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Zatanna has the speedforce in this battle.

Can she beat these 2 powerful mystics?

?

No

Strange has defenses that work at higher speed

Originally posted by Endless Mike
No

Strange has defenses that work at higher speed Defenses > the speed of the speedforce? I doubt it.

Remember that the SF would allow Zatanna to think at instantaneous rates, and say her spells just as quickly.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
No

Strange has defenses that work at higher speed
Ninjas much?sly

She's Win no Doubt. She's be like the flash with Spells. She could say a million Spells in under apico second.

Originally posted by Estacado
Ninjas much?sly

PIS much?

I don't think the speedforce really would matter too much, assuming they had some prep. If not, she might win by an ambush.

Fate she could beat. But not Strange.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
But not Strange. Why?

With the speedforce? She would annihilate both of them before they even knew they were in a battle.

Fate

Fate solos.

Originally posted by Galan007
Why?

Even if she kills Strange, he can just pwn her using his astral form. Or he can absorb her spells, stop time, etc. Strange can resurrect himself.

Zatanna says at superspeed: "WTF ajnin dnah"

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Even if she kills Strange, he can just pwn her using his astral form. Or he can absorb her spells, stop time, etc. Strange can resurrect himself. Strange can stop thousands of spells being cast, in a picosecond?

Interesting....

Originally posted by Galan007
Strange can stop thousands of spells being cast, in a picosecond?

Interesting....

Scary thing is, he could. Even if she kills him, his astral form will pwn her.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Scary thing is, he could. Even if she kills him, his astral form will pwn her. The Strange hype is ridiculous.

Are you surprised? It's that crazy hotheaded mongoose.

Just throw an apocalypse plushie at him and he'll go cuddle it in a corner.

Leaving the rest of us with hand ninja FTW.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Leaving the rest of us with hand ninja FTW. ninja hand, lol.

bag

Originally posted by Galan007
The Strange hype is ridiculous.

Not really. It's exactly what happened when Death killed him. He dropped a planet on her and used some major magic to beat her ass.


Dr. Fate I can see beating him with the speed force, but not Zatanna. She lacks the uber magical chops. Fate's got connections that she doesn't.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Not really. It's exactly what happened when Death killed him. He dropped a planet on her and used some major magic to beat her ass.


Dr. Fate I can see beating him with the speed force, but not Zatanna. She lacks the uber magical chops. Fate's got connections that she doesn't.

And he stalemated the IG too, huh?

Originally posted by Galan007


And he stalemated the IG too, huh?

Each 1 of the gems individually being used at full potential. Which is impressive, but not stalemating the IG.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Each 1 of the gems individually being used at full potential. Which is impressive, but not stalemating the IG. *cough*Warlock wasn't trying to harm Strange*cough*

Meh! a mortal with no powers has beaten Death in the past.

Originally posted by Galan007
*cough*Warlock wasn't trying to harm Strange*cough*

Quiet you. durfist

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Meh! a mortal with no powers has beaten Death in the past.

I'm pretty sure Deadly Ernest was a one-time thing, right?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I'm pretty sure Deadly Ernest was a one-time thing, right?

Still beat her quite easily though, and he had no powers or magical spells.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Still beat her quite easily though, and he had no powers or magical spells.

So to this day, we still don't know how he beat her?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
So to this day, we still don't know how he beat her?

He hasn't apperance again since the 1990's. Apparently every character in the Alpha Flight universe has to be uber

Origin:
1. http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/AlphaFlight08-09.jpg
2. http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/AlphaFlight08-10.jpg
3. http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/AlphaFlight08-11.jpg

About him:
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AlphaFlight31-11.jpg

Originally posted by King_Mungi
He hasn't apperance again since the 1990's. Apparently every character in the Alpha Flight universe has to be uber

Origin:
1. http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/AlphaFlight08-09.jpg
2. http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/AlphaFlight08-10.jpg
3. http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/AlphaFlight08-11.jpg

About him:
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AlphaFlight31-11.jpg

Fate/Strange FTW

Originally posted by King_Mungi
He hasn't apperance again since the 1990's. Apparently every character in the Alpha Flight universe has to be uber

Origin:
1. http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/AlphaFlight08-09.jpg
2. http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/AlphaFlight08-10.jpg
3. http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/AlphaFlight08-11.jpg

About him:
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AlphaFlight31-11.jpg

Damn canadians..... durfist

Well, all we can go on to see how powerful a Strange/Fate team would be is where they were one in the Amalgam's Dr.Strangefate. And...well....he was pretty much god in those stupid comics.

Of course, they had xavier's telepathy, but since both are better telepaths than X, it didn't make much sense.

Originally posted by Galan007
Defenses > the speed of the speedforce? I doubt it.

Remember that the SF would allow Zatanna to think at instantaneous rates, and say her spells just as quickly.

Are you making the stipulations that the speedforce will do this? is there precident? does not magic need finese? would not a fireball still travel at the same speed? would not the spell itself still take normal time once it is cast? would she always go first?

I am not sure but this kind of thread can be hard to gauge.
i can see a double knockout...as a hundred spells are gathering from zantana the team beats her...but then her spells take them out lol,