Superman and Mon-El vs Sentry and Supreme

Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.



Parallex
No holds barred, each at max power.

Gecko4lif
supes prime kill the other team and his partner

Parallex
YOU are correct almost,A prime Mon El would give supes everything he could handle and then some especially since the native of Mon El's home world are natually stronger than Kal Els. Actually I made a mistake in the title I was thinking Superman and Sentry vs Mon El and Supreme. Supreme and Sentry would be a lil different though.Supreme always stuck me as a "raw dog" version of Superman. One that just really did'nt give &%&$ about using max force and was violent as hell. Sentry still has a question mark on him in my mind in what is the true range and limits of his powers which are awesome ,kinda makes him a wild card.

TricksterPriest
That question mark, plus the experience edge, are why team 1 wins. wink

carver9
Sentry and supreme>>Superman. Monel is the trump card.

give it to sentry and supreme since sentry hasnt shown a weakness yet and supreme being one of the most powerful versions of supermen (besides King hyperion.).

TricksterPriest
I don't know Supreme, so I'll avoid the issue and put him at Superman level.

Mon-El is around Supes level, maybe slightly below the man himself.

Sentry is not Supes level. 2 Superman-levelers>1. 313

Parallex
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_(comics)

carver9
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I don't know Supreme, so I'll avoid the issue and put him at Superman level.

Mon-El is around Supes level, maybe slightly below the man himself.

Sentry is not Supes level. 2 Superman-levelers>1. 313

Youre opinion but my opinion Sentry>>superman. I think I forgot a dash >, there ya go.

vlaaad12345
Originally posted by carver9
Sentry and supreme>>Superman. Monel is the trump card.

give it to sentry and supreme since sentry hasnt shown a weakness yet and supreme being one of the most powerful versions of supermen (besides King hyperion.).
Ultron,not catching helicarrier,getting pwned by collective,sentry isnt in supes level buddy.

carver9
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Ultron,not catching helicarrier,getting pwned by collective,sentry isnt in supes level buddy.

getting almost knocked out by black canary small scream. Getting one shotted by despero. Getting one shotted by gog. Getting one shotted by captain marvel on two occasions. Getting his neck almost taken off by wonderwoman. Getting owned by batman with black k-nite. Getting owned by doctor poloris. Getting owned by cheetah. Getting his jaw broke with one punch by zod. Getting owned by a girl magneto who aint nothing compare to magneto.
Couldnt even move black adam out of the city and wasnt holding back either.
Again sentry is >> superman.

carver9
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Ultron,not catching helicarrier,getting pwned by collective,sentry isnt in supes level buddy.

By the way, i guess you dont know who the collective is and sentry and collective stalemated.

vlaaad12345
Originally posted by carver9
getting almost knocked out by black canary small scream. Getting one shotted by despero. Getting one shotted by gog. Getting one shotted by captain marvel on two occasions. Getting his neck almost taken off by wonderwoman. Getting owned by batman with black k-nite. Getting owned by doctor poloris. Getting owned by cheetah. Getting his jaw broke with one punch by zod. Getting owned by a girl magneto who aint nothing compare to magneto.
Couldnt even move black adam out of the city and wasnt holding back either.
Again sentry is >> superman.
shit kicked by ultron weaker then anyone you listed,couldnt catch a helicarrier,and no collective didnt stalemate he overpowered sentry and knocked him out of the fight for awhile,let me know when sentry starts destroying planets with punches and then supes might start feeling him,and lol at wonderwoman taking his neck off he kicked the **** out of her the whole fight and healed seconds latter.

Rorschach
Originally posted by carver9
getting almost knocked out by black canary small scream.

And then saying he was fine afterwards.

Not bad considering he has superhuman hearing. Preus was going crazy just hearing the human body work.

Originally posted by carver9
Getting one shotted by despero.

And then beating him with one blast of heat vision in Superman/Batman


Originally posted by carver9
Getting one shotted by gog.

Gog didn't one shot Superman, not even after injecting him with Knite.

Originally posted by carver9
getting almost knocked out by black canary small scream. Getting one shotted by captain marvel on two occasions.

Provide some scans or a issue number.

Captain Marvel only knocked out Superman after taking him by surprise, even then he had to use 2 magically charged punches and mentioned it was because Superman was weak against magic.

Originally posted by carver9
Getting his neck almost taken off by wonderwoman.

Magic tiara.

He healed in seconds.

Originally posted by carver9
Getting owned by batman with black k-nite.

That was the blackrock not black Knite. It draws power from millions of sources.

Please know what the **** you're talking about.

Originally posted by carver9
Getting owned by doctor poloris.

Getting hit by ship and recovering in seconds doesn't count as ownage.

Originally posted by carver9
Getting owned by cheetah.

Wasn't that an powered up Cheetah? And wasn't it several years ago?

Originally posted by carver9
Getting his jaw broke with one punch by zod.

Not really a bad showing considering Zod had captured Bizarro and was torturing him, and that Zod was power by red sunlight.

Late on Superman beat him anyway, Zod ran into Superman's back and died.

Originally posted by carver9
Getting owned by a girl magneto who aint nothing compare to magneto.

What the f**k?

Originally posted by carver9
Couldnt even move black adam out of the city and wasnt holding back either.

And this is bad how?

Do you think Black Adam is some kind of weakling?

And you miss the part where Superman said his punch could have split a moon.

Originally posted by carver9
Again sentry is >> superman.

I'm not trying to say Superman is any better than Sentry. I have no problems with anyone saying Sentry is greater than Superman.

I'd just like it if you stopped trying to bullshit everyone.

carver9
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
shit kicked by ultron weaker then anyone you listed,couldnt catch a helicarrier,and no collective didnt stalemate he overpowered sentry and knocked him out of the fight for awhile,let me know when sentry starts destroying planets with punches and then supes might start feeling him,and lol at wonderwoman taking his neck off he kicked the **** out of her the whole fight and healed seconds latter.

I want you to look at wonderwoman and superman stats and tell me who is superior.
http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=countdowntoinfinitecrisis12013.jpg
http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=countdowntoinfinitecrisis01200.jpg

Now I want you to look at the fight and tell me who is screaming and how fast he healed and show me a scan of superman destroying a planet, no I can go a little lower, show me him destroying a moon.
http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job17mx.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job29bn.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job39vm.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job40cx.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job59fa.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job60xb.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job79wa.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job81cs.jpg
http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job94sk.jpg
http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job108hs.jpg
http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job110ay.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job127to.jpg
http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job131ps.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job146fc.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job154ty.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job165zv.jpg

Now when sentry was fighting it was stated that nearby planets was getting destroyed but that was never said for superman.

Rorschach
Originally posted by carver9
I want you to look at wonderwoman and superman stats and tell me who is superior.
http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=countdowntoinfinitecrisis12013.jpg
http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=countdowntoinfinitecrisis01200.jpg

Links don't work.

Originally posted by carver9
Now I want you to look at the fight and tell me who is screaming and how fast he healed and show me a scan of superman destroying a planet, no I can go a little lower, show me him destroying a moon.
http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job17mx.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job29bn.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job39vm.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job40cx.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job59fa.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job60xb.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job79wa.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job81cs.jpg
http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job94sk.jpg
http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job108hs.jpg
http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job110ay.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job127to.jpg
http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job131ps.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job146fc.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job154ty.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=job165zv.jpg

Superman was kicking her ass for the majority of the fight. She's the one that got knocked from the Sun to the Earth. Supes didn't even want to kill immediately, he wanted to maker her suffer.

He healed in seconds.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff144/KMCSuperman/09-1.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff144/KMCSuperman/10-1.jpg

Supergirl, who is much weaker than Superman destroys a moon.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff144/KMCSuperman/Untitled-Scanned-08.jpg

Superman splits a moon in half.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff144/KMCSuperman/Superman-LexLuthor200028.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
Now when sentry was fighting it was stated that nearby planets was getting destroyed but that was never said for superman.

He had Zod were destroying a planet when fighting in the Phantom Zone.

He and the other Zod were destroying a planet when fighting, under a red sun.

Superman's said that Supergirl can crack the the Earth in half.

Sirius77
Originally posted by carver9
getting almost knocked out by black canary small scream. Getting one shotted by despero. Getting one shotted by gog. Getting one shotted by captain marvel on two occasions. Getting his neck almost taken off by wonderwoman. Getting owned by batman with black k-nite. Getting owned by doctor poloris. Getting owned by cheetah. Getting his jaw broke with one punch by zod. Getting owned by a girl magneto who aint nothing compare to magneto.
Couldnt even move black adam out of the city and wasnt holding back either.
Again sentry is >> superman.

The canary scream= jobbing

Despero is strong enough to hold up the rock of eternity.
He would pwn sentry any day. Hes not someone to be trifled
with.He and Jonny sorrow pwned shazam. Shazam is a member
of the quintessence.

Gog is almost superman level. And sentry got one shotted by a
female ultron. And he couldn't lift a helicarrier opposed to
superman who has pushed moons under his own strength.

Captain Marvel is a magically powered being, and is powered by an
entire pantheon of gods and a member which include two members
of the quintessence. Hes no push-over.

Wonderwoman is also powered by an entire pantheon of gods. And
has slowed the fall of eternity under her own strength, and helped lift
the Earth. Again, opposed to sentry who could not lift a helicarrier by
himself.

And bats would probably find a weakness for sentry and pwn him too
if he was in the marvel universe. Thats how bats works. prep.

And as far as all of the others that you named, again, have you heard
of jobbing? Or are you just trying to make character sound weak to put
your own favorite character on a higher level when in fact he is not.

Superman>>>Sentry
How the feats have shown it.

CaptainStoic
Wouldn't Sentry make Superman and Mon-El stronger if he pulled his power of a millions exploding suns stunt on them? I mean he would in turn make them both as powerful as Superman 1 million or at the least as powerful as All Star Superman, if this happened we can say bye bye to Supreme even though it was stated that he was 4 times more powerful than Gladiator (this fight is a conudrum). I vote for team DC on this one. Unless Sentry fights in a more traditional sense, such as toe to toe... but, even then it is not yet a certainty that he and Supreme could take these two out.... this fight may be harder to judge than most may think, as Supreme in his first incarnation was ruthless and blood thirsty willing to do whatever it took to win, even if it meant killing his foe, not to mention that he trounced Images Thor easier than the man of Steel beat Marvels Thor.

5/5 for both teams IMO.

Parallex
I'm now interested in you experienced guys opinion of this now that we have a little better idea of Sentry's power. Supreme is supposed to be beyond PC superman and was coined not a planet mover but a universe mover. Basedon what we know now what would you guys think of such a battle.

Sirius77
Originally posted by carver9
Sentry and supreme>>Superman. Monel is the trump card.

Put together, they would be trouble for superman, but not because of sentry.

Individually, he would wipe his ass with sentry, and struggle, but eventually beat supreme.

Originally posted by carver9
give it to sentry and supreme since sentry hasnt shown a weakness yet and supreme being one of the most powerful versions of supermen (besides King hyperion.).

Since you are the one that said that superman cant go lightspeed and no NOTHING about the character, you would think that...

Sentry does have a weakness. She-tron, helicarriers, cloc, wwh, and ironman.

King Hyperion got his neck snapped by namora, pwned by his own flash vision, and couldnt stop an asteriod.

guy222
http://f.imagehost.org/t/0370/02-03.jpg http://f.imagehost.org/t/0838/12_10.jpg http://f.imagehost.org/t/0634/13_1.jpg http://f.imagehost.org/t/0039/14_6.jpg http://f.imagehost.org/t/0444/15_7.jpg

skyfather
Team 1 ftw, Sentry is lacking here.

Enyalus
...I was under the impression Mon-el was without qualification below Superman physically. If he matches up with Sentry, that's a pretty sweet fight.


And Supreme vs. Superman I give to Supreme, simply via the Black Adam complex.

xJLxKing
T1

Galan007
Team 2.

Original Smurph
Team Uno

Enyalus
Originally posted by Galan007
Team 2.
*high-five*

horrorwolf
Originally posted by Galan007
Team 2.

Warlord
Um...how Sentry was pwned by the collective?
The fight was a stalemate and the Collective was supposed to be the sum of all the mutant's power on earth. Stalemating it is a great feat. Also beating Terrax in seconds and going toe to toe with Genis Vell shows power. He may not be equal to Superman due to lack of control over his powers but certainly Sentry is not a weak link

tkitna
Again, when Superman can wave his hand and bring a person back to life, then i'll admit he's on the Sentry's level. Until then, Superman takes a back seat.

That feat > anything Superman can do

Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.