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Fight in an arena. Bloodlust on!

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/6000/5209/23400-savage-dragon_400.jpg vs http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/5000/4563/65516-sabretooth_400.jpg

Anyone who knows these characters have any idea how a fight would turn out?

seems like an interesting fight...

Yes it will be a good fight! but I don't know much about Savage. Creed I know quite a bit. He's a killing machine and born to do it. So I'll say Creed wins because I am bias.

just found this bio (it's hard to find stuff on Savage Dragon online)


Savage Dragon
Real Name: Unknown (not really, but we're avoiding spoilers)

Powers:
The Dragon has vast superhuman strength. His legs are strong enough to enable him to leap a maximum height of 460 feet straight up in the air, and a maximum distance of 945 feet. He is capable of lifting (pressing) approximately 34 tons. He is very nearly impervious to flame. His skin acts like a bullet proof vest; a bullet isn't capable of penetrating it but a sharp knife thrust by a superhuman arm can. Dragon also has an accelerated immune system that can allows his body to regrow any limbs or organs he may happen to lose, which happens often.

http://comicbookdb.com/character.php?ID=1054

Savage wins this

What is savage from? I remeber him from my childhood but i cant remeber from where

A comic?

Originally posted by masterbruce
just found this bio (it's hard to find stuff on Savage Dragon online)


Savage Dragon
Real Name: Unknown (not really, but we're avoiding spoilers)

Powers:
The Dragon has vast superhuman strength. His legs are strong enough to enable him to leap a maximum height of 460 feet straight up in the air, and a maximum distance of 945 feet. He is capable of lifting (pressing) approximately 34 tons. He is very nearly impervious to flame. His skin acts like a bullet proof vest; a bullet isn't capable of penetrating it but a sharp knife thrust by a superhuman arm can. Dragon also has an accelerated immune system that can allows his body to regrow any limbs or organs he may happen to lose, which happens often.

http://comicbookdb.com/character.php?ID=1054

Lets compare.

Powers and Abilities
Powers
Sabretooth is a Beta-Level mutant.

Regenerative Healing Factor: Sabretooth's primary mutant power is an accelerated healing process that enables him to regenerate damaged or destroyed areas of his anatomy with far greater efficiency than an ordinary human. Sabretooth's accelerated healing rate is often referred to as a mutant healing factor. Originally, the speed of Sabretooth's healing factor's was in proportion to the wound's severity; for example, he could fully recover from an ordinary gunshot wound within minutes. However, Sabretooth's healing ability has dramatically increased in recent years due to various procedures. Sabretooth can fully heal from injuries that result in massive tissue damage or loss such as multiple gunshot wounds, slashes, puncture wounds, blunt force trauma, and severe burns within a matter of moments.

Foreign Chemical Immunity: Sabretooth's natural healing also affords him the virtual immunity to poisons and most drugs, as well as an enhanced resistance to diseases. For example, it is virtually impossible for him to become intoxicated.
Superhuman Stamina: Highly resistant to the fatigue toxins generated by his muscles during physical activity. Sabretooth can push himself at peak capacity for several days before fatigue begins to impair him

Superhuman Agility: Sabretooth's agility, balance, and bodily coordination are enhanced to levels beyond the human body's natural limits, even those of the finest human athlete.

Superhuman Reflexes: Sabretooth's reaction time is enhanced to levels that are beyond the human body's natural limits, even those of the finest human athlete

Weather Insulated Adaptation: Sabretooth is able to withstand incredibly cold temperatures without sustaining bodily damage to the extent that he can sleep nude in sub-arctic conditions with no apparent injury.

Retarded Aging: In addition, Sabretooth's healing factor provides him with an extended lifespan by slowing the effects of the aging process. Despite being of an, unknown, advanced age, Sabretooth retains the appearance and vitality of a man in his physical prime.

Superhumanly Acute Senses: Sabretooth's feral mutation provides him superhumanly acute senses, allowing him to see things at a maximum distance greater than a normal human's; his vision even extends into the ultraviolet and infrared areas of the electromagnetic spectrum. His hearing is enhanced in a similar manner, and he is able to recognize people and objects by scent, even if that person or object is hidden. Sabretooth can use these enhanced senses to track any creature with an impressive degree of success.

Claws: Sabretooth has retractable talons in place of fingernails. The claws are naturally sharp and tougher than that of normal human bone structure, allowing Sabretooth to cut through most types of flesh and natural materials. Sabretooth's ability to slice completely through a substance depends on the thickness of the substance and the amount of force he can exert. At times, Sabretooth's claws, along with his skeleton, have been bonded with Adamantium. As a result, his claws were virtually indestructible. The Adamantium further enhanced the already razor sharp edge of Sabretooth's claws and enabled him to slice through almost any surface, with the known exceptions of Adamantium itself and Captain America's shield.


Abilities
Sabretooth is an excellent hand to hand combatant, having been trained by various organizations such as the CIA, Weapon X, the Foreigner, and HYDRA. He is also an expert hunter and tracker, even without the use of his heightened senses. Sabretooth also has developed a high resistance to telepathic probing and manipulation. Although his extreme arrogance gives him the appearance of stupidity, he is actually quite intelligent. He routinely hacks into government databases to steal classified information and has escaped the highest levels of incarceration.


Special Skills: Due to his extensive training Sabretooth is an exceptional hand-to-hand combatant. He is also a trained expert in multiple types of weapons, vehicles, explosives, and assassination techniques.


Strength level
Sabretooth has superhuman strength that has been artificially augmented over the years. Initially, he was physically strong enough to lift about 900 lbs. However, after being captured by his now deceased son, Graydon Creed, his strength was surgically enhanced to the 10 ton level. More recently, the latest incarnation of the Weapon X Program enhanced his strength even further, possibly into the 15 ton range.


Sabertooth destroys savage dragon.

Isn't Savage just a cop? Creed will out fight him all day and all night.

Looks good on paper but Dragon isn't a slouch and he's fast enough to avoid a lot of Creeds attacks. I've read lots of his comics and he can lift more than 35 tons, but just for the sake of argument let's pretend that he could only lift that much, if Dragon hit Creed with one of his more devestating hooks, it would be lights out.

adamantuim bones dont stop concussions

ask wolverine

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Looks good on paper but Dragon isn't a slouch and he's fast enough to avoid a lot of Creeds attacks. I've read lots of his comics and he can lift more than 35 tons, but just for the sake of argument let's pretend that he could only lift that much, if Dragon hit Creed with one of his more devestating hooks, it would be lights out.

The only thing i have to say about this statement is yeah right.

I guess savage dragon is>>wendigo.

Sabertooth would carve savage up. There is nothing savage could do against sabertooth.

Sabertooth is the better fighter by far.
Has enough strength to ko savage dragon.
Has a healing factor that can take almost anything savage can dish out.
Has a adamantium skeleton that can take almost everything that sa can dish out.
Has claws that can rip through savage with relative ease.
Has senses that avoid him from being snuck.
Agile
Superhuman speed.
Superhuman reflexes.

The only thing that savage has on him is strength and that would matter with sabertooth who has taken punches from colossus, wendigo, etc... and bounced back up like nothing happened.

Sabertooth laughs at savage effort and kills him.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
adamantuim bones dont stop concussions

ask wolverine

What is it that you want me to ask wolverine? A guy who has taken punches from hulk, wendigo, warpath, colossus, juggernaut, thor, iron man, sasquash, venom, namor, wonderman, rogue, gladiator, thing, etc...... and bounced back up like nothing happened.

Gecko, I can tell that you have something against wolverine and you have little knowledge about wolverine. Let me help you.

You do know who the hulk is right. You do know that hulk strength is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>savage dragon. Lets look and see what hulk strength does to wolverine. LET THE GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMES BEGIN.
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Wolverine_145_14.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Wolverine_145_15.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Wolverine_145_20.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Wolverine_145_21.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Wolverine_145_22.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Wolverine_145_27.jpg

Do you see hulk picking up this 80 ft tall tree? Lets see what happens.
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Wolverine_145_28.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Wolverine_145_29.jpg

Wolverine looks ok to me. What about you.
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Wolverine_145_31.jpg

Do you see wolverine getting punch into earths core. Lets see what happens next.
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Wolverine_145_32.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Wolverine_145_33.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Wolverine_145_34.jpg

You know nothing of wolverine. Get some knowledge of the character before judging against them. Sabertooth durability is>wolverine. Savage dragon aint doing nothing against sabertooth. Geck, you dont need to vote against wolverine or sabertooth or for them because you have little knowledge of both character, if any. I believe youre basing you knowledge off of the xmen movies that has came out.

Originally posted by carver9
What is it that you want me to ask wolverine? A guy who has taken punches from hulk, wendigo, warpath, colossus, juggernaut, thor, iron man, sasquash, venom, namor, wonderman, rogue, gladiator, thing, etc...... and bounced back up like nothing happened.

Gecko, I can tell that you have something against wolverine and you have little knowledge about wolverine. Let me help you.

You do know who the hulk is right. You do know that hulk strength is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>savage dragon. Lets look and see what hulk strength does to wolverine. LET THE GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMES BEGIN.
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Wolverine_145_14.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Wolverine_145_15.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Wolverine_145_20.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Wolverine_145_21.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Wolverine_145_22.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Wolverine_145_27.jpg

Do you see hulk picking up this 80 ft tall tree? Lets see what happens.
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Wolverine_145_28.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Wolverine_145_29.jpg

Wolverine looks ok to me. What about you.
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Wolverine_145_31.jpg

Do you see wolverine getting punch into earths core. Lets see what happens next.
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Wolverine_145_32.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Wolverine_145_33.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Wolverine_145_34.jpg

You know nothing of wolverine. Get some knowledge of the character before judging against them. Sabertooth durability is>wolverine. Savage dragon aint doing nothing against sabertooth. Geck, you dont need to vote against wolverine or sabertooth or for them because you have little knowledge of both character, if any. I believe youre basing you knowledge off of the xmen movies that has came out.
1. There was no earth's core action going on
2. Then why can sabertooth beat wolverine uncounscience and/or give him a concussion every birthday?

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
1. There was no earth's core action going on
2. Then why can sabertooth beat wolverine uncounscience and/or give him a concussion every birthday?

Because sabertooth has claws that is digging through wolverine. Sabertooth is continously ripping at wolverine. Sabertooth and wolverine usually fight for hours, one time it was clocked as 16 hours and sabertooth knows the right places to hit wolverine.

Let me help you some more. You do know who grey hulk is right, the 90 tonner. Lets see what his strength does.
http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/attachments/040916161417/Logan%20vs%20Fixit0.jpg
http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/attachments/040916161417/Logan%20vs%20Fixit1.jpg
http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/attachments/040916161417/Logan%20vs%20Fixit2.jpg
http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/attachments/040916161417/Logan%20vs%20Fixit3.jpg
http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/attachments/040916161417/Logan%20vs%20Fixit4.jpg
http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/attachments/040916161417/Logan%20vs%20Fixit5.jpg
http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/attachments/040916161417/Logan%20vs%20Fixit6.jpg


You do know sasquash, the 100 tonner. Lets see how wolverine takes punches from him.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sinister_samurai/Wolverine/691ae1c0.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sinister_samurai/Wolverine/3ec38d2c.jpg

He looked ok to me. How many scans do i have to put up for you to understand wolverines durability. If you want me to put up more, I can.

grey hulk is 75 tons

savage is 90 tons

and all pics are dead

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
grey hulk is 75 tons

savage is 90 tons

and all pics are dead

By marvel own words and in marvel encyclopedia, it is stated that grey hulk is as strong as thing and thing during that time was a 85 tonner. BY the way here is the fight for you to see. Youll have to click on each picture to bring it up bigger.
http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/view.php?trd=040916161417

Originally posted by carver9
By marvel own words and in marvel encyclopedia, it is stated that grey hulk is as strong as thing and thing during that time was a 85 tonner. BY the way here is the fight for you to see. Youll have to click on each picture to bring it up bigger.
http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/view.php?trd=040916161417

marvel says alot of wrong shit.
wouldnt be the first time

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
marvel says alot of wrong shit.
wouldnt be the first time


Well you want it to be wrong just to prove a point. On panel shows grey hulk as being just as strong if not stronger than the thing. He also has that rage ability, the madder he gets the stronger he gets. He is class 85 - 90.

I have shown you 3 scans of wolverine taking class 85 - 100. Do i need to show you more just to prove that he can take heavy hitters punches. I can put up some wendigo fights if you want.

savage dragon wins, he has the strength edge and thats the deciding factor, both hf are great, savage dragon 6/10

Originally posted by carver9
Because sabertooth has claws that is digging through wolverine. Sabertooth is continously ripping at wolverine. Sabertooth and wolverine usually fight for hours, one time it was clocked as 16 hours and sabertooth knows the right places to hit wolverine.

Let me help you some more. You do know who grey hulk is right, the 90 tonner. Lets see what his strength does.
http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/attachments/040916161417/Logan%20vs%20Fixit0.jpg
http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/attachments/040916161417/Logan%20vs%20Fixit1.jpg
http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/attachments/040916161417/Logan%20vs%20Fixit2.jpg
http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/attachments/040916161417/Logan%20vs%20Fixit3.jpg
http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/attachments/040916161417/Logan%20vs%20Fixit4.jpg
http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/attachments/040916161417/Logan%20vs%20Fixit5.jpg
http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/attachments/040916161417/Logan%20vs%20Fixit6.jpg


You do know sasquash, the 100 tonner. Lets see how wolverine takes punches from him.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sinister_samurai/Wolverine/691ae1c0.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sinister_samurai/Wolverine/3ec38d2c.jpg

He looked ok to me. How many scans do i have to put up for you to understand wolverines durability. If you want me to put up more, I can.

Those are nice, but can you show us the scans from when a deer kicked Wolverine and put him down?

Dragon 6/10

I think Dragon's HF is strong enough for him to top creed out...

Creed with Adamantium could probably do the trick.. but as he is he won't be pulling the majority in my opinion.

Originally posted by tkitna
Those are nice, but can you show us the scans from when a deer kicked Wolverine and put him down?

Dragon 6/10
funny one would say that.......the deer never KO him if you read the issue you would know this

Originally posted by Battlehammer
funny one would say that.......the deer never KO him if you read the issue you would know this

I know BH, but you cant blame me for trying.

Originally posted by tkitna
I know BH, but you cant blame me for trying.
lol true

This should be a very good fight their both pretty even in every field except strength which goes to SD and over all experience which may got to sabertooth do to his age but dragon's HF is very much like sabertooth and there is alot still not known about dragon like how old he really is. I know he used to be some alien war lord before he was dumped on earth but he could be well over 1000 years old for all we know. i can see this lasting days or weeks

bump

What a stupid thread.

Dragon takes punch from class hundreds. Is about 65 tons or so . the writer and creator says so and heals awesomely.

He wins.

Check under my sig for his thread.

Adamantium sabertooth kills dragon and rip that fin off of his head. Bone claws sabertooth loses but goes down fighting.

Adamantium 7/10
Bone 3/10

Gecko is a wolverine hater and knows nothing of wolverine durability or healing factor.

Gecko, argue at the wolverine writers for making him take 100+ punches and bounce back up, dont argue with me.

Originally posted by Switch 07
What a stupid thread.

Dragon takes punch from class hundreds. Is about 65 tons or so . the writer and creator says so and heals awesomely.

He wins.

Check under my sig for his thread. Does he have "65" ton feats though?

And Sabes has gone toe to toe with that strong people before. Stronger, iirc.

Not saying Creed wins, but this isn't a stupid thread at all.

Originally posted by SpookySmurph
Does he have "65" ton feats though? Writer/creator interview.

It holds as much merit as Stan Lee saying he would write Hulk beating Superman.

*more directed at other guy*

Originally posted by Bransolute
Writer/creator interview.

It holds as much merit as Stan Lee saying he would write Hulk beating Superman.

*more directed at other guy* Yeah, I was gonna mention that.

Sabertooth 7/10

Originally posted by SpookySmurph
Does he have "65" ton feats though?

And Sabes has gone toe to toe with that strong people before. Stronger, iirc.

Not saying Creed wins, but this isn't a stupid thread at all.

I am sure he has. Maybe more if I remember.

But there is nothing ST can really do to Dragon. His HF can take anything ST gives him.

Carver =

Originally posted by Switch 07
I am sure he has. Maybe more if I remember.

But there is nothing ST can really do to Dragon. His HF can take anything ST gives him.

Carver =

not really. sabertooth healing factor>>>>>>>savage dragons.


savage dragon been taken down by a lot less then what sabertooth is able to bring at him.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
not really. sabertooth healing factor>>>>>>>savage dragons.


savage dragon been taken down by a lot less then what sabertooth is able to bring at him. Proof of this that he has been taken down.

And lets see how good his HF is.

But when did I say Dragons HF is better. I said Dragon can take anything he hit him with but Dragon can beat ST.

Originally posted by Switch 07
Proof of this that he has been taken down.

And lets see how good his HF is.

But when did I say Dragons HF is better. I said Dragon can take anything he hit him with but Dragon can beat ST.


your logic is skrewed.


If sabertooth can take Logna out who has a better healing factor then dragons, then why would he be unable to take dragon out?


why can dragon beat ST? I mean ST has litterlly slugged it out with individuals hit for hit who were as strong as dragon.


............still trying to see how your opinion makes sense.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
your logic is skrewed.


If sabertooth can take Logna out who has a better healing factor then dragons, then why would he be unable to take dragon out?


why can dragon beat ST? I mean ST has litterlly slugged it out with individuals hit for hit who were as strong as dragon.


............still trying to see how your opinion makes sense.

Wait Saberooth can take out Wolverine but Spiderman can't?

Anyway I don't understand what is the difference between Adam claws and his normal claws. (Sabers that is) I mean as long as they can cut say Spiderman where would be the difference. Why Hammer?

Originally posted by Switch 07
Wait Saberooth can take out Wolverine but Spiderman can't?

Anyway I don't understand what is the difference between Adam claws and his normal claws. (Sabers that is) I mean as long as they can cut say Spiderman where would be the difference. Why Hammer?


what does spiderman have to do with this thread?


also sabertooth would take spiderman the majority.


spidermans abilities are nothing like sabertooths.

again were not talking about spiderman.

adamtium claws make sabertooth do a lot more damage with little effort. They also make him hella more durable

Originally posted by Battlehammer
what does spiderman have to do with this thread?


also sabertooth would take spiderman the majority.


spidermans abilities are nothing like sabertooths.

again were not talking about spiderman.

adamtium claws make sabertooth do a lot more damage with little effort. They also make him hella more durable How does bones in the body make someone more durable. You mean able to take more pain right or something like that?

Originally posted by Switch 07
How does bones in the body make someone more durable. You mean able to take more pain right or something like that?

is your bones are unbreakable your a hell of a lot more harder to hurt. All sabertooth would have to heal is muscle damage if his bones can't be broken. Now say if he had bone claws his, but much more vulnerable to bones beeing broken.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
is your bones are unbreakable your a hell of a lot more harder to hurt. All sabertooth would have to heal is muscle damage if his bones can't be broken. Now say if he had bone claws his, but much more vulnerable to bones beeing broken. Cool beans.

Originally posted by Battlehammer


also sabertooth would take spiderman the majority.

ummm no.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
ummm no. Respond to my PM's Master Tool.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
ummm no.

um yes.

Originally posted by Switch 07
Respond to my PM's Master Tool. Originally posted by Master-Borg
ummm no.

Originally posted by Bransolute
Yep no reply.

Tool.

I don't think current (No adamantium Sabes) could take Dragon.
Btw, why are people using Wolverine's feats? Sabretooth might be quite similar to Wolverine, but they're still different characters.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
um yes.

I haven't read anything to do with Savage Dragon since 96-97 but my general rule of thumb is Wolverine and Sabretooth > Melee Bricks with High Durability but Melee bricks with Healing Factors > Wolverine and Sabretooth.

Officer Dragon takes Creed out. Too damn strong and durable.
In one comic, I have seen him have his hand blown off, a massive hole blown through his stomach which shot him out of a 40+ story window. Dragon is then impaled on a spire, throughout which he remains consious, albeit very near fainting. He used his good hand to lift himself off of the spire, then take another fall. Soon after, with hole blown and riped wider by a spire through his chest, Dragon beat the shit out of two superfreak villains. Hellrazor, and Cutthroat.