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Can Wonder Woman survive this Earth invested with Deathangels or even annihilate them all, or does she die a horrible death?

She'd have no trouble tearing them apart with her hands and speed, let alone sword and shield.

WW is tough to gauge but with her sword and shield I see her being able to take on several at a time with little to no issue.

What is in doubt is her durability and once enough of them pile up on her it won't matter how fast she is as she will have no room to maneuver and if bullets can hurt her then the Death Angels will eventually bleed her out in a straight up fight against a horde.

If she just went around killing them one by one and was smart about it she could for sure eventually make a dent in them

If they are statues, how can they move? They would be frozen in time from her perspective. She could eliminate them one by one, disrupt their hearing with a clash of her bracelets, and more.

Frozen? Yet she can get hit by slower people?

Ok, so they will be statues to a point, she doesn't just none stop operate at superspeed, she will gas out.

And I am talking about like a big horde of them. If she is just running around killing one by one then sure.

I honestly think the Death Angels are extremely over hyped here and in comicvine

Originally posted by Thinkerer
Frozen? Yet she can get hit by slower people?

Just like Flash does all the time. If people with superspeed never got hit, then the movie/show would be boring and over in an instant. The Death Angel's are fast, but Diana is definitely fast enough that if she's moving at speed, or just in reaction mode, they can't touch her.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11117/111173561/5827875-8882844408-giphy.gif - Casually blocks a rifle bullet without even seeing the shooter at first.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11117/111173561/5827933-5387415813-giphy.gif - Blocks multiple bullets, including one with her sword while in a slide rush.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11117/111173561/5885285-2850711796-giphy.gif - Knocks a bullet back into the gun barrel at nearly point-blank range.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11117/111173561/6291650-4530072833-giphy.gif - Sees rifle rounds in slow mo.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11117/111173561/6291683-1443515523-giphy.gif - Blocks a full auto barrage from a modern AR while keeping herself between the people and shooter.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11117/111173561/6291473-9923933339-giphy.gif - Literal speedblitz

And keep in mind that she's fast enough to move while Flash is going in Speed Force mode. She's not as fast as Superman, but the fact that she's not frozen like everyone else says something.

By the time of the movies there only appear to be like five Death Angels in any given general location, she can easily take five at once. She does just fine in this scenario.

Well in the prequel, when they landed in New York, there seemed to be at least thousands moving through the city.

I heard she lets out big ripper farts in her sleep as well as snores loud AF. She'll attract them cos of that and they'll jab her in the poo hole while she's unconscious.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Ok, so they will be statues to a point, she doesn't just none stop operate at superspeed, she will gas out.

And I am talking about like a big horde of them. If she is just running around killing one by one then sure.

I honestly think the Death Angels are extremely over hyped here and in comicvine

Her perception is always active, requiring no activation or energy to use. How fast she moves to kill them is irrelevant as long as they can't hit her. She can eliminate 100 of them in under a minute.


Originally posted by Thinkerer
Frozen? Yet she can get hit by slower people?
This is a forum fight where PIS doesn't determine a character's abilities. Since she can perceive bullets in slow motion, they will all appear as statues to her in a forum fight.

^^^No they wont.

Originally posted by riv6672
^^^No they wont.

They won't what? Be perceived as a statue?

^^^

Originally posted by riv6672
^^^

She naturally perceives rifle bullets (3000 ft/s) traveling in super slow motion without any effort. That's orders of magnitude faster than the combat speed of the Death Angels, so they would appear to be barely moving to her.

In a forum fight, her established perceptions won't be taken away for the sake of the plot.

This whole seeing everything in slowmotion constantly makes no sense though. She would always see everything in slowmotion, every single interaction, from talking to someone, to taking a shit. Nah, I ain't buying it.

They only see things in slowmotion if they enter a certain hyperfocus, when they activate their supersenses or speed. Time perception is probably relative to the speed they are moving in. They simple dont always perceive everything in slowmo.

Originally posted by Thinkerer
This whole seeing everything in slowmotion constantly makes no sense though. She would always see everything in slowmotion, every single interaction, from talking to someone, to taking a shit. Nah, I ain't buying it.

They only see things in slowmotion if they enter a certain hyperfocus, when they activate their supersenses or speed. Time perception is probably relative to the speed they are moving in. They simple dont always perceive everything in slowmo.

1. Her perceptions is always on as multiple scenes show random bullets being fired without having to focus or increase her perceptions.

2. There is no logical way she would purposely choose to not activate her perceptions in a fight, assuming she has to activate them.

3. This is fiction. It was explained many times that Flash would have the same problem. But Flash has instances of reacting to bullets that were fired when he wasn't in speed mode, walking around his apartment sleepy, unaware that they were fired (sniper bullet that came from his window pressing against his head in slow motion).

https://youtu.be/xQ9C-pao0lw?si=zHNFen4i9NbSgzwv

Theres absolutely no indication from the films that her perception is on and in use 24/7. If that were true shed be invisible all the time.

She can react to a bullet anytime, but thats different. Daredevil can also sense and react to bullets coming from behind anytime (and slo-mo perception wouldnt help you see from behind anyway).

But h1 will pointlessly and relentlessly argue this for pages and pages.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Theres absolutely no indication from the films that her perception is on and in use 24/7. If that were true shed be invisible all the time.

She can react to a bullet anytime, but thats different. Daredevil can also sense and react to bullets coming from behind anytime (and slo-mo perception wouldnt help you see from behind anyway).

But h1 will pointlessly and relentlessly argue this for pages and pages.



Perception is what she sees. Are you saying she would remain frozen and helpless while perceiving an attack (that's moving magnitudes slower than a bullet) as almost frozen?

When bullets are slowed down in the movie, the audience can see her every move clearly.

Originally posted by h1a8
Perception is what she sees. Are you saying she would remain frozen and helpless while perceiving an attack (that's moving magnitudes slower than a bullet) as almost frozen?

When bullets are slowed down in the movie, the audience can see her every move clearly.


Firstly I think these creatures are too fast and sneaky to be completely frozen to her.

Second there's zero evidence the world is frozen to her 24/7.

She's not been consistently portrayed the way (for instance) Clark from Smallville or Superman from Lois and Clark were. Or even the Flash. She's only shown she can move at super speeds for short bursts.

Obvious nonsense aside, WW still wins this setup

Originally posted by Darth Thor


1. Firstly I think these creatures are too fast and sneaky to be completely frozen to her.

2. Second there's zero evidence the world is frozen to her 24/7.

3. She's not been consistently portrayed the way (for instance) Clark from Smallville or Superman from Lois and Clark were. Or even the Flash.

4. She's only shown she can move at super speeds for short bursts.

1. They are magnitudes slower than a bullet. If they aren't frozen, they move at the speed of a sloth. They don't just sneak up on people; she has to make a sound for them to attack. She knows their weakness and understands that sounds attract them. Additionally, she is too durable to be significantly harmed by their attacks, as she has withstood strikes from beings far more powerful than the Death Angels.


2. You are creating a strawman with the 24/7 argument. In battle, when attacks are launched at her, she perceives them far slower than any human, to the point where a bullet appears in slow motion. What happens outside of battle or when not under attack is irrelevant. This is fiction, and all speedsters face that problem. How do they communicate with others when they perceive things as almost frozen? I posted a video explaining this.


3. Another irrelevant strawman. She consistently perceives bullets in slow motion and has blocked countless bullets. The only time one hit her was when she was weakened and losing her powers. It is illogical to always perceive bullets as moving in slow motion and not view much slower attacks as moving even slower. That's all that matters.


4. Perception is key, not just speed. If I can perceive Prime Floyd Mayweather's punches as moving at 1 mph, I would easily avoid and counter his attacks without increasing my own speed. I would dominate him. Similarly, as long as she perceives their movements to be so slow that she can easily evade or kill them beforehand, she will prevail.


Regarding her assumed short-burst speed, she can literally kill a dozen of them in a second. No more than that would be attacking her simultaneously. Remember, they are blind and use sound to track people. Making a sound would only attract one to a dozen of them. Plus, thunderclapping her bracelets would kill a massive number at once, and she can spam that attack repeatedly.