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All-out fight off nexus, who wins?

Vitiate.

Krayt

Vitiate pwns him.

No one's pwning Krayt.

Vitiate.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
No one's pwning Krayt.

Really? Even the Son of Mortis?

Vitiate.

Originally posted by Sinious
Really? Even the Son of Mortis?

True. But Vitiate is well beneath the Son of Mortis.

Yeah Son of Mortis is like the most powerful Dark Side user.

And Krayt is beneath Vitiate by a margin. Not saying he is weak but I don't see Krayt surviving Vitiate's lightning or mindrape.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yeah Son of Mortis is like the most powerful Dark Side user.

Originally posted by Sinious
And Krayt is beneath Vitiate by a margin. Not saying he is weak but I don't see Krayt surviving Vitiate's lightning or mindrape.

Barring some major prep, Vitiate won't be mindraping any notably powerful Force user per Karpyshyn. Especially not in the context of a duel.

No one other than the Anchorites or Abeloth will be pwning Krayt.

I wonder if the Father was the culmination of both sides or just the light side. If the former is true, he is technically the most powerful dark side user.

Wow, that escalated quickly.

Restatement... Son is the most powerful Dark Side aligned character.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Barring some major prep, Vitiate won't be mindraping any notably powerful Force user per Karpyshyn. Especially not in the context of a duel.

No one other than the Anchorites or Abeloth will be pwning Krayt.

I'm not sure how level 40ish HoT is so below Krayt. Vitiate one-shot him along with several other jedi who were considered to be the strongest of their era.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Restatement... Son is the most powerful Dark Side aligned character.

I have waited a long time for this moment.

Krayt is like Vader, Nox, Revan, Malgus level so barring mindrape haxx Vitiate shouldn't "pwn" him. Though he will beat him rather swiftly with lightning, I'd think.

Vitiate.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
No one's pwning Krayt.

I should rephrase then. I know that once someone reaches this tier, they won't be pwned by any other sith/jedi in a 1on1 battle. What I meant to say was that the obvious victor is Vitiate here and it wouldn't be a great challenge for him to defeat Krayt.

How does Vitiate pwn Krayt? Krayt is very powerful in his own right and in an outright fight he definitely carries a lot of advantages under his belt.

Vitiate isn't pwning anyone and he isn't winning the fight.

Well Krayt isn't getting mindf*cked by anyone, Vitiate gets roflstomped if he pulls out a lightsaber.

As far as Force abilities go, I would love to see the counters Vitiate has against stuff like Dark Transfer and that ridonculous Force Lightning Krayt can summon.

lol this is so amusing.

Originally posted by Sinious
lol this is so amusing.
Agreed LOL

Originally posted by Sinious
I wonder if the Father was the culmination of both sides or just the light side. If the former is true, he is technically the most powerful dark side user.

OMG! The Father is secretly Revan!!!!!

That means:

Daughter = Exile
Son = Scourge

It all makes sense now! Revan was supposed to make an appearance in the Mortis arc and it turns out that he actually did.

Ant will be so pleased by this revelation.

And it is obvious that Revan is equally powerful which means he is the strongest jedi ever.

Oh wait, does that mean Bastila is Abeloth?

Nyriss is Abeloth.
She did keep him caged in a cell.
I'll let you come to your own conclusions.

But Revan never banged Nyriss where Father and Abeloth were so hot together.

Originally posted by i37 Is Back
Vitiate stomps. Krayt isn't even a true Sith lol.


I'd like to hear your definition of 'Sith' that doesn't include 'taught by one of the very founders of the Sith.'

Unfortunately for these basic claims, Krayt unlocked one of the most powerful techniques in the mythos, that evidently, even Vitiate doesn't know.

Good luck beating a guy that gets up every time you kill him, good luck fighting back when he insta-kills you.

Krayt went stupid OP when he was 'reborn' but nevertheless he is very powerful.

Originally posted by i37 Is Back
Krayt isn't any better than Mighella in that aspect, tbh.


Mighella didn't learn the dark side of the force from XoXaan, one of the strongest of the original twelve Dark Lords of the Sith.


Again, I am curious what definition of Sith you're using that leaves out students of the original Sith.




Wow, that's incredibly dumb


Jedi A'Sharad Hett could've demolished Skorr. Heck, Hett could've done so well before he was a master.


And, relatedly:


Really now? Darth Bane is only 'marginally' above Quinlan Vos?

Are your rankings based on anything but who you most like? ^^

Krayt was actually taught by one of the founders of the sith so that claim is dumb. Anyways, Vitiate wins but doesnt' stomp.

Q, this is likely Intrepid. Just ignore him.

Lets see.. A true sith is either:
A. One of the red skinned species
or
B. Taught by one of the founders of the sith. Either way, you lose. Moving on.

Originally posted by Sinious
Really? Even the Son of Mortis?

Abeloth.

Originally posted by i37 Is Back
Krayt learning from XoXaan doesn't make him notable.

No, his accomplishments and power make him notable. The training of XoXaan makes him a Sith.




You do realize both the original Sith and Vitiate had an Empire too, right? Having an order does not make one not-sith.

Heck, Vitiate's ideology is much closer to his than either of them are to the Rule of 2 sith.

And both are not like Kaan- Kaan claimed equality and compromise. Krayt claimed rulership based on power.





Hett beat Aurra Sing, who's defeated masters, and was considered very formidable and proved to be a tough fight for Obi-Wan Kenobi.

Tough fight for Kenobi, who's above Vos.




Bane was dueling both one of the best swordweilders of his era (Raskta Lsu) and better force users of his era (Farfalla) at the same time, both battlemeditated, and they were unable to gain an edge.

He's got great force feats, dueling feats, yadda yadda.





Liking that I can back up ^^

And power and liking are two very different things. There are characters that I like who are weak, and one that I like that are strong.

I'm not really seeing anything supporting any of your points, just making empty claims and trying to deflect from backing them up.





Yea, I guess the Bane thing is a bit of a tipoff.

Oh, and the name. Yikes, I really wasn't paying attention, was it?

Originally posted by i37 Is Back
I see you took the bait.

Yup.. You baited me. Wonderful rationalization in the midst of a failing argument.

And gone now ^^ That did indeed not take long.

One wonders what goes in the heads of the, "I'll say something wrong. Ah ha, you responded! That means I win, right? Right?" type.

He wins if he manages to waste your time.

He's wasting his time, too.

Originally posted by Nalaniel
He's wasting his time, too.

Perhaps not in his opinion, which is sad

Originally posted by Nalaniel
He's wasting his time, too.

His time isnt worth **** so he doesn't care.

Originally posted by Nalaniel
He's wasting his time, too.
Yes but he has... absolutely no life.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
No one's pwning Krayt.


I'd argue that there are a few force users who can solidly defeat Krayt. Krayt, IMO, is just a bit above Dooku in the force. I use to think otherwise. It was actually NewGuys' arguments that convinced me he has an edge over Dooku in force powers, even despite that I've read all of the Legacy comics for myself.

While Vitiate may be a bit above Krayt in the force, his most impressive combat feat isn't enough to take Krayt out, IMO. He's not overwhelming Krayt with the lightning, given Krayts immense strength and durability, and he has no fighting skills to fall back on against Krayt.

Plus Krayt has the ability to redirect lightning or intercept it with his own lightning that's powerful enough to shatter stone walls. Basically he has far more ways in defending against Vitiate's greatest attack than the 4 jedi that Vitiate did take out.