Mister Mxyzptlk vs Mad Jim Jaspers

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tooa/presence
and the winner is?

Mordum
Mr. M.

Mr Master
If I had to choose,

I'd say Stalemate.

They can't hurt each other and thus would probably end up canceling each other out.

TricksterPriest
Nope. It's obvious that Mxy wins. wink It's just MJJ's bad luck that he's fighting one of the few people in comics who he CAN'T warp.

Mr Master
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Nope. It's obvious that Mxy wins.

Mxy hasn't done anything more impressing than Merlyn,

Merlyn fused the Life-Force of the entire Omniverse into tiny Crystals to do with as he wished,

and Jaspers>>>Merlyn.


The only being who was able to defeat Jaspers was his Plot Device (the Fury)


Like I said,

they probably can't hurt each other ... stalemate. smile

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
It's just MJJ's bad luck that he's fighting one of the few people in comics who he CAN'T warp.

Seriously, how can this ever be proven?

It can't, so it's just an opinion good friend.

guy222
Originally posted by tooa/presence
and the winner is?

Prolly a tie

Astner
Well, since Jaspers surpassed Merlyn who had what was stated to be complete omniversal control.

Besides Cap. Brittain stated that if he were not stoped the entire omniverse would fall into chaos.

Mxyzptlk, has only destroyed one or possible two multiverses from what seen--that does not compete.

llagrok
Originally posted by Mr Master
Mxy hasn't done anything more impressing than Merlyn,

Merlyn fused the Life-Force of the entire Omniverse into tiny Crystals to do with as he wished,

and Jaspers>>>Merlyn.


The only being who was able to defeat Jaspers was his Plot Device (the Fury)


Like I said,

they probably can't hurt each other ... stalemate. smile

Seriously, how can this ever be proven?

It can't, so it's just an opinion good friend.

Someone go to the market and pick up a twelve pack of humor for Mr.M smile

Xplosive
Originally posted by Astner
Besides Cap. Brittain stated that if he were not stoped the entire omniverse would fall into chaos.

It would't, because then the LT himself would come and stop MJJ easily.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Mr. Mxy turns MJJ into a pickle

Astner
Originally posted by Xplosive
It would't, because then the LT himself would come and stop MJJ easily.
He saw the future you can't argue about that.

Mr Master
Originally posted by Astner
Well, since Jaspers surpassed Merlyn who had what was stated to be complete omniversal control.

Besides Cap. Brittain stated that if he were not stoped the entire omniverse would fall into chaos.

Mxyzptlk, has only destroyed one or possible two multiverses from what seen--that does not compete.

Actually Mxy destroyed all of DC,

but in World's Funnest the DC Reality was interpreted as a single Multiverse.

An Infinite Multiverse I'm sure though.

Originally posted by llagrok
Someone go to the market and pick up a twelve pack of humor for Mr.M

We might aswell share it.

cheers

Originally posted by Xplosive
It would't, because then the LT himself would come and stop MJJ easily.

I don't think the LT could interfere according to Marvel Cosmic laws.

You see Jaspers was not going to unbalance Reality, (this is when LT appears)

instead Jaspers was going to turn Reality into his image.

This is why the Guardians of the Omniverse came after Jaspers:
..............................................................................

Merlin says,

"You cannot fail, this version of Japers is too powerful, too dangerous"

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/1219/m17iu3.th.jpg

They had to destroy the entire 238 Universe in order to kill 238 Jaspers,

but 616 Jaspers is,

"NOT so easily contained, and if he's not stopped,
the OMNI-VERSE will fall into Chaos,
and a NEW GOD shall play dice with Matter"

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Mr. Mxy turns MJJ into a pickle

Same could be said about MJJ doing it to Mxy.

Either opinion could never be proven though. smile

Originally posted by Astner
He saw the future you can't argue about that.

That's true.

Cobweb (a being that peers into "Possible Futures" that rely on divergences of the Present to exist)

SAW Jaspers Warping the entire Omniverse if the Fury hadn't stopped him:

http://img349.imageshack.us/img349/2961/m10cr3.th.jpg

"But if this Game is Lost, I see a Universe eaten alive by Chaos,

and ANOTHER Universe, and ANOTHER, like Dominos, Tumbling ...

I see the Future"


"And it is Cancelled"
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/4643/m11lz1.th.jpg

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually Mxy destroyed all of DC,

but in World's Funnest the DC Reality was interpreted as a single Multiverse.

An Infinite Multiverse I'm sure though.



We might aswell share it.

cheers



I don't think the LT could interfere according to Marvel Cosmic laws.

You see Jaspers was not going to unbalance Reality, (this is when LT appears)

instead Jaspers was going to turn Reality into his image.

This is why the Guardians of the Omniverse came after Jaspers:
..............................................................................

Merlin says,

"You cannot fail, this version of Japers is too powerful, too dangerous"

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/1219/m17iu3.th.jpg

They had to destroy the entire 238 Universe in order to kill 238 Jaspers,

but 616 Jaspers is,

"NOT so easily contained, and if he's not stopped,
the OMNI-VERSE will fall into Chaos,
and a NEW GOD shall play dice with Matter"



Same could be said about MJJ doing it to Mxy.

Either opinion could never be proven though. smile



That's true.

Cobweb (a being that peers into "Possible Futures" that rely on divergences of the Present to exist)

SAW Jaspers Warping the entire Omniverse if the Fury hadn't stopped him:

http://img349.imageshack.us/img349/2961/m10cr3.th.jpg

"But if this Game is Lost, I see a Universe eaten alive by Chaos,

and ANOTHER Universe, and ANOTHER, like Dominos, Tumbling ...

I see the Future"


"And it is Cancelled"
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/4643/m11lz1.th.jpg

Well Mxy can turn MJJ's Omniverse into a pickle. As far as we know, MJJ is only omnipotent for sure in his own universe. Likely Mxy would seal MJJ up like he did to the ultimator since MJJ is likely Unkillable. Tho I think A time warp and erasing of the family gene pool would work. Unless Someone shows me MJJ having Time powers.

Mr Master
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Well Mxy can turn MJJ's Omniverse into a pickle.

This is an opinion that could never be proven.

Watch:

Well MJJ can turn Mxy and DC into a pickle. smile

It's easy to type isn't it? (but inconsequential in the end)

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
As far as we know, MJJ is only omnipotent for sure in his own universe.

It's true MJJ's omnipotence is confined to his Warp.

But the Warp does not consist of one Universe,

Jaspers' Warp exponentially expands from Universe to Universe,
and there is NO force that can stop it short of the LT and perhaps the BeyonderS,

and ofcourse the plot device (Fury)

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Likely Mxy would seal MJJ up like he did to the ultimator since MJJ is likely Unkillable.

Impossible.

Merlin could NOT,

Mxy surely can NOT.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Tho I think A time warp and erasing of the family gene pool would work.

Both Merlin and Roma have absolute control of the Timestream:



Here is the FAR weaker Roma with a Cap. Brit. would be successor:

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2444/romarevive1xr7.th.jpg

Roma plucks her husband (who was Dead) from the Past,

and brings him to the present (Alive) with a gesture:

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/9536/romarevive2od8.th.jpg


Forget about attacking a master Reality Warper with some cheesy Time effect.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Unless Someone shows me MJJ having Time powers.

Uhh let's see,

Jaspers Warped and became the 616 Universe,


the 616 Universe like ALL Universes is made up of Two major components,
Time & Space.

http://img349.imageshack.us/img349/7223/m18gy5.th.jpg

"Time Powers" you ask for,

how about Warping & becoming the Concept of Time itself. cool

Astner
Yet a omniverse > multiverse.
Thus, MJJ > Mxy

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Mr Master
This is an opinion that could never be proven.

Watch:

Well MJJ can turn Mxy and DC into a pickle. smile

It's easy to type isn't it? (but inconsequential in the end)



It's true MJJ's omnipotence is confined to his Warp.

But the Warp does not consist of one Universe,

Jaspers' Warp exponentially expands from Universe to Universe,
and there is NO force that can stop it short of the LT and perhaps the BeyonderS,

and ofcourse the plot device (Fury)



Impossible.

Merlin could NOT,

Mxy surely can NOT.



Both Merlin and Roma have absolute control of the Timestream:



Here is the FAR weaker Roma with a Cap. Brit. would be successor:

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2444/romarevive1xr7.th.jpg

Roma plucks her husband (who was Dead) from the Past,

and brings him to the present (Alive) with a gesture:

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/9536/romarevive2od8.th.jpg


Forget about attacking a master Reality Warper with some cheesy Time effect.



Uhh let's see,

Jaspers Warped and became the 616 Universe,
the 616 Universe like ALL Universes is made up of Two major components,
Time & Space.


"Time Powers" you ask for,

how about Warping & becoming the Concept of Time itself. cool

How do you think Mxy can't seal MJJ up when The Ultimator Actually has much more power and is more power. He's actually everything. To say Mxy can't seal MJJ up becuz merlyn can't is rediculous Especially since merlyn uses some kind of tech magic thing to do most of his powerful stuff. one more thing, MJJ is a 3 dimensional being> no matter how powerful, all three dimensional beings are putty to Mxy. Just in case you didn't know.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Astner
Yet a omniverse > multiverse.
Thus, MJJ > Mxy

DUMB. I wish we could report stupidity.

tooa/presence
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
DUMB. I wish we could report stupidity.
laughing

xjustice69x
mxy for the win

Astner
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
DUMB. I wish we could report stupidity.
Yeah well, I can report you for flaming ... Your miss.

And I rest in Mr Master's case, you cannot prove him wrong considering how there is no evidence supporting your claim.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Astner
Yeah well, I can report you for flaming ... Your miss.

And I rest in Mr Master's case, you cannot prove him wrong considering how there is no evidence supporting your claim.

His case is his own. But he hasn't shown That MJJ is anything more than a 3 dimensional being. All of them are inferior to mxy, no matter how poweful they are.

strengthkills
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
His case is his own. But he hasn't shown That MJJ is anything more than a 3 dimensional being. All of them are inferior to mxy, no matter how poweful they are. That extends to the marvel universe too?

Astner
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
His case is his own. But he hasn't shown That MJJ is anything more than a 3 dimensional being. All of them are inferior to mxy, no matter how poweful they are.
Ah, OK, and this BS is based on what now?

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by strengthkills
That extends to the marvel universe too?

It did when they had the non cannon cross over. And in this KMC forum, Everything is neutral with all characters in thier natural state.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Astner
Ah, OK, and this BS is based on what now?

JLA Heaven's ladder explains it. Also JLA exlains it when he explains the imps. Also Mxy explains it when the joker takes over everything and Mxy says the joker has no clue and didnt' do not even close to what he could.

Astner
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It did when they had the non cannon cross over. And in this KMC forum, Everything is neutral with all characters in thier natural state.
What part of "the Omniverse will fall into chaos" do you not understand.
**** the 5th, all dimensions are but a part of the Omniverse.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Astner
What part of "the Omniverse will fall into chaos" do you not understand.
**** the 5th, all dimensions are but a part of the Omniverse.
No they aren't. Higher Dimensions in DC are not part of any omniverse. The omniverse would be all multiverses and 3 dimensional verses. And MJJ did nothign the sort on panel. he was said only to threaten. Cronus with the Godwave was said to threaten The presence himself. So does this mean he can beat The LT with the Godwave becuz of a "threaten" comment?

Astner
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No they aren't. Higher Dimensions in DC are not part of any omniverse. The omniverse would be all multiverses and 3 dimensional verses. And MJJ did nothign the sort on panel. he was said only to threaten. Cronus with the Godwave was said to threaten The presence himself. So does this mean he can beat The LT with the Godwave becuz of a "threaten" comment?
Show me where does it say that the 5th dimension is not a part of the DC Omniverse, for what I've know DC has mentioned the word omniverse once.

pr1983
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
DUMB. I wish we could report stupidity.

nvr, even if you don't agree, keep the name calling to a minimum, alright?

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Astner
Show me where does it say that the 5th dimension is not a part of the DC Omniverse, for what I've know DC has mentioned the word omniverse once.
The kingdom is said to be bigger than an omniverse. encompassing all mediums. So omniverse wouldnt' even be the biggest lvl of existance in DC now would it? The 5th dimesnion has never been a part of the omniverse any more than The 4th world or heaven has.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by pr1983
nvr, even if you don't agree, keep the name calling to a minimum, alright?
Sorry. I didn't actually call a name tho. It was a joke.

tooa/presence
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Sorry. I didn't actually call a name tho. It was a joke.

what the hell dude? because off that damn sexuality topic my thread is closed.

Astner
Originally posted by tooa/presence
what the hell dude? because off that damn sexuality topic my thread is closed.
One man alone cannot hold a conversation, unless he has schizophrenia.
If you would ignore him when he brough up the topic it would be deserted.

Mr Master
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
How do you think Mxy can't seal MJJ up when The Ultimator Actually has much more power and is more power. He's actually everything.

The Omniverse is everything.

Merlyn had absolute control over every aspect of the Omniverse (everything)

Jaspers>Merlyn


Nuff said. smile

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
To say Mxy can't seal MJJ up becuz merlyn can't is rediculous Especially since merlyn uses some kind of tech magic thing to do most of his powerful stuff.

Wrong.

Merlyn was merged with the Omniversal Energy Matrix.

Merlyn created the Celestial Nullifier (Universal erasing Tech) for the Omniversal Tribune,

this way they can erase any Universe in the Omniverse with it.


Respect Merlyn dude.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
one more thing, MJJ is a 3 dimensional being> no matter how powerful, all three dimensional beings are putty to Mxy. Just in case you didn't know.

Actually Jaspers is anything he wants to be.

Reality is his to Warp as he sees fit.

So if Jaspers wants to make himself a 5 or 10 dimensional being .... well,

it's just a thought away.

Mr Master
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
His case is his own. But he hasn't shown That MJJ is anything more than a 3 dimensional being. All of them are inferior to mxy, no matter how poweful they are.

That's in DC world,

NOT in Marvel

That dimensional difference is inconsequential in this debate.

Besides,

Jaspers can do whatever he wants,

I want to be a 5D being ... there it is. smile

tooa/presence
How is Movie Spiderman vs Movie Storm an unfair thread?

Mr Master
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Higher Dimensions in DC are not part of any omniverse. The omniverse would be all multiverses and 3 dimensional verses.

The DC canon Reality is exactly 52 Universes now.

I just finished reading the 52 series, you want scans,

I got em. smile

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And MJJ did nothign the sort on panel. he was said only to threaten

But Merlyn DID in fact imbue the Life-Force of the ENTIRE Omniverse into tiny Crystals,

that's an absolute Omniversal Feat (Omniverse in it's Totality)


Jaspers>Merlyn

bangin

Mr Master
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The kingdom is said to be bigger than an omniverse. encompassing all mediums. So omniverse wouldnt' even be the biggest lvl of existance in DC now would it?

Are you talking about Hypertime in the Kingdom saga?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The 5th dimesnion has never been a part of the omniverse any more than The 4th world or heaven has.

Interesting.

Wonder why and how Mxy destroyed it in World's Funnest when he took out the DC Multiverse.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Mr Master
That's in DC world,

NOT in Marvel

That dimensional difference is inconsequential in this debate.

Besides,

Jaspers can do whatever he wants,

I want to be a 5D being ... there it is. smile

Just not so. And this is a neutral ground. The reason mxy has his powers at all is becuz of his 5th dimensional status. So your entire argument isn't adding up.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Mr Master
The DC canon Reality is exactly 52 Universes now.

I just finished reading the 52 series, you want scans,

I got em. smile



But Merlyn DID in fact imbue the Life-Force of the ENTIRE Omniverse into tiny Crystals,

that's an absolute Omniversal Feat (Omniverse in it's Totality)


Jaspers>Merlyn

bangin

If you read COUNTDOWN, then you'd know that each of the 52 universes each have thier own alter timelines, thus making each one a multiverse. And You'd also know, that Hypertime still exist. Thus DC is more than one multiverse.

Mr Master
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
If you read COUNTDOWN, then you'd know that each of the 52 universes each have thier own alter timelines, thus making each one a multiverse.

So your opinion>DC on panel established facts?

Got it.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And You'd also know, that Hypertime still exist. Thus DC is more than one multiverse.

Not according to DC.

You don't agree with this,

Write DC a letter, but you will never succeed in twisting the On Panel facts.


This is from DC's 52 last issue (DC establishing what their Reality is)


http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/8440/23628110kk1.th.jpg

"Where are we?"




http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6981/88167968nu3.th.jpg

"We're witnessing the Birth of the New Multiverse"




http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1185/66229186un4.th.jpg

"Alexander Luthor, he split our Earth into thousands of Divergent Worlds, but the Planets were unstable, I watched Worlds live and die ... the broken Earths collapsed back together to form One New Earth, one far too small to contain the Energy within, in a Cosmic act of self-preservation it began replicating, unknown to anyone save myself, a New Multiverse was born"




http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7185/52724679dm5.th.jpg

"52 identical Earths in 52 identical Cosmos"


Mr Mind ended up Altering most of these Universes,

even Kingdom Come (from Elseworlds) is one of these Realities.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Mr Master
So your opinion>DC on panel established facts?

Got it.



Not according to DC.

You don't agree with this,

Write DC a letter, but you will never succeed in twisting the On Panel facts.


This is from DC's 52 last issue (DC establishing what their Reality is)


http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/8440/23628110kk1.th.jpg

"Where are we?"




http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6981/88167968nu3.th.jpg

"We're witnessing the Birth of the New Multiverse"




http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1185/66229186un4.th.jpg

"Alexander Luthor, he split our Earth into thousands of Divergent Worlds, but the Planets were unstable, I watched Worlds live and die ... the broken Earths collapsed back together to form One New Earth, one far too small to contain the Energy within, in a Cosmic act of self-preservation it began replicating, unknown to anyone save myself, a New Multiverse was born"




http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7185/52724679dm5.th.jpg

"52 identical Earths in 52 identical Cosmos"


Mr Mind ended up Altering most of these Universes,

even Kingdom Come (from Elseworlds) is one of these Realities.

per countdown, The Kingdom is STILL cannon and still current. Wave rider is the seer of hypertime.

Mr Master
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
per countdown, The Kingdom is STILL cannon and still current. Wave rider is the seer of hypertime.

Again,

don't avoid the question friend.

Are you talking about the Hypertime depicted in the "Kingdom" series?

Merlyn
Originally posted by Mr Master
Not according to DC.

You don't agree with this,

Write DC a letter, but you will never succeed in twisting the On Panel facts. So you're saying Hypertime doesn't exist? laughing

Waverider was refered to as the seer of Hypertime.... So... confused

Mr Master
Originally posted by Merlyn
So you're saying Hypertime doesn't exist?

I never said that.

I said according to 52, DC is a Multiverse.

Originally posted by Merlyn
Waverider was refered to as the seer of Hypertime.... So...

On Panel the seer of Hypertime in the "Kingdom" series is Rip Hunter:



Hypertime:

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3241/h1kp6.th.jpg

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3790/h2zn3.th.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2398/29141982td0.th.jpg

"Hypertime,

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL REALITY ...
the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee is actually Part of a Multiverse,
(Hypertime) an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"




Let's see some more laughing smilies shall we. smile

Mr Master
Here's Rip Hunter (overseer of Hypertime) in 52 calling the Multiverse "All of Creation"

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2876/85073131uu3.th.jpg

...............................................................................


Here's Supernova, Booster Gold and again Rip Hunter talking:

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1537/32207881iu0.th.jpg

"Trust the survival of Everything Ever to Three guys"

"Why are you risking the survival of the entire Multiverse"


...............................................................................


Here's Rip Hunter telling Booster Gold and Supernova,
they have to keep the existence of the one and only Multiverse a secret.

Rip also calls it "All of Time & Space."

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5394/90180733ln2.th.jpg

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8593/77691495ee3.th.jpg



Can it be that Rip Hunter doesn't know about Hypertime?

That wouldn't make sense, because in the Kingdom series.
Rip knew more about Hypertime than anyone (he was the one describing it for crying out loud)

Merlyn
Originally posted by Mr Master
I never said that.

I said according to 52, DC is a Multiverse.DC was a Multiverse well before 52...

It was referred to a few times in some JSA issues.

But yeah, supposedly the prime DCU, is just a multiverse.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Let's see some more laughing smilies shall we. smile Well since you asked so nicely, here's some...


laughing laughing out loud laughing



big grin
Originally posted by Mr Master
Can it be that Rip Hunter doesn't know about Hypertime?

That wouldn't make sense, because in the Kingdom series.
Rip knew more about Hypertime than anyone (he was the one describing it for crying out loud) Or is it possible that because these universes are so new, hunter isn't very familiar with them yet?

Christ, the guy reads a few DC issues, and thinks he knows it all. laughing out loud

Mr Master
Originally posted by Merlyn
DC was a Multiverse well before 52...

It was referred to a few times in some JSA issues.

But yeah, supposedly the prime DCU, is just a multiverse.

In 52 the DC Reality is considered a Multiverse of 52 Universes.

That's what I was stating because that's what 52 says,
and supposedly 52 is the establishment of the DC cosmology.

Originally posted by Merlyn
Or is it possible that because these universes are so new,
hunter isn't very familiar with them yet?

Who's refering to the 52 Universes anyway?

I'm talking about Hypertime,

the 52 Universes shouldn't have erased his memory
about a separate Multiverse called Hypertime.

Originally posted by Merlyn
Christ, the guy reads a few DC issues, and thinks he knows it all.

I never said I know all, debate seriously or be ignored. (no time for bull shit)

I'm presenting a valid argument with On Panel proof.

All you're doing is stating claims, without proof.

Merlyn
Originally posted by Mr Master
Who's refering to the 52 Universes anyway?

I'm talking about Hypertime,

the 52 Universes shouldn't have erased his memory
about a separate Multiverse called Hypertime. Don't see how those scans make Hypertime nullinvoid..

He's talking about the PRIME DC multiverse.... nothing more.

Mr Master
Originally posted by Merlyn
Don't see how those scans make Hypertime nullinvoid..

I never said it did.

Don't blame me for the Cosmological contradiction taking place on panel in DC.

Originally posted by Merlyn
He's talking about the PRIME DC multiverse.... nothing more.

Can you prove that?

Or is this another opinion?

Merlyn
Originally posted by Mr Master
Can you prove that? Ummm yeah..

Because they're talking about the 52 universes which are in the PRIME DCU. laughing out loud

Mr Master
Originally posted by Merlyn
Ummm yeah..

Because they're talking about the 52 universes which are in the PRIME DCU.

That's your proof ... Your personal claim?

I think you believe if you throw in a smilie with your post,
it will somehow translate to you being right. no



Kingdom Come (Elseworlds Reality) was part of the 52 Universes:

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9725/kingvs7.th.jpg

No longer Kingdom Come, now Earth-22.


I remember cats claiming Elseworlds was a Multiverse too,

so much for that myth.

nvrbeenwthagirl
master, you do realize that kingdom come and the kingdom ARE two different Realities.

Mr Master
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
master, you do realize that kingdom come and the kingdom ARE two different Realities.

Yea.

Kingdom is the series where Hypertime is explained by Rip Hunter.

Kingdom Come is the Alex Ross drawn Reality that preceeded the Kingdom arc.


Which is strange cause the Kingdom is supposed to be a continuation of Kingdom Come.

Is it possible that Hypertime includes Elseworlds as partt of it's continuity?

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Mr Master
Yea.

Kingdom is the series where Hypertime is explained by Rip Hunter.

Kingdom Come is the Alex Ross drawn Reality that preceeded the Kingdom arc.


Which is strange cause the Kingdom is supposed to be a continuation of Kingdom Come.

Is it possible that Hypertime includes Elseworlds as partt of it's continuity?

Hyertime is what validates Elseworlds. Thus making World's funnest cannon. we been saying that for a min now.

Mr Master
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Hyertime is what validates Elseworlds. Thus making World's funnest cannon. we been saying that for a min now.

Cool.

But Hypertime is also an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds (or Infinite Earths)

and if Elseworlds is part of that Realm,

then that means that both Alternate Universes (Elseworlds)
and Infinite Earths (Parallel Worlds) are part of the Hypertime Multiverse.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Mr Master
Cool.

But Hypertime is also an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds (or Infinite Earths)

and if Elseworlds is part of that Realm,

then that means that both Alternate Universes (Elseworlds)
and Infinite Earths (Parallel Worlds) are part of the Hypertime Multiverse.
Hypertime as designed was a Megaverse or actually omniverse. it encompassed every reality, even other mediums. But Hypertime is NOT the infinite earths. That was destroyed before Hypertime was discovered. So we know they aren't the same.

Mordum
mr myx can probably retcon mjj i believe he did it to some others. The thing about myx is he can do anything. When he loses he seems to do it on purpose.

Astner
Originally posted by Mr Master
I never said that.

I said according to 52, DC is a Multiverse.



On Panel the seer of Hypertime in the "Kingdom" series is Rip Hunter:



Hypertime:

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3241/h1kp6.th.jpg

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3790/h2zn3.th.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2398/29141982td0.th.jpg

"Hypertime,

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL REALITY ...
the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee is actually Part of a Multiverse,
(Hypertime) an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"




Let's see some more laughing smilies shall we. smile
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn ... I mean ouch! cool

Galan007
Originally posted by Mordum
mr myx can probably retcon Mxy can, and has retconned beings on panel, with a thought. thumb up

starlock
Mxy for the win


i will take mxy who has beaten spectre more than once and destroyed the DC universe,retconned on panel, and so much more

Over a mutant who might have taken over a omniverse....but did not!
over a mutant who- when they begin the match is a normal human mutant,who's reality warp has to start from scratch and start growing

Mxy 10/10

xjustice69x
well said starlock
on panel feats> on panel hype

starlock
Originally posted by xjustice69x
well said starlock
on panel feats> on panel hype

You know i wonder how powerfull the omniversal merlyn was (is)? or even roma-how come these two could not do what the fury did? figure out how to beat MJJ?-its comics hey

Mr Master
Originally posted by starlock
Mxy for the win

It doesn't matter.

Originally posted by starlock
i will take mxy who has beaten spectre more than once and destroyed the DC universe,retconned on panel, and so much more

Means nothing.

Why?

Cause Merlyn could do all that and couldn't stop Jaspers.

Originally posted by starlock
Over a mutant who might have taken over a omniverse....but did not!

Obviously Marvel was not going to allow Marvel to become Jaspers' Marvel.

An entire continuity of Comics would have been disrupted by this,

so instead a Plot Device was introduced (namely the Fury)

Originally posted by starlock
over a mutant who- when they begin the match is a normal human mutant,who's reality warp has to start from scratch and start growing

It starts with him,

so instantly he becomes indestructible,
because his Reality Warp is already protecting his body.


Anyone who claims Jaspers is vulnerable within Reality at any point in time is full of shit and hasn't read the Comics with Jaspers in them.

Originally posted by starlock
Mxy 10/10

Bugs Bunny 10/10

Galan007
Originally posted by Mr Master
Means nothing.

Why?

Cause Merlyn could do all that and couldn't stop Jaspers. Why would Merlyn destroy all of Marvel, in order to prevent MJJ from destroying all of Marvel? stick out tongue

Galan007
Originally posted by Mr Master
Bugs Bunny 10/10 You knows whats funny?

I found some old comics featuring both Mxy and Bugs, in the same issue. laughing out loud

Mr Master
Originally posted by xjustice69x
on panel feats> on panel hype

I challenge you to prove Merlyn playing with the entire Omniverse as hype.

I challenge you to prove Merlyn wasn't in total control of the Omniverse.

I challenge you to prove Merlyn didn't create a weapon for others to use,
that can erase any Universe in the Omniverse.

I challenge you to prove Merlyn didn't create the Starlight Citidel,
it alone can erase Universes, and it also contains COUNTLESS Universes (a Multiverse) so Merlyn created a Multiverse within Otherworld aswell.

I challenge you to prove Merlyn didn't already reverse a Prime Multiversal collapse by allowing Captain Britain and Excalibur to access SOME of the power of the Energy Matrix, they Re-created the Prime Multiverse aswell.

I challenge you to prove Merlyn didn't use the Prime Multiverse as the stake in a Chess Game.

(talk absolute power over Reality) smile


And yet,

Jaspers > Merlyn


In this case, Feats don't mean shit

Mr Master
Originally posted by Galan007
Why would Merlyn destroy all of Marvel, in order to prevent MJJ from destroying all of Marvel?

thumb up Precisely.

Some forget it's not in Merlyn's interest to destroy the Omniverse,

he's it's Guardian. smile

Mr Master
Originally posted by Galan007
You knows whats funny?

I found some old comics featuring both Mxy and Bugs, in the same issue. laughing out loud

laughing

I love to see that.

Galan007
Originally posted by Mr Master
Some forget it's not in Merlyn's interest to destroy the Omniverse,

he's it's Guardian. smile The purpose of being the Omniverses Guardian would kind of go out the window, if you destroyed it all just to stop one villain, lol.


Point being,

If certain events in comics weren't allowed to play out, LT would intervene every single time a new villain is revealed.

But that's just not how things go down in comic-dom. smile
Originally posted by Mr Master
laughing

I love to see that. They're ridiculously goofy, even for Mxy-related comics.

Complete with anvils dropping on them and everything. laughing out loud

Mr Master
Originally posted by Galan007
The purpose of being the Omniverses Guardian would kind of go out the window, if you destroyed it all just to stop one villain, lol.

I agree.

It wouldn't have stopped him anyway,

remember Merlyn said erasing Reality like in the Jaspers 238 case
would not work of 616 Jaspers.

And if you can't erase the Universe he's in,
then erasing the rest of the Universes would be pointless,
as Jaspers would exist happily in his Warped Reality.

Originally posted by Galan007
Point being,

If certain events in comics weren't allowed to play out, LT would intervene every single time a new villain is revealed.

Well LT can only intervene if there's a Mystical Imbalance in the Multiverse.

He can't intervene if it's Natural Order taking place,

eg. Abraxas is the embodiment of Multiversal destruction,
but LT can't interfere because that's his purpose as a Concept (Natural Order)

Entropy/Genis ending the Multiverse (Natural Order)

I believe the same principal applies to a Jaspers type, because Jaspers was not trying to destroy the Omniverse, Jaspers was trying to Remake the Omniverse in his own image.

Remember what the LT said about IG/Thanos (Natural selection of the strongest surviving)

Originally posted by Galan007
But that's just not how things go down in comic-dom.

thumb up That's the easiest way to make sense out of it.

Originally posted by Galan007
They're ridiculously goofy, even for Mxy-related comics.

Complete with anvils dropping on them and everything. laughing out loud

Cartoons are no joke no powers but immortal and permanantly indestructible laughing out loud

xjustice69x
Originally posted by Mr Master
I challenge you to prove Merlyn playing with the entire Omniverse as hype.

I challenge you to prove Merlyn wasn't in total control of the Omniverse.

I challenge you to prove Merlyn didn't create a weapon for others to use,
that can erase any Universe in the Omniverse.

I challenge you to prove Merlyn didn't create the Starlight Citidel,
it alone can erase Universes, and it also contains COUNTLESS Universes (a Multiverse) so Merlyn created a Multiverse within Otherworld aswell.

I challenge you to prove Merlyn didn't already reverse a Prime Multiversal collapse by allowing Captain Britain and Excalibur to access SOME of the power of the Energy Matrix, they Re-created the Prime Multiverse aswell.

I challenge you to prove Merlyn didn't use the Prime Multiverse as the stake in a Chess Game.

(talk absolute power over Reality) smile


And yet,

Jaspers > Merlyn


In this case, Feats don't mean shit

well if feats dont mean anything then i guess mjj wins.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by xjustice69x
well if feats dont mean anything then i guess mjj wins.

They Don't when it's a character that MM wants to win.

Mr Master
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
They Don't when it's a character that MM wants to win.

Actually I never said Jaspers wins,

so before you attemp to besmirch my name, know what you're talking about before you spew shit

I said they can't hurt each other from the very beginning.


Merlyn can't hurt Jaspers, neither can Mxy.

Jaspers had once weakness, a Plot Device called the Fury.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually I never said Jaspers wins,

so before you attemp to besmirch my name, know what you're talking about before you spew shit

I said they can't hurt each other from the very beginning.


Merlyn can't hurt Jaspers, neither can Mxy.

Jaspers had once weakness, a Plot Device called the Fury.

Mxy can create a Thousand Furies. Mxy was able to make a Doomsday Clone so powerful, that it was able to kill himself with it. Sealing MJJ up in a bubble that he can never escape seems plausible. As does retconning Mjj's family line into trees or fignewtons. The evidence leands HEAVILY in favor of mxy beating MJJ eight ways to sunday. mxy has the on panel feats as well as the battles with Superior Opponents to MJJ. while I can't recall you ever posting any battles MJJ had that was anything close to someone of Mxy's calibur and SKILL.

Mr Master
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Mxy can create a Thousand Furies. Mxy was able to make a Doomsday Clone so powerful, that it was able to kill himself with it. Sealing MJJ up in a bubble that he can never escape seems plausible. As does retconning Mjj's family line into trees or fignewtons. The evidence leands HEAVILY in favor of mxy beating MJJ eight ways to sunday. mxy has the on panel feats as well as the battles with Superior Opponents to MJJ. while I can't recall you ever posting any battles MJJ had that was anything close to someone of Mxy's calibur and SKILL.

blahblah

Just shut up already.

Astner
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Mxy can create a Thousand Furies. Mxy was able to make a Doomsday Clone so powerful, that it was able to kill himself with it. Sealing MJJ up in a bubble that he can never escape seems plausible. As does retconning Mjj's family line into trees or fignewtons. The evidence leands HEAVILY in favor of mxy beating MJJ eight ways to sunday. mxy has the on panel feats as well as the battles with Superior Opponents to MJJ. while I can't recall you ever posting any battles MJJ had that was anything close to someone of Mxy's calibur and SKILL.
ZOMG!!!!111 THIS IS SO FULL OF EV!DENCE!!!!!1 laughing

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Mr Master
blahblah

Just shut up already.

No. Mxy creates a thousand MJJ's and pwns the one. Nuff said. And a million Furies on top of that. With extra Imp killing Doomsdays for added effect. And then he retcons MJJ's entire family into chicken's and fries them and then seals them up with the ultimator. laughing

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Astner
ZOMG!!!!111 THIS IS SO FULL OF EV!DENCE!!!!!1 laughing

name one thing I said that was out of mxy's power? Actually most of the stuff I named he's done except the furies part.

Astner
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
name one thing I said that was out of mxy's power? Actually most of the stuff I named he's done except the furies part.
Well I stopped reading after the first sentence, which was the Fury part.

Galan007
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Mxy was able to make a Doomsday Clone so powerful, that it was able to kill himself with it. The only reason that version of DD could "kill" Mxy, was because Mxy renounced ALL of his power, .


Basically,

Mxy has to allow himself to "die", and even when he wants to "die"..... He can't. laughing out loud

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Galan007
The only reason that version of DD could "kill" Mxy, was because Mxy renounced ALL of his power, .


Basically,

Mxy has to allow himself to "die", and even when he wants to "die"..... He can't. laughing out loud
the point was that he still made it more powerful than any other doomsday. And Even renouncing his power, he still didnt, or else the doomsday guy would have disappeared. wacky mxy story. but in a superman book, so cannon non the less.

Galan007
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
he still didnt, or else the doomsday guy would have disappeared. Giving up all of your power, doesn't mean something you created is automatically destroyed.

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