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Who Wins

Duel 1 ) Saber

Duel 2 ) Force

Duel 3 ) Hands and Feet


Location : Levithan Bridge

Maul owns Bandon in all categories.

The only chance Bandon has of winning is in a force fight as I don't remember Maul possessing any offensive powers beyond TK.

Grip, jump, run, ect. are others that he has used.

Maul destorys Bandon in al three. 10/10 Maul in a curbstomp.

Maul destroys Bandon.

Maul, obviously...

Bandon wins all three

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Bandon wins all three
Lol!


You are joking, right?

Originally posted by darthsith19
Lol!


You are joking, right?

I hope so.

Maul wins...

Maul wins without using his limbs.

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
Maul wins without using his limbs.

Well i dont mean to sound Ignorent but to me it seemed that Bandon was Equal to Maul kinda

Maul wins. I've yet to see anything about Bandom that I find truly impressive.

Originally posted by MasterAshenVor
Well i dont mean to sound Ignorent but to me it seemed that Bandon was Equal to Maul kinda

Do you know anything about Maul aside from what you see in the movies, by any chance?

Darth Maul si the reason why Waldo is hiding. When Darth Maul takes a swim he doesn't get wet the water gets Mauled.

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
Darth Maul si the reason why Waldo is hiding. When Darth Maul takes a swim he doesn't get wet the water gets Mauled.

"Mauled" is already a verb... Sorry.

Nice signature, though.

Thanks

And Maul's version of Mauled isn't a verb, it's a Darth Maul, a completely different form of grammar.

Maul wins while Barker gets anal from wolves.

5 people voted for Bandon? :O

Are you joking? Bandon is the man! He blasts Maul to hell

I can greatly assume you're kidding.

I belive Bandon Wins.....

Are you serious?

The funny thing is, the Bandon fanboys haven't even proivded proof as to why Bandon wins.

Well, he's....Bald? And his armor/robes are kind of cool I guess...I'm not coming up with much of a defense here.

Originally posted by darthsith19
Lol!


You are joking, right?

Of course.

Originally posted by darthsith19
The funny thing is, the Bandon fanboys haven't even proivded proof as to why Bandon wins.

Maybe it's because of his "coolness" when he pushed that Sith guard out of his way.

Yea i just say it because he is cool and he kicked my Characters ASS like 15 times befor i killed him

Maul wins this one, Malak would have a hard fight on his hands with Maul, maybe even losing and Bandon is weaker then his master.

Based on the available evidence, it is made clear to us that Darth Bandon was very strong in the Force and was also an accomplished warrior.

I can't say for sure that who will win in this fight but even if Maul wins, the fight will be far from easy.

I hardly think any evidence for Bandon would put him above someone so good he demolished one of the greatest duelists in the order with ease and defeated an entire army on his own

How was it made clear to us that Bandon was very strong in the Force and an accomplished warrior?

I'd like to start a formal petititon and present it to Ushgarak with the request to permenantly ban fanboys of this caliber. I'd like to invent a time machine and use it to go back in time and destroy the concept of KotoR so it wouldn't spawn such jackasses.

never be civil with LeGenD again 'til he stops beating off to his KotoR collection.]



Bandon has done shit in comparison to Maul. Maul is "one of the most deadly Sith apprentices in history" according to the TPM visual guide, he's pushed his "physical and Force-assisted abilities to the utmost", and tooled Anoon Bondara - the Order's finest swordsman - with minimal effort. What did Bandon do? Oh, yeah, he was Malak's ***** and died at Revan's hand. Ah, yes, that somehow bridges the gap of skill between him and Maul.

...Back in the real world , Bandon has done nothing to put him even on par with Maul. He'd look at Maul and piss his pants.



Of course you can't say "for sure" who will win - because you're an illogical fanboy and an inept debater - so let me clarify: Maul will win, and he will crush Bandon.

Calm down Giddyeon no need to drop a Profanity Bomb



Just a Debate

This debate is finished Maul wins hands down so why must this thread continue?! please nobody continue this pointless "debate" Mual wins and carries Bandons severed limbs out and lets the terentetek have a full stomach

Maul was killed by some angry padawan who was plain easy to see charging in. Even Yoda's mom kills Maul.

Originally posted by VinCon01
How was it made clear to us that Bandon was very strong in the Force?
Statement from the SW Databank: There he embraced the dark side and the way of the Sith with every fiber of his being. His great strength in the Force, his natural cruelty and his absolute ruthlessness in his quest for power soon set him apart from his fellow students, and drew the calculating eye of Lord Malak himself.

Originally posted by VinCon01
and an accomplished warrior?
Statement from the SW Databank: Darth Bandon proved himself to be an excellent choice. Many Jedi fell beneath the blade of his lightsaber.

Darth Bandon was so talented and skilled that some people started thinking that Bandon might be the one who would may challenge Darth Malak for the title of DLOTS in the near future. Hence check the below lines!

Statement from the SW Databank: Some in the Sith hierarchy wondered if Bandon would someday rise to challenge Malak for the mantle of Dark Lord, for that was the way of the Sith: the strong must rule, and when the apprentice surpasses the Master, the Master must fall.

Ok, Bandon perhaps was not a worthless piece of trash. Even then you have to agree that Maul is superior to him.

7 to 9! Why is the poll so close?Maul wins this.

Originally posted by kamhal
Ok, Bandon perhaps was not a worthless piece of trash. Even then you have to agree that Maul is superior to him.
Firstly, I have already proved that Darth Bandon was very strong in the Force and an accomplished warrior. So saying that "he perhaps was not a worthless piece of trash" is a biased statement.

Secondly, Darth Bandon was undefeated in combat until he met Revan. Now you know about Revan very well so I will not go in to details in case of this point.

Thus it is now clear that both Maul and Bandon were talented and skilled warriors and I have already stated my POV regarding this fight in my first post in this thread.

But Maul had Way greater training and done many unbeilevable feats.
So far the only great feats we seen of Darth Bandon was killing Trask, push a Sith Trooper in front of a droid for a dumb reason and talk alot of Shit. Bandon may have a powerful connection to the force, but Maul is simply superior to him. Having studied from one of the Greatest Dark Lords of the Sith in Galatic History; Darth Sidous, Maul takes this with ease.

SW can you tell us how many people Bandon defeated? The only person you know for sure he killed in combat was Trask yet he was not a jedi. I am going to say that Bandon probably killed jedi but how many,who they were and how powerful they are would remain in question. Bandon may have had been skilled but there is nothing to say he would defeat Maul.

Originally posted by ThoraxeRMG
But Maul had Way greater training and done many unbeilevable feats.
So far the only great feats we seen of Darth Bandon was killing Trask, push a Sith Trooper in front of a droid for a dumb reason and talk alot of Shit. Bandon may have a powerful connection to the force, but Maul is simply superior to him. Having studied from one of the Greatest Dark Lords of the Sith in Galatic History; Darth Sidous, Maul takes this with ease.
We see very limited role of bandon in the KOTOR game so we cannot accurately judge his talents from KOTOR.

SW Databank has already made it clear to us that Bandon was very strong in the Force and he had killed many Jedi by himself. So statements like "he may have powerful connection to the Force" and "his greatest feats were killing Trask and a Trooper" are purely ridiculous and are subject to logical fallacy.

Take a look at Bandon's profile in the SW website: Click!

Just curious does anyone know why revan doesn't have a profile and they stuff like Bandon was killed by agents of the republic?
But anyway for all you know he could have had help to kill those jedi,they might not have been powerful at all.

Originally posted by Darth Hord
SW can you tell us how many people Bandon defeated? The only person you know for sure he killed in combat was Trask yet he was not a jedi. I am going to say that Bandon probably killed jedi but how many,who they were and how powerful they are would remain in question. Bandon may have had been skilled but there is nothing to say he would defeat Maul.
Unfortunately, you cannot argue against what is said in a canon source. So statements like "he probably killed Jedi" are also biased in nature. It is already made clear to us from the official databank that Bandon indeed have killed many Jedi.

And Maul is not unstoppable.

Originally posted by Gideon
I'd like to start a formal petititon and present it to Ushgarak with the request to permenantly ban fanboys of this caliber. I'd like to invent a time machine and use it to go back in time and destroy the concept of KotoR so it wouldn't spawn such jackasses.

never be civil with LeGenD again 'til he stops beating off to his KotoR collection.]



Bandon has done shit in comparison to Maul. Maul is "one of the most deadly Sith apprentices in history" according to the TPM visual guide, he's pushed his "physical and Force-assisted abilities to the utmost", and tooled Anoon Bondara - the Order's finest swordsman - with minimal effort. What did Bandon do? Oh, yeah, he was Malak's ***** and died at Revan's hand. Ah, yes, that somehow bridges the gap of skill between him and Maul.

...Back in the real world , Bandon has done nothing to put him even on par with Maul. He'd look at Maul and piss his pants.



Of course you can't say "for sure" who will win - because you're an illogical fanboy and an inept debater - so let me clarify: Maul will win, and he will crush Bandon.

Nuff said here. Maul is superior to bandon in every aspect save for baldness

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Unfortunately, you cannot argue against what is said in a canon source. So statements like "he probably killed Jedi" are also biased in nature. It is already made clear to us from the official databank that Bandon have killed many Jedi.

And Maul is not unstoppable.

Now what is ambiguous is weather or not those jedi were even good in the first place, They could be so shitty that they cant even block a simple saber strike.

Quality triumphs over quantity and from what we have seen maul killing the orders finest swordsman is something to brag about while also the fact that he took down my beloved darth vader in a saber fight.

And if you do agree maul > bandon why are you even argueing in the first place? Obviously bandon is above the other dark jedi to be malaks c0ck sucker and as far as i know those dark jedi were just little pieces of amphibious shit

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Unfortunately, you cannot argue against what is said in a canon source. So statements like "he probably killed Jedi" are also biased in nature. It is already made clear to us from the official databank that Bandon indeed have killed many Jedi.

And Maul is not unstoppable.

i know he killed jedi, I'm questing the strength of said jedi and you don't know how he killed those jedi.The databank said Hell I could say that they were prisoners and he took out his lightsaber and killed them. You don't know if he had help to kill them. No one is saying he is weak, I certainly see him above the average dark jedi but Maul is one of the deadliest sith apprentices in history.

Originally posted by Manslayer
Now what is ambiguous is weather or not those jedi were even good in the first place, They could be so shitty that they cant even block a simple saber strike.
Being ambiguous does not means that those Jedi sucked because it is never stated as such.

And you just made a dumbest comment in this thread by saying that those Jedi would be so shitty that they can't even block a single saber strike.

Originally posted by Manslayer
Quality triumphs over quantity and from what we have seen maul killing the orders finest swordsman is something to brag about while also the fact that he took down my beloved darth vader in a saber fight.
Lack of detailed information does not means that triumphs of Bandon were lacking. You have to look at the bigger picture in this kind of case. Killing large number of Jedi is not a joke for any person. We expect this kind of achievement from only highly skilled warriors.

Originally posted by Darth Hord
i know he killed jedi, I'm questing the strength of said jedi and you don;t know how he killed those jedi.The databank said
Just take a good look at this comment: "Many Jedi fell beneath the blade of his lightsaber" and try to understand the logic behind it. It means that he engaged many Jedi and killed most of them due to his superior swordsmanship.

Originally posted by Darth Hord
Hell I could say that they were prisoners and he took out his lightsaber and killed them. You don't know if he had help to kill them. No one is saying he is weak, I certainly see him above the average dark jedi but Maul is one of the deadliest sith apprentices in history.
Where it is said that his victims were actually prisoners? Making absurd claims like these won't help you in any debate.

He actually killed those Jedi in the duels. And many people over here underestimated Bandon until I opened their eyes. And Maul is among the deadliest Sith apprentices in history.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Where it is said that his victims were actually prisoners? Making absurd claims like these won't help you in any debate.

I said this:

They were mostly likely not prisoners the point I was making that you don't know how he killed them.Because my ex. could have fit in the databanks description of many jedi falling beneath his blade.

Originally posted by Darth Hord
Just curious does anyone know why revan doesn't have a profile
Revan's official profile has not been created due to the issue of gender. But canonically Revan is male.

Originally posted by Darth Hord
and they stuff like Bandon was killed by agents of the republic?
This statement is true. Revan was actually an agent of the Republic during the events of the KOTOR until the revelation.

Originally posted by Darth Hord
the point I was making that you don't know how he killed them.
Oh man! what part of "fell beneath the blade of his lightsaber" you have not understood?

Originally posted by Darth Hord
Because my ex. could have fit in the databanks description of many jedi falling beneath his blade.
Sorry! It was never stated that those Jedi were his prisoners.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Revan's official profile has not been created due to the issue of his gender. But canonically Revan is male.


This statement is true. Revan was actually an agent of the Republic during the events of the KOTOR until the revelation.

I just think it is interesting that Revan's name is mentioned Malak's profile after he is betrayed.We all know he is male but that is beside the point.

I fail to see how that puts him above one of the deadliest Sith apprentices

Originally posted by Lightsnake
I fail to see how that puts him above one of the deadliest Sith apprentices
"one of the" - hmm!

Bandon can also be one of them.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Oh man! what part of "fell beneath the blade of his lightsaber" you have not understood?

I KNOW WHAT IT MEANS! I was just playing the devil's advacant and saying that to prove the point is not clear how the jedi died. I know Bandon killed them but that does not rule out the possibility in battle the sith troopers could injure them and Bandon finishes them off.

Originally posted by Darth Hord
I KNOW WHAT IT MEANS! I was just playing the devil's advacant and saying that to prove the point is not clear how the jedi died. I know Bandon killed them but that does not rule out the possibility in battle the sith troopers could injure them and Bandon finishes them off.
Actually you failed to note that the word "blade" is actually present in that sentence and the word "Sith Troopers" is absent in that sentence.

So we are actually left with the "Bandon with his blade" logic and image.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Actually you failed to note that the word "blade" is actually present in that sentence and the word "Sith Troopers" is absent in that sentence. So we are left with this "Bandon with his blade" logic.

I forgot to type it that time but I did include it in the quote about many jedi falling etc. The part about the sit troopers I'm trying to say that since he was a sith apprentice during the jedi civil war which means he most likely was in many battles and it is possible he could have been saved from death by the sith troopers. But it really doesn't matter since I was making examples as it is not clear about how strong the jedi were,and everything else we mentioned. The point is your quotes show Bandon is more powefful them some people said but the way you posted things seemed to say that you think Maul can lose this.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Bandon can also be one of them.

But you'd have to prove that.

What does it matter exactly if many Jedi fell to his lightsaber? It of course does speak about his dominance, as does his position as second in command. He was logically one of the top dogs around. It only speaks of his dominance during that time period, however. If Bandon were to face Anoon or even someone like Saesee Tiin, he'd be dicked royally. Taken seriously, there is no way to justify Bandon defeating Maul.

* Maul "mastered the lightsaber." The same type that Bandon uses.
* Maul is a Teras Kasi master and uses it in his fighting style.
* Maul dodged an explosion when he only has a "microsecond" to get out of the way.
* Maul survived for a month against legions of Assassin droids who I doubt left him the luxury of sleep.
* Maul learned from Darth "MF'ing" Sidious.
* Maul almost killed the Same Darth "MF'ing" Sidious in a saber duel.
* Maul was confident that he could defeat "any" Jedi he encountered(and well educated about Jedi).
* Maul defeated an energized Qui Gon (Windu's equal) in thirty Seconds and left Obi Wan, when using all his rage, hanging from a pit.
* Maul is "one of the deadliest Sith Apprentices in history."
* Maul dominated over Anoon Bondara who's lightsaber skills were "second to none" (including Yoda), was a master of Teras Kasi, was the Jedi Battle Master, gave easy beatdowns to the likes of Qui Gon, was extremely adaptive (His Padawan Ashat who revealed "strong Force tendencies even as an infant" wished to one day have "one tenth" of Anoon's adeptness.)
* Maul has "far superior darkside knowledge" than Mighella, a powerful Night Sister.
* Maul can "swat blaster bolts away like flies" shot from a very competent Bounty Hunter.
* Maul has spun his lightsaber so fast that it seemed to merge into a "single crimson shield."
* Maul defeated an army of Black Sun thugs, and defeated "seven of the most powerful" people in the Universe in less time than it takes to say it.
* Maul was a "warrior in his prime."

That's just for starters.

Thank you.

Suffice it to say, he curbstomps Bandon.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
"one of the" - hmm!

Bandon can also be one of them.
That you'll have to prove.

Maul effortlessly defeated one of the finest swordsmen the Order had ever seen. He also defeated Qui-Gon Jinn, a man held to be another of the best duelists of the Order.

That's two very impressive named kills to Maul's resume.

bandon, by contrast, did not defeat anyone known to be truly impressive

Let me explain something to you:

Fell (In this manner of use): To have succumbed, generally to an attack.

Beneath (In this manner of use): Underneath.

Blade: A cutting or thrusting weapon that has a long metal blade (Though obviously the lightsaber isn't a metal blade).


"Many Jedi fell beneath his blade". You provided the quote, and that's what it said. Now you have to prove that the fell beneath his blade in combat, that they fell beneath his blade in one-on-one combat, and that they were remotely impressive duelists in the first place. The profile doesn't say it wasn't in combat, but it doesn't say it was in combat. The profile doesn't say he had help, but it doesn't say he did it on his own. The profile doesn't say they weren't good duelists, but it doesn't say they were good duelists either. You're the one who has to prove that they were good duelists, seeing as you're the one bringing the point forward and presenting the evidence (In other words, you have the burden of proof). And unfortunately for you, "Many Jedi fell beneath his blade" doesn't cover that. Falling beneath his blade simply means that he's the one who dealt the final killing blow with his blade. It doesn't say anything about how it was performed.

It also fails to specify exactly what qualifies as "many". It could be anywhere from ten to ten thousand.


For your point of "It didn't say Sith Troopers" to work, it would have to have said that he did it on his own, with no help whatsoever. Because if it didn't, I have an equally valid and very similar defense of "It didn't say that he didn't have help with him either, only that he finished them". And considering he generally has help when you face him, it's not helping your argument much.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Being ambiguous does not means that those Jedi sucked because it is never stated as such.
Neither was those jedi stated to be even on the level of a padawan qui gon jin
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

And you just made a dumbest comment in this thread by saying that those Jedi would be so shitty that they can't even block a single saber strike. I said COULD not would

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

Lack of detailed information does not means that triumphs of Bandon were lacking. You have to look at the bigger picture in this kind of case. Killing large number of Jedi is not a joke for any person. We expect this kind of achievement from only highly skilled warriors. And we dont even know who those jedi were and if they were even decent

Originally posted by VinCon01
Let me explain something to you:

Fell (In this manner of use): To have succumbed, generally to an attack.

Beneath (In this manner of use): Underneath.

Blade: A cutting or thrusting weapon that has a long metal blade (Though obviously the lightsaber isn't a metal blade).


"Many Jedi fell beneath his blade". You provided the quote, and that's what it said. Now you have to prove that the fell beneath his blade in combat, that they fell beneath his blade in one-on-one combat, and that they were remotely impressive duelists in the first place. The profile doesn't say it wasn't in combat, but it doesn't say it was in combat. The profile doesn't say he had help, but it doesn't say he did it on his own. The profile doesn't say they weren't good duelists, but it doesn't say they were good duelists either. You're the one who has to prove that they were good duelists, seeing as you're the one bringing the point forward and presenting the evidence (In other words, you have the burden of proof). And unfortunately for you, "Many Jedi fell beneath his blade" doesn't cover that. Falling beneath his blade simply means that he's the one who dealt the final killing blow with his blade. It doesn't say anything about how it was performed.

It also fails to specify exactly what qualifies as "many". It could be anywhere from ten to ten thousand.


For your point of "It didn't say Sith Troopers" to work, it would have to have said that he did it on his own, with no help whatsoever. Because if it didn't, I have an equally valid and very similar defense of "It didn't say that he didn't have help with him either, only that he finished them". And considering he generally has help when you face him, it's not helping your argument much.

A tad nit-picky but it is still correct. To assume that he defeated a few Jedi in one on one combat is an assumption, but not a bad one. Of course, these Padawans, Knights, or even Masters were probably not much of note, but, Bandon had to be at least a reasonable combatant.

Originally posted by Gideon
Thank you.

Suffice it to say, he curbstomps Bandon.

In one min. or 30 seconds?

Yeah, I can be a bit nit-picky at times. I'm still a bit used to the long, drawn out debates where you pick at basically everything that's said (Especially if it gives you an advantage in the debate, trivial, petty, and nit-picky as it might seem).

However, I'm not sure if I'm coming off this way, but I want to make it clear that I don't think Bandon was some completely useless nobody. I don't think he was anywhere near Maul's class, but he certainly wasn't average. Based on what I've seen, he was better than most of the "regular" Jedi and Sith during the Jedi Civil War, but he simply isn't one of the better fighters in the whole story of Star Wars. It also hurts him that we really don't know much about him. We have a few vague comments/quotes, but we don't know any details that would help us judge his abilities more.

Maul, on the other hand, has several specific feats that we're aware of. This includes taking some of the best duelists in the Jedi Order down, and holding off an extremely skilled Jedi (Qui Gon) while simultaneously dealing with his highly skilled apprentice. He then kills said Jedi one-on-one, and would have killed his apprentice as well if he hadn't suffered from a sudden case of AIS (Arrogance Induced Stupidity) and had just given him a Force push instead of screwing around.

Agreed.

Although, I'd call it PIS (Plot Induced Stupidity), not AIS. Maul was trained to be and was smart.

YES ANOTHER ONE OF MY STUPID DEBATE THREADS CAUSED A DEBATE YES!

Originally posted by MasterAshenVor
YES ANOTHER ONE OF MY STUPID DEBATE THREADS CAUSED A DEBATE YES!

THUNDERSTRIKE HOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

Originally posted by jollyjim311
What does it matter exactly if many Jedi fell to his lightsaber? It of course does speak about his dominance, as does his position as second in command. He was logically one of the top dogs around. It only speaks of his dominance during that time period, however. If Bandon were to face Anoon or even someone like Saesee Tiin, he'd be dicked royally. Taken seriously, there is no way to justify Bandon defeating Maul.

* Maul "mastered the lightsaber." The same type that Bandon uses.
* Maul is a Teras Kasi master and uses it in his fighting style.
* Maul dodged an explosion when he only has a "microsecond" to get out of the way.
* Maul survived for a month against legions of Assassin droids who I doubt left him the luxury of sleep.
* Maul learned from Darth "MF'ing" Sidious.
* Maul almost killed the Same Darth "MF'ing" Sidious in a saber duel.
* Maul was confident that he could defeat "any" Jedi he encountered(and well educated about Jedi).
* Maul defeated an energized Qui Gon (Windu's equal) in thirty Seconds and left Obi Wan, when using all his rage, hanging from a pit.
* Maul is "one of the deadliest Sith Apprentices in history."
* Maul dominated over Anoon Bondara who's lightsaber skills were "second to none" (including Yoda), was a master of Teras Kasi, was the Jedi Battle Master, gave easy beatdowns to the likes of Qui Gon, was extremely adaptive (His Padawan Ashat who revealed "strong Force tendencies even as an infant" wished to one day have "one tenth" of Anoon's adeptness.)
* Maul has "far superior darkside knowledge" than Mighella, a powerful Night Sister.
* Maul can "swat blaster bolts away like flies" shot from a very competent Bounty Hunter.
* Maul has spun his lightsaber so fast that it seemed to merge into a "single crimson shield."
* Maul defeated an army of Black Sun thugs, and defeated "seven of the most powerful" people in the Universe in less time than it takes to say it.
* Maul was a "warrior in his prime."

That's just for starters.
I'm stealing this and putting it in my profile...

Originally posted by darthsith19
I'm stealing this and putting it in my profile...

Flattered?

I'm stealing your fingers, but I'll rent them to you for the cost of a wiggle a day.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Flattered?

I'm stealing your fingers, but I'll rent them to you for the cost of a wiggle a day.
no

Fine. Go a day without a single wiggle and see what happens.

fear

Originally posted by jollyjim311
* Maul could spin his saber real fast etc etc etc.
* Maul almost killed the Same Darth "MF'ing" Sidious in a saber duel.
If that actually happens in a book the author must be a f*cking clown. Sidious even finishes jedi masters like Kit Fatso off in mere seconds. Maul is killed by a padawan dealing an obvious blow. His only plus point was his lightzabor, not his brain. He never says much because he's simple.

1) You have to remember that Sidious hasn't actually been in a fight for years when he has those fights. Meaning that, despite years on end without any serious practice (No duels with Jedi or other Force Users, anyway), he still manages to hold his own against, and defeat, people who are renowned for their saber and Force-related abilities.

2) I wouldn't really say it was an "obvious blow". The guy was just a Padawan, and you have to admit that he was in a pretty crappy position. He was barely hanging on, so I doubt Maul expected him to suddenly leap out full speed. The poor Sith Lord was probably a bit surprised.

Originally posted by overlord
If that actually happens in a book the author must be a f*cking clown. Sidious even finishes jedi masters like Kit Fatso off in mere seconds. Maul is killed by a padawan dealing an obvious blow. His only plus point was his lightzabor, not his brain. He never says much because he's simple.

Maul was pissed, and yes, it did happen. He is just that good.

Maul being killed was PIS.

Maul was actually trained by Sidious to be "smarter than any foe could anticipate." He caused battles within the Black Sun. He led Qui Gon to where he could get him alone. The only reason Maul doesn't talk much is because saying anything to Sidious (who was Maul's only real person to have conversations with) is redundant. He already knows.

To clarify, Maul attacked him in rage and Sidious was caught off guard. However, Sidious did regain the upper hand and disarmed him. Then Maul bit his hand. Kinky.

didn't he also trace Maul's outline with his saber to where he couldn't move so much as an inch? After the fact?

After the fact?

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
didn't he also trace Maul's outline with his saber to where he couldn't move so much as an inch? After the fact?

If that's true I'll be pissed that they didn't use the metric system (and I'm from the U.S.)

Originally posted by jollyjim311
If that's true I'll be pissed that they didn't use the metric system (and I'm from the U.S.)

lol