Spectre vs Myx (new edition)

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Mordum
To those saying spectre depowered myx during day of vengeance read.

* Though named as the Earth 1 Mister Mxyzptlk, it seems that it was the Earth-Two version of the character who is apparently killed in Adventures of Superman #646 in the Ruin saga, as he looks far closer and acts far kinder to Superman which is inline with the Earth 2 Mister Mxyztplk.

More importantly, this character is specifically depowered because of the effects done to the Earth universe's magick as noted in earlier Justice Society stories which is the source of Mxyztplk powers.

He also uses the known incantation of the reverse form of his name to disappear from the Earth dimension and return to his home dimension which he does after being shot through his chest.

These conditions specifically contradicts the Post-Crisis version Mxyzptlk who only leaves because he agrees to do so, as well as using some undetermined higher dimensional powers which were not effected by magick or physical sciences from the Earth dimension.

Some suggest that this was really the Earth-Two Mister Mxyzptlk simply using his counterpart's name as this happened just before Kal-L returned to the DC universe due to the Infinite Crisis



So who wins?

nvrbeenwthagirl
There is only one mxy. As there is only one 5th dimension. It could be an aspect of mxy, like batman is, and the mxy twins. Spectre wins unless Mxy ties him to the cosmos or something crazy like that. Mxy would bop him on the head or do something silly, but he can't really win. Nor can the spectre over ride Mxy's ban on death.

Mordum
People say Spectre depowered myx in the day of venegeance saga but thus making spectre making more powerful. But this wouldnt make sense seeing as how myx does not derive his power from magic it only appears if he does. There seems to be multiple myxs the weaker version who actually uses magic and the omnipotent one who appears more often.

Juntai
Originally posted by Mordum
To those saying spectre depowered myx during day of vengeance read.

* Though named as the Earth 1 Mister Mxyzptlk, it seems that it was the Earth-Two version of the character who is apparently killed in Adventures of Superman #646 in the Ruin saga, as he looks far closer and acts far kinder to Superman which is inline with the Earth 2 Mister Mxyztplk.

More importantly, this character is specifically depowered because of the effects done to the Earth universe's magick as noted in earlier Justice Society stories which is the source of Mxyztplk powers.

He also uses the known incantation of the reverse form of his name to disappear from the Earth dimension and return to his home dimension which he does after being shot through his chest.

These conditions specifically contradicts the Post-Crisis version Mxyzptlk who only leaves because he agrees to do so, as well as using some undetermined higher dimensional powers which were not effected by magick or physical sciences from the Earth dimension.

Some suggest that this was really the Earth-Two Mister Mxyzptlk simply using his counterpart's name as this happened just before Kal-L returned to the DC universe due to the Infinite Crisis



So who wins? Mxy leaves because he wants to, but at the same time, he always says his name to do it, even when he's not duped into doing it. In other appearances he's got the short end of the stick and just said his name to leave. In one occurance, Superman looked at him all pissed off, and he said his name and left. So him doing that isn't contradictory to his character.

None of what happened is really contradictory to Mxy at all.


And his powers being messed up, because of what was done to the Universe's magic? Guess who did that?

charlemagne9746
Spectre should win this

quanchi112
myx puts him back in his cage.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by quanchi112
myx puts him back in his cage.

You don't even know what the cage represented. Rediculous. are you like 10? if you were then maybe i'd be nicer to you becuz i'd understand that you really dont' have that high of a reading comprehention yet.

quanchi112
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You don't even know what the cage represented. Rediculous. are you like 10? if you were then maybe i'd be nicer to you becuz i'd understand that you really dont' have that high of a reading comprehention yet. mxy has done more impressive things. while spectre loses to amped cap marvel. spectre cant handle ultimate power either. mxy more impressive feats.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by quanchi112
mxy has done more impressive things. while spectre loses to amped cap marvel. spectre cant handle ultimate power either. mxy more impressive feats.
Mxy has never had ultimate power. That is one. two, The Spectre was never meant to handle Ultimate power. It has a human host. Humans aren't meant to handle ultimate power. What does that have to do with the power the spectre actually has? Not a damned thing. 3, Mxy has more impressive feats than the LT as well. Do you think he puts the lT in a cage? and one more thing, the spectre had no host when he fought Cm. so dont' be a retard and bring that up again ok.

quanchi112
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Mxy has never had ultimate power. That is one. two, The Spectre was never meant to handle Ultimate power. It has a human host. Humans aren't meant to handle ultimate power. What does that have to do with the power the spectre actually has? Not a damned thing. 3, Mxy has more impressive feats than the LT as well. Do you think he puts the lT in a cage? and one more thing, the spectre had no host when he fought Cm. so dont' be a retard and bring that up again ok. spectre needs a good host to stand a chance. mxy just puts him ina acge. he couldnt put lt in a cage. lt>mxy>spectre. spectre would rather feel more at home fighting batman in a dark alley. leave the big time cosmic stuff to mxy and lt. spectre can be such a putz. he can be powerful to but to compare him to either is just wrong in my opinion.

Juntai
lmao.

Astner
Mxy wasn't in the DoV.

kevdude
Mxy was in Superman during DoV running around scared because of The Spectre destroying very powerful magical beings.. Mxy would lose just like the Thunderbolt lost, The Spectre was even blinded and still beat him. The Spectre was only stopped by God himself.

Astner
Originally posted by kevdude
Mxy was in Superman during DoV running around scared because of The Spectre destroying very powerful magical beings.. Mxy would lose just like the Thunderbolt lost, The Spectre was even blinded and still beat him. The Spectre was only stopped by God himself.
Yeah but Mxyzptlk was never in DoV, which issue did Spectre beat him in?

Kutulu
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
There is only one mxy. As there is only one 5th dimension. It could be an aspect of mxy, like batman is , and the mxy twins.

Batman is an aspect of Mxy? eek!

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Kutulu
Batman is an aspect of Mxy? eek!

meant Batmite. stick out tongue

quanchi112
Originally posted by Astner
Yeah but Mxyzptlk was never in DoV, which issue did Spectre beat him in? mxy has been shown more powerful than spectre.

cap marvel crushed him amped up. spectre needs a host or he can be really taken for a fool. spectre needs lots of things to happen to even give mxy a fight. mxy wins this all day.

norrinradd43
If I remember right, Captain Marvel still lost to Specter in that fight

quanchi112
Originally posted by norrinradd43
If I remember right, Captain Marvel still lost to Specter in that fight spectre had to leave becuz he was losing. cap marvel never fought him amped. only reason spectre got away is becuz enchantress went whacky and turned evil. if cap marvell still would have been amped it was a foregone conclusion that spectre was toast. spectre was getting creamed and had to escape and regroup.

Alfheim
Mxy wins. Joker with 99 percent of his powerr took control of the Spectre.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Alfheim
Mxy wins. Joker with 99 percent of his powerr took control of the Spectre. thumb up

Galan007
Originally posted by Mordum
People say Spectre depowered myx in the day of venegeance saga but thus making spectre making more powerful. Meh,

Spectre didn't completely depower Mxy. ermm

kevdude
Originally posted by quanchi112
spectre had to leave becuz he was losing. cap marvel never fought him amped. only reason spectre got away is becuz enchantress went whacky and turned evil. if cap marvell still would have been amped it was a foregone conclusion that spectre was toast. spectre was getting creamed and had to escape and regroup.

Looks like you need to reread DOV again and possibly again just to begin to understand how powerful Cap Marvel was, and along with other things u clearly miss. wink

quanchi112
Originally posted by kevdude
Looks like you need to reread DOV again and possibly again just to begin to understand how powerful Cap Marvel was, and along with other things u clearly miss. wink i knew he was amped. but mxy could have still taken him down. mxy is more impressive with panel feats and has caged the mighty spectre. cap marvel was beating the stuffing out of spectre.http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/spectrehavingeclipsotakehimaway.jpg

good thing spectre got out of there.

quanchi112
Originally posted by kevdude
Looks like you need to reread DOV again and possibly again just to begin to understand how powerful Cap Marvel was, and along with other things u clearly miss. wink look how scared the mighty spectre is. good thing eclipso was there for a pep talk.
stick out tongue

wow spectre was getting trounced. he was very scared. goof thing he didnt have to fight cap marvel amped again and a great thing he got away to save himself.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/spectreisjustafraid.jpg

kevdude
are you serious??? confused Mxy was running around in Superman's comic scared of what was happening to more powerful magical beings and he lost most of his powers just as a side effect from those fights.. all he is is a little demon/genie running around

Estacado
Originally posted by kevdude
are you serious??? confused Mxy was running around in Superman's comic scared of what was happening to more powerful magical beings and he lost most of his powers just as a side effect from those fights.. all he is is a little demon/genie running around
Don't blame him he is just plain stupid.happy

quanchi112
Originally posted by kevdude
are you serious??? confused Mxy was running around in Superman's comic scared of what was happening to more powerful magical beings and he lost most of his powers just as a side effect from those fights.. all he is is a little demon/genie running around he also caged the spectre. what did spectre do to mxy? what feats surpass his. mxy written correctly wipes the floor with spectre as cap marvel did. this spectre could get beaten by enchantress and one hero to amp. hes lucky she went crazy becuz spectre was getting creamed. im just here to represent the facts. im showing u scans of the comic since u think im confused this way u get to see it for urself.
stick out tongue

quanchi112
Originally posted by Estacado
Don't blame him he is just plain stupid.happy i calls it how i see s it. that is all. wink

kevdude
Originally posted by quanchi112
he also caged the spectre. what did spectre do to mxy? what feats surpass his. mxy written correctly wipes the floor with spectre as cap marvel did. this spectre could get beaten by enchantress and one hero to amp. hes lucky she went crazy becuz spectre was getting creamed. im just here to represent the facts. im showing u scans of the comic since u think im confused this way u get to see it for urself.
stick out tongue

You evidently are confused since it looks like all you read about is the ending of the fights and don't read things that lead up to them.. A Hal/Spectre being tricked and getting stuck on creation when he could have gotten off anytime.. Show me a scan where Mxy has gone up against someone like Michael or Nabu, then he will be as powerful as you think.

Galan007
Originally posted by kevdude
Show me a scan where Mxy has gone up against someone like Michael or Nabu, then he will be as powerful as you think. But Spectre got his arse kicked by Mikey. confused

Superherovandal
Originally posted by Galan007
But Spectre got his arse kicked by Mikey. confused Micheal has all of gods power. its kinda understandable that Spectre'd lose. wink

quanchi112
Originally posted by kevdude
You evidently are confused since it looks like all you read about is the ending of the fights and don't read things that lead up to them.. A Hal/Spectre being tricked and getting stuck on creation when he could have gotten off anytime.. Show me a scan where Mxy has gone up against someone like Michael or Nabu, then he will be as powerful as you think. no. quit talking of other characters. joker put spectre in a cage, his power is greater than spectres. mxy wins this hands down. spctre failed against am, was egtting raped by amped cap marvel. mxy wins.

Galan007
Originally posted by Superherovandal
Micheal has all of gods power. its kinda understandable that Spectre'd lose. wink Yes it is.

Thus the reason why that particular battle, is not a good way to gauge Spectre's power. wink

Superherovandal
Originally posted by quanchi112
no. quit talking of other characters. joker put spectre in a cage, his power is greater than spectres. mxy wins this hands down. spctre failed against am, was egtting raped by amped cap marvel. mxy wins. yes he put him in a cage but the only reason Spectre was trapped was because he'd destroy the universe if he did escape. Not because Joker was more powerful. also you must not have read DOV if you think a normal Captain Marvel was facing Spectre. It was Captain Marvel being powered by every magician remaining against Spectre. So he was uber-powered. another thing you fail to understand is that version of Spectre is nowhere near full power due to God not giving him the power to destroy all of the magic and still he owned Phantom Stranger, killed Shazam, destroyed the Rock of Eternity, destroyed Atlantis, killed Nabu, defeated Mxy, defeated or killed Satannus. and thats not even all of his feats.

Galan007
Originally posted by Superherovandal
defeated Mxy When? confused

Superherovandal
wait never mind that was ruin. how'd i mix them up. however now that i think about it that was the lamest death for mxy ever even though he came back.

Galan007
Originally posted by Superherovandal
wait never mind that was ruin. how'd i mix them up. however now that i think about it that was the lamest death for mxy ever even though he came back. Well that was the catalyst which allowed a depowered Mxy to return back to the 5th Dimension.

Keep in mind Mxy was depowered in that instance, but he was not completely powerless. smile

quanchi112
Originally posted by Superherovandal
yes he put him in a cage but the only reason Spectre was trapped was because he'd destroy the universe if he did escape. Not because Joker was more powerful. also you must not have read DOV if you think a normal Captain Marvel was facing Spectre. It was Captain Marvel being powered by every magician remaining against Spectre. So he was uber-powered. another thing you fail to understand is that version of Spectre is nowhere near full power due to God not giving him the power to destroy all of the magic and still he owned Phantom Stranger, killed Shazam, destroyed the Rock of Eternity, destroyed Atlantis, killed Nabu, defeated Mxy, defeated or killed Satannus. and thats not even all of his feats. how do u miss when i say amped up cap marvel. amped up means he had more power. enchantress was powering him up along with tons of meagical beings. cant u eeven read what im saying. amped means powered up. its ih the very quote u responded to.
laughing

yeah he had the power to destory the universe. hes more powerful than spectre. spctre had to sit there like a good little birdey.

laughing

Juntai
lmao.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Juntai
lmao. what is funny?

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