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How many cosmic cubes would it take to match the I.G?
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Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
How many cosmic cubes would it take to match the I.G?
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Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
How many cosmic cubes would it take to match the I.G?
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"The Goddess" possessed 30 CCU's and merged them into the Cosmic Egg:
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/1842/cosmicegg30ccgi2.th.jpg



This was enough energy for the Goddess to potentially spread her power across the entire MU...


"Let the Universe know that enrapture will soon be upon them":
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/173/ig1kr0.th.jpg


"And the Gospel will spread even beyond these vast reaches, throughout ALL realities!":
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5065/ig2sx8.th.jpg




Yet despite this vast power, even The Goddess admitted that the IG was still a FAR more potent force:
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/8723/igmorethan30ccmb2hm8.th.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5671/ig3ll5.th.jpg




So how many CCU's would it take to = the IG?

More then 30. dur

Originally posted by Galan007
Let's see...


"The Goddess" possessed 30 CCU's and merged them into the Cosmic Egg:
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/1842/cosmicegg30ccgi2.th.jpg



This was enough energy for the Goddess to potentially spread her power across the entire MU...


"Let the Universe know that enrapture will soon be upon them":
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/173/ig1kr0.th.jpg


"And the Gospel will spread even beyond these vast reaches, throughout ALL realities!":
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5065/ig2sx8.th.jpg




Yet despite this vast power, even The Goddess admitted that the IG was still a FAR more potent force:
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/8723/igmorethan30ccmb2hm8.th.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5671/ig3ll5.th.jpg




So how many CCU's would it take to = the IG?

More then 30. dur

Even then her plan would only have worked because she was going to trick the Cubes into over riding there inhibitions. Since that was based on zealotry IIRC even if someone else had that many cubes they would be even less of a threat.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
even if someone else had that many cubes they would be even less of a threat. Unless you're Thanos, lol.

Originally posted by Galan007
Unless you're Thanos, lol. Wasn't that like the Cubes, second showing?
I think Red Skull had a good feat as well.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Wasn't that like the Cubes, second showing?
I think Red Skull had a good feat as well. So did Zemo...

But that "feat" was a little much, imo.

Originally posted by Galan007
So did Zemo...

But that "feat" was a little much, imo. You mean, before the Cubes were played down to be practically nothing?

It hardly makes it a little much, considering the Cubes seemed to be ret conned, after that.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
You mean, before the Cubes were played down to be practically nothing?

It hardly makes it a little much, considering the Cubes seemed to be ret conned, after that. No, I meant the instance when Zemo /w/ a CCU was affecting Multiveses.

A CCU went from Universal, to greater then Multiversal, in one damn story.


A tad over the top? lol

Mr. Master actually put the Cubes higher than the IG in his cosmic thread.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Mr. Master actually put the Cubes higher than the IG in his cosmic thread.

Captain Britian and MJJ are above I.G. as well. . .

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Captain Britian and MJJ are above I.G. as well. . .

Originally posted by Galan007


I didn't make the tier shrug

Originally posted by Galan007
No, I meant the instance when Zemo /w/ a CCU was affecting Multiveses.

A CCU went from Universal, to greater then Multiversal, in one damn story.

Not exactly brother G,


In the Chaos Engine Trilogy,

a Single Cosmic Cube affected the entire Omniverse before:



http://www.marveldirectory.com/miscellaneous/cosmiccube.htm

Doom demanded the Cube change the Universe to match his dreams, but this nascent Cube could not enact such massive change, and instead found a universe similar to Doom's desires, Earth-892, and overlaid that onto Doom's Universe (Earth-616).

The overlapping UniverseS created great instability, and had the side-effect of chronically draining both Doom and the Cube, aging them at an accelerated rate. Omniversal Guardian Roma observed the destabilization, and sent Earth-616's X-Men (who had been briefly outside their own Universe) to investigate.

They failed to stop Doom,

and instead the mutant Magneto gained control of the Cube, and laid yet Another Universe on top of the pair in answer to Magneto's dreams.

Matters worsened when Earth-616's Red Skull, who had re-formed and had been observing the chaos from a Catholite protected base on the moon, stole the Cube and laid yet a Fourth Reality on top of the others.







http://www.marvunapp.com/master/chaochaz.htm

CHAOS ENGINE - Cosmic Cube created by Dr. Doom, used in effort to Re-write Reality,

actually merged Earth-616 and Earth-892 to form Earth-Chaos Engine: Dr. Doom by Dr. Doom,

then used to further Merge/Re-structure that Reality by Magneto to form Earth-Chaos Engine: Magneto,

and then again by the Red Skull to form Earth-Chaos Engine: Red Skull;

these alterations affected the entire Omniverse and threatened ALL Reality?



(references) *

(X-Men / Dr. Doom: Chaos Engine: Book One)

(X-Men / Magneto: Chaos Engine: Book Two)

(X-Men / Red Skull: Chaos Engine: Book Three)

Originally posted by Galan007
Let's see...

"The Goddess" possessed 30 CCU's and merged them into the Cosmic Egg:
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/1842/cosmicegg30ccgi2.th.jpg

So how many CCU's would it take to = the IG?

More then 30. dur

Remember that the Goddess' "Will" was a joke,
and therefore could not harness the power of a Cube efficiently.

The Goddess had 30 Cubes and couldn't even Warp the Universe in one shot.

Magus had 5 CCUs and managed to create a duplicate 616 Universe from scratch,
and proceeded to Merge the Duplicate with the actual 616 Reality.



Thanos became the Universe with One.

Korvac Re-created his Universe or 72 times in a Captain America issue with One Cube.




On top of that according to Mephisto:

Cosmic Containment Units LIMIT themselves before reaching sentience:

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/3929/cosmiccubesareallpowerful1wc.th.jpg
"The UNITS are All-Powerful, but simply REFUSE to break certain SELF-IMPOSED taboos"


He even compares a single CCU to the IG.



In the Goddess' hands, 30 CCU ain't much,
she needed the Will of all sentience in the Universe to commune with her in order to manipulate the Cube.

Goddayum!!!!

"KosMik KuBe iS tEh gODz"

durr

Cosmic Cubes Potential > Infinity Gem's >> Cosmic Cubes

A good topic would be Trube Beyonders vs Pre-creation Infinity Being (Nemessis)

Since--
Infinity Being >> Infinity Gauntlet
True Beyonders >> Cosmic Cubes True Potential

True Beyonders need more stories, they are an intresting and powerful part of marvels cosmology. instead of marvel creating new overpowered plot devices that surpass I.G. *cough*HOTU*cough* .

Something that I don't completely get. If the Cosmic Cubes are all-powerful but limit themselves before they reach sentience, why then did Kubik admit to Kosmos that their power was beneath the Celestials?

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Something that I don't completely get. If the Cosmic Cubes are all-powerful but limit themselves before they reach sentience, why then did Kubik admit to Kosmos that their power was beneath the Celestials?

Because Kubik is a Sentient Cube being.

Mephisto was talking about the actual Containment Units,
before they develop into a Kubik or Kosmos.


Either the CCU has some form of Sentience separated from the Cube Beings
or, it's a premeditated precaution on the BeyonderS' part, not too sure.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Because Kubik is a Sentient Cube being.

Mephisto was talking about the actual Containment Units,
before they develop into a Kubik or Kosmos.


Either the CCU has some form of Sentience separated from the Cube Beings
or, it's a premeditated precaution on the BeyonderS' part, not too sure.

If such is the case, then I think it's a little far fetched to assume that the Cosmic Cubes are above the IG since what they can do when they don't have restrictions has never been seen. Until they do, both the "restricted" Cosmic Cubes and the cube beings are far below the IG.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Something that I don't completely get. If the Cosmic Cubes are all-powerful but limit themselves before they reach sentience, why then did Kubik admit to Kosmos that their power was beneath the Celestials?
No the cosmic cubes have the power, they just don't use it, cube beings are born from the cubes and are limited by them, as the cube limit themsevles, their true potential is omniversal though (if you removed the limits)

Originally posted by celestialdemon
I think it's a little far fetched to assume that the Cosmic Cubes are above the IG since what they can do when they don't have restrictions has never been seen.

Full potential Cosmic Containment Units have been seen twice, on panel.


During the Chaos Engine Trilogy:

One CCU, created Three UniverseS from scratch,
then merged all of them with the 616 Universe.

This same Single CCU,
nearly destroyed the Omniverse according to Roma.




During the Iron-Man X-O crossover,

One CCU erased then re-created the Omniverse on it's own (Zemo never had control)

That same CCU, remade the Omniverse several times,
before putting everything back in place.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Korvac Re-created his Universe or 72 times in a Captain America issue with One Cube. I remember that issue now.... It was horrible.

Originally posted by Galan007
I remember that issue now.... It was horrible.

Perhaps,

but a feat is a feat.



Edit*


Korvac Remakes his Universe over 72 times with one CCU:

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7881/kuni2fr5.th.jpg

Korvac continued to Re-create this Universe many more times.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Perhaps,

but a feat is a feat.



Edit*


Korvac Remakes his Universe over 72 times with one CCU:

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7881/kuni2fr5.th.jpg

Korvac continued to Re-create this Universe many more times.

Mr. M, wat issue is that

Originally posted by guy222
Mr. M, wat issue is that

Captain America v3 #18

Originally posted by Mr Master
Captain America v3 #18

Thanks, Mr. M

Originally posted by Mr Master
Perhaps,

but a feat is a feat.



Edit*


Korvac Remakes his Universe over 72 times with one CCU:

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7881/kuni2fr5.th.jpg

Korvac continued to Re-create this Universe many more times.

Korvac is a f*ckwit

Originally posted by Mr Master
Perhaps,

but a feat is a feat. I don't read comics for their feats though, .

Originally posted by Mr Master
Full potential Cosmic Containment Units have been seen twice, on panel.


During the Chaos Engine Trilogy:

One CCU, created Three UniverseS from scratch,
then merged all of them with the 616 Universe.

This same Single CCU,
nearly destroyed the Omniverse according to Roma.




During the Iron-Man X-O crossover,

One CCU erased then re-created the Omniverse on it's own (Zemo never had control)

That same CCU, remade the Omniverse several times,
before putting everything back in place.

Gotcha. Makes me wonder why the Magus, being as brilliant as he was, never bothered to try finding a way to remove the limitations set on the cubes instead of depending on the IG.