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who wins?

Don't know what Vision's limits against heat and flame are, he phased through to knock out Android Human Torch, but he was at regular heat level, don't know what would of happened if he was a super nova heat level.

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Interesting.

Does Vision technically have a soul ?

Originally posted by pulsar
Don't know what Vision's limits against heat and flame are, he phased through to knock out Android Human Torch, but he was at regular heat level, don't know what would of happened if he was a super nova heat level.
Human Torch once handed him his ass in the 90s and they were just practicing.Originally posted by grey fox
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Interesting.

Does Vision technically have a soul ? Damn wheres Raven when someone needs to see their own soul!!!

Originally posted by python99
who wins?

which gr

Vision could just phase through GR's blast...

Originally posted by guy222
which gr

Blaze

Originally posted by python99
Blaze Current or Classic?

Keepin' it simple classic both characters but no amateur nonsense. No rookies here

Originally posted by python99
Keepin' it simple classic both characters but no amateur nonsense. No rookies here

Blaze FTW

Classic Ghost Rider might not get a chance to build up enough power to beat The Vision. Since classic GR wasn't shown to be healed so fast like current.

Originally posted by Rewmac
Classic Ghost Rider might not get a chance to build up enough power to beat The Vision. Since classic GR wasn't shown to be healed so fast like current.

Classic GR beat Hulk

Originally posted by guy222
Classic GR beat Hulk And how did he do that? He burned oxygen around the Hulk so that he can't breathe and revert back to Banner.

Originally posted by grey fox
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Interesting.

Does Vision technically have a soul ?

Now that is a very interesting question. hmm Ok, we know Vision was able to think, feel and have emotions. We know that he can love. Problem is, what constitutes a soul? And if Vision had one, it may have left when he was dismantled by the US govt. Currently? Can't say. If any android was close enough to having one, I'd definitely put Vision high on the list.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Now that is a very interesting question. hmm Ok, we know Vision was able to think, feel and have emotions. We know that he can love. Problem is, what constitutes a soul? And if Vision had one, it may have left when he was dismantled by the US govt. Currently? Can't say. If any android was close enough to having one, I'd definitely put Vision high on the list.


Well vision can apparently be affectted by telepathy but to a high degree so you are talking about some serious mind readers here. He must have some kind of soul

GR here.

still close

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Now that is a very interesting question. hmm Ok, we know Vision was able to think, feel and have emotions. We know that he can love. Problem is, what constitutes a soul? And if Vision had one, it may have left when he was dismantled by the US govt. Currently? Can't say. If any android was close enough to having one, I'd definitely put Vision high on the list.

Perhaps an electronic facsimile ?

An alternate GR was able to use his Penance Stare effectively on an artificial being (Death Metal).

His powers seemed to be the same, but I realize it's not a strictly canon reference.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/earthcharnel.htm

Still, I think it would probably work on Vision.

anyone else?