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Aayla.

Originally posted by Se7in
Aayla.

Aayla, by far. This thread is stupid.

Can Elites use the Force? No. Are they suspectible to the Force? Very likely.

And what would make you think that a plasma sword would be able to hold it's own against hyper focused light? A lightsaber might plain break through it.

Just like it would break through the Elites heads... Aayla crushes them.

There is a little thing called defence that might help the elites when they fight in melee, but they haven't figured that out yet. Until they do, don't make any more threads like this.

He clearly said Aayla uses lightsaber only. It's in the title. At least read before you insult the thread.

I read it and posted accordingly.

Aayla would be slaughtered. Jedi don't use the force to actively murder opponents and Elites are incredibly strong and brutal.

but aayla is much faster, I think she would be able to do this

Originally posted by Ianus
Aayla would be slaughtered. Jedi don't use the force to actively murder opponents and Elites are incredibly strong and brutal.

But how good at sword fighting are they? And they can be as strong or brutal as they want, that won't prevent them from getting sliced in half. They have no defence.

Originally posted by Ganner Rhysode
Aayla, by far. This thread is stupid.

Can Elites use the Force? No. Are they suspectible to the Force? Very likely.

And what would make you think that a plasma sword would be able to hold it's own against hyper focused light? A lightsaber might plain break through it.

Do we actually know that the Elite's energy sword is a plasma based sword and do we actually know that a lightsaber can break through the energy sword when KoToR had swords that could withstand the lightsaber's force.

Those swords are made of Cortosis.

Uh, an elite is roughly strong or stronger than Master Chief. According to the Halo novelisation, MC can punch holes in concrete walls and move heavy vehicles.

You think a little Twilek girl jedi can withstand an onslaught of TWO of these beings? Not to mention they're pretty damn fast.

Not to mention that Master Chief's armor weights around 1,000 pounds and he can still outrun the marines.

His armor does not weigh that much. Where the hell did you get that?

Originally posted by jollyjim311
But how good at sword fighting are they? And they can be as strong or brutal as they want, that won't prevent them from getting sliced in half. They have no defence. Elites are good, (hence their name) good enough to take out Aayla at least. And like the SW, don't base abilities like speed and strength off video-game movements.

Well thats all I have to base them off, sorry (I haven't read any of the Halo novels). Do Elites typically practice melee combat though? They seemed to me more like strong aliens with guns that when they get close enough they stab you with a sword, not duelists. They use it as a simple advantage when necessary, they don't perfect it like the Jedi do.

I would think they can use swords rather well considering their martial nature. Especially upper class elites, who are all about honor.

In Halo 1 you usually see the Gold Elites with energy swords and nothing else so they must have training with energy swords to run into battle against marines with guns like the Gold Elites do.

Exactly, they use them as an advantage against gun wielding enemies, they just have to run up and stab them. I'm not doubting that they know how to hold a sword, I'm doubting that they put any real training into dueling. Even if they do, no way it is anything even remotely as extensive as the Jedis melee training.

Do Jedis run into blaster users without lightsaber training?

...Yes...

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Exactly, they use them as an advantage against gun wielding enemies, they just have to run up and stab them. I'm not doubting that they know how to hold a sword, I'm doubting that they put any real training into dueling. Even if they do, no way it is anything even remotely as extensive as the Jedis melee training.

What really makes you think extensive duelling is neccessary?

Real life swordfighting is a matter of seconds. All that drawn out Star wars saber-dancing is really unneccesary. Two elites can pincer her with a simple charge and she'll go down. If she's quick enough to leap up and over them, they can still tear her apart. Really, she has no defense against their brute strength and ferocity aside from running like hell.

Thank you Janus

None neccessary. I just hate seeing this blatant jedi bias that has no grounding in logic. Elites are huge aliens strong if not stronger than Master Chief, who can break any one jedi with his bare hands. Now, lord knows I don't even care for Halo (And I fight Halo fanboys all the time) but I'm not going to rely on "feelings" and "appearances" but the facts. Facts are that Aayla Secura is a slightly above average jedi of small stature who is going to fight two formidable opponents capable of breaking her with their bare hands. I don't see her walking out of this fight alive.

No defence... the force...?...precog...

read the title.
aayla secura (only lightsabers)

What? Jim I've argued Star Wars since February. I think I know the material as good if not better than anyone else here. Don't think I haven't thought of those. But let me elaborate since the concept evades you...

Little girl. Small arms. No muscles worth speaking of. Picture:

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7839/aaylasecura6hi.png

Big alien. Strong. Stands over eight feet tall. Blade that is wide, long, and made for stabbing. Picture:

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9500/pichaloelite4pt.jpg

2 elites vs. aayla. Elites win

Originally posted by Ganner Rhysode
Aayla, by far. This thread is stupid.

Can Elites use the Force? No. Are they suspectible to the Force? Very likely.

And what would make you think that a plasma sword would be able to hold it's own against hyper focused light? A lightsaber might plain break through it.
lightsaber only means without the freakin force

OK, so she has none of her powers, I realize that. I thought he meant normal Aayla who wasn't using any offensive powers. So, no force jump, or precog, or speed? So basically, it's two elites versus some girl with a glow stick? Well then, you guys were right, I guess I was assuming too much. I was assuming that sense it was Aayla she had her precog and, well, skills. 2 Elites could take out Dooku, or Mace, or Yoda, or any lightsaber weilder (with the exception of General Greivous) under these conditions, correct? I just thought sinse a specific Jedi was named that they would be as able as they normally are, sorry.

Ive read all three halo novels and I'll say that the elites have this one so long as she doesnt have any force abilities. But in the novel Capt. Keyes took one down with a single handgun round.....

Originally posted by Shadow x 20
Do Jedis run into blaster users without lightsaber training?
the jedi on AOTC well...SUCKED
i think aayla would be able to take one down considering she has two sabers, therefore she fights one elite with each sword maybe bests one, but gets cocky and dies

Originally posted by Darth243
Ive read all three halo novels and I'll say that the elites have this one so long as she doesnt have any force abilities. But in the novel Capt. Keyes took one down with a single handgun round..... Yeah, but since this blue chick has no gun...

I thought she only had one saber.

Originally posted by Ianus
His armor does not weigh that much. Where the hell did you get that?

Yes, it does, read the books.

Also, in the Books, elites are MUCH stronger than spartans, physically, at least. And the only reason master chief can take them out is because he has a reaction time of around 0.03 seconds, and his armor protects him and makes his weigh enough so the elites cant just toss him.


Originally posted by jollyjim311
Those swords are made of Cortosis.

ITS CURTOSIS WEAVE!! WEAVE!!! YOU HAVE TO WEAVE IT OTHERWISE ITS NOT DENSE ENOUGH TO HANDLE A LIGHTSABER BLOW!!!!

No, the books say MC weights about 1000 pounds IN his armor, not that his armor alone weighs that much.

Originally posted by Ianus
No, the books say MC weights about 1000 pounds IN his armor, not that his armor alone weighs that much.

Ah, i thought thats what he meant....

Edit: but so, how much can he weigh? 300 pounds? that still means his armor weighs at least 600+

Yeah, it's still heavy as hell but makes up for 35-40% of the overall weight.

Originally posted by RevanVader
Ah, i thought thats what he meant....

Edit: but so, how much can he weigh? 300 pounds? that still means his armor weighs at least 600+

Did you mean to say that?... If not, haha, good sir.

Star Wars only, thankyou.

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