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When I first read the book back when it was released, I can remember thinking it was decent, if a little bogged down by excess filler material. The way was paved for a potentially excellent film adaptation - skip over the filler and focus on the thrilling set pieces. With the Goblet of Fire movie proving to be a fine and faithful adaptation, I couldn't see them going far wrong with OOTP - I was much mistaken.

This is a hollow and soulless version of the fifth installment of the Potter series. The filmmakers made an such unholy mess of the books key scenes! Sirius's death and the character's reaction to it had a about as much emotion as a frozen Moscow lake. The exchanges between Harry and Dumbledore were tepid compared to those in the novel, and the significance of the prophesy was almost downplayed.

There were some positives - the quality of the kid's acting is on the up; but surely that much is expected given the amount of acting classes they are forced to attend on a daily basis. All the usual suspects do a job in their roles once again, but the likes of Alan Rickman et al have precious little screen time this time round.

All in all, i'd say this is the most disappointing installment so far. I wasn't expecting much from the first two, but three and four set high standards. This latest installment falls well short of them.

i agree one hundred percent with you...HUGE MISTAKE. i hated the movie myself. Umbridge seemed as though she was queen of hogwarts. big let down in my opinion. Also it was so rushed, i know it was a long book but no quidditch. KMON!

I thought she banned quidditch in the book or some shit like that.

no Fred george get a ban for beating on malfoy. Bu t they still win the cup and i wanted to see malfoy get beaten up.

they just didn't see quidditch as a big thing. Can't put everything in 2 hrs and had to cut alot.

still i don't like malfoy. Atleast, show the first match beacause harry didn't see the last or i think the 2nd one.

In my opinion, it was the best movie of the 5. At the same time however, it was probably the worst adaption of all of them. Sure, I missed Quidditch, St. Mungo's most of the Ministry, etc, but most of the rest of the movie kept me in awe.

I agree. The Movie wasent that good. I loved Kreacher though.

I agree with Barker - it topped PoA for me, which is an extremely hard thing to do.

OotP did what adaptations had to do - it took the IMPORTANT parts of the book, the things that were HARRY-CENTRIC, and made them into film-form. Even more importantly, OotP caught the spirit of the book, which PoA did, but in a much more artsy way that failed to appeal to the less sophisticated audience.

OotP managed to be both intelligent and entertaining - a rare feat in the world of movies today.

Acting: 6/10

The acting wasn't horendous in this one, but was not good at all. Umbridge, Luna and Bellatrix each award this movie 2 points for thier amazing acting talent. All three acted exactly as I thought they should. Luna was very dreamy, Bellatrix was psychotic and Umbridge was a complete ****. Perfect. However, it seems that some of the main characters cannot seem to grasp the concept that emotion needs to be conveyed to the audience. In scenes where they are supposed to be in a heated argument or angry about something, they speak the lines as though bored. This includes Harry and Hermione (which I'm surprised because she always delivers). Ron didn't have many lines though, which was also a surprise.

Directing: 3/10

I am clinging to the hope that the director had been drugged and the movie was sabotaged, however that is unlikely. Yates should have not dropped so many key plot details just so that he could drag on scenes that were boring as hell. He got 3 points because he could at least get the story off the ground (kinda like a train). Even though he didn't realize the tracks were broken and the train careened into a valley, he tried to save it. Grimmauld place didn't look like a mansion, looked kinda like shit. There are just so many problems with the directing. As a director, Yates's job is to oversee every aspect of the film, which he obviously can't handle.

Casting: 5/5

One thing I liked was the casting. This was brilliant. All the actors fit their role perfectally. Some of the old actors may not have improved, but they all looked the part and many acted it well. Like I said earlier, the newer charaters were expertly chosen and in my opinion, there was noone better for those roles.

Effects: 4/5

The effects were very cool. The only bummer is that I expected much more new stuff, whereas I ended up seeing the same shit. The one point loss is for this reason stated and that the veil was done wrong. This isn't stargate bitchez. The scenes in the Hall of Prophecies (however brief they were) and the Dumbledore/Voldemort fight scenes had great effects. (not to say that that made the scene itself good). I'd also like to add that scenes jumped from one to the other. It was very amateur-like. One second they would be talking about something, and inexplicably everyone involved knew about it and have some sort of plan. One second they were on thestrals, and the next they were in the ministry, just like that. No explanation for the alck of security, nothing.

Plot Conveyed: 5/10

The main plot was conveyed: Harry has weird dreams, gets the prophecy, done. The deeper plot however, was completely forgotten. Most of the action in Grimmauld place was completely left out and the interesting scenes were unbelievably brief. The fight scenes were altogether udner ten minutes, and the kids only ran away and really didn't do any fighting. Nobody but Sirius got hurt, which wasn't at all depressing. He didn't even fall backwards into the veil like he was supposed to, he was kinda sucked into it by the playdoh-jelly like substance. There were also many plot holes. For example: Why couldn't anyone but Hary touch the prophecy? Hoe exactly did Bellatrix escape?Why did Dumbledore's wand connect with Voldemorts? That only happens with Voldemaort and Harry's wand. What happened with Snape and James? Also, things that didn't need to be changed from the book were (not to mention forgotten facts). Why would they make Cho the traitor? Didn't Snape give Umbridge fake veritaserum? What about Rita Skeeter? Firenze?

Total: 57/100

Overall I didn't like this movie. I'll buy the DVD, but just for the sake of having all 5. I can't recommend you don't see it, but just don't go in with high expectations. If you haven't read the book, plan to be lost on certain things that aren't explained. If you have read the book, you will leave PISSED. Also, don't expect huge fight scenes like the said. We only see one death eater go down, and one good guy go down, in a total of about 7 minutes of fighting.

I don't know about you guys. But I liked it. Sure it had flaws and I prefer the fourth. but what the hell. I can't see it really any more different

now if you want to talk about summer let downs. Lets talk Spider-Man 3..ouch

LUNA WAS AMUSING! And Umbridge was just as creepy as I thought she'd be! I was VERY upset at how Ginny only had that one line of Reducto

i did like luna's acting and will be looking forward to seeing her in the 6 and seventh films. ginny i think will also be a good actress even though they haven't been giving her good lines or parts. i also like ron's acting because well i think hes always been the better actor.

But Dan, no he cannot act. Friggen smiling while he was crying (Talking about GOF)

so did Harry do an Anniken? figgin hell the author has taken bits out of almost every previous fantasy epic and mixed it into HP:

Am I the only one who would give this film 9/10 (it would have been 10 if more of the book was added)?
I thought the film would be quite bad as not a lot of action (compared to the other books) happens in the book, but watching that film has been the highlight of July for me. While watching the opening 20 minutets, I had the feeling I was possibily watching the best film of the year (no joking). If nothing else, it was better than the Prisoner Of Azkaban.
The casting and actors again were outstand, with Black's role being the hightlight of the film opposite Luna.
Overall, I love this film and it now becomes #2 on my top #10 list of films ever.

The film was very well done. I'm not saying it was the best, but it was put well. Though I felt things were rushing a lot in the beginning, things smoothed out towards the middle and the end. They kept what was important and threw away anything not needed really. I say a 7.

PPL , I usually don't do this, but some of this information, please try to cover them, its spoilers. There are ppl around, me for example that has not seen the movie.
Thanks

I'm going to see it tomorrow. I'm sure it will be good! All of the movies are. So I'm not worried.

While I agree with points on some of these opinions I disagree on others...The Directing wasn't the most brilliant thing I have seen to be honest. I felt many of the things were portrayed in the best way the movie could bring them out. Much of the 5th book is what harry was going through emotionally and feeling, and they couldn't exactly add a voiceover every second so you could tell what he was thinking, nobody would be in the theater by the end if they did that cause it would kinda get annoying. However there were many of things they could have done, for instance, Fred and George leave hogwarts (to start a joke shop ^^) but I dont recall them speaking about a joke shop at all (correct me if im wrong tho). Compared to the PoA movie I think what this DID include was an ok, if not good, adaptation. All book movies are going to have flaws such as this one, the bigger the book, the more flaws usually. Lets just be thankful this didn't go "Eragon" on us...omg...
P.S. Where was Lupin in Ootp?! and since when has he a mustache!?

Originally posted by Korosan
P.S. Where was Lupin in Ootp?! and since when has he a mustache!?

He was there, don't worry. And he had the mustache in PoA.

I would have liked a lot more action and a little less of the emotional scenes.

I also would have liked more of the detaild events in the book to have been included into the movie.

Such as Firenze and his Forest-Like Classroom. I thought we were definitely going to see that once Prof. Trelawney was fired.

I did however like the scenes with Prof. Umbridge in them. Especially the ones opposing Prof. Dumbledore, McGonagall, and the other teachers at the school.

I would have definitely loved for Dumbledore's and Voldemort's battle at the end to have been much longer.

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Originally posted by siriuswriter
I agree with Barker - it topped PoA for me, which is an extremely hard thing to do.

OotP did what adaptations had to do - it took the IMPORTANT parts of the book, the things that were HARRY-CENTRIC, and made them into film-form. Even more importantly, OotP caught the spirit of the book, which PoA did, but in a much more artsy way that failed to appeal to the less sophisticated audience.

OotP managed to be both intelligent and entertaining - a rare feat in the world of movies today.

Very well said.

I disagree - I think Order of the Pheonix took the important parts of the book and completely messed them up. The Sirius death scene and Harry's heated and emotive exchanges with Dumbledore, were all emotionally flat. Not to mention the fact they failed to even mention what the Order of the Pheonix was and why it was important! It was a good job I had read the book.

On a completely different note, maybe I was just blind back when I read the book, but I only noticed the BLATANT hint that Sirius will return in the next book when I watched the film. When Luna tells Harry that the things she loses have a way of coming back to her when she least expects it; this was a clear indication that Sirius will return to Harry when he least expects it.

Originally posted by zombieman
I disagree - I think Order of the Pheonix took the important parts of the book and completely messed them up. The Sirius death scene and Harry's heated and emotive exchanges with Dumbledore, were all emotionally flat. Not to mention the fact they failed to even mention what the Order of the Pheonix was and why it was important! It was a good job I had read the book.

On a completely different note, maybe I was just blind back when I read the book, but I only noticed the BLATANT hint that Sirius will return in the next book when I watched the film. When Luna tells Harry that the things she loses have a way of coming back to her when she least expects it; this was a clear indication that Sirius will return to Harry when he least expects it. Not alive though. I think JKR, through the movie, has disproved Sirius coming back to him alive. Dead is a different story.

I think it was simply HORIRID

I'm sure we'll respond to that once we figure out what HORIRID means.

I just saw the movie today. I'd give it a 7.5 / 10 but the movie definately left a LOT out that the book had which frustrated me. Loved Cho and Harry's kiss though!

Really, I can sort of agree with complaining on stuff being left out. The movie was about 2 hours and 18 minutes I believe. Once more we could have had a longer movie. Then at least it wouldn't have seemed so rushed at certain parts.

Originally posted by The Phantom
Really, I can sort of agree with complaining on stuff being left out. The movie was about 2 hours and 18 minutes I believe. Once more we could have had a longer movie. Then at least it wouldn't have seemed so rushed at certain parts.

But if you added more scenes and filler from the book, you'd be left with a choppier movie than what you started out with.

Originally posted by H. S. 6
But if you added more scenes and filler from the book, you'd be left with a choppier movie than what you started out with. I don't think you understood the last part I said. I retract what I said about stuff being left out because I thought it was good for what they had, just choppy. Just extend the time so they could fix it all up and make it smoother.

Best movie of the series.

Right about now, I should include "by a long way" to convey the slightly smug look on my face when I watched it. Harry Potter has come along way.

While I find it hard to be so simplistic as to use a 1 to 10 scale for it's achievments, I don't see any other way.

The cinematography had a flair almost unprecendented in a a mainstream adaptation. 10 out of 10. While I knew Yates could handle material and get the best out of his actors, I wasn't sure David Yates could achieve the level of even Mike Newell, let alone the magnificent and often unsung Alfonso Cuaron. Those shots of the Thames, they left me exhilirated. I would argue that visually this effort was more intriguing than Cuaron's Prisoner of Azakaban. Credit to the director of photography.

The acting, while a cringeworthy deterrent in previous efforts was certainly only a few notches from the fabled "top notch". Yes, it can be expected that these young thesps would do well considering constant pressure and training, but really, I was suprised how well Daniel Radcliffe held the story in check. The other two, while Ron seemed to take the backseat, succeeded too. Credit to Imelda Staunton for such a great performance, and as usual to a great British ensemble cast. 8 out of 10.

Direction. David Yates kept me transfixed on the story. Unlike Chris Columbus, I wasn't thinking "Hey, did that 'appen in the book?", but instead "I liked the way they adapated that". Really, I felt Snape's Occlumency lessons began in a natural way. They felt, tense, urgent even, and dare I say it got me thinking a little about Snape's alliegence, with a particular emphasis on words by Rickman. While I was kept intrigued visually, I was also hooked into the narrative.

I would give it 7 out of 10, albeit an understandable 7 out of 10. Plot points were shifted, things I would liked to have experienced (St.Mungo's, Sirius' hymes, Buckbeak) were left out, but as I cited, they were so understandably.

As for the adapation of the book, it's a two sided coin. Purist's who do not understand that literature and film are very different mediums will be disappointed, as per usual, that the alluring Hogwarts lifestyle is played down alot. As said by Siriuswriter, the plot echoed in the film feature the important scenes. However, being liberal with the texts has made this a better film; a less congealed and obtrusive narrative is simplified and I think those who have not have read the series will be transfixed. It could go either way. 0 out of 10, or 10 out of 10.

On the subject of Sirius' death, I find it hard to believe that people think that the "right emotion" was not obvious. In fact, contrary to pursists, the film leaves a much more definite emotion than the book. In the book we are left feeling disenchanted, confused while in the film we get closure and the slight exposure of an explaination.

I think that Order of the Phoenix is the most faithful, yet the most liberal of the Harry Potters adaptations. All in all, I think Order of the Phoenix, as a film with it's own merits stands tall above it's predecessors.

Do you mind if I use that review for reference to my friends who disliked the movie for the reasons you said they would?

'Course, if you think it makes sense. Treated myself grandly to a few pints after the showing. Just to check me mind though - what did you feel, in the book, after Sirius' death?

Originally posted by exanda kane
'Course, if you think it makes sense. Treated myself grandly to a few pints after the showing. Just to check me mind though - what did you feel, in the book, after Sirius' death? All remember as soon as I read that part. Still working on the books before book 7 comes out. I need to start reading a bit faster. I'm only about 200 pages in GoF. -_- I'll tell you as soon as I get to it though.

No worries

Originally posted by exanda kane
No worries Yes worries. Barely 8 days...

Yep and end of. Will people stop talking about it? Probably not, irrespective of it's a movie forum. Hopefully all the "theories" will stop.

I agree with most of what exanda kane said especially the part about literature and film being two different mediums. Not every part will be exactly like the book but at least OotP kept to many of the key points even if it didnt show everything everyone wanted to see. What annoys me (while I haven't seen anyone here say it) is people who say "OMG That isn't what the character looks like AT ALL! OMG" Like if they pictured snape with much much shorter hair...even tho I don't think Lupin was supposed to have a mustache lol at least from what I recall from descriptions but i could be wrong lol

If the movie wasn't as choppy i would have enjoyed it more. while i was sitting there i felt rushed and like the movie was put on high speed. i know they can't fit all the detals rowling put in the book, but extend it to 2h and 30m or something like that to smooth it all out and leave more time at the end for the important stuff.

What important stuff?

I thought it wasn't possible for another HP movie to blew more then fourth one...

...I was wrong.

These things keep getting worse and worse. It was like Harry Potter-clip show, they just jumped from another scene to other without much connection.

Bleh. I'll stay with the books.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I thought it wasn't possible for another HP movie to blew more then fourth one...

...I was wrong.

These things keep getting worse and worse. It was like Harry Potter-clip show, they just jumped from another scene to other without much connection.

Bleh. I'll stay with the books.

I 100% percent totally Agree with you for the firt time i actually didnt really like the movie except the 2nd time i went to see it it was much better fro some reason........ but over all i think it was a stinkie one for me they better not mess up with the next one or ill be mad :X

Well I thought it was the best of the series.

Although a lot was cut I still enjoyed it as it was meant to be, an adaption. Although I would have liked to see them tieing thing together a little bit better, I still thought the movie was amazing.

I loved the last battle. I didn't want it to end. It was amazing.

What always amazes me is how they find the PERFECT cast.

Bellatrix stole the movie, she was amazing. As was Luna. They were both DEAD on. I don't think anyone could do a better job.

They are gonna mess the next one up bc a lot of stuff that connects with the HBP was left out in OOTP. Prepare yourselves for many many plot holes.

Ya it should have been three or four hours long . The books are getting bigger and alot of info is missing

Dude I thought the movie was freakin awesome!! I mean I didn't really like how it was only 2 hrs and there were a few things they needed to add in but left out but they portrayed it really well I just wish it was longer the real disappointment to me was that unbridge shouldve been a little larger and toad like but its ok I guess also they lied when they said cho told about the training in the book I believe it was spose to bve her friend Heather I think her name was and that there was a spell cast on every person in Dumbledores Army so that if one did tell they would get pimpiles on their face that spelt out a word if I'm thinking correctly but the ending was played out very well it was more than I actually expected and idk if any of u noticed but the Weasley brother that left his family alone Percy was his name the one that believed Fudge instead of his own family is back he showed up in the movie but I pretty much loved it all but they couldve shown more of Mrs. Figg and the whole Order

I just saw the movie and I didn't think it was that bad. OK, a lot of stuff just wasn't there and the acting could/should have been better, but the action and SE were great and the movie got the main part of the book and that's what the movie is all about.

For me it was the best HP movie so far.

Originally posted by stuwienl
I just saw the movie and I didn't think it was that bad. OK, a lot of stuff just wasn't there and the acting could/should have been better, but the action and SE were great and the movie got the main part of the book and that's what the movie is all about.

For me it was the best HP movie so far.

iEveryone needs to except there is a large portion of the story that wont be included. It is the atmosphere and tone of the film that counts. out of all the series this had the very best acting, and unfortunately some of the most lackluster effects. did you think these effects were better than the last two?

The thing that disappointed me the most was how uneventful most of it was.

Weren't many exciting, enthralling parts. Felt like a lot of filler, although in saying that, I know they left some stuff out.

I wouldn't mind if they actually did get another director for the next movie, although this director is already signed on for the next movie unfortunately.

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

I really enjoyed it. I'm pretty critical of the movie adaptations in general and I didnt't particularly appreciate any of the others, specifically GoF (too many important details either changed completely or missed out altogether) but OotP did it for me. Whatever I've been looking for in the movies was there, it had It.

As a few people have mentioned, the 5th book was sort of long winded in the first place and I think the movie portrayed most of what mattered. I especially liked the fact that there wasn't all that much action until right towards the end because that's what happened in the book.

8/10 from me, and that's saying something

One thing I would have really loved to have seen was Firenze taking Trelawney's place as teacher of Divination. That was a brilliant part of the book, it's a shame it was cut.

Also, I just want to point out to those who say it's a good thing they read the book before seeing the movie; surely that's a given? It really bothers me when people suggest they don't need to read the books because they can just watch the movies. Big mistake in my opinion

I must also point out that I hated how little screen time many of the actors got. Especially RON.

But also Hermione, Snape, and McGonagall, but especially RON.

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Alan Rickman worked wonders for that small amount of screen time though.

Originally posted by InnerRise
I must also point out that I hated how little screen time many of the actors got. Especially RON.

But also Hermione, Snape, and McGonagall, but especially RON.

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Kind of represents Ron's feelings throughout the book though, right? Jealousy towards Harry because Harry hogs the limelight, Ron feeling as though he's being shoved to the back and so on hmm

I have two words for that movie.


















TOTAL AWESOMENESS!

why does everyone think that the GoF was the best movie i think it was the worst and the OotP was about harry finding himself and dealin with the dark lord thats why all the other stuff was left out i didnt like that it was left out like cho's friend being the one who ratted them out dont know why they couldnt have done that but by far the best movie

Originally posted by jasonowens4200
why does everyone think that the GoF was the best movie i think it was the worst and the OotP was about harry finding himself and dealin with the dark lord thats why all the other stuff was left out i didnt like that it was left out like cho's friend being the one who ratted them out dont know why they couldnt have done that but by far the best movie They couldn't do the Cho's friend thing because it wasn't really important who did it. They did that part perfectly, as I think I mentioned before. They were able to combine a way to break Harry and Cho up without having to do the entire "date" thing and have Dumbledore's Army discovered at the same time. Killing two birds with one stone.

It drives me nuts when people say "Well, a lot is gonna be left out so you can't be dissapointed"

i know a lot was gonna be left out and i had/have no problem with it. however, they introduced things without explaining them properly and left out necessary things. Also, the fight scene was waaayyy to short.

does anyone know with out me having to look it up in the fight scene when sirius and harry are fighting together he calls him james does he do that in the book

i liked it but it went too fast and too many important things were taken out

I think that they replayed the same scenes, (the ones when Snape broke into Harry's mind) at least every 10 minutes.this movie is the worst of the 5 bc-


1.THey shut out the whole beginning, and so Harry seemed disturbed

2. The fight scene was pathetic.

3.I wanted to see the chracters taken down 1 by 1 like the book.

4. Grimmould place looked like crap. It was supposed to be a mansion, and it looked like crud

5. They put in scenes that never happened

6. In the Voldy/Dumbledore fight, they cut out the statues coming to life.

I absolutely love it. jump

They really meant it when they said it was the best movie of the summer.

I went to see it for the 4th time yesterday!
My mom HATES Harry Potter, but she absolutely loved the movie. Especially the battle scene. Total Awesomeness!punk

I just adore that movie!notworthy


My mouth was literally hanging at the end of the movie!jawdrop


It was just TOTAL AWESOMENESS!

I'm watching the movie over the internet right now, I just really want to see what the Department of Mysteries is like.

Originally posted by zombieman
When I first read the book back when it was released, I can remember thinking it was decent, if a little bogged down by excess filler material. The way was paved for a potentially excellent film adaptation - skip over the filler and focus on the thrilling set pieces. With the Goblet of Fire movie proving to be a fine and faithful adaptation, I couldn't see them going far wrong with OOTP - I was much mistaken.

This is a hollow and soulless version of the fifth installment of the Potter series. The filmmakers made an such unholy mess of the books key scenes! Sirius's death and the character's reaction to it had a about as much emotion as a frozen Moscow lake. The exchanges between Harry and Dumbledore were tepid compared to those in the novel, and the significance of the prophesy was almost downplayed.

There were some positives - the quality of the kid's acting is on the up; but surely that much is expected given the amount of acting classes they are forced to attend on a daily basis. All the usual suspects do a job in their roles once again, but the likes of Alan Rickman et al have precious little screen time this time round.

All in all, i'd say this is the most disappointing installment so far. I wasn't expecting much from the first two, but three and four set high standards. This latest installment falls well short of them.

Agreed. Book 5 was probably my least favourite but I could see that being easily made into a film adaption. Especially the Dumbledore vs Voldemort scene. I thought that the movie was pretty poor.

I liked it, but I don't think it topped GOF.

I think it was better than the fourth movie. I actually think that it was the best movie out of all of them so far, even though it didn't follow the book as much as the other movies.

I liked the movie overall. There were a few scenes I thought should have been in the movie, though, that would have made it better.

The whole Percy leaving his family for the Ministry was left out, which means him coming back in movie 7 will be non-existent also.

They never showed Snape in Grimmauld Place working for the Order, so we never get that confidence in him that he's Dumbledore's man, so his "betrayal" in the next book isn't going to be as emotional.

Finally, I would have loved to seen McGonagall and Umbridge argue over Harry's future as an Auror. That would have been entertaining.

Oh, and a minor gripe about the last fight between Dumbledore and Voldemort. In the book, Dumbledore seemed more calm and in control of things. We now know why because of the last book. In the movie, he seemed very nervous about the outcome. But that's just a small complaint.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
I liked the movie overall. There were a few scenes I thought should have been in the movie, though, that would have made it better.

The whole Percy leaving his family for the Ministry was left out, which means him coming back in movie 7 will be non-existent also.

They never showed Snape in Grimmauld Place working for the Order, so we never get that confidence in him that he's Dumbledore's man, so his "betrayal" in the next book isn't going to be as emotional.

Finally, I would have loved to seen McGonagall and Umbridge argue over Harry's future as an Auror. That would have been entertaining.

Oh, and a minor gripe about the last fight between Dumbledore and Voldemort. In the book, Dumbledore seemed more calm and in control of things. We now know why because of the last book. In the movie, he seemed very nervous about the outcome. But that's just a small complaint.

Wow, you bring up some really good points! All of those things really would've been great if they were in the movie, especially the part about the McGonagall-Umbridge argument.

From the sounds of it some people are just too picky, quite frankly it was my favourite film by far and I absolutely loved it, the directing was superb and if some of you knew how hard it was to take a book like that to screen, I'm sure you wouldn't be complaining as much. I thought it was absolutely superb.

Originally posted by allofyousuckkk
Acting: 6/10

The acting wasn't horendous in this one, but was not good at all. Umbridge, Luna and Bellatrix each award this movie 2 points for thier amazing acting talent. All three acted exactly as I thought they should. Luna was very dreamy, Bellatrix was psychotic and Umbridge was a complete ****. Perfect. However, it seems that some of the main characters cannot seem to grasp the concept that emotion needs to be conveyed to the audience. In scenes where they are supposed to be in a heated argument or angry about something, they speak the lines as though bored. This includes Harry and Hermione (which I'm surprised because she always delivers). Ron didn't have many lines though, which was also a surprise.


Well, I'm not sure when anyone was supposed to have a heated argument. I felt the actors did a fine job. Daniel Radcliffe especially seems to have improved. When Sirius died my heart ached for Harry, his pain was so realistic.



Give an example, please. What key plot details? The only key plot detail that should have been in the film was the locket, and I think that is going to be taken care of in the next film.

Grimmauld place is NOT a mansion; it's not ever, to my knowledge, described as a mansion. And it's supposed to look like shit. All the surrounding houses look awful, and in the book Grimmauld place is not exactly home sweet home. It's filthy and gross and scary. It was perfect in the film.

What else did you feel was utterly wrong? Give an example of poor directing.




At last we agree.



The scenes did jump, but I don't think it was as confusing as you imply. It's not that difficult to assume certain things take place off-screen. Why would we need every single detail put into the film; you already stated that too much uninteresting stuff happened, but you want more exposition?





The deeper plot was the Ministry and its attempts to control the school and to prevent people from finding out the truth, all of which was conveyed perfectly.

As I mentioned, the only really important thing is the locket; as for the rest of Grimmauld place, I think we saw enough of it. I didn't need to see endless cleaning and have Sirius being grumpy. Those were some of the worst parts of the book, in my opinion.

The fight scene in the books was way too long. It had to be trimmed down, or else it would have been an added 30 minutesAlso, they had to convey somehow how Harry fights Voldemort. Having his friends show up and giving Harry the strength to fight him off was important.

The kids did a pretty good job of fighting. They did run, but they fought. It was more believable in the book, and I thought the fight served it's purpose, without all the kids injuring themselves.

I liked Sirius's death; it was sudden, shocking, and unsettling. Better than falling through a curtain, which is anti-climatic to me. Not that I cared much in the book; I was happy when Sirius died, he was such a prat.

Plot holes: Harry can touch the prophecy because it's about him. I'm pretty sure it's mentioned in the film. Bellatrix escapes by floo network. Dumbledore's spell and Voldemort's spell connected briefly, but it's not the same was when twin wands connect. We saw what happened with Snape and James.

What do you mean, Snape gave Umbridge fake Veritaserum? He did not give her any because she had used up the entire bottle when she tried to use it on Harry before. Using Cho as the scapegoat has been explained very well. Rita and Firenze were fun elements to OotP but totally unnecessary to the story.

Do you have any complaints that actually support your opinion on why the film sucks, or are you just hating the film because it's not in exact detail exactly like the book?




My best friend has never cracked open a Harry Potter book, and she's had no problems following the films. Any of them. She especially enjoyed OotP, had no trouble with the plot, and of the things I've told her about, she only wishes we could have seen the locket. So the idea that you must read the books to get the film is not true at all.

I don't think you need to read the books to be able to follow the films, but you most definitely lose out on a lot if you don't

I disagree, I actually rather liked the movie. As an adaptation of the book, it wasn't great, but as a movie, I thought it was pretty good. The acting was okay, Evana Lynch played brilliantly as Luna, she had the spaced out light voice, and pulled it off perfectly. Whoever played Umbridge was also pretty good. I laughed alot in the movie, which was surprising, and the main story was all there. Sure, I was dissapointed not to see quidditch (sp?) or Ron and Hermione being the head boy and girl, and I'd have liked to see more of Luna's conspiracy theories.

Overall, I liked this movie, and I watched it twice. So yes, it was a less than average adaptation, but a good movie.

Originally posted by Surio
I disagree, I actually rather liked the movie. As an adaptation of the book, it wasn't great, but as a movie, I thought it was pretty good. The acting was okay, Evana Lynch played brilliantly as Luna, she had the spaced out light voice, and pulled it off perfectly. Whoever played Umbridge was also pretty good. I laughed alot in the movie, which was surprising, and the main story was all there. Sure, I was dissapointed not to see quidditch (sp?) or Ron and Hermione being the head boy and girl, and I'd have liked to see more of Luna's conspiracy theories.

Overall, I liked this movie, and I watched it twice. So yes, it was a less than average adaptation, but a good movie.

NOOB I'm going to stalk u ..

anyways the movie was sh*t.

it didn't show harry's fit after siris(rip) died.

it didnt have much of the things in the book

nothing on the pensieve and tonks' role was so small that i barfed a bit in my mouth.

acting was ok. Death eaters looked like a bunch of members of the KKK but with black hats instead of white.

terrible adaptation of the book

new director ----- > go die

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btw was jkr even involved in the movie? was she overseeing it, coz it seems to me that she giving the rights to a bunch of dckheads to make the movie and they keep on fking it up

:: just my 2 cents

Originally posted by Infinity
NOOB I'm going to stalk u ..

anyways the movie was sh*t.

it didn't show harry's fit after siris(rip) died.

it didnt have much of the things in the book

nothing on the pensieve and tonks' role was so small that i barfed a bit in my mouth.

acting was ok. Death eaters looked like a bunch of members of the KKK but with black hats instead of white.

terrible adaptation of the book

new director ----- > go die

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btw was jkr even involved in the movie? was she overseeing it, coz it seems to me that she giving the rights to a bunch of dckheads to make the movie and they keep on fking it up

:: just my 2 cents
I can see why you didn't like it, but like I said, it was a poor adaptation, but I thought it was a good movie.

And yes, I think she was involved.

Originally posted by Infinity
anyways the movie was sh*t.

No.



Why does it need to? II is pretty self explanatory.



Congratulations. You have unintentionally made the distinction between a novel and a film.



I'd argue that the pensieve wasn't needed and Tonks only has a small role.



And why shouldn't they be? The parallels between Death Eater's and the KKK are not simply accidental.



Which makes it the best film. It is no longer a low rate, two-bit adapation of the book. It is a film in it's own right.



At least it's not that idiot Chris Columbus. David Yates, in my opinion, is second only to Alfonso Cauron. So you may wish him to die, but he has directed the best Harry Potter movie yet. Well done to him.

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btw was jkr even involved in the movie? was she overseeing it, coz it seems to me that she giving the rights to a bunch of dckheads to make the movie and they keep on fking it up



Your 2 cents they may be, but I think I'll just come and take away your lunch money every day from now on.

.. did u read the book?

I've been to see the film twice now, and I have to say that I really enjoyed it both times, it's not completely true to the book but that really doesn't matter to me, it's a wonderfully entertaining film, with much improved acting across the board.

Best film on the series by far and made from a book that I didn't enjoy greatly in comparison to others in the series.

Originally posted by Infinity
.. did u read the book?

Did you read the responses to your comments??

sry u hurt my feelings. not. the movie was so off comparedto the book. thats all that matters.

Yes, in comparison. But as a movie in its own right it was pretty damn good. That's the point people are trying to make, not one person has claimed that they think the film is better than the book, or perfectly adapted.

I loved the movie but by god there is something about the director that I hate. he took out important parts. It felt a little weird when he talked about the movie. it made me angry for some odd reason

The first two movies were the best, everything after that was either mediocre or blew chunks.

Prisoner of Azkaban blew chunks, Goblet of Fire was mediocre, Order of the Phoenix was mediocre.

A load of nonsense.

The whole point of a movie based on a book is to bring the book to life, not to make many alterations so long as you stick to the overall plot. The first two movies did that precisely, they were the best ones in my opinion and I see you hating on the director that made them.

1-2 were good except that petunia supposed to be blonde lawl

3 was ok

4 was ok (was this the one with hermione's protest of the house elves?)

5 was terrible

Originally posted by DarkC
A load of nonsense.

The whole point of a movie based on a book is to bring the book to life, not to make many alterations so long as you stick to the overall plot. The first two movies did that precisely, they were the best ones in my opinion and I see you hating on the director that made them.

No...the point of a movie based on a book is to make lots of cash. Every Harry Potter film has done that very succesfully. However, there are freedoms in film that are not available on the page and vice versa. How many times do I have to point out to simpletons that cinema and literature are both too very different things?

Chris Columbus simply didn't make use of his medium. He played it safe, which, don't get me wrong, is all well and good if you want to make a simple kids movie. But then again, Harry Potter isn't a "simple" kids series. People like Cuaron, David Yates and to a lesser extent, Mike Newell, have turned Harry Potter from an adaptation to a fully fledged cinematic omnibus.

i just reread ootp and goddamnit the movie is crap

Originally posted by Infinity
i just reread ootp and goddamnit the movie is crap

I just read it. And the movie was still AWESOME.

Originally posted by Infinity
1-2 were good except that petunia supposed to be blonde lawl

3 was ok

4 was ok (was this the one with hermione's protest of the house elves?)

5 was terrible

What did you have against the 5th movie? I thought it was the best out of all the movies made so far.

Originally posted by Surio
I just read it. And the movie was still AWESOME.

.. /wrist

Originally posted by Infinity
.. /wrist

Did you have any problems with any part of the movie in particular?

all of it . It was different then the book.

I HATE the 4th movie, worst of the 5 for sure IMO

5th one was SLIGHTLY better than 4

but not much

3 was the best out of the 5, but still not a great adaptation

1&2 were okay

5 was my favorite book and they completely ****ed it up, and i know they have to cut material, but they CHANGED material. which sucks.

Originally posted by pinkfloydkor


5 was my favorite book and they completely ****ed it up, and i know they have to cut material, but they CHANGED material. which sucks.

Originally posted by Infinity
all of it . It was different then the book.

Well, you're entitled to your opinion, but just because a movie doesn't follow the book it was based on word for word doesn't mean that it's a bad movie.