading towards it. The status quo is that ships are made of alloys having the properties of aluminum, titanium, steel, etc.

The ships needs feats/on screen evidence to dismiss the status quo.

Rule: No feat/on screen evidence = no special attributes.
Items and characters are reduced to the status quo (human level materials).

Originally posted by h1a8
The status quo is that ships are made of alloys having the properties of aluminum, titanium, steel, etc.

The ships needs feats/on screen evidence to dismiss the status quo.

Rule: No feat/on screen evidence = no special attributes.
Items and characters are reduced to the status quo (human level materials).

The status quo is a ship from Titan or created by Thanos (not of this world ) is made out of aluminum, titanium, steel, etc? The same Thanos who had a sword that busted Caps shield and took multiple hits from mjnolnir and storm breaker?

Do you realize how dumb you sound? Its an alien ship. Why would you assume its made out of aluminum, titanium, and steel?

Originally posted by tkitna
The status quo is a ship from Titan or created by Thanos (not of this world ) is made out of aluminum, titanium, steel, etc? The same Thanos who had a sword that busted Caps shield and took multiple hits from mjnolnir and storm breaker?

Do you realize how dumb you sound? Its an alien ship. Why would you assume its made out of aluminum, titanium, and steel? It's still the status quo. You have to provide evidence to it being more durable than titanium alloy.

Originally posted by h1a8
It's still the status quo. You have to provide evidence to it being more durable than titanium alloy.

Lol. Its your status quo. Why don't you have to provide evidence that it's not? Nobody else believes in your status quo.

Taking all things into consideration with the durability of Thanos's sword, the fact that its an alien ship, and that no other hero attempted to take it out, how can anybody assume it was less durable than titanium alloy? At some point common sense needs to take over.

I'm sure the spaceships are made out of the cheapest Chinese steel one can find 🤣🤣

Let me guess H1 , Thanos probably scoured Earths scrapyards and dumpster dived behind the NASA building to scrap his massive intergalactic traveling space bound fleet together?


And what is the status quo for all the teleporters and other highly advanced technology that we have no way of even attempting to replicate with our earthly materials? Probably just a bunch of copper wire wrapped around some IKEA furniture?

Thanos bought that wish.com spaceship.

Thanos: I want a spaceship
Thanos Mom - We got spaceships at home.

Originally posted by KingD19
Thanos: I want a spaceship
Thanos Mom - We got spaceships at home.

Thanos: that's it, I'm killing you all.

Originally posted by tkitna
Lol. Its your status quo. Why don't you have to provide evidence that it's not? Nobody else believes in your status quo.

Taking all things into consideration with the durability of Thanos's sword, the fact that its an alien ship, and that no other hero attempted to take it out, how can anybody assume it was less durable than titanium alloy? At some point common sense needs to take over.

Plot induced stupidity exists in fiction. The heros don't know what it's made out of. How could they? They didn't even try to destroy it. (maybe they were occupied dealing with Thanos and his minions).

Doesn't matter because the lack of trying isn't proof to the existence of a special attribute in fiction.

Lastly, status quo = null hypothesis = no special attributes
It's not mine nor yours, it's its own.

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't have to prove something that is true by the status quo.
^^^Do it or forfeit. Your choice.

We have zero evidence or data to back up or prove what kind of metals and alloys alien ships from another galaxy millions of light years away are composed of.

For all we know, they have a completely different periodic table of elements.

There is no standard or status quo unless we have viable screen feats.

#MVFGoldenRule

Thanks for your ruling Imp. Also, just pointing out that the Leviathans have metal armor that even Hulk couldn't destroy with a full force punch that caused one to buckle and flip over. While Hulk quite casually rampaged and smashed through every wall in the Hellicarrier. One was made from alien metals, and the other from Earth metals. Hmmmm.

Originally posted by riv6672
^^^Do it or forfeit. Your choice.

We don't prove negatives here. If someone or something doesn't have onscreen feats to back up a claim to having a special attribute then the claim isn't treated as true.

Originally posted by Impediment
We have zero evidence or data to back up or prove what kind of metals and alloys alien ships from another galaxy millions of light years away are composed of.

For all we know, they have a completely different periodic table of elements.

There is no standard or status quo unless we have viable screen feats.

#MVFGoldenRule

That's exactly what I was saying. The status quo means the ship gets no special attributes unless proven to have them. No screen feats = no special attributes.

For example, no one can't argue or assume the ships were 100x stronger than steel without onscreen feats.

^^^Forfeit for you, then.

Think about how stupid you feel right now next time you try and do to someone exactly what I did to you in regards to asking for proof.

Originally posted by KingD19
Thanks for your ruling Imp. Also, just pointing out that the Leviathans have metal armor that even Hulk couldn't destroy with a full force punch that caused one to buckle and flip over. While Hulk quite casually rampaged and smashed through every wall in the Hellicarrier. One was made from alien metals, and the other from Earth metals. Hmmmm.

1. Hulk rip the armor like it was tissue paper. What are you talking about?
The armor was destroyed by lightning, Tony blew the armor into pieces with a missile, etc.

2. Spaceships are not necessarily made of the same material. Fighting space ships have been destroyed by conventional weaponry many times in fiction. Some ships are designed to shield from cosmic radiation.

3. Thanos ship is not necessarily his own tech but can be the tech of some other species that built the ship for him or gave him the ship or it was the ship Thanos took by force. The tech behind the leviathan (both leviathan and chitauri are a different species than Thanos) could also not be of Thanos design. He could have just recruited them or force them to join him.

These are just a few reasons, there are more reasons why it is not necessary of the conclusion you are implying.

Originally posted by riv6672
^^^Forfeit for you, then.

Think about how stupid you feel right now next time you try and do to someone exactly what I did to you in regards to asking for proof.

You lack the understanding of knowing the difference.

Asking for proof of a claim to a special attribute
Isn't the same as
Asking for proof that someone/something DOESN'T have a special attribute.

The latter is what you are doing.

^^^Apology accepted.

What's the hype all about? CM is weak as sh*t. She has 0 shot here.

Good to see that mods are perfectly willing and capable of stepping in and making posts when they want to