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Namor,
Thing,
Collossus,
Hercules,
The Incredible Hulk,
Juggernaut.

Is is conceviable that he could achieve a win, by picking them off one at time?

superman goes down hard. hulk can take him on one on one, with the other fighters he gets rushed. look how easily the avengers took him down after thor was knocked out. this is a supes getting curbstomped event.

He could win easy no matter what unless you take out a blitz or force him to fight completely in character.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
He could win easy no matter what unless you take out a blitz or force him to fight completely in character. BFR into space for the win

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
He could win easy no matter what unless you take out a blitz or force him to fight completely in character. not a chance. he fought hulk to a standstill almost he won. but with all the other forces supes getshammered.

Originally posted by quanchi112
not a chance. he fought hulk to a standstill almost he won. but with all the other forces supes getshammered.

Non canon

Also Superman can beat Hulk without too much trouble if he fights seriously.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Non canon

Also Superman can beat Hulk without too much trouble if he fights seriously. no he doesnt. look at jla avenegers and see what happens to supes after he knocks out thor. see how long he lasts there.

Originally posted by quanchi112
no he doesnt. look at jla avenegers and see what happens to supes after he knocks out thor. see how long he lasts there.

How about this. We look at canon fights where Superman demonstrates what he can do.

It's very simple really. Superman grabs Hulk and tosses him back into space. BFR ftw.

Unless Supes fights completely in characters he'll win this.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
How about this. We look at canon fights where Superman demonstrates what he can do.

It's very simple really. Superman grabs Hulk and tosses him back into space. BFR ftw.

Unless Supes fights completely in characters he'll win this. jla avenegers is canon. supes go owned by weaker characters after he knocked thor out. its simple supes gets manhandled.

I love how we take the character traits out of the fighters, and basically turn them into powersets.


Lol

Originally posted by UniOmni
I love how we take the character traits out of the fighters, and basically turn them into powersets.


Lol

Do you have anything to do but troll? doped

Originally posted by UniOmni
I love how we take the character traits out of the fighters, and basically turn them into powersets.


Lol I'm just looking at this from a strategic standpoint.

Namor is the only flyer and while he may get one or two good shots on Superman Namor easily looses.

after that superman gets to pick and choose who he fights and use his speed to BFR them.

Originally posted by Newjak
I'm just looking at this from a strategic standpoint.

Namor is the only flyer and while he may get one or two good shots on Superman Namor easily looses.

after that superman gets to pick and choose who he fights and use his speed to BFR them.

Superman will stand there and let them beat in him because he's such a nice guy doped

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Superman will stand there and let them beat in him because he's such a nice guy doped Meh based on showing and who has knocked Superman around. Namor does possess the ability to throw knock Superman around some. He still gets stomped but he cna get a few good shots in.

Originally posted by Newjak
I'm just looking at this from a strategic standpoint.

Namor is the only flyer and while he may get one or two good shots on Superman Namor easily looses.

after that superman gets to pick and choose who he fights and use his speed to BFR them.

..is my thinking also. While everyone is an earthbound brick, the only real threat initially is Namor. And he can't take Clark alone.

However, my thread states: is it conceivable that he COULD win? Not WILL he win?

Originally posted by Newjak
Meh based on showing and who has knocked Superman around. Namor does possess the ability to throw knock Superman around some. He still gets stomped but he cna get a few good shots in.

I don't deny that, lotsa people have knocked Superman around H2H. But the moment Superman decides to end this fight he's more than capable of doing it.

Originally posted by BobbyD
..is my thinking also. While everyone is an earthbound brick, the only real threat initially is Namor. And he can't take Clark alone.

However, my thread states: is it conceivable that he COULD win? Not WILL he win? no supes falls hard. hulk alone could macth up well with supes. let alone give him lots of help ajnd supes gets hammered.

The only person on this thread that can fight Superman in almost every needed power is Namor and he looses badly.

The only person with the power to beat Superman is Juggernaut and that is only because when written to his best is more than a simple brick but more than likely he gets BFRed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
no supes falls hard. hulk alone could macth up well with supes. let alone give him lots of help ajnd supes gets hammered.

Originally posted by grey fox


Thats what happens when a character has infinite anything.

Flash + Hulk + ermm there must be others.

Superman wins, they would never hit him.

supes got manhandled in averngers jla crossover. he gets utterly decimated here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
supes got manhandled in averngers jla crossover. he gets utterly decimated here.

But, how Q? Please tell me how?

Originally posted by BobbyD
But, how Q? Please tell me how? soon as he took out thor reast of avengers seuixed on him and crushed him... he was zapped oput instantly, where was his speed them. quit acting like seups can crush everyone. hulk pissed off would be more than a macth for supes and supes would have to exert himself. with help supes gets zapped again.

Supes wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
soon as he took out thor reast of avengers seuixed on him and crushed him... he was zapped oput instantly, where was his speed them. quit acting like seups can crush everyone. hulk pissed off would be more than a macth for supes and supes would have to exert himself. with help supes gets zapped again. Captain America KOed Hulk in 3 shots in Fallen Son: Spiderman.
WHere was his unlimited strength and healing and stuff then?
Superman flicks him with a finger and he falls unconcious.

Originally posted by Juntai
Captain America KOed Hulk in 3 shots in Fallen Son: Spiderman.
WHere was his unlimited strength and healing and stuff then?
Superman flicks him with a finger and he falls unconcious. Superman has been thrown by Batman where was his strength and speed there

durflowers

Originally posted by Newjak
Superman has been thrown by Batman where was his strength and speed there

durflowers He wasn't KOed however. Which is what it takes to win this fight.

Originally posted by Juntai
Supes wins.

Originally posted by UniOmni
I love how we take the character traits out of the fighters, and basically turn them into powersets.


Lol
Did you get off at the wrong exit and end up here instead of HeroChat again?

They all loose...

Originally posted by quanchi112
soon as he took out thor reast of avengers seuixed on him and crushed him... he was zapped oput instantly, where was his speed them. quit acting like seups can crush everyone. hulk pissed off would be more than a macth for supes and supes would have to exert himself. with help supes gets zapped again.

I was referring to how he could lose in this thread. Forget about thor and the avengers for one second, and think how he could be touched if he were aflight?

Originally posted by BobbyD
I was referring to how he could lose in this thread. Forget about thor and the avengers for one second, and think how he could be touched if he were aflight? that doesnt happen. supes loses here. bottom line i showed u a canoned defeat where he coulda done that shoulda but that isnt how it boils down to. supes loses badly, im afraid.

We shall have to agree to disagree then.

Lets for a moment consider JLA/Avengers even though it is not canon to either company. They dog piled Superman, he stood there and did nothing. Now we like to see characters fighting to the best of their abilities here. With Superman's reaction speed and movement speed he should have easily taken out everyone of the Avengers but here is the kicker quanchi, it happened in a comic. Marvel would not let Superman rip through an entire Avengers team, he had to be taken down for the cause of the plot, its that simple. This is a vs thread not a comic book, try and understand the difference quanchi.

Originally posted by quanchi112
hulk pissed off would be more than a macth for supes and supes would have to exert himself.

Yes, maby in pure strength, but Superman is more than just pure physical strength.

Originally posted by Juntai
Superman flicks him with a finger and he falls unconcious.

Would never happen. Such writing as CA KO-ing Hulk is just sad.

I could chose Superman to win this fight based on his speed.
Anyway, he isn't KO-ing Juggernaut.
If he somehow gets caught, than Superman goes down.

Otherwise Superman can win this, mostly based on his speed.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Yes, maby in pure strength, but Superman is more than just pure physical strength.



Would never happen. Such writing as CA KO-ing Hulk is just sad.

I could chose Superman to win this fight based on his speed.
Anyway, he isn't KO-ing Juggernaut.
If he somehow gets caught, than Superman goes down.

Otherwise Superman can win this, mostly based on his speed. I hope you realise what I was doing there.

Originally posted by Juntai
I hope you realise what I was doing there.

I know what were you trying to say.

Anyway, in vs. thread, where we use all abilities, Superman could win this.

But still, he ain't KO-ing Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Xplosive
I know what were you trying to say.

Anyway, in vs. thread, where we use all abilities, Superman could win this.

But still, he ain't KO-ing Juggernaut. I was just using someone elses bs arguement style.

With Supes going all out...Namor gets one-shotted early. Superman is more than capable of tossing Hulk and Juggs into the sun at the same time....and neither can teleport back. The rest of the team goes down quickly.

Superman is so far above the others in strength and speed that it is scary. In KMC, every character fights to his/her full potential unless specified otherwise. That being said, Supes could defeat this team rather easily. No member on that team is in his league.

Most of those characters either need to breathe or are susceptable to Heat vision. Superman can easily create a powerful vortex that sucks out the air from an area while picking off characters with HV.

The only exception would be juggs (if in classic version)...but that's an easy BFR.

It is concievable that he could win... but he wont

Originally posted by quanchi112
that doesnt happen. supes loses here. bottom line i showed u a canoned defeat where he coulda done that shoulda but that isnt how it boils down to. supes loses badly, im afraid.

Ok jackass. So you think he can take Darkseid but not Hulk?

You refuse to acknowledge PIS for DC characters and yet you call it everytime we point out when Thanos or a marvel character loses.

Screw you Quanchi, your BS is not only catching up with you, but the smell is exposing you for what you are.


A hypocritical piece of shit excuse for a debator.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Most of those characters either need to breathe or are susceptable to Heat vision. Superman can easily create a powerful vortex that sucks out the air from an area while picking off characters with HV.

The only exception would be juggs (if in classic version)...but that's an easy BFR. hulk really doesnt need to breathe,due to his upgrade juggs and hulk r both stronger,hulk can also create beyond hurricane force winds by blowing air,can thunder clap to.......supes still wins due to forum rules though

Originally posted by quanchi112
soon as he took out thor reast of avengers seuixed on him and crushed him... he was zapped oput instantly, where was his speed them. quit acting like seups can crush everyone. hulk pissed off would be more than a macth for supes and supes would have to exert himself. with help supes gets zapped again. Well, it's a good thing nobody is as powerful as Thor here, isn't it?

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Well, it's a good thing nobody is as powerful as Thor here, isn't it? hulk and juggs are

Originally posted by strengthkills
hulk and juggs are thors magic is what sets him apart

Originally posted by strengthkills
hulk and juggs are

dur

Don't ever change.

Originally posted by strengthkills
hulk and juggs are You mean, they can fly, and have a GL-ish hammer, that also contains Superman's weakness?

Go figure.

of course supes can win. the hell is this a debate for? anyone who actually knows anything about comics knows how this would end.

saying what would happen in a comic and what would happen in the kmc are 2 dramatically different things. what would happen in a comic is utterly meaningless to these debates.

Originally posted by strengthkills
hulk really doesnt need to breathe,due to his upgrade juggs and hulk r both stronger,hulk can also create beyond hurricane force winds by blowing air,can thunder clap to.......supes still wins due to forum rules though

Really...they aren't...but they are damn strong anyway.

Superman

No one here has any reactions, speed, or versatility in the realm of comparable to Superman's. He could fly through half the team and throw the other half into space before they knew what happened.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ok jackass. So you think he can take Darkseid but not Hulk?

You refuse to acknowledge PIS for DC characters and yet you call it everytime we point out when Thanos or a marvel character loses.

Screw you Quanchi, your BS is not only catching up with you, but the smell is exposing you for what you are.


A hypocritical piece of shit excuse for a debator. no , do u pay attention to what i say. when did i say hulk could take superman. superman does have to put up a fight and cant steamroll him at all. the rest come in an grab him and smash him. u people always assume things.

Originally posted by quanchi112
no , do u pay attention to what i say. when did i say hulk could take superman. superman does have to put up a fight and cant steamroll him at all. the rest come in an grab him and smash him. u people always assume things.

YOU FAIL. Shut the **** up. What you say is BS and based on a total disrespect and ignorance of Superman and DC.

Supes would have to pull a Thor *charge in blindly, forgetting almost all his powers and just stand toe to toe slugging it out, like Thor has done 3 times to Hulk* to have any major risk of losing this. And even fighting that way, his speed is so much higher he would beat most of these guys.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
YOU FAIL. Shut the **** up. What you say is BS and based on a total disrespect and ignorance of Superman and DC.

Supes would have to pull a Thor *charge in blindly, forgetting almost all his powers and just stand toe to toe slugging it out, like Thor has done 3 times to Hulk* to have any major risk of losing this. And even fighting that way, his speed is so much higher he would beat most of these guys. dont u ever tell me to shut the ---- up. read avengers jla crossover if u ant to see how supes handled avnegrs crushing his ass after he knocked thor out. face it hulk grabs him in the fight and gets pissy and it ends there herc and crew stomp him into oblivion.

Originally posted by quanchi112
dont u ever tell me to shut the ---- up. read avengers jla crossover if u ant to see how supes handled avnegrs crushing his ass after he knocked thor out. face it hulk grabs him in the fight and gets pissy and it ends there herc and crew stomp him into oblivion.

I AM telling you to shut the **** up. Because, you are an ignorant marvel-wanking dumbshit.

You actually think this team can take Superman? How can Hulk grab someone who fights at lightspeed? And is far stronger than him? and let's not forget his other powers: HV, arctic breath, sonic voice, T-vo, etc.

Supes is just that damn good.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Because, you are an ignorant marvel-wanking dumbshit.
I'm not going to say it...ermm

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I AM telling you to shut the **** up. Because, you are an ignorant marvel-wanking dumbshit.

You actually think this team can take Superman? How can Hulk grab someone who fights at lightspeed? And is far stronger than him? and let's not forget his other powers: HV, arctic breath, sonic voice, T-vo, etc.

Supes is just that damn good. well supes is good enough to beat darkseid down hand to hand. ill give u that. hey those marvel guys swarmed him and beat him down. just like they would here. a canoned source backs up what i say. u just have supes kicking darkseids ass in urs.

Originally posted by quanchi112
well supes is good enough to beat darkseid down hand to hand. ill give u that. hey those marvel guys swarmed him and beat him down. just like they would here. a canoned source backs up what i say. u just have supes kicking darkseids ass in urs. your canon source is loaded with PIS and bad writing. Darkseid rapes Supes and this entire team.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
your canon source is loaded with PIS and bad writing. Darkseid rapes Supes and this entire team. Yeah I mean Superman KOing Thor for one eyes

Originally posted by Newjak
Yeah I mean Superman KOing Thor for one eyes

Oh I agree. It would take him far more than one punch to take Thor down. He could probably win by higher combat speed, but Thor is around the same strength level.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Oh I agree. It would take him far more than one punch to take Thor down. He could probably win by higher combat speed, but Thor is around the same strength level. But Apocalypse can take down Thor...

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
But Apocalypse can take down Thor...

1. Apocalypse > Galactus.
2. Crossover wasn't canon, go ask Digi.
3. TP loves his Marvel.
4. Superman wins.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Superman is so far above the others in strength and speed that it is scary.

No, not true, he is far from level that woudl amke Hulk a joke in pure strenght.

But Superman would crush him, but now in brawl.

Originally posted by Newjak
Superman has been thrown by Batman where was his strength and speed there

durflowers

Yea just like Black Panther armbarred SS.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ok jackass. So you think he can take Darkseid but not Hulk?

You refuse to acknowledge PIS for DC characters and yet you call it everytime we point out when Thanos or a marvel character loses.

Screw you Quanchi, your BS is not only catching up with you, but the smell is exposing you for what you are.


A hypocritical piece of shit excuse for a debator.

Watch the insulting and harassment. You can't make your point without bashing.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Watch the insulting and harassment. You can't make your point without bashing.


thats really.....contradictory

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Watch the insulting and harassment. You can't make your point without bashing.



Don't you mean can?

Originally posted by Blair Wind
thats really.....contradictory Maybe he's just talking about how Trickster debates.

Meaning, he can't make his point without bashing.

am I the only one here who remembers superman can FLY? who of those guys can fly? Namor? ok so he rapes him first, other than that whats stoping supes from staying high avoiding any attack from the ground and using heat vision on everyone untill they melt... the only one who'd be able to whitstand this would be the hulk so after the thing and the others are dead, superman goes back to the ground, grabs hulk and toses him intot he sun. end of fight. superman has more powers than all of those guys combined, give me a break

Originally posted by Xplosive
No, not true, he is far from level that woudl amke Hulk a joke in pure strenght.

But Superman would crush him, but now in brawl.

Clark would still pummel Hulk in a brawl.

...too much speed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
no supes falls hard. hulk alone could macth up well with supes. let alone give him lots of help ajnd supes gets hammered.

You must be very young or older and not that smart.
It was stated that Superman can throw Hulk in space at superspeed.
And BFR is a win according to the rules of this forum.
Hulk can't fly. Thus Hulk loses in seconds.

Supes runs the gauntlet. Here's why: Not only is he considerably stronger than anyone in this group (except possibly the Hulk). He has superspeed! Emits heat vision! And flies!!! Given this power set, it seems very unlikely that the Marvel characters would be able to mount any kind of combined effort against him. He could essentially take one of his opponents out one at a time and kill the last straggler or two at leisure.

As the only flying opponent, Namor earns the privilege of getting bludgeoned to death first in a suicidal first strike attempt.

Originally posted by quanchi112
no he doesnt. look at jla avenegers and see what happens to supes after he knocks out thor. see how long he lasts there.

Except you know...none of these guys has the same power output as Thor. Nor do they have the same skills and reaction times. Thor is a powerhouse. If Supes was to shrug off their gang attack after a ferocious battle with Thor I would be the first to jump off and write it off as PIS.

Hey Quanchi, could Sentry beat this team? I'm actually curious to see what your answer is. And who you do think is capable of beating this team.

Originally posted by Hitman911
Yea just like Black Panther armbarred SS. crylaugh Pleaseee no more no more