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Well here we are, the first Battle Zone fight. I'll ask all non participants to refrain from posting in this thread because this is a solo debate between TricksterPriest and myself. This is a non-official, standard match where TricksterPriest will represent classic Darkseid, and I'll be representing classic Thanos. Here are some of the specific details of the match...


Darkseid-Trickster is allowed to use all of DS's printed Pre Seven Soldiers arc(no Seven Soldiers showings though) because technically there's only one Darkseid in DC. The only limitation to this, is alternate versions of DS from future timelines(such as the GDS) as per Forum Rules.

Thanos-I will be allowed to use all of Thanos's canon appearances, including the showings of Thanos's LOW LEVEL clones. When I say low level I mean the "standard" Thanos clones that are often mistaken for him, but not clones like Omega or X which are DNA amalgams of Thanos and another character.



Now here's where it gets tricky because rather than just try to convince the judges that our characters would win the majority in a fight between the two, Trickster and I have a some special victory conditions for this fight. Trickster's goal is to convince the judges that Darkseid is completely out of Thanos's league, and that Darkseid would beat Thanos in a forum match 10/10. My goal on the other hand is to show that the two are closer in power than most are willing to give Thanos credit for, and convince the judges that Thanos could win at least one match out of 10 between the two. So it's basically an "all or nothing" affair, because in the end it comes down to whether or not it's POSSIBLE for Thanos to win.



With all that being said, since most are regarding Trick as being the underdog in this match I'll let him present his case first(and the time of his first post will mark the beginning of the 24 hour time limit)...

(Just FYI even though I included a poll, it won't be taken into consideration as far as the match winner goes(because of possible sock interference). I'm only including it so people can put their two cents in without having to spam the match. But I'll still ask people to refrain from voting at least until we get a chance to present our initial arguments.)

Hey Trick, you DO realize that this is a standard match, not a tourney style match right? You don't have to come up with a big opening post or anything, this is basically a regular debate. The only differences are that we won't have people butting in, and an actual "winner" will be decided. So you can start saying why you think DS takes 10/10 whenever you're ready...

It's showtime.

Ikuze. (Let's go).


First off, Darkseid is generally underrated on this forum. People tend to compare him to Thanos, when in reality, he's around Odin's level, if not greater.

Let's start with a few feats.

The text is a little hard to read, for which I apologize.

DS desintegrates a PC Daxamite, beings who are equal to PC Supes under a yellow sun.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid101/p6a9d963c9bf1d453cc02e8f39e19024d/f9db7939.jpg

PC Validus, a beast beyond beasts in PC days. This monster was so powerful, it took 4 PC krytonians to bring him down. On occasions where his rage was focused, even the LSH had trouble with him. Even Karate Kid, PIS machine, couldn't stop him and barely dodged the mental lightning.

And Darkseid not only created this monster, he depowered him back to his original form.....a child.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid101/pbfc5f1f8c8863de17f2156405dc7b135/f9db793f.jpg

Here during Our Worlds At War, Darkseid brings down Superman with 3 punches.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid66/pd55a9f60974c3f94b66f685071686e58/fbdd8646.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid66/p7c18e8b452cb9333381c18e72b82bc42/fbdd81d1.jpg

Supes sneak attacks DS afterwards,
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid66/pdf9c7a376b78e746826b570a7b3a99e8/fbdd81cc.jpg

and barely escapes with his life. Incidently, the only reason Supes got away from the OE in that last panel was because he used the Entropy Aegis as a shield.

The Aegis was created by Darkseid, using an Imperiex probe, Apokolips tech, and the power of Entropy. Via the probe, it could tap all of Imperiex's power.

Which is a prep feat for DS.

Sleez, a native of Apokolips, explains how the OE's teleportation works. "For an instant that seemed an eternity, I was less than nothing. But I was not destroyed. Instead, I found myself transported":
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid100/pce7d0f5ccc835ec0b5669b7116a2157c/f9e5b5a6.jpg


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid66/p9f627007d0fbf767d03fe85d5eb35215/fbdcf0b0.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid66/p36af0f7dd1efd4d1525a9a7dc7032a95/fbdcf0a7.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid66/p1260ca80efdcb9df766f17c629e64be3/fbdcf0a1.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid69/p0b323b6d260d5240ce6ccc8489683989/fba9cc1e.jpg

Lightray&Orion get blinked out as well.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid101/p420f23dc512e00aaf1ed2c191cc9dcb7/f9d5abec.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid101/pcb2d283b8394cdd3f980c92f284aea85/f9d5d6b1.jpg

Before I post this next one, I'm going to give a little context. In this next part, Darkseid *****-slaps the Infinity Man. Now, Infinity man is easily a match for Thanos. Part of that, is because he's Darkseid's own brother, Drax. Drax was the originally destined to harness the power of the Infinity Pit, where Uxas received his Omega Force and took his nom-de-guer, after killing his brother supposedly. Drax was given the powers of the Infinity Man and could be summoned by the Forever People.

Anyways, Darkseid traps Drax into a pocket dimension and imposes a barrier around a planet to trap him there. He got out eventually thanks to the Forever People.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid100/pc086560f5f6ca9b50bbe8fd46127b1ff/f9e65927.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid100/p76eabd5cf26449412ba384ea7f6b724f/f9e658f8.jpg


In this part, Supes is having trouble fighting Darkseid's automatons. So, the Forever People summon forth Infinity Man again. Infinity Man has a much easier time against the droids, but gets whupped by DS again, and mentions that he cannot resist the Omega Effect.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid100/p3e5239a16e3a11b11b821a33d59c50c4/f9e5bc88.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid100/p78d32187df811edaec83ffe56c0c6705/f9e6595c.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid100/p958c3ce421aefd18b0921979c879c9a9/f9e5c199.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid71/pf8b15788332d2d322ae1778db2acb87c/fb9b7268.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid71/p08b4c6dc1696e358251d45407feb6197/fb9b7264.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid100/p62fb8e9815e4f1bc38ce8e9424fb34b0/f9e5c182.jpg


And with this, I cast down the gauntlet. Have at thee, Goober. duel

i'm aware this isn't a tourney style match. I just wanted a good opening salvo. 2nd, I had step out for a bit, which is why this took so long.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
It's showtime.

Ikuze. (Let's go).

Bring it .
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
First off, Darkseid is generally underrated on this forum. People tend to compare him to Thanos, when in reality, he's around Odin's level, if not greater.

Let's start with a few feats.

The text is a little hard to read, for which I apologize.

DS desintegrates a PC Daxamite, beings who are equal to PC Supes under a yellow sun.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid101/p6a9d963c9bf1d453cc02e8f39e19024d/f9db7939.jpg
Ok, now show me the feats that actually put that guy at PC Supes level beyond being a "PC Daxamite".

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
PC Validus, a beast beyond beasts in PC days. This monster was so powerful, it took 4 PC krytonians to bring him down. On occasions where his rage was focused, even the LSH had trouble with him. Even Karate Kid, PIS machine, couldn't stop him and barely dodged the mental lightning.

And Darkseid not only created this monster, he depowered him back to his original form.....a child.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid101/pbfc5f1f8c8863de17f2156405dc7b135/f9db793f.jpg
Validus was definitely a beast, but what does that have to do with DS? I know that DS created Validus, but when you think about it that doesn't necessarily mean a whole Hell of a lot. Galactus can create heralds that are faster than he, so why are you so convinced that DS HAS to be as strong/durable as Validus was, when he doesn't really have the feats to support it?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Here during Our Worlds At War, Darkseid brings down Superman with 3 punches.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid66/pd55a9f60974c3f94b66f685071686e58/fbdd8646.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid66/p7c18e8b452cb9333381c18e72b82bc42/fbdd81d1.jpg

Supes sneak attacks DS afterwards,
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid66/pdf9c7a376b78e746826b570a7b3a99e8/fbdd81cc.jpg
and barely escapes with his life. Incidently, the only reason Supes got away from the OE in that last panel was because he used the Entropy Aegis as a shield.
Didn't Supes just finish fighting a bunch of Imperiex Probes and New Gods when that happened?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The Aegis was created by Darkseid, using an Imperiex probe, Apokolips tech, and the power of Entropy. Via the probe, it could tap all of Imperiex's power.

Which is a prep feat for DS.

You and I both know that you don't want to get into a "prep showings" comparison when Thanos is involved .



Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Sleez, a native of Apokolips, explains how the OE's teleportation works. "For an instant that seemed an eternity, I was less than nothing. But I was not destroyed. Instead, I found myself transported":
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid100/pce7d0f5ccc835ec0b5669b7116a2157c/f9e5b5a6.jpg


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid66/p9f627007d0fbf767d03fe85d5eb35215/fbdcf0b0.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid66/p36af0f7dd1efd4d1525a9a7dc7032a95/fbdcf0a7.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid66/p1260ca80efdcb9df766f17c629e64be3/fbdcf0a1.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid69/p0b323b6d260d5240ce6ccc8489683989/fba9cc1e.jpg

Lightray&Orion get blinked out as well.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid101/p420f23dc512e00aaf1ed2c191cc9dcb7/f9d5abec.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid101/pcb2d283b8394cdd3f980c92f284aea85/f9d5d6b1.jpg

I fail to see what a bunch of scans about DS teleporting people has to do with this. If he teleports Thanos, Thanos will teleport back.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Before I post this next one, I'm going to give a little context. In this next part, Darkseid *****-slaps the Infinity Man. Now, Infinity man is easily a match for Thanos. Part of that, is because he's Darkseid's own brother, Drax. Drax was the originally destined to harness the power of the Infinity Pit, where Uxas received his Omega Force and took his nom-de-guer, after killing his brother supposedly. Drax was given the powers of the Infinity Man and could be summoned by the Forever People.

Anyways, Darkseid traps Drax into a pocket dimension and imposes a barrier around a planet to trap him there. He got out eventually thanks to the Forever People.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid100/pc086560f5f6ca9b50bbe8fd46127b1ff/f9e65927.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid100/p76eabd5cf26449412ba384ea7f6b724f/f9e658f8.jpg


In this part, Supes is having trouble fighting Darkseid's automatons. So, the Forever People summon forth Infinity Man again. Infinity Man has a much easier time against the droids, but gets whupped by DS again, and mentions that he cannot resist the Omega Effect.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid100/p3e5239a16e3a11b11b821a33d59c50c4/f9e5bc88.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid100/p78d32187df811edaec83ffe56c0c6705/f9e6595c.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid100/p958c3ce421aefd18b0921979c879c9a9/f9e5c199.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid71/pf8b15788332d2d322ae1778db2acb87c/fb9b7268.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid71/p08b4c6dc1696e358251d45407feb6197/fb9b7264.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid100/p62fb8e9815e4f1bc38ce8e9424fb34b0/f9e5c182.jpg
Again, it's just teleporting. Thor can teleport Juggernaut and the Destroyer with ease, so does that automatically mean that he can deliver an actual beatdown to them?

I wasn't saying he's as strong or durable as Validus. Just that he's powerful enough to beat Validus, Thanos isn't.

Wrong fight. that was later on.

The heart doesn't count, and all the things he did in the IG saga are easily duplicatible by DS. Let's see Thanos stop Ares w/e the Godwave with his prep time.

The OE's teleportation involves being erased first. IE: They survived it only by Darkseid's discretion. I posted those scans to explain how the teleportation by the OE works. You get erased, then reformed elsewhere.
http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f9e5b5a6jpgorig7xv.jpg

http://img435.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vaporizes8cb.jpg



Let's go over those showings.

1 was retconned. That was Desaad.
http://img506.imageshack.us/my.php?image=retcon9ha.jpg
2 was inconclusive and from S/B, a dubious source.

3 was when Darkseid was weakened from using his power to boost Supes who broke Imperiex's armor. He still stalemated Superman.

4 was Apokolips Now. Apokolips Now was just a bad showing, and despite the craptacular writing, I can't say anything against it.

5 was S/B and had many extenuating circumstances. First, Wondy deflected the OB back at Darkseid. Second, Supes had a sun-amp. Third, Supes had a motherbox. and 4th, Jeph Loeb was writing.

2nd, you'll find that the only times Darkseid loses to a top tier that badly are to Superman. No other top tier gets anywhere near as much as Supes. You're refusing to acknowledge his massive jobber aura. you're also using characterizations from H/P, written by Dan Jurgens, a man who has no concept of Darkseid's character.



1. Infinity Man, Blasphemy, Secret, Aggog, Lobo

Secret.
http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=youngjustice37115hk.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=youngjustice37128ty.jpg

The barrier holding IM prisoner.
http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=foreverpeople011080nw.jpg

Blasfemy
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid71/pd3da497dec8d1e77e1fbc60db204a16b/fb9772a1.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid71/p0185292573d8698f5c2b3ef2cb8d5552/fb97729c.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid71/pe6a9fd1a531e2181465df7036ec14505/fb977295.jpg

Despite this, a DS avatar walks up to Blasphemy, and fries him point-blank.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid71/pfb700d0239af41ae30c19a0dca247350/fb977017.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid71/p9d8f230eac94b9c36a1673697f858e4c/fb977015.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid71/p7bb7be6db6fd90b6a730a10ccfe514bf/fb977010.jpg

Aggog beats on Orion&Lightray.
http://img462.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fbd4f360jpgorig7he.jpg
http://img462.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fbd4f35bjpgorig3xv.jpg
http://img462.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fbd4f358jpgorig5jd.jpg
http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fbd4edd6jpgorig1xt.jpg
http://img462.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fbd4edd4jpgorig6ni.jpg
http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fbd4f8d0jpgorig2fk.jpg

Here's what happens when DS tries it.
http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fbd4f8d3jpgorig9mc.jpg

In Lobo's own book, he gets owned by DS. He only survived due to a bizarre timewarp. Lobo, supposedly unkillable, was almost killed by DS.
http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=darkseidlobo15qu2fo.jpg
http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fbbed877jpgorig8ta.jpg

2. Supes was covered, and you forgot the jobber aura. Wondy's shield blocks just about anything. Firestorm is the only person in the history of DC to manipulate the Omega Force. Darkseid let Raker live.

Here's the fight, which is interrupted by the Guardians.
http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fb5081e4jpgorig4do.jpg
http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fb5081cbjpgorig9nm.jpg

Darkseid choses to accept a truce with the Guardians, on the condition that he gets Raker. the Guardians, not wanting to pick a fight, agree.
http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fb505ce1jpgorig3vm.jpg
http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fb505cd9jpgorig2mh.jpg

That shovel must have been pretty uber, considering what DS does to Raker's power battery.
http://img447.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gl80pggnt309nastynat5mp.jpg
Guess that was a cosmic shovel, eh?

This orange girl was sparring with Raker and doing pretty well. DS snapped her neck. And btw, the corp was decimated when they tried to attack Apokolips, the guardians sued for peace.
http://img447.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gl80pggnt345nastynat5ed.jpg
http://img447.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gl80pggnt353nastynat6jx.jpg
http://img447.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gl80pggnt354nastynat6ey.jpg

Darkseid himself reveals that he let Raker live.
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lantern7uj.jpg
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lantern12bl.jpg

3. The god damn Black Racer doesn't know where victims of the wipeout effect go. http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fba997dbjpgorig1ek.jpg It's not a teleport, it's a wipeout.

The OE goes through everything except it's target.
http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ds2uv.jpg
http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ds11qm.jpg

Speedblitzes Supes.
http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ds24wi.jpg

Uses the Omega Beams on Dregs (Zombie Old Gods)
http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f9d5ea75jpgorig6dw.jpg


And don't bring Nvr's reasoning into this. It's a crossover, thus, not canon. And even it wasn't, it's freaking Galactus. Note the illustration of the OE affecting DS. It did work, Galactus just willed himself back. The white silhouette is the OE's effect on a being, as has been depicted for years.


Proof that DS killed pantheons.
http://img307.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jkfw03185mr.jpg
http://img326.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jkfw04151ls.jpg



That's enough for now.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I wasn't saying he's as strong or durable as Validus. Just that he's powerful enough to beat Validus, Thanos isn't.
I think a more accurate statement would be that DS has the ability to take back power that he bestows upon people. And before you make the unfounded claim that Thanos couldn't take down Validus, you should show his resistance to the things in Thanos's arsenal(like mind raping, life absorbtion, etc).

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Wrong fight. that was later on.
Huh?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The heart doesn't count, and all the things he did in the IG saga are easily duplicatible by DS. Let's see Thanos stop Ares w/e the Godwave with his prep time.
Why doesn't the End count? And for that matter, I didn't mention anything from the End OR the IG saga. All I mentioned was that Thanos was upgraded after the End, and he was(as acknowledged by the Thanos series, and his superior feats after that arc).

As for Ares w/Godwave...

rotfl

Thanos has PERSONALLY aquired multiversal power given prep, which is far supperior to just stalling someone like Ares.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The OE's teleportation involves being erased first. IE: They survived it only by Darkseid's discretion. I posted those scans to explain how the teleportation by the OE works. You get erased, then reformed elsewhere.
http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f9e5b5a6jpgorig7xv.jpg

http://img435.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vaporizes8cb.jpg
PROVE that he's actually able to erase everyone that he teleports. Just because someone thinks it "feels" like they don't exist anymore, that doesn't mean that they were temorarily erased(it could be the comic book equivelnt to motion sickness for all we know). I actually started asking around about that little "forum rumor" and you know what I found out...

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
It's the exact same function. Erasing them just leaves out the last step.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Where and when was that established?

Originally posted by Desaad
It never has been, explicitly.

Long ago, a poster named Jimmy hyper-analyzed a quote from a New God named Sleez that, to some degree, indicated that when he was teleported he was wiped out for a second.

It could just as easily been Byrne's poetic side coming through, though.


I suspect its become something of an internet myth as Jimmy's Darkseid Respect Thread makes specific mention of this theory and has been circulating for a while now.

It's all fan based speculatory interpretation of a SINGLE instance. So what actual PROOF do you have to support that theory?





Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Let's go over those showings.
Ok.
1 was retconned. That was Desaad.
http://img506.imageshack.us/my.php?image=retcon9ha.jpg

Ok I saw DS talking to Desaad about impersonating him, but I never saw him mention that fight in particular. I DID see a single panel of Supes fighting DS that COULD be this particular fight, but I saw nothing concrete to that effect.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
2 was inconclusive and from S/B, a dubious source.
Inconclusive my ass. If you count DS teleporting his opponents away as wins in DS's favor, then that instance qualifies as a BFR in Supes favor.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
3 was when Darkseid was weakened from using his power to boost Supes who broke Imperiex's armor. He still stalemated Superman.
So Supes obviously wasn't in tip top condition either, since he'd been battling Imperiex right? So they were both weakened, and came out about even in their fight together. Still not looking good for DS...

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
4 was Apokolips Now. Apokolips Now was just a bad showing, and despite the craptacular writing, I can't say anything against it.
Good to hear you admit.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
5 was S/B and had many extenuating circumstances. First, Wondy deflected the OB back at Darkseid. Second, Supes had a sun-amp. Third, Supes had a motherbox. and 4th, Jeph Loeb was writing. Don't most people have to fight through DS's armies and such before they get face to face with DS(I know for a fact Supes has several times)? Does that mean that we write off DS getting the best of those people because of the "extenuating circumstances"?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
2nd, you'll find that the only times Darkseid loses to a top tier that badly are to Superman. No other top tier gets anywhere near as much as Supes. You're refusing to acknowledge his massive jobber aura. you're also using characterizations from H/P, written by Dan Jurgens, a man who has no concept of Darkseid's character.
You said it yourself "that badly". Supes does better than most, but then again he's one of the biggest guns in DC. Of course someone like Ryker isn't going to do as well as Supes, because Supes would kick Ryker's ass.



Cont. on next post...

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
1. Infinity Man, Blasphemy, Secret, Aggog, Lobo

Secret.
http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=youngjustice37115hk.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=youngjustice37128ty.jpg

The barrier holding IM prisoner.
http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=foreverpeople011080nw.jpg

Blasfemy
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid71/pd3da497dec8d1e77e1fbc60db204a16b/fb9772a1.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid71/p0185292573d8698f5c2b3ef2cb8d5552/fb97729c.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid71/pe6a9fd1a531e2181465df7036ec14505/fb977295.jpg

Despite this, a DS avatar walks up to Blasphemy, and fries him point-blank.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid71/pfb700d0239af41ae30c19a0dca247350/fb977017.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid71/p9d8f230eac94b9c36a1673697f858e4c/fb977015.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid71/p7bb7be6db6fd90b6a730a10ccfe514bf/fb977010.jpg

Aggog beats on Orion&Lightray.
http://img462.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fbd4f360jpgorig7he.jpg
http://img462.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fbd4f35bjpgorig3xv.jpg
http://img462.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fbd4f358jpgorig5jd.jpg
http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fbd4edd6jpgorig1xt.jpg
http://img462.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fbd4edd4jpgorig6ni.jpg
http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fbd4f8d0jpgorig2fk.jpg

Here's what happens when DS tries it.
http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fbd4f8d3jpgorig9mc.jpg

In Lobo's own book, he gets owned by DS. He only survived due to a bizarre timewarp. Lobo, supposedly unkillable, was almost killed by DS.
http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=darkseidlobo15qu2fo.jpg
http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fbbed877jpgorig8ta.jpg
Yeah....now where are the durability showings that put them on par with Supes?

And just so you know, yes Lobo is supposed to be unkillable but the thing is that Lobo regenerates, while Supes just resist damage. Lobo DOES have impressive durability no doubt, but he gets hurt A LOT more than Supes(he just heals the damage he's taken).

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
2. Supes was covered, and you forgot the jobber aura. Wondy's shield blocks just about anything. Firestorm is the only person in the history of DC to manipulate the Omega Force. Darkseid let Raker live.

Here's the fight, which is interrupted by the Guardians.
http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fb5081e4jpgorig4do.jpg
http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fb5081cbjpgorig9nm.jpg

Darkseid choses to accept a truce with the Guardians, on the condition that he gets Raker. the Guardians, not wanting to pick a fight, agree.
http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fb505ce1jpgorig3vm.jpg
http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fb505cd9jpgorig2mh.jpg

That shovel must have been pretty uber, considering what DS does to Raker's power battery.
http://img447.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gl80pggnt309nastynat5mp.jpg
Guess that was a cosmic shovel, eh?

This orange girl was sparring with Raker and doing pretty well. DS snapped her neck. And btw, the corp was decimated when they tried to attack Apokolips, the guardians sued for peace.
http://img447.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gl80pggnt345nastynat5ed.jpg
http://img447.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gl80pggnt353nastynat6jx.jpg
http://img447.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gl80pggnt354nastynat6ey.jpg

Darkseid himself reveals that he let Raker live.
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lantern7uj.jpg
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lantern12bl.jpg
So DS's statement makes it factual? Villains say that kind of thing all the time Trick, are we supposed to take EVERYTHING the villain says at face value?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
3. The god damn Black Racer doesn't know where victims of the wipeout effect go. http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fba997dbjpgorig1ek.jpg It's not a teleport, it's a wipeout.
Isn't that from the Rock of Ages, which takes place in the future? And for that matter, isn't that the same arc that DS got beaten by the Atom?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The OE goes through everything except it's target.
http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ds2uv.jpg
http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ds11qm.jpg
Don't you mean its target, WW's braclets, heatvision, and the force field Ryker slapped over DS's head? Do you have any scans of it bypassing a forcefield that's capable of withstanding a blast from someone like Galactus? Anyway, I'm not even trying to say that Thanos will dodge the OE, I'm just not convinced it'll take him out. We're talking about someone who...

A. Has a forcefield tough enough that Galactus has to exert himself to bust through.
B. Has arguably the best durability in comics.
C. Is completely barred from Deaths Realm, which makes him immortal for all intents and purposes.
D. Has energy blast FAR supperior to Heatvision(which has deflected the OE before).

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Speedblitzes Supes.
http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ds24wi.jpg
Byrne's Supes you mean(who later goes on to kick DS's ass in fact). Thanos can deal with the speed of guys like Surfer and the Fallen One, both of which surpass Byrne's Supes in speed.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Uses the Omega Beams on Dregs (Zombie Old Gods)
http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f9d5ea75jpgorig6dw.jpg
You act as if DS owning some random "Gods"(and DEAD Gods at that) really means something or is something beyond the capabilities of Thanos...
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/8282/warlock2516mf2.th.jpg


Originally posted by TricksterPriest
And don't bring Nvr's reasoning into this. It's a crossover, thus, not canon. And even it wasn't, it's freaking Galactus. Note the illustration of the OE affecting DS. It did work, Galactus just willed himself back. The white silhouette is the OE's effect on a being, as has been depicted for years.
It's not just nvr's reasoning. You yourself have been a fan of the "only one DS" theory which means it's your reasoning too. And prove that it had an effect. That's never stated in any way, shape, or form. The only POSSIBLE indication is the color scheme, which is reaching to say the very least. On the other hand, there's no denying the effect that Thanos's blast had on Big G. And just so it stays in everyone's mind, Big G was HUNGRY(more than he'd ever been in fact) when DS hit him. He was pretty well fed when Thanos blasted him.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Proof that DS killed pantheons.
http://img307.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jkfw03185mr.jpg
http://img326.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jkfw04151ls.jpg
What the Hell does DS beating a bunch of no name Gods through some undisclosed method prove? Do you take the statement that Sentry fought Galactus to a standstill at face value(be honest)?




Originally posted by TricksterPriest
That's enough for now.

Not by a long shot Trick.

And something else just occured to me. Remember the fight between Byrne's Supes and DS? Well take a close look at this particular panel...
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/493/actioncomics58619qu3sj8.th.jpg

DS himself says that if he weren't able to resist the OE, his body wouldn't be able to contain it. That means that if it couldn't be resisted via durability DS never would have gotten it in the first place because it would have destroyed him.


So let's see...

A.The OE has been flat put resisted by Supes, Doomsday, and DS himself through nothing more that durability(which Thanos has in abundance).
B. It's been deflected/blocked by Supes, WW, Ryker, and Firestorm.

Hmm...I still see it being something that Thanos could deal with.

Goober, I'm going to give you a chance to back off something. Either you back off from using the Hunger, or I bring in GDS, 7 soldiers, etc. You said any DS appearence is canon? Guess what, you just changed the rules and gave me the opening to use those.

So back off from the Hunger, or I pull out GDS.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Goober, I'm going to give you a chance to back off something. Either you back off from using the Hunger, or I bring in GDS, 7 soldiers, etc. You said any DS appearence is canon? Guess what, you just changed the rules and gave me the opening to use those.

So back off from the Hunger, or I pull out GDS.
Trick I haven't changed ANY rules.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ok. Any feats or arcs you want disbarred?
Originally posted by Soljer
Originally posted by darthgoober
Just what we talked about before, no future versions and no Seven Soldiers or later.

Pre Seven Soldiers was the version we agreed on for this match, and GDS is an alternate future which means that it's not canon to DS's current character. Both of those things were specifically talked about, but other than those I ok'd your using ANYTHING with DS in it remember...
Originally posted by darthgoober
Well here we are, the first Battle Zone fight. I'll ask all non participants to refrain from posting in this thread because this is a solo debate between TricksterPriest and myself. This is a non-official, standard match where TricksterPriest will represent classic Darkseid, and I'll be representing classic Thanos. Here are some of the specific details of the match...


Darkseid-Trickster is allowed to use all of DS's printed Pre Seven Soldiers arc(no Seven Soldiers showings though) because technically there's only one Darkseid in DC. The only limitation to this, is alternate versions of DS from future timelines(such as the GDS) as per Forum Rules.

Thanos-I will be allowed to use all of Thanos's canon appearances, including the showings of Thanos's LOW LEVEL clones. When I say low level I mean the "standard" Thanos clones that are often mistaken for him, but not clones like Omega or X which are DNA amalgams of Thanos and another character.



Now here's where it gets tricky because rather than just try to convince the judges that our characters would win the majority in a fight between the two, Trickster and I have a some special victory conditions for this fight. Trickster's goal is to convince the judges that Darkseid is completely out of Thanos's league, and that Darkseid would beat Thanos in a forum match 10/10. My goal on the other hand is to show that the two are closer in power than most are willing to give Thanos credit for, and convince the judges that Thanos could win at least one match out of 10 between the two. So it's basically an "all or nothing" affair, because in the end it comes down to whether or not it's POSSIBLE for Thanos to win.



With all that being said, since most are regarding Trick as being the underdog in this match I'll let him present his case first(and the time of his first post will mark the beginning of the 24 hour time limit)...

(Just FYI even though I included a poll, it won't be taken into consideration as far as the match winner goes(because of possible sock interference). I'm only including it so people can put their two cents in without having to spam the match. But I'll still ask people to refrain from voting at least until we get a chance to present our initial arguments.)

So sorry, but I have no intention of letting YOU change the rules that we've already agreed upon. If you want to forfeit though because you can't win without ignoring specifically agreed upon match conditions though that's fine with me....

You can't throw GDS out and use the Hunger. That's BS. I was fine with the set rules, but you're using freaking crossovers.

you are using crossovers and claiming that they are canon to Darkseid because there is only one Darkseid. So what's stopping me from using GDS?

There's some blatent hypocrisy here.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Well here we are, the first Battle Zone fight. I'll ask all non participants to refrain from posting in this thread because this is a solo debate between TricksterPriest and myself. This is a non-official, standard match where TricksterPriest will represent classic Darkseid, and I'll be representing classic Thanos. Here are some of the specific details of the match...


Darkseid-Trickster is allowed to use all of DS's printed Pre Seven Soldiers arc(no Seven Soldiers showings though) because technically there's only one Darkseid in DC. The only limitation to this, is alternate versions of DS from future timelines(such as the GDS) as per Forum Rules.

Thanos-I will be allowed to use all of Thanos's canon appearances, including the showings of Thanos's LOW LEVEL clones. When I say low level I mean the "standard" Thanos clones that are often mistaken for him, but not clones like Omega or X which are DNA amalgams of Thanos and another character.



Now here's where it gets tricky because rather than just try to convince the judges that our characters would win the majority in a fight between the two, Trickster and I have a some special victory conditions for this fight. Trickster's goal is to convince the judges that Darkseid is completely out of Thanos's league, and that Darkseid would beat Thanos in a forum match 10/10. My goal on the other hand is to show that the two are closer in power than most are willing to give Thanos credit for, and convince the judges that Thanos could win at least one match out of 10 between the two. So it's basically an "all or nothing" affair, because in the end it comes down to whether or not it's POSSIBLE for Thanos to win.



With all that being said, since most are regarding Trick as being the underdog in this match I'll let him present his case first(and the time of his first post will mark the beginning of the 24 hour time limit)...

(Just FYI even though I included a poll, it won't be taken into consideration as far as the match winner goes(because of possible sock interference). I'm only including it so people can put their two cents in without having to spam the match. But I'll still ask people to refrain from voting at least until we get a chance to present our initial arguments.)

"because technically there's only one Darkseid in DC."

So you're trying to claim Thanos from a crossover is equal to Darkseid?

and that the Hunger, a non-canon crossover, is somehow canon to Darkseid.

So what evidence have you got that puts this crossover Thanos on par with regular Thanos?

I was fine with all of this. Hell, even losing wouldn't have bothered me much. But bringing out non-canon crossovers to prove your point?

You're violating your own rules. And it seems to me, that if you don't back off or compromise, you should be DQed. If there's only one DS, then what right have you to bar GDS, etc?

I request a judge vote on the matter.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
"because technically there's only one Darkseid in DC."

So you're trying to claim Thanos from a crossover is equal to Darkseid?

and that the Hunger, a non-canon crossover, is somehow canon to Darkseid.

So what evidence have you got that puts this crossover Thanos on par with regular Thanos?

I was fine with all of this. Hell, even losing wouldn't have bothered me much. But bringing out non-canon crossovers to prove your point?

You're violating your own rules. And it seems to me, that if you don't back off or compromise, you should be DQed. If there's only one DS, then what right have you to bar GDS, etc?

I request a judge vote on the matter.
I just showed the specific rules, and there's NO WAY I'm violating ANY of them. But if you want, we can bring in the judges right now and let them decide which of us should be DQ'd.

Judges, are crossovers allowed?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Judges, are crossovers allowed?
I meant for the judges to vote on a DQ, the rules are staying as is. If there's one thing I WILL NOT tolerate in the Battle Zone, it's people like you trying to get the rules changed to help them out of a bind. The match continues, or the judges vote now on who's in violation of the rules and is thus DQ'd.

It's just occurred to me that I've spent far more time focusing on the failings of DS than I have on the capabilities of Thanos, so I figured I'd go ahead and touch on that a little more because I'd rather not win JUST because of the Hunger.



Here we see Eros talking to Drax and Surfer(who believes that he just killed Thanos)...
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/5473/silversurfer04402ij4ka8.th.jpg

Now think about that. According to Eros, the "fake" Thanos was EASILY as strong as that Hulk(whom Eros knew from his time with the Avengers), and Thanos has that level of strength NATURALLY. Of course as we all know at one point Thanos DID receive bionic enhancement, but like Eros said he didn't NEED it to match the Hulk's strength level. Of course WITH the bionic enhancement Thanos was an absolute beast...

(knocking Mar-Vell from Saturn to Earth)
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4590/85157929fi8.th.jpg http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7290/99415456lx9.th.jpg



And after Thanos's first "death", he was resurrected by Mistress Death who "greatly enhances his might"...
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/1471/thanosquest106dj0.th.jpg

So how powerful was he post resurrection?

Powerful enough to easily breaks Quasar's force field which couldn't been broken by the Alpha Flight ,X-men and Avengers...
http://img313.imageshack.us/my.php?image=energy111gl8.jpg
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/8749/energy112ck2.jpg

And then go on to take on Thor, Herculese, the Hulk, and Thing ALL AT ONCE...
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/...erculesthor.jpg

Now let's face it, those things ALONE qualify Thanos as a likely threat to DS, and they're all from BEFORE Thanos's last upgrade in the End. AFTER his upgrade in the End, he racks up even more impressive feats and demonstrates an even greater level of power. I've already shown his blasting Galactus post upgrade, so let's look some of his other post upgrade feats...

Beats the Fallen One...
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Thanos/thanosvsfallenone.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Thanos/thanosvsfallenone1.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Thanos/thanosvsfallenone2.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Thanos/thanosvsfallenone3.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Thanos/thanosvsfallenone4.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Thanos/thanosvsfallenone5.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Thanos/thanosvsfallenone6.jpg

Here he nearly beats Galactus telepathically...
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9950/energy281yz9.jpg
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4827/energy282jp2.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4483/energy283sy8.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4251/energy284sb8.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8898/energy285od2.jpg

And let's not forget his fight with the Maker(a cube being)...
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Thanos/thanosvsmakerf2.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Thanos/thanosvsmakerf21.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Thanos/thanosvsmakerf22.jpg
*This was before he finished her off via mind shutdown*

I know what people are thinking "big deal he has some high end feats", but you know what...those are pretty much the only showings that Thanos has post upgrade. There's NO showings post upgrade that indicate that Thanos's post upgrade feats are PIS or a fluke, so the feats have to be taken at face value.


Here let's review...

Thanos is strong enough to...
A. Knock someone like Mar-Vell Saturn to Earth...
B. Shatter Quasar's construct(that's resisted the combined might of Alpha Flight ,X-men and Avengers)...
C. Overpower Thor, Herculese, the Hulk, and Thing...

His energy blast are sufficient to...
A. Blow Glactus though the Hull of his own ship and damage his armor
B. Put down herald level guys like Surfer, Thor, and the Fallen One with ease
C. Knock Classic Magus for a loop...
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Thanos/?action=view&current=thanosblastsmagus.jpg

His durability is sufficient to...
A. Take everything Odin dishes out
B. Take shots from Magus with an incomplete Infinity Guantlet
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/1786/infintywars0616hh5.jpg

His personal force fields are so powerful that even a WELL FED Galactus has to exert himself to blast through them...
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6706/energy31uw6.jpg

His mental abilities are sufficient enough to...
A. KO the Maker
B. Nearly take down Galactus
C. Resist the Mind Gem

He's resistant to transmutation, and even reality warping...
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2626/thanosquest110va2.jpg

And let's not forget, Thanos has a MUCH better track record against individual opponents of significant power. He's beaten on guys like Thor and Surfer NUMEROUS times, and even powerful opponents such as Odin and Tyrant have been unable to put him down for the count.



So when you look at all the evidence from an objective standpoint, I think it's save to say that Thanos IS a threat to Darkseid. Hell Trickster hasn't even shown anything that definitely gives DS the majority over post upgrade Thanos, let alone beating him 10/10. The claim in and of itself is utterly ludicrous, and completely unfounded.

Alright the match is over. Judges you can make your votes whenever you're ready.

*waits*

Gotta save the best for last, right?

.

Originally posted by Soljer
*waits*

Gotta save the best for last, right?

.

so why arent you going first then?

i'll vote soon...

Originally posted by Soljer
*waits*

Gotta save the best for last, right?

.
Vote damn it, the suspense is making me smoke all my weed!

Originally posted by darthgoober
Vote damn it, the suspense is making me smoke all my weed! goob = spliff

Originally posted by Galan007
goob = spliff




That is, without a doubt, the single coolest smiley I've ever seen. Just so you know I'm stealing it...

Originally posted by darthgoober
That is, without a doubt, the single coolest smiley I've ever seen. Just so you know I'm stealing it...

Oh ****monkeys........... I go out for a bit and my match is over.

Can we rematch? I had at least 3 more posts worth of scans........

A post limit would be good.

Just read over it and the 24 hour rule fails sorry. I mean no one can guarantee when they are on or been on enough as the opponent so they lose time countering posts.

Aw nuts. Well, if I can't get an extension, I'm reissuing the challenge.

Lurked for about a week, followed this and have to say the rule is stupid.

Originally posted by Grifter07
A post limit would be good.

Just read over it and the 24 hour rule fails sorry. I mean no one can guarantee when they are on or been on enough as the opponent so they lose time countering posts.
Originally posted by Grifter07
Lurked for about a week, followed this and have to say the rule is stupid.
Except that the participants are the ones to decide when the match should be, so it falls on them to schedule it for a time when they'll be available.

Alright...

I'm going to be honest... i'm not a big thanos or darkseid reader, so my opinion was going to be based purely on the arguments presented in the thread...

Now, given that trick had to prove that thanos couldnt get one victory over darkseid, i felt from the start that he was going to have to completely blow goober out of the water...

unfortunately, while i did agree with alot of what trick said, looking at darkseid and thanos, there's just not enough there to convince me that he'd get a total ten out of ten, given some of thanos's very impressive feats...

So my vote is for:

darthgoober...

Deciding Vote!!!

I think pretty much anyone that read this match could tell that it was a landslide. .

As was my opinion before the match, Darkseid would probably take a majority against Thanos...

However, my opinion about the SIZE of that majority has radically changed due to Goober's posts - regardless of the Hunger.

Meaning, I think, as far as Trickster and Goober's thread was concerned, if someone was totally ignorant of both characters, Goober could have easily convinced them that Thanos not only plays the same game, on the same field, but that he could take a majority from Darkseid.

Now, my own preconceived notions of both characters restrict me from giving Thanos the majority that easily.

However, the winner according to the rules set down and agreed upon by both combatants?

DARTHGOOBER.

Congrats Goober.

There will however, be a reckoning. evillaugh We shall meet again.

Congratulations DG. You did a great job on the match.

shit....just got back on. Ah well, props to both

Originally posted by Blair Wind
shit....just got back on. Ah well, props to both

HA!

You are now MEANINGLESS!

Muahah!

Thanks everyone .


And Trick, I'll have your new sig as soon as Digi finishes it .

Can we post our observations in this thread or in the other?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Can we post our observations in this thread or in the other?
Sure. Go ahead and do it in this thread that way the Odds thread isn't overly spammed.

This one, I'd say. The other one is for discussion about the battlezone in general. No need for a finished match to clutter up the battlezone discussion thread, when there should be OTHER matches going on.

Originally posted by Soljer
if someone was totally ignorant of both characters, Goober could have easily convinced them that Thanos not only plays the same game, on the same field, but that he could take a majority from Darkseid.

thanks dude... you b*stard...

Originally posted by Soljer
HA!

You are now MEANINGLESS!

Muahah!

How long have you been wanting to say that to me? ermm

Originally posted by pr1983
thanks dude... you b*stard...

I didn't mean you. I meant, literally, totally ignorant. Never heard of either of them in their life.

You at least have forum-talk biasing you, .

Hey I just thought of something...

Originally posted by Soljer
As was my opinion before the match, Darkseid would probably take a majority against Thanos...

However, my opinion about the SIZE of that majority has radically changed due to Goober's posts - regardless of the Hunger.


So what kind of win/loss ratio do you give Thanos now? For that matter, what kind did you give him before?

Previously, I gave him one or two.

Now I'd easily give him four. .

Originally posted by Soljer
Previously, I gave him one or two.

Now I'd easily give him four. .
Right on. Did he move up, or did DS move down?

Originally posted by Soljer
I didn't mean you. I meant, literally, totally ignorant. Never heard of either of them in their life.

You at least have forum-talk biasing you, .

Originally posted by darthgoober
Right on. Did he move up, or did DS move down?

A little of column A, a little of column b.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Sure. Go ahead and do it in this thread that way the Odds thread isn't overly spammed. Spammed?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Spammed?
Huh? Anyway just post it here.

Originally posted by Soljer
A little of column A, a little of column b.
Cool.

Ok so my observations. Trick Spent too much time trying to hype of DS and didn't use his best feats. He should have tried to discredit Thanos as much as he could. I woudln't have went for how much Thanos can endure, becuz we know he can take alot. I would have went for how much he can't crank out. DS has the ability to reality warp and create beings out of nothingness. He could subject Thanos to many many attacks. I also would have made note that since DS is about to die, everything that has happened to all versions of him are him. In GDS, the past DS came from the present and beat a being who had the power of Two Abstract lvl beings. Plus his own. Not counting GDS DS, the Current DS still experienced beating a being who was far being Skyfather. Since we know DS is about to manifest the Full omega again, there is no way in hell thanos has the power to get even one win. Infinity man would give Thanos a fight, as would Stayne. And neither can take DS.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Ok so my observations. Trick Spent too much time trying to hype of DS and didn't use his best feats. He should have tried to discredit Thanos as much as he could. I woudln't have went for how much Thanos can endure, becuz we know he can take alot. I would have went for how much he can't crank out. DS has the ability to reality warp and create beings out of nothingness. He could subject Thanos to many many attacks. I also would have made note that since DS is about to die, everything that has happened to all versions of him are him. In GDS, the past DS came from the present and beat a being who had the power of Two Abstract lvl beings. Plus his own. Not counting GDS DS, the Current DS still experienced beating a being who was far being Skyfather. Since we know DS is about to manifest the Full omega again, there is no way in hell thanos has the power to get even one win. Infinity man would give Thanos a fight, as would Stayne. And neither can take DS.
Yeah...I don't see Trick saying any of that giving him the win. GDS is invalid by FORUM rules, so none of your little theory's and loopholes about it matter. Did you ever think that maybe DS dying is proof that NOT all versions of DS are valid? Think about it, how are future versions of DS that will never come to pass the same character? Now there's a real mind bender for you. As for guys like Infinity Man and Stayne....prove it.

And what being that's far beyond a skyfather did DS beat?

Originally posted by darthgoober
As for guys like Infinity Man and Stayne....prove it.


Is that a Battlezone challenge?

Do I hear Darthgoober vs. Nvr coming up?!

!

Originally posted by Soljer
Is that a Battlezone challenge?

Do I hear Darthgoober vs. Nvr coming up?!

!
Maybe sometime, but not for now(I normally want to punch my monitor when I debate with nvr OUTSIDE of the Battle Zone). Anyway, my character's supposed to be Keeper not Thanos, this match was just a special case because I had a point to make. I don't want to get drawn into defending Thanos everytime...

So, nvr, how about it? Keeper vs. Stayne?

Keeper vs Infinity Man?

.

Originally posted by Soljer
So, nvr, how about it? Keeper vs. Stayne?

Keeper vs Infinity Man?

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I doubt that nvr would go for that because in all likelihood Keeper would kick either of their asses .

OOOOHHHHH!!!

Sounds like a challenge to me!

Originally posted by darthgoober
(I normally want to punch my monitor when I debate with nvr OUTSIDE of the Battle Zone).


We all know how you feel.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah...I don't see Trick saying any of that giving him the win. GDS is invalid by FORUM rules, so none of your little theory's and loopholes about it matter. Did you ever think that maybe DS dying is proof that NOT all versions of DS are valid? Think about it, how are future versions of DS that will never come to pass the same character? Now there's a real mind bender for you. As for guys like Infinity Man and Stayne....prove it.

And what being that's far beyond a skyfather did DS beat?

Actually, there is a loophole by which the GDS feats can be let in. Darkseid killed GDS DS. Everything GDS 'seid did was done in a weakened state. And Darkseid easily killed GDS 'seid.

and the forum rules can go to hell. There is no forum rule regarding GDS, and I have disputed that interpretation with Digi for some time now.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Maybe sometime, but not for now(I normally want to punch my monitor when I debate with nvr OUTSIDE of the Battle Zone). Anyway, my character's supposed to be Keeper not Thanos, this match was just a special case because I had a point to make. I don't want to get drawn into defending Thanos everytime...

No. Nvr will not be fighting you. You will however, be obligated to accept a rematch from me. I didn't get a chance to use my full arsenal, and though I will take the loser sig, I consider this a handicap loss.


You owe me a real match.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Ok so my observations. Trick Spent too much time trying to hype of DS and didn't use his best feats. He should have tried to discredit Thanos as much as he could. I woudln't have went for how much Thanos can endure, becuz we know he can take alot. I would have went for how much he can't crank out. DS has the ability to reality warp and create beings out of nothingness. He could subject Thanos to many many attacks. I also would have made note that since DS is about to die, everything that has happened to all versions of him are him. In GDS, the past DS came from the present and beat a being who had the power of Two Abstract lvl beings. Plus his own. Not counting GDS DS, the Current DS still experienced beating a being who was far being Skyfather. Since we know DS is about to manifest the Full omega again, there is no way in hell thanos has the power to get even one win. Infinity man would give Thanos a fight, as would Stayne. And neither can take DS.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I doubt that nvr would go for that because in all likelihood Keeper would kick either of their asses .

Infinity Man would actually be a really good fight. Not sure who would win.

Stayne outclasses Keeper.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Actually, there is a loophole by which the GDS feats can be let in. Darkseid killed GDS DS. Everything GDS 'seid did was done in a weakened state. And Darkseid easily killed GDS 'seid.

and the forum rules can go to hell. There is no forum rule regarding GDS, and I have disputed that interpretation with Digi for some time now.
You mean weakened and then repowered up right? Before DS did a single impressive feat in that arc, he was powered up by outside items TWICE. And actually, I heard from starking that it wasn't actually GDS DS that current Darkseid beat.

And you don't have to LIKE the rules Trick. I don't like the fact that DS's appearances from Hypertime and alternate realities are admissible, but those are just things that we have to deal with.



Originally posted by TricksterPriest
No. Nvr will not be fighting you. You will however, be obligated to accept a rematch from me. I didn't get a chance to use my full arsenal, and though I will take the loser sig, I consider this a handicap loss.


You owe me a real match.
As I said, what didn't you get to show? I only proposed the match because I've yet to see anything that puts DS heads and tails over Thanos in power. If you can convince me of that now by providing evidence to that effect, then I'll go ahead and acknowledge it and no match will be necessary. Unless of course, you think you HAVE to have some kind of undisclosed "secret weapon" just to stand a chance against me....

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Infinity Man would actually be a really good fight. Not sure who would win.

Stayne outclasses Keeper.
Really because according to Galan, Takion(who's the equal of Stayne) is right on par with Keeper power wise. In fact, he said he'd slightly FAVOR Keeper in that match.

Originally posted by darthgoober
You mean weakened and then repowered up right? Before DS did a single impressive feat in that arc, he was powered up by outside items TWICE. And actually, I heard from starking that it wasn't actually GDS DS that current Darkseid beat.

And you don't have to LIKE the rules Trick. I don't like the fact that DS's appearances from Hypertime and alternate realities are admissible, but those are just things that we have to deal with.




As I said, what didn't you get to show? I only proposed the match because I've yet to see anything that puts DS heads and tails over Thanos in power. If you can convince me of that now by providing evidence to that effect, then I'll go ahead and acknowledge it and no match will be necessary. Unless of course, you think you HAVE to have some kind of undisclosed "secret weapon" just to stand a chance against me....

First off, GDS 'seid was not at full power. He acknowledged that he was stronger in the past and that absorbing Mordru and Time Trapper's power didn't bring him back to full power.


And you asked for it.

Before I continue showing why Darkseid outclasses Thanos, I'm going to take a slight detour and show off some of Darkseid's uber minions. All of whom were created under his own power.

First off, I'm going to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, that PC Validus would annihilate Thanos.

I'm going to copy some of the things from Rorscarch's respect thread.

Originally posted by Rorschach
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/5420/34639759wp0.th.jpg

Sun Boy claims Validus can take down entire cities with his mental lightning, and that his voice itself is like thunder.

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/6875/63261167td1.th.jpg

His mental lightning can give out the energy of 1,000 30th Century power plants. The sheer power that Validus is unleashing almost knocks out Sun Boy, and his high intensity solar burst does nothing to Validus.

Originally posted by Rorschach
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3613/21667918oe2.th.jpg

A portion of a Sun-Eater unleashes planet-splitting force, and it is met by the equally devastating power of Validus.

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9710/20679334ia9.th.jpg

A wounded Validus shows up and saves Valiant Girl from another portion of the Sun-Eater. He also forces it to retreat.

Originally posted by Rorschach
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1727/49196921uh7.th.jpghttp://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5660/10ts6.th.jpg

Validus takes out Superboy.


More to come soon.

Originally posted by Rorschach
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2604/13oa6.th.jpghttp://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7739/14rx9.th.jpg

Grabs a speeding Mon-El and throws him right through a planetoid.

Originally posted by Rorschach
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1947/17ha7.th.jpghttp://img174.imageshack.us/img174/977/18be2.th.jpghttp://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5083/19fv3.th.jpg
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9396/20gs0.th.jpghttp://img224.imageshack.us/img224/6752/21xu3.th.jpghttp://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4974/22gn5.th.jpg

Validus punks the Legion and kills the Invisible Kid, effortlessly.



In addition to all this, Validus is completely immune to TP and most forms of matter manip.

Next up: Stayne.

Her origin: http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takion2125zp7ua.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takion2137mg5wc.jpg

The big ass hand is Darkseid.


Stayne is considered totally equal to Takion and capable of performing any feat that he can. So here are a few feats from Takion to demonstrate his power. Most of these feats are from when he was still learning how to use his powers.

Originally posted by Estacado
Takion vs Kyle Rayner
Shows ability to teleport turns off Kyle's ring by intercepting it's energies.When Kyle tries to contain Takion he begins to "feed" on the ring's energy which awakens the power of The Source inside him.While he tries to regain control he somehow manages to lift out a huge air craft carrier from the see also teleports it.
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1945/53585064ho9.th.jpghttp://img169.imageshack.us/img169/5232/14078697hi4.th.jpghttp://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9691/24012840kw7.th.jpghttp://img291.imageshack.us/img291/5889/13397054mq4.th.jpg
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2887/85561323cd5.th.jpghttp://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4338/91484487qn3.th.jpghttp://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3408/68522239gc5.th.jpg

Originally posted by Estacado
Creates and controls a black hole
After he created the black hole he is able to manipulate the gravitational pull of it showing this by focusing it on the air craft carrier also says he is capable of manipulating the forces of the Universe.
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/5092/45747471bv0.th.jpghttp://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1567/83586538df0.th.jpg






cont.

Originally posted by Estacado
Abilities
Lasers don't effect him he can also change the solidity of his body can put things in a magnetic stasis capable of teleporting others by shifting reality.
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/7971/16117854pi5.th.jpghttp://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2995/17347736fu1.th.jpghttp://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4182/15186458le0.th.jpghttp://img160.imageshack.us/img160/4329/94522842na7.th.jpg





cont.

Originally posted by Estacado
Takion vs Stayne
She was created by Darkseid she is the "dark side" of the Source.
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/884/35729777pu8.th.jpghttp://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7558/59455268gr1.th.jpghttp://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3714/87241002gx6.th.jpg
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7184/82344094rv9.th.jpghttp://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8720/56792000lp3.th.jpghttp://img139.imageshack.us/img139/3792/31110288tz0.th.jpg

Couldn't you save a lot of time if you just linked to the respect forum? .

Originally posted by Estacado
Takion Vs Stayne
Takion and Stayne have the exact same powers only Stayne is evil.Takion is capable of gathering neutrons from the air and solidify them using hem as energy beams. He is being able to scatter Stayne's energies by dispersing her magnetic field she counters this by intensifying her gravitational field on a molecular level.After Takion tries to turn her into anti matter that can't exist in th matter universe but his strategy doesn't work because Stayne contained her self in an electro magnetic field with this she is not touching matter then Takion also changes him self into anti matter after takion tries to destroy her by messing with her molecular structure but Stayne just merges with him and tales control of him from inside as within a few seconds he is able to separate her from himself.
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Originally posted by Endless Mike
Takion easily stops a battle between the forces of Apokolips and Earth's heroes and pulls the heroes out of it in some kind of forcefield to talk to them:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/takioninterruptsbattle.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/takioninterruptsbattle1.jpg

Even though Takion died during the Genesis event, as soon as the Source was restored, he was as well, since he was a part of it. This implies that as long as the Source exists, Takion can't die:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/takionlinkedtosource.jpg

Takion searches all of Apokolips for Darkseid:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/takionsearchesapokolips.jpg

Takion teleports all of the heroes from the Source Wall back to their homes:http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/takionteleportation.jpg

Another thing DS can do that Thanos cannot, is resurrect the dead, including those killed by his OE.
Erases Lashina:
http://img435.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vaporizes8cb.jpg

And.....rezzes Lashina:
http://img481.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lashina9mk.jpg

Originally posted by darthgoober
I doubt that nvr would go for that because in all likelihood Keeper would kick either of their asses .
You would never see me argue against him with IM. I would pick Highfather.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
First off, GDS 'seid was not at full power. He acknowledged that he was stronger in the past and that absorbing Mordru and Time Trapper's power didn't bring him back to full power.
But he didn't just absorb their power now did he? He also absorbed energy from Excalibure and the Orb of...something or other(I don't remember what).

But of course none of that matters, because GDS isn't allowed by forum rules.


Originally posted by TricksterPriest
And you asked for it.

Before I continue showing why Darkseid outclasses Thanos, I'm going to take a slight detour and show off some of Darkseid's uber minions. All of whom were created under his own power.

First off, I'm going to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, that PC Validus would annihilate Thanos.

I'm going to copy some of the things from Rorscarch's respect thread.








More to come soon.
Minions mean shit. Odin's created plenty of things that possess powers that he himself lacks, and ALL of Galactus's heralds are faster than he and have capabilities that he doesn't.

Originally posted by darthgoober
But he didn't just absorb their power now did he? He also absorbed energy from Excalibure and the Orb of...something or other(I don't remember what).

But of course none of that matters, because GDS isn't allowed by forum rules.



Minions mean shit. Odin's created plenty of things that possess powers that he himself lacks,

what?

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
what?
To which part?

To describe darkseids minions and their feats isnt pertinent to this conversation. Should thanos backers bring up omega who is above all these characters that trick named. No becuz even though thanos created him it isnt him. Its a feat for thanos genius is all. Darkseid does have incredible power but his power differs from his minions as does galactus with his minions or heralds as well. I hope this opened up lots of eyes here and I still believe thanos takes a vast majority here. Vast.

Originally posted by darthgoober
To which part?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Minions mean shit. Odin's created plenty of things that possess powers that he himself lacks

131

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
131
Ah...I was thinking of things like the Destroyer, and Odin's spear. Both of which originate from the Odin Force, and both of which have capabilities beyond those of Odin himself.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Actually, there is a loophole by which the GDS feats can be let in. Darkseid killed GDS DS. Everything GDS 'seid did was done in a weakened state. And Darkseid easily killed GDS 'seid.

and the forum rules can go to hell. There is no forum rule regarding GDS, and I have disputed that interpretation with Digi for some time now.



No. Nvr will not be fighting you. You will however, be obligated to accept a rematch from me. I didn't get a chance to use my full arsenal, and though I will take the loser sig, I consider this a handicap loss.


You owe me a real match. Why should gds darkseid feats be relevent when he was absorbing other beings powers. The other reason is it happened in the future and hasnt occurred yet.

And i am going to correct you. Gds darkseid fought a Youthful 8th century darkseid immediately after he was resurrected pretty much. He hadnt had time to go around and amp himself up. Young ds used to orion to kill him. This darkseid killing the older i just woke up i aint shit darkseid is not impressive in the least. The whole point of dragging his younger self there was to give him his youthful body back becuz the current one he occupied was run down. Feat doesnt satnd and it shouldnt as the there is no loophole. Some overzealous fans of darkseid want so desperately to reference these feats becuz he was impressive in the story. That is the only reason/

Originally posted by darthgoober
Ah...I was thinking of things like the Destroyer, and Odin's spear. Both of which originate from the Odin Force, and both of which have capabilities beyond those of Odin himself. Goober im curious as you have argued for thanos here. Out of ten matches how many does thanos take in your opinion?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
guess what? Darthgoober challenged me in the battle zone. He wants to fight me using Thanos, while I have Darkseid. Originally posted by Blair Wind
I dont see the funny Originally posted by TricksterPriest
the fight itself. the concept of putting Thanos against Darkseid in a straight fight.......aw forget it. I'll prove the damn point when it happens. Originally posted by Blair Wind
And when you lose what do I win? ermm

Lets put it this way. *I* (and for some reason you think im a good debater ) wouldnt intentionally want to face Goober. He is extremely smart.

Id be more scared about the debater than the character. At least thats my general rule.

Just letting you know now so when you lose you can remember I said this

Eh, Trickster? You hadn't forgotten, had you? 313

Originally posted by quanchi112
Goober im curious as you have argued for thanos here. Out of ten matches how many does thanos take in your opinion?
I can't really make an educated call on Post Seven Soldiers DS because all the issue's I have involving DS are prior to that arc. As for "classic" DS, I'd probably give DS 6/10 over Thanos in a regular fight but give Thanos 7/10 in a primarily h2h confrontation. DS's loses to Supes DID bring his "average showing" significantly down IMO, but that average was set EXTREMELY high back in the Pre Crisis Days which is why I still see him taking the majority. If Thanos had gotten one or two more good showings under his belt after his upgrade to cement his new level of power I might give him the majority overall, but I prefer to go by what I've actually seen rather than speculate which is why I still see DS winning more often than not.

Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
Eh, Trickster? You hadn't forgotten, had you? 313 Goober definitely rammed his points home. He won convincingly imo.

Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
Eh, Trickster? You hadn't forgotten, had you? 313
crylaugh

Originally posted by darthgoober
I can't really make an educated call on Post Seven Soldiers DS because all the issue's I have involving DS are prior to that arc. As for "classic" DS, I'd probably give DS 6/10 over Thanos in a regular fight but give Thanos 7/10 in a primarily h2h confrontation. DS's loses to Supes DID bring his "average showing" significantly down IMO, but that average was set EXTREMELY high back in the Pre Crisis Days which is why I still see him taking the majority. If Thanos had gotten one or two more good showings under his belt after his upgrade to cement his new level of power I might give him the majority overall, but I prefer to go by what I've actually seen rather than speculate which is why I still see DS winning more often than not. Goober why. I dont see you can give ds the majority when you believe that the omega effect wouldnt even work on thanos. That is his only trump card and i for one dont think it would work either. Thanos is to crafty anyway to just get hit by it. Even before his upgrade i see it the same way. think about it when did you ever see thanos get tossed around as darkseid has in the past. I mean raker,doomsday, and superman multiple times. Think about the characters that have gotten the better of thanos. Tyrant and Odin, and with odin he wasnt able to put him down after a long and drawn out affair in asgard. Both these characters would defeat darkseid. Whereas superman,raker, and doomsday would all fall to thanos. In a few months if you are interested id like to challenge you to represent darkseid and for me to represent thanos. This way you could argue from the other standpoint and we would be arguing for straight up majority wins here. I understand if you dont want to argue these characters again though. This does seem fun.

What say you?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Goober why. I dont see you can give ds the majority when you believe that the omega effect wouldnt even work on thanos. That is his only trump card and i for one dont think it would work either. Thanos is to crafty anyway to just get hit by it. Even before his upgrade i see it the same way. think about it when did you ever see thanos get tossed around as darkseid has in the past. I mean raker,doomsday, and superman multiple times. Think about the characters that have gotten the better of thanos. Tyrant and Odin, and with odin he wasnt able to put him down after a long and drawn out affair in asgard. Both these characters would defeat darkseid. Whereas superman,raker, and doomsday would all fall to thanos. In a few months if you are interested id like to challenge you to represent darkseid and for me to represent thanos. This way you could argue from the other standpoint and we would be arguing for straight up majority wins here. I understand if you dont want to argue these characters again though. This does seem fun.

What say you?
It's not that I think the OE wouldn't work on Thanos, it's that I don't see it erasing him. I still give it credit for hurting like Hell and causing quite a bit of damage. And unless Thanos uses the Power Cosmic(which would be highly out of character for him) the OE provides DS with a level of versatility that Thanos just can't match. What's more, even though I prefer to go by what I've actually seen in comics, I've learned to look past what's actually been printed as well. DS HAS to lose otherwise all of DC's heroes die, it's just that simple. DS is pretty much ALWAYS the antagonist in the story, so the script DEMANDS that he go down. Thanos on the other hand, has been portrayed as an Anti Hero as much as he has a villain, which is why he lacks the low end feats that DS has tacked to his record. When DS ISN'T the "bad guy" in the story, he's normally portrayed as being over Thanos, but just under Odin.

As for a match...I'll take it into consideration. I'm still looking up a lot of DS's old appearances and I'm no where near comfortable in my knowledge of him, but we might be able to sometime after I am.

Originally posted by darthgoober
It's not that I think the OE wouldn't work on Thanos, it's that I don't see it erasing him. I still give it credit for hurting like Hell and causing quite a bit of damage. And unless Thanos uses the Power Cosmic(which would be highly out of character for him) the OE provides DS with a level of versatility that Thanos just can't match. What's more, even though I prefer to go by what I've actually seen in comics, I've learned to look past what's actually been printed as well. DS HAS to lose otherwise all of DC's heroes die, it's just that simple. DS is pretty much ALWAYS the antagonist in the story, so the script DEMANDS that he go down. Thanos on the other hand, has been portrayed as an Anti Hero as much as he has a villain, which is why he lacks the low end feats that DS has tacked to his record. When DS ISN'T the "bad guy" in the story, he's normally portrayed as being over Thanos, but just under Odin.

As for a match...I'll take it into consideration. I'm still looking up a lot of DS's old appearances and I'm no where near comfortable in my knowledge of him, but we might be able to sometime after I am. I strongly disagree that ds is usually portrayed as above thanos and just under odin. Look at hunter and prey as he wasnt the main villain and was just in the story but was mercilessly and easily just manhandled by the villain. Whereas in the warrior madness thor storyline as thor was the villain of this story. They just dropped thor in on thanos armed with a plot device and the power gem. Thanos defeated him and took everything he had to offer. Sure thanos defeated him temporarily and with a plot device. But it goes to show how prepared thanos is and how quickly he reacts in these types of situations. I dont want to get into another debate here and its already been said a hundred times over, congrats on the win as it was deserved.

I would like to challenege nverbeenwithgirl on this thanos vs darkseid debate sometime next month.

This will give him a chance to prove his case and since he says im such a horrible poster it should be an easy win,right.
Do you accept nver?

The champion of thanos vs the champion of darkseid.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I strongly disagree that ds is usually portrayed as above thanos and just under odin. Look at hunter and prey as he wasnt the main villain and was just in the story but was mercilessly and easily just manhandled by the villain. Whereas in the warrior madness thor storyline as thor was the villain of this story. They just dropped thor in on thanos armed with a plot device and the power gem. Thanos defeated him and took everything he had to offer. Sure thanos defeated him temporarily and with a plot device. But it goes to show how prepared thanos is and how quickly he reacts in these types of situations. I dont want to get into another debate here and its already been said a hundred times over, congrats on the win as it was deserved.

I would like to challenege nverbeenwithgirl on this thanos vs darkseid debate sometime next month.

This will give him a chance to prove his case and since he says im such a horrible poster it should be an easy win,right.
Do you accept nver?

The champion of thanos vs the champion of darkseid.

you would do well not to try this, especially with a retcon and powering back up happening.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
you would do well not to try this, especially with a retcon and powering back up happening.

Do it, do it!

I'll even judge!

Since I hold in my opinion that both participants are douchebags(regardless of their actual status of douchebaggery or not), I can't be biased! .

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
you would do well not to try this, especially with a retcon and powering back up happening. Come on nver. I have faith in thanos. Dont tell me you are doubting darkseid now that you have seen darthgoobers take on things. This battle we would have is for keeps. Majority wins. Two posters enter and one leaves. Wouldnt this be awesome if the loser had to leave kmc for good.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Come on nver. I have faith in thanos. Dont tell me you are doubting darkseid now that you have seen darthgoobers take on things. This battle we would have is for keeps. Majority wins. Two posters enter and one leaves. Wouldnt this be awesome if the loser had to leave kmc for good.

Make it a stipulation of the match! Do it! Do it!

Either Nvr's gone or Quanchi is!

No matter who loses, KMC wins!

.

Originally posted by Soljer
Do it, do it!

I'll even judge!

Since I hold in my opinion that both participants are douchebags(regardless of their actual status of douchebaggery or not), I can't be biased! .

I'd rather swim thru liquid fire with dynamite tied to my balls than have you sit in judgement over me.

Originally posted by Soljer
Make it a stipulation of the match! Do it! Do it!

Either Nvr's gone or Quanchi is!

No matter who loses, KMC wins!

. It would be legendary wouldnt it? The loser to leave for good. And quit insulting us, it really isnt needed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Come on nver. I have faith in thanos. Dont tell me you are doubting darkseid now that you have seen darthgoobers take on things. This battle we would have is for keeps. Majority wins. Two posters enter and one leaves. Wouldnt this be awesome if the loser had to leave kmc for good.

I will not ruin the fun of everyone calling you retard by making you leave.

I call judge if it happens if no one objects

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I will not ruin the fun of everyone calling you retard by making you leave.

I'll be damned.

Never imagined nvr would wuss out of a chance of banishing quanchi...

Originally posted by Kurash
I call judge if it happens if no one objects Like you dont want me gone.

Originally posted by Soljer
I'll be damned.

Never imagined nvr would wuss out of a chance of banishing quanchi...

Gays are sissies.















shock

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I will not ruin the fun of everyone calling you retard by making you leave. Quit bashing.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Gays are sissies.















shock

Defend your sexuality, damnit!

Ok, But let's wait till after the death of the new gods, so i can come fully prepared. Coming out soon. Or is that too long of a wait? What stips would there be? And i'm not going for a perma ban on either of us. I say one month of self exile.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Ok, But let's wait till after the death of the new gods, so i can come fully prepared. Coming out soon. Or is that too long of a wait? What stips would there be? And i'm not going for a perma ban on either of us. I say one month of self exile. Ok when is that. And ill have to wait till its over and done wit so i can download it. I have many of ds appearances but dont have the 7 soldiers stuff or anything after it.

This can be a future battle. No rush on my part.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Ok, But let's wait till after the death of the new gods, so i can come fully prepared. Coming out soon. Or is that too long of a wait? What stips would there be? And i'm not going for a perma ban on either of us. I say one month of self exile.

Go for the date (depending on when you two want the match to be), and stipulations of the rules via PM, and bring it to the Battlezone thread when you're ready.

Also, decide which judges you'll accept, and request them. Obviously, neither of you want me to judge, Quanchi won't accept trickster judging, and Nvr likely won't accept...I dunno, whatever other big Thanos fans there are.

I can't wait!

!

I'll Judge!!

I'm completely neutral.

I'd judge.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'd rather swim thru liquid fire with dynamite tied to my balls than have you sit in judgement over me.
Truth be told nvr you should probably take him up on his offer. There are only a handful of people here on KMC that could actually be impartial in a match between the two of you, and he's one of them. I know he gives you a hard time, but if you look he gives quan just as much shit. As he already said, he doesn't like either of you so he's not going to care enough about who wins to be biased. Along with Soljer, I'd suggest Badabing and Scoobless. Those are the three KMC members who are likely to be fair in a match between you and quan.

I'm really not trying to be a dick or anything by saying that, I just see this being a really popular Battle Zone match so I want to be helpful.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I say one month of self exile. How about 157680000 seconds of self/enforced exile?

I wouldnt be fine with allowing gds or any future ds appearances. The hunger is off limits to and i wont go there. I firmly believe thanos wins this so ill allow his whole history up until a certain point. If we start this debate while the new gods or whatever story ds is in the story is out. So if we do it after countdown ends and once i download and read the main stuff we cannot count anything after that. OK. These are things off the top of my head right now. Im sure youll have some stipulations as well and i may have more but its not like we are doing this thing tomorrow or even next week,right?

Originally posted by Soljer
Go for the date (depending on when you two want the match to be), and stipulations of the rules via PM, and bring it to the Battlezone thread when you're ready.

Also, decide which judges you'll accept, and request them. Obviously, neither of you want me to judge, Quanchi won't accept trickster judging, and Nvr likely won't accept...I dunno, whatever other big Thanos fans there are.

I can't wait!

!

I will not accept anyone judging that is overly pro DC or pro marvel. I also need someone to point me in the direction of where I can download comics so i can actually post. And I need to learn how to post the pic str8 to the screen. and how the hell you guys quote so fast. I will need all of these tools if I am to school the kid.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I will not accept anyone judging that is overly pro DC or pro marvel. I also need someone to point me in the direction of where I can download comics so i can actually post. And I need to learn how to post the pic str8 to the screen. and how the hell you guys quote so fast. I will need all of these tools if I am to school the kid. Fair enough, young grasshopper.

The Smurph will teach you the ways of the KMC Jedi... IF you let me judge.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I will not accept anyone judging that is overly pro DC or pro marvel. I also need someone to point me in the direction of where I can download comics so i can actually post. And I need to learn how to post the pic str8 to the screen. and how the hell you guys quote so fast. I will need all of these tools if I am to school the kid.

Quick quote, imageshack and using the tags.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Truth be told nvr you should probably take him up on his offer. There are only a handful of people here on KMC that could actually be impartial in a match between the two of you, and he's one of them. I know he gives you a hard time, but if you look he gives quan just as much shit. As he already said, he doesn't like either of you so he's not going to care enough about who wins to be biased. Along with Soljer, I'd suggest Badabing and Scoobless. Those are the three KMC members who are likely to be fair in a match between you and quan.

I'm really not trying to be a dick or anything by saying that, I just see this being a really popular Battle Zone match so I want to be helpful.

He's hated me since I been here. That is alooooooooooooong time. I"m an old enemy of his. Like luthor to superman. Quan is like the toyman. newer, shinier, but not as quick. Who do you think he would really rather get rid of. Me of course.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Truth be told nvr you should probably take him up on his offer. There are only a handful of people here on KMC that could actually be impartial in a match between the two of you, and he's one of them. I know he gives you a hard time, but if you look he gives quan just as much shit. As he already said, he doesn't like either of you so he's not going to care enough about who wins to be biased. Along with Soljer, I'd suggest Badabing and Scoobless. Those are the three KMC members who are likely to be fair in a match between you and quan.

I'm really not trying to be a dick or anything by saying that, I just see this being a really popular Battle Zone match so I want to be helpful. Soljer regards "" as a sentence, worthy of a period.

Immediate disqualification.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I will not accept anyone judging that is overly pro DC or pro marvel. I also need someone to point me in the direction of where I can download comics so i can actually post. And I need to learn how to post the pic str8 to the screen. and how the hell you guys quote so fast. I will need all of these tools if I am to school the kid. dammit here

http://zcultfm.com/

Originally posted by Soljer
Quick quote, imageshack and using the tags.
Thanks.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He's hated me since I been here. That is alooooooooooooong time. I"m an old enemy of his. Like luthor to superman. Quan is like the toyman. newer, shinier, but not as quick. Who do you think he would really rather get rid of. Me of course.

Not true.

I honestly don't consider us enemies. I like messing with you because of the way you react, but I actually agree with you fairly often.

You also tend to ignore me far less than quanchi does.

If I have to read 'see the diff.' one more time, I'm going to stab someone in the eye.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He's hated me since I been here. That is alooooooooooooong time. I"m an old enemy of his. Like luthor to superman. Quan is like the toyman. newer, shinier, but not as quick. Who do you think he would really rather get rid of. Me of course. I just post a lot nver. I hope you make the mistake of underestimating me.

Originally posted by Soljer
Not true.

I honestly don't consider us enemies. I like messing with you because of the way you react, but I actually agree with you fairly often.

You also tend to ignore me far less than quanchi does.

If I have to read 'see the diff.' one more time, I'm going to stab someone in the eye.

Ok we can do this Saturday. that way I can devote full attention to the battle. it gives me time to learn quotes and down load comics and whatever else. You in quan? I soldier, martian, and snazz are the judges.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Ok we can do this Saturday. that way I can devote full attention to the battle. it gives me time to learn quotes and down load comics and whatever else. You in quan? I soldier, martian, and snazz are the judges.

So...tomorrow?

Or the day after?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He's hated me since I been here. That is alooooooooooooong time. I"m an old enemy of his. Like luthor to superman. Quan is like the toyman. newer, shinier, but not as quick. Who do you think he would really rather get rid of. Me of course.
Well even if you don't use him, you should still consider Bada and Scoob. but I honestly think that Soljer would be ok. Like he said himself, NEITHER of you want him to be a judge, which means he's the best one for the job in a case like this.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I just post a lot nver. I hope you make the mistake of underestimating me.
I don't underestimate you. i think you are a brilliant troll. And I also think you are bran who is out to get revenge on me. So trust me, I'm well aware of who you are and the brilliance of your scheme. There has never been a poster in the history of KMC to cause the drama that you do. Congrats, you have taken my crown. Under the guise of being here for fun.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Well even if you don't use him, you should still consider Bada and Scoob. but I honestly think that Soljer would be ok. Like he said himself, NEITHER of you want him to be a judge, which means he's the best one for the job in a case like this.

I think he accepted me.

That is, if he meant Soljer by I Soldier.

.

Oh another quick note ill have to figure out whose battlezone im doing first as well. I was going to argue thanos with the heart of the universe against air legends pretcon's beyonder. But truth be told i came here to find me some darkseid fans. This is my first internet forum and i have taught myself what a lot of these internet terms meant. For one reason most despise me and would rather tell me to jump off a cliff than help me.

But i have never cared for internet popularity. I am here on a mission, to prove for once and for all that thanos is and always has been superior to darkseid. I hope you do bring your best to the table nver cuz ive been waiting for this opportunity for a long while.

Originally posted by Soljer
I think he accepted me.

That is, if he meant Soljer by I Soldier.

.

yeah, you know my spelling is shit and I don't give a damn. yes you. one of the banes of my time on kmc. You will sit in judgment. i now have to go get the tnt ready to tie to my balls as I swim thru liquid fire.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Oh another quick note ill have to figure out whose battlezone im doing first as well. I was going to argue thanos with the heart of the universe against air legends pretcon's beyonder. But truth be told i came here to find me some darkseid fans. This is my first internet forum and i have taught myself what a lot of these internet terms meant. For one reason most despise me and would rather tell me to jump off a cliff than help me.

But i have never cared for internet popularity. I am here on a mission, to prove for once and for all that thanos is and always has been superior to darkseid. I hope you do bring your best to the table nver cuz ive been waiting for this opportunity for a long while.

Did you accept his nomination of the judges?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
yeah, you know my spelling is shit and I don't give a damn. yes you. one of the banes of my time on kmc. You will sit in judgment. i now have to go get the tnt ready to tie to my balls as I swim thru liquid fire.

I never knew I was such a strong (though negative) influence on your enjoyment of KMC.

You actually add to mine. .

Originally posted by quanchi112
Oh another quick note ill have to figure out whose battlezone im doing first as well. I was going to argue thanos with the heart of the universe against air legends pretcon's beyonder. But truth be told i came here to find me some darkseid fans. This is my first internet forum and i have taught myself what a lot of these internet terms meant. For one reason most despise me and would rather tell me to jump off a cliff than help me.

But i have never cared for internet popularity. I am here on a mission, to prove for once and for all that thanos is and always has been superior to darkseid. I hope you do bring your best to the table nver cuz ive been waiting for this opportunity for a long while.

yes Bran. Thanos is a superior character. that i haven't ever argued. Is he more powerful. Not in the slightest.

Bran?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
yes Bran. Thanos is a superior character. that i haven't ever argued. Is he more powerful. Not in the slightest.
Quanchi is not Bran.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I don't underestimate you. i think you are a brilliant troll. And I also think you are bran who is out to get revenge on me. So trust me, I'm well aware of who you are and the brilliance of your scheme. There has never been a poster in the history of KMC to cause the drama that you do. Congrats, you have taken my crown. Under the guise of being here for fun. Again nver i dont know who bran is but i can assure you this is my first internet forum. A troll wouldnt go to the lenghts of reading comics and posting scans here and there to support his or her claims Think im bran all you want. There is only one quanchi112 and wherever i go ull see that screen name. It wont change.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
yes Bran. Thanos is a superior character. that i haven't ever argued. Is he more powerful. Not in the slightest. again im not bran and have no idea who u are talking about.

No offense meant to Quanchi by this, but Bran always conducted himself in a manner that indicated an intelligence and cleverness that Quanchi simply seems incapable of.

Originally posted by Soljer
Bran? You haven't noticed his absence lately?

Originally posted by Soljer
I never knew I was such a strong (though negative) influence on your enjoyment of KMC.

You actually add to mine. .
Of course. We all need enemies. Quan has added pure delight to many a late night on here when i was bored to tears. You have also been a nice brick wall for me to bang my head against. none of you hold a candle to the most hated one. he irks me so, I miss him. I guess he left cuz i proved that thanos wasn't God. LMAO.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Of course. We all need enemies. Quan has added pure delight to many a late night on here when i was bored to tears. You have also been a nice brick wall for me to bang my head against. none of you hold a candle to the most hated one. he irks me so, I miss him. I guess he left cuz i proved that thanos wasn't God. LMAO. If you're referring to Bran, he actually admitted that Darkseid was superior, long before he left.

Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
You haven't noticed his absence lately?

Sure I have, definitely don't think it's quanchi, though.

Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
If you're referring to Bran, he actually admitted that Darkseid was superior, long before he left.

No. Bran was never the most hated one. he was 2nd too. But he's back now. Got himself a cute new name to boot. LOL. Quan is no silly birdy. he got Esti banned, got me banned. I know a sneaky devil bran when I see one. And I was talking about the other most hated one. The one who gets diarreah at the keyboard and just starts shitting scans and repost all over the place.

Originally posted by Soljer
No offense meant to Quanchi by this, but Bran always conducted himself in a manner that indicated an intelligence and cleverness that Quanchi simply seems incapable of. no offense.

how is this not meant to offend. dont know who bran is. again ur opinion of me is irrelevant. I choose to respond quickly and effectively in mulitple posts in a minute. So forgive me if i misspell a word or forget a period professor. I mean iIhope i dont flunk kmc 101.

Originally posted by Soljer
Sure I have, definitely don't think it's quanchi, though. Because Bran would never adopt the guise of a troll to cause havoc in a forum and piss off Nvr?

Oh wait...

Spread the paranoia

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No. Bran was never the most hated one. he was 2nd too. But he's back now. Got himself a cute new name to boot. LOL. Quan is no silly birdy. he got Esti banned, got me banned. I know a sneaky devil bran when I see one. And I was talking about the other most hated one. The one who gets diarreah at the keyboard and just starts shitting scans and repost all over the place. Mr. Master?

He's not the worst for reposts though... that honor goes to David Richards, who rarely uses scans.

Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
If you're referring to Bran, he actually admitted that Darkseid was superior, long before he left. Blasphemy. who is this guy and why does nver insist im him. He obviously hated nver but why. What started the feud. What would they argue over? Which characters?

Smurf is the slowesyt PM answerer.

EVER.

Originally posted by quanchi112
no offense.

how is this not meant to offend. dont know who bran is. again ur opinion of me is irrelevant. I choose to respond quickly and effectively in mulitple posts in a minute. So forgive me if i misspell a word or forget a period professor. I mean iIhope i dont flunk kmc 101.

you haven't even read the hand book. you failed when you walked into class. Wore the wrong outfit, brought the wrong pencil, and forgot your glasses.

Originally posted by quanchi112
no offense.

how is this not meant to offend. dont know who bran is. again ur opinion of me is irrelevant. I choose to respond quickly and effectively in mulitple posts in a minute. So forgive me if i misspell a word or forget a period professor. I mean iIhope i dont flunk kmc 101.

It isn't meant to offend because saying that someone isn't as intelligent as Stephen Hawking isn't an insult.

It's my opinion that bran was/is more intelligent than you are, or, at least, conducted himself in a manner that dictated a higher level of intelligence than you usually do.

Just via grammar, syntax, skills in debate, logical connectives and et cetera.

It isn't an insult. Merely an opinion made off my observations.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Blasphemy. who is this guy and why does nver insist im him. He obviously hated nver but why. What started the feud. What would they argue over? Which characters? Nvr was jealous of Bran's e-persona. Bran said "Oh no you di-int!", and Nvr instigated a cyber driveby. Ever since, it's always just been another "Oh, snap!"

Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
Mr. Master?

He's not the worst for reposts though... that honor goes to David Richards, who rarely uses scans.

No, Mister master will repost his own shit in a hundred freaking threads. he needs something to stop his E-Diarreah.

Speaking of new screen names: Does somebody know who Illagrok is?

Is he a new poster, or someone who just changed his moniker? I may be out of the loop, but he seems to be in a lot respect threads posting scans.. and I never heard of him till recently.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
you haven't even read the hand book. you failed when you walked into class. Wore the wrong outfit, brought the wrong pencil, and forgot your glasses. This from the selfadmitted biased one. This from the guy who thinks its his duty to protect and safegaurd the honor of dc under attack from marvelites.



Here is warning to nver. You call me stupid and most on here do when they disagree with me but DONT YOU DARE LOSE TO ME BECUZ YOU WONT LIVE IT DOWN. IF THE GENERAL CONSENSUS ON HERE IS QUANS AN IDIOT DO YOU WANT TO LOSE TO QUAN.

i leave you with that little mind game and the fact u have everything to lose to me and nothing to gain.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No. Bran was never the most hated one. he was 2nd too. But he's back now. Got himself a cute new name to boot. LOL. Quan is no silly birdy. he got Esti banned, got me banned. I know a sneaky devil bran when I see one. And I was talking about the other most hated one. The one who gets diarreah at the keyboard and just starts shitting scans and repost all over the place.
I don't think so nvr. I know bran and there's no way he'd adopt a persona like quan to go after you. IF quans a sock, I suspect he's been around for a LONG time(a lot longer than bran anyway).