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Who takes it ?

takion

man of the source

Solar

Far better feats

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Who takes it ?

solar ftw

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Solar

Far better feats

It could go either way, given both their powers, but
feat wise, Solar ftw.

Wait, no, I take that back, Takion held back a blast
that could have destroyed the universe, and Solar
actually destroyed the universe.

So, Takion=Solar.

Originally posted by Sirius77
Wait, no, I take that back, Takion held back a blast
that could have destroyed the universe You realize that blast killed Takion, right?

Originally posted by Galan007
You realize that blast killed Takion, right?
the God wave was superior to Imperiex's power. The Godwave is multiversal in power as it powers every thing in the DCu. including the power of parallax which was multiversal.

These two really can't hurt each other. becuz they are both uber energy wielders. But Takion has Omnicience. he can look at people and know who they are and thier weaknesses. He's also a telepath. So he could **** Solar up for the win knowing his weakness and use his telepathy.

Based upon feats, I'd say Tie. If we judge the absolute top of each one's power.

But solar does have the better feats when it comes to non-battle situations.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
the God wave was superior to Imperiex's power. The Godwave is multiversal in power as it powers every thing in the DCu. including the power of parallax which was multiversal.

These two really can't hurt each other. becuz they are both uber energy wielders. But Takion has Omnicience. he can look at people and know who they are and thier weaknesses. He's also a telepath. So he could **** Solar up for the win knowing his weakness and use his telepathy.

Based upon feats, I'd say Tie. If we judge the absolute top of each one's power.

But solar does have the better feats when it comes to non-battle situations. Solar has FAR better feats, that much isn't even debatable.

And FYI, the strongest TP user in the Image-Verse tried to mess with Solar's mind.... I can post scans of how that turned out if you like.

Originally posted by Galan007
Solar has FAR better feats, that much isn't even debatable.

And FYI, the strongest TP user in the Image-Verse tried to mess with Solar's mind.... I can post scans of how that turned out if you like.

Takion isn't a Tp user like others. He is also Omnicient And has limitless Tp energy. knowing an opponents everything about them makes it much easier to win a battle. It's been well established that this is part of his unique set. Could Solar survive being turned into antimatter?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He is also Omnicient I could post numerous scans demonstrating how incorrect this is.... But that would take WAY too much time...

Bottom line is.... Takion is very far from 'omniscient'.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Could Solar survive being turned into antimatter? He would never be transformed in the first place, so...


It's odd that you couldn't post enough feats for Takion to give him a solid majority against Thanos.... Yet you're trying to argue for him fighting a being of no less than Parallax-esque power now? lol

Takion's definitely got the feats to dominate Thanos.

But Solar? **** no. Solar was stupidly uber. In fact, correct me if I'm wrong Galan, but wasn't one of the things about Solar was that no one in the Imageverse could challenge him because he was too powerful?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Takion's definitely got the feats to dominate Thanos.

But Solar? **** no. Solar was stupidly uber. In fact, correct me if I'm wrong Galan, but wasn't one of the things about Solar was that no one in the Imageverse could challenge him because he was too powerful?
Godwave>>>> Solar. So it's possible that Takion can beat Solar. especially since solar is still a human being who suffers from mental instability. Mind rape for the win.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Takion isn't a Tp user like others. He is also Omnicient And has limitless Tp energy. knowing an opponents everything about them makes it much easier to win a battle. It's been well established that this is part of his unique set. Could Solar survive being turned into antimatter? takion isnt omniscient.

Originally posted by Galan007
I could post numerous scans demonstrating how incorrect this is.... But that would take WAY too much time...

Bottom line is.... Takion is very far from 'omniscient'.

He would never be transformed in the first place, so...


It's odd that you couldn't post enough feats for Takion to give him a solid majority against Thanos.... Yet you're trying to argue for him fighting a being of no less than Parallax-esque power now? lol no one posted a thing when i asked for takion feats. nothing nada.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Takion's definitely got the feats to dominate Thanos.

But Solar? **** no. Solar was stupidly uber. In fact, correct me if I'm wrong Galan, but wasn't one of the things about Solar was that no one in the Imageverse could challenge him because he was too powerful? name the feats please.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
But Solar? **** no. Solar was stupidly uber. In fact, correct me if I'm wrong Galan, but wasn't one of the things about Solar was that no one in the Imageverse could challenge him because he was too powerful? Well Solar is responsible for giving every super-powered being in the Image-Verse their powers --- Anyone whom tried to defeat him was completely unsuccessful.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Godwave>>>> Solar.

Godwave >>>>>>> Takion.

killed him].
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So it's possible that Takion can beat Solar. Based on feats, it's not possible at all.

When Takion destroys/recreates an entire reality, let me know.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
especially since solar is still a human being who suffers from mental instability. Mind rape for the win. Solar was only "mentally unstable" when he first obtained his powers.

Once he learned to control them, even the most powerful telepaths in his reality, couldn't do a thing to his mind.

Solar is the dogs bollocks, the only problem he has is the Darque force. I was looking forward to the visitor stories but then Valient folded after issue two. I hated the Acclaim stories.

Originally posted by Galan007
Well Solar is responsible for giving every super-powered being in the Image-Verse their powers --- Anyone whom tried to defeat him was completely unsuccessful.


Godwave >>>>>>> Takion.

killed him].
Based on feats, it's not possible at all.

When Takion destroys/recreates an entire reality, let me know.
Solar was only "mentally unstable" when he first obtained his powers.

Once he learned to control them, even the most powerful telepaths in his reality, couldn't do a thing to his mind. solar seems pretty badass.

Originally posted by Galan007
--- Anyone whom tried to defeat him was completely unsuccessful.




Master Darque, Solar did not like magic.

Originally posted by Zebedee
Master Darque, Solar did not like magic. Because it was a difficult energy type for him to hone in on at first.

Originally posted by Galan007
Because it was a difficult energy type for him to hone in on at first.

He never really got to grips with Darque or his sister. We shall ignore the Acclaim series as I hated it.

Considering that Solar can turn completely into energy, being made of antimatter wouldn't bother him

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Considering that Solar can turn completely into energy, being made of antimatter wouldn't bother him

What would he do with a midn rape? or being stopped in time?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What would he do with a midn rape? or being stopped in time?

He used to laugh at Toya Harada and Sting both Omega level telepaths. He cab stop time himself. Magic is his big weakness.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What would he do with a midn rape?Won't work, as I've established numerous times now.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
or being stopped in time? Time is Solar's play thing, so that wouldn't help Takion.

Originally posted by Zebedee
Magic is his big weakness. Before people start putting Solar against mediocre magicians, we need to establish a few things...

Magic is a vulnerability of Solar's which can only be exploited by a magic user >> Dr. Strange.

And the main reason it works is because magic is a hard energy signal for Solar to hone in on/control, but he can control it, .

Originally posted by Galan007
Before people start putting Solar against mediocre magicians, we need to establish a few things...

Magic is a vulnerability of Solar's which can only be exploited by a magic user >> Dr. Strange.

And the main reason it works is because magic is a hard energy signal for Solar to hone in on/control, but he can control it, .

So Is Solar more powerful than the Godwave? Becuz so far that is the only thing I know of that can overwhelm Takion.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So Is Solar more powerful than the Godwave? Becuz so far that is the only thing I know of that can overwhelm Takion. So because the GW is all we saw kill/overwhelm Takion, that's the only power that can do it?

How odd then that Takion would compare Lightray's power to his own, on any level... I guess Lightray's power must be close to the GW's, ey?


Bottom line,

Feat-wise, Takion barely has enough to contend with Thanos, let alone Solar.

Solar would crush Takion, however he also didn't get a handle on geomancer energy fully. Although obviously he would crush any geomancer in a fraction of a second.

Originally posted by Galan007
So because the GW is all we saw kill/overwhelm Takion, that's the only power that can do it?

How odd then that Takion would compare Lightray's power to his own, on any level... I guess Lightray's power must be close to the GW's, ey?


Bottom line,

Feat-wise, Takion barely has enough to contend with Thanos, let alone Solar.

Thanos? Zoinks, A near Omnipotent and Omnicient being is barely enough to complete with Thanos? Shall I make a thread and pit Thanos against the flash, Gl, and captain atom? I dont' think he would do well at all. P.S. You are the one who posted new Gods creating universes in thier hands. Isn't light ray one of the most powerful new gods? controlling ALL light energy. He even says so when he's battling Orion. at anyrate, I dont' know exactly what solar could come up with to beat takion. I've never really seen takion be able to be pwned by anyone.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Thanos? Zoinks, A near Omnipotent and Omnicient being is barely enough to complete with Thanos? Shall I make a thread and pit Thanos against the flash, Gl, and captain atom? I dont' think he would do well at all.

Those three would not last a second against full potential Solar. However he was rarely at full potential. The thing is Solar can create copies of himself equal in power. A single "Destroyer" would defeat the JLA.

Originally posted by Zebedee
Those three would not last a second against full potential Solar. However he was rarely at full potential. The thing is Solar can create copies of himself equal in power. A single "Destroyer" would defeat the JLA.

What are you talking about? I was refering to a comment from Galan about takion and Thanos.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Thanos? Zoinks, A near Omnipotent and Omnicient being is barely enough to complete with Thanos? Shall I make a thread and pit Thanos against the flash, Gl, and captain atom? I dont' think he would do well at all. The Thanos comment was just a 'matter of fact point'...

The main thing here is that Takion lacks sufficient feats to even make him a challenge to Solar.

As far as feats go, Takion is Skyfather-level at best --- Solar on the other hand, is..... Well whatever level Zero-Hour Parrallax would be in.

Originally posted by Galan007
The Thanos comment was just a 'matter of fact point'...

The main thing here is that Takion lacks sufficient feats to even make him a challenge to Solar.

As far as feats go, Takion is Skyfather-level at best --- Solar on the other hand, is..... Well whatever level Zero-Hour Parrallax would be in.

And like Parrallax in Zero Hour, Solar has his flaws.

Originally posted by Galan007
The Thanos comment was just a 'matter of fact point'...

The main thing here is that Takion lacks sufficient feats to even make him a challenge to Solar.

As far as feats go, Takion is Skyfather-level at best --- Solar on the other hand, is..... Well whatever level Zero-Hour Parrallax would be in.

Well Solar has two versions. There is the Super Hero Version and the Universal/Multiversal version. at any rate, Takion would count as Entity lvl. He's above skyfather for sure. Highfather was nearly invincible and he noted that Takion was his Superior. But of course solar had series in which to flesh out his powers. Takion is another Cool DC character who's taken a back seat to more Superman and Batman stories.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Well Solar has two versions. There is the Super Hero Version and the Universal/Multiversal version. at any rate, Takion would count as Entity lvl. He's above skyfather for sure. Highfather was nearly invincible and he noted that Takion was his Superior. But of course solar had series in which to flesh out his powers. Takion is another Cool DC character who's taken a back seat to more Superman and Batman stories. Statements aren't feats.

Solar was referred to as "God" numerous times throughout his series, but you don't see me using those statements here, do you?


As far as FEATS go, Solar >>>> Takion. This is unarguable.



Solar ftw.

Originally posted by Galan007
Statements aren't feats.

Solar was referred to as "God" numerous times throughout his series, but you don't see me using those statements here, do you?


As far as FEATS go, Solar >>>> Takion. This is unarguable.



Solar ftw.
I just dont' see how he wins so easily when Takion has access to things that can bother solar. Unlimited mental energy, omnicience. Once takion looks at solar and sees that he's weak to magic, then what? The source powers all the magic in the DCU as well correct? Magical Tp for the win.

Originally posted by Galan007
Statements aren't feats.

Solar was referred to as "God" numerous times throughout his series, but you don't see me using those statements here, do you?


As far as FEATS go, Solar >>>> Takion. This is unarguable.



Solar ftw.

That about sums it up. This thread should b e closed now. Nothing further to debate.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I just dont' see how he wins so easily I've said it a bunch of times now.... Superior feats.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Unlimited mental energy, omnicience. Takion is VERY FAR from omniscient.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Once takion looks at solar and sees that he's weak to magic, then what? Now you have Takion using the most powerful magic that exists, even though he never did so on panel?

Stop giving him feats that he doesn't have.

Originally posted by Galan007
I've said it a bunch of times now.... Superior feats.
Takion is VERY FAR from omniscient.
Now you have Takion using the most powerful magic that exists, even though he never did so on panel?

Stop giving him feats that he doesn't have.

Solar 7/10. More and Better feats. But power sets won't allow him much more. Takion written to full potential WOULD be more than amatch. Since he and the source are one and the same.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Solar 7/10. More and Better feats. But power sets won't allow him much more. Takion written to full potential WOULD be more than amatch. Since he and the source are one and the same. So your argument is based on "would(s)"?


Then it might interest you to know Solar never tapped his full potential either --- Yet he still destroyed/recreated his reality, and made several divergent timelines, could be considered Universes as well]...


In fact,

Someone could say that "written to full potential", Solar's fart alone WOULD destroy Takion...


As funny as it may sound, that line of reasoning would be no more incorrect then your own, .

Originally posted by Galan007
So your argument is based on "would(s)"?


Then it might interest you to know Solar never tapped his full potential either --- Yet he still destroyed/recreated his reality, and made several divergent timelines, could be considered Universes as well]...


In fact,

Someone could say that "written to full potential", Solar's fart alone WOULD destroy Takion...


As funny as it may sound, that line of reasoning would be no more incorrect then your own, .

Hence if both written to full potential, they would be virtually the same being. Except Solar's unlimited power reserves dont' make sense to me. Where does he get so much power? I understand takion as being a human source. At any rate, I'm allowing three wins for takion based upon his omnicience power.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'm allowing three wins for takion based upon his omnicience power. Here you go again adding powers to Takion...

He is not omniscient.

There are numerous scans proving this fact..... Tell me what evidence you think you have to the contrary.

Originally posted by Galan007
Here you go again adding powers to Takion...

He is not omniscient.

There are numerous scans proving this fact..... Tell me what evidence you think you have to the contrary.

He has on more than one occasion just looked at someone and knew who they were, thier weakness ect. And the fact that DC's official Bio says he's omnicient.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He has on more than one occasion just looked at someone and knew who they were, thier weakness ect. That is not omniscience.

Hell, Firestorm can do the same basic thing.. You think he's omniscient?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And the fact that DC's official Bio says he's omnicient. I could care less what a bio says, especially when there is NO panel evidence solidifying that statement.


You've got nothing solid for Takion here.

Originally posted by Galan007
That is not omniscience.

Hell, Firestorm can do the same basic thing.. You think he's omniscient?
I could care less what a bio says, especially when there is NO panel evidence solidifying that statement.


You've got nothing solid for Takion here.

Is Takion not the living Avatar of the source? As I said, There has never been anything shown to even Tax his power except the power of the God wave. So I"m going with the bio and his hi end feats since he lacks appearances.

Solar for the easy win.


Takion has done nothing on Solars level

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Is Takion not the living Avatar of the source?

That's what you're basing your opinions from?

In that case, Solar was referred to as "GOD" several times, so he wins. ( )

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So I"m going with the bio and his hi end feats since he lacks appearances. High end feats?

Takion's done nothing remotely close to destroying/recreating a Universe, and making numerous divergent timelines...


He died trying to hold back the GW --- Anyone could do that. lol

Originally posted by Galan007
He died trying to hold back the GW --- Anyone could do that. lol
Remember what we talked about Galan? I guess Surfer's abstract level right ?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Remember what we talked about Galan? I guess Surfer's abstract level right ? I think of that every time I respond in this thread.

Originally posted by Galan007


That's what you're basing your opinions from?

In that case, Solar was referred to as "GOD" several times, so he wins. ( )

High end feats?

Takion's done nothing remotely close to destroying/recreating a Universe, and making numerous divergent timelines...


He died trying to hold back the GW --- Anyone could do that. lol
Actually He Held it back for a while. Even Shazam couldn't do it. So Anyone?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually He Held it back for a while. Even Shazam couldn't do it. So Anyone? Well if Shazam couldn't do it... ( )


Don't make it more then it was... Takion died trying to slow the GW --- A "high-end" feat? Nah.

Originally posted by Galan007
Well if Shazam couldn't do it... ( )


Don't make it more then it was... Takion died trying to slow the GW --- A "high-end" feat? Nah.

actually He did slow it down. He died from the stress. But he did slow it down. Or everyone would have been destroyed. He gave DS time enough to freeze Ares in his trap. Don't demean the feat just becuz I'm using it to argue for three lil wins.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
actually He did slow it down. He died from the stress. But he did slow it down. Or everyone would have been destroyed. He gave DS time enough to freeze Ares in his trap. Don't demean the feat just becuz I'm using it to argue for three lil wins. There's just no point...


As everyone else has said....

Solar for the easy win.

Originally posted by Galan007
There's just no point...


As everyone else has said....

Solar for the easy win.


I dont know solar, but I'm sure I'm going to investigate his entire history now and find a way to get Takion three lil wins.

Originally posted by Galan007
So your argument is based on "would(s)"?


Then it might interest you to know Solar never tapped his full potential either --- Yet he still destroyed/recreated his reality, and made several divergent timelines, could be considered Universes as well]...


In fact,

Someone could say that "written to full potential", Solar's fart alone WOULD destroy Takion...


As funny as it may sound, that line of reasoning would be no more incorrect then your own, .

coulda shoulda woulda is always a bad point in any debate.

Originally posted by Galan007
There's just no point...


As everyone else has said....

Solar for the easy win. solar seems like he could defeat takion with ease.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl


I dont know solar, but I'm sure I'm going to investigate his entire history now and find a way to get Takion three lil wins. so u admit u dont know solar but have been arguing that takion could defeat him when u admit u dont know who or what he has done.

Solar = Supreme Bad-@$$!