desak vs tyrant (depowered)

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lordboo
who wins this?

llagrok
Desak

Utrigita
I have a hard time gauging desak's level of power but he never stood out to me like being Thanos superior ore Tyrant for that matter erm

What are you basing your conclusion on Ilagrok???

llagrok
Originally posted by Utrigita
I have a hard time gauging desak's level of power but he never stood out to me like being Thanos superior ore Tyrant for that matter erm

What are you basing your conclusion on Ilagrok???

He took the entire odinforce without a scratch.

Utrigita
Didn't he "just" absorb it??? The way I see it thor uses it against him not the entire force but Desak rather continuesly draws it out of Thor against his will

llagrok
Originally posted by Utrigita
Didn't he "just" absorb it??? The way I see it thor uses it against him not the entire force but Desak rather continuesly draws it out of Thor against his will

Thor attacked with it, and Desak absorbed it.

The only way to actually kill Desak is by using a magical weapon such as the Bloodaxe or Mjolnir. Unless Tyrant has a weapon like this, Desak would win.

Priest
Originally posted by llagrok
He took the entire odinforce without a scratch.
he did that cause he's built to fight gods, im not sure how he'll do against a high tier Cosmic erm

llagrok
Originally posted by Priest
he did that cause he's built to fight gods, im not sure how he'll do against a high tier Cosmic erm

Whether they're gods or not has nothing to do with it at all.

His mistress was just fooling him.

Utrigita
Originally posted by llagrok
Thor attacked with it, and Desak absorbed it.

The only way to actually kill Desak is by using a magical weapon such as the Bloodaxe or Mjolnir. Unless Tyrant has a weapon like this, Desak would win.

I see a difference in absorbing the Odin Force from a God a "specie" that you was created to battle and to fight a user with the Power Cosmic that can produce any effect they wishes.

What you are saying is basically that Galactus wouldn't have a chance aginst him because he doesn't have a magical weapon...

llagrok
Originally posted by Utrigita
I see a difference in absorbing the Odin Force from a God a "specie" that you was created to battle and to fight a user with the Power Cosmic that can produce any effect they wishes.

What you are saying is basically that Galactus wouldn't have a chance aginst him because he doesn't have a magical weapon...

Galactus can probably overload him. DP Tyrant doesn't have any feats that puts him above the Odinforce.

Like I said earlier, Desak's powers work against anymore. It's just that his mistress (Who ironically was a goddess) tried to get him to eliminate ever god, in order to empower her further and so on. Desak was just a poor misguided fool.

Utrigita
Originally posted by llagrok
Galactus can probably overload him. DP Tyrant doesn't have any feats that puts him above the Odinforce.

Like I said earlier, Desak's powers work against anymore. It's just that his mistress (Who ironically was a goddess) tried to get him to eliminate ever god, in order to empower her further and so on. Desak was just a poor misguided fool.

No but there is a difference between The Odinforce and the Power Cosmic, the Odinforce is a limited supply (Odin Sleep) the other is practically limitless (to some it is, Galactus is a special case, But Tyrant didn't display any signs of losing Energy in his fights.)

I would also like to know how you are planning on having Desak killing Tyrant because during his fight with Galactus it was obvious that cutting hitting etc wasn't doing any good.

Against every God you mean because thats basically all that he fought to say that he from that knowlegde can absorb PC is maybe to overstep a bit IMO. Didn't know the last part though.

llagrok
Originally posted by Utrigita
No but there is a difference between The Odinforce and the Power Cosmic, the Odinforce is a limited supply (Odin Sleep) the other is practically limitless (to some Galactus for instance But Tyrant didn't display any signs of losing Energy.)

I would also like to know how you are planning on having Desak killing Tyrant because during his fight with Galactus it was obvious that cutting hitting etc wasn't doing any good.

Against every God you mean. Didn't know the last part though.

Just because there's not a limit to the power cosmic, doesn't mean that Tyrant would be able to draw upon it without ever waning or weakening. He would tire, and I doubt the amount of energy he's been able to pour into Desak by then matches that of the Odinforce.

Also, note that he absorbs the energy and uses it. He's not pushed back or anything, he can keep going. How the hell do you reckon Tyrant has any way of stopping Desak?

Utrigita
Originally posted by llagrok
Just because there's not a limit to the power cosmic, doesn't mean that Tyrant would be able to draw upon it without ever waning or weakening. He would tire, and I doubt the amount of energy he's been able to pour into Desak by then matches that of the Odinforce.

Also, note that he absorbs the energy and uses it. He's not pushed back or anything, he can keep going. How the hell do you reckon Tyrant has any way of stopping Desak?

He didn't show any sighs off doing it now did he so I suppose he doesn't tire easily, since the Power Cosmic can constantly substain you. As for the odin Force it depends on a number of factors.

Hitting him, I have seen Thanos taking a blast from Odin (odinforce) without moving a eyelash and seen the same Thanos getting blasted by Tyrant (PC) taking a airtrip. So to say that the Odin Force = PC isn't really supported in this instance.

llagrok
Originally posted by Utrigita
He didn't show any sighs off doing it now did he so I suppose he doesn't tire easily, since the Power Cosmic can constantly substain you. As for the odin Force it depends on a number of factors.

Hitting him, I have seen Thanos taking a blast from Odin (odinforce) without moving a eyelash and seen the same Thanos getting blasted by Tyrant (PC) taking a airtrip. So to say that the Odin Force = PC isn't really supported in this instance.

I've also seen Thanos get blasted by the odinforce and get sent through Asgard. Odin channels the odinforce through Gungnir, so your comparison is both moot and bullshit.

Don't try that out of context bullshit again.

Bad Ash231
Odin wasn't even trying in his fight with Thanos. 131fist

TricksterPriest
Guys, stop arguing. roll eyes (sarcastic) The problem here is, Desak's best showings are against gods, something he was made to be able to beat.

Based on that, he probably loses to Tyrant.

llagrok
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Guys, stop arguing. roll eyes (sarcastic) The problem here is, Desak's best showings are against gods, something he was made to be able to beat.

Based on that, he probably loses to Tyrant.

You obviously didn't read the story.

Desak wasn't made at all. He was a regular grey man, who was given power by his "mistress"

TricksterPriest
Scans please?

guy222
Originally posted by lordboo
who wins this?

Tyrant FTW

Tyrant had Galactus beat.

Desak is over the Gods

Lets see

Tyrant prolly = Galactus>Desak>Odin

llagrok
Tyrant isn't Galactus' equal in a depowered state.

guy222
Originally posted by llagrok
Tyrant isn't Galactus' equal in a depowered state.

Tyrant had Big G beat

First time they fought, Tyrant lost

Utrigita
Originally posted by llagrok
I've also seen Thanos get blasted by the odinforce and get sent through Asgard. Odin channels the odinforce through Gungnir, so your comparison is both moot and bullshit.

Don't try that out of context bullshit again.

No it isn't, its a well known fact that Gungnir enhances the Odin Force when its being channeled through Gungnir, also you are forgetting that the second time Thanos waded right through the Odin Force and graped Gungnir. I didn't see him wading through anything Tyrant through at him which is the Power Cosmic. Also Thanos himself normally refuses calling upon the PC since he know he will lose control this would implicate that the PC is a far more dangerous source to draw from then the Odin Force which is magical in nature.

Out of Context?? Clean before you own door before you clean before others.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Utrigita
No it isn't, its a well known fact that Gungnir enhances the Odin Force when its being channeled through Gungnir, also you are forgetting that the second time Thanos waded right through the Odin Force and graped Gungnir. I didn't see him wading through anything Tyrant through at him which is the Power Cosmic. Also Thanos himself normally refuses calling upon the PC since he know he will lose control this would implicate that the PC is a far more dangerous source to draw from then the Odin Force which is magical in nature.

Out of Context?? Clean before you own door before you clean before others. laughing

Sundipped
I don't even see Desak in the Destroyer Armor beating Tyrant.

quanchi112
tyrant wins this.

tyrant >odin

llagrok
Originally posted by Utrigita
No it isn't, its a well known fact that Gungnir enhances the Odin Force when its being channeled through Gungnir, also you are forgetting that the second time Thanos waded right through the Odin Force and graped Gungnir. I didn't see him wading through anything Tyrant through at him which is the Power Cosmic. Also Thanos himself normally refuses calling upon the PC since he know he will lose control this would implicate that the PC is a far more dangerous source to draw from then the Odin Force which is magical in nature.

Out of Context?? Clean before you own door before you clean before others.

Well known fact? I'd like to see a scan where that's mentioned.

It doesn't make a difference whether it's power that comes from Gods or not, that was something Tarene used to trick Desak because she needed him to defeat King Thor and stop the reigning. He can absorb and direct any form of energy with his amulet. And since Tyrant is like Galactus and needs to consume planets in order to survive, he wouldn't be capable of defeating Desak.

And you have no way of measuring up the amount of energy Odin used against the amount of energy Tyrant used, so comparing those two is just ridiculous.

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by quanchi112
tyrant >odin

Why?



Because Thanos' spandex was wrecked more in battle with Tyrant than Odin? no expression

Sundipped
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Why?



Because Thanos' spandex was wrecked more in battle with Tyrant than Odin? no expression

It shouldn't even be in question why? Thanos's spandex lasted way longer against Odin than Tyrant. More importantly Thanos admitted that Tyrant could kill him. Not so with Odin. He still wanted to fight.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Sundipped
It shouldn't even be in question why? Thanos's spandex lasted way longer against Odin than Tyrant. More importantly Thanos admitted that Tyrant could kill him. Not so with Odin. He still wanted to fight. exactly thanos booked in his sjhorter fight with tyrant while he still wanted to fight with odin. and the odin fight lasted much longer and thanos looked much better.

guy222
Originally posted by quanchi112
exactly thanos booked in his sjhorter fight with tyrant while he still wanted to fight with odin. and the odin fight lasted much longer and thanos looked much better.

Odin vs Thanos/Surfer/Drax

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Bad Ash231
Originally posted by guy222
Odin vs Thanos/Surfer/Drax

http://www.picsaway.com/thumbs/12_warlock_25_20-f2344f21e6.jpg http://www.picsaway.com/thumbs/12_warlock_25_21-b438c4d815.jpg http://www.picsaway.com/thumbs/12_warlock_25_22-98375fb430.jpg http://www.picsaway.com/thumbs/12_warlock_25_23-5d2a881f1a.jpg http://www.picsaway.com/thumbs/12_warlock_25_24-37285a713c.jpg

Odin wasn't even trying. shifty

guy222
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UniOmni
For once i agree with Trickster.

Desak was made to take down gods, by taking their energies with a smile.

Tyrant would tear him apart.
Or just render him immobile.

Harry Fingerman
Originally posted by UniOmni
For once i agree with Trickster.
Ew...

Does this make you infected?

guy222
Last ones

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Utrigita
Originally posted by llagrok
Well known fact? I'd like to see a scan where that's mentioned.

It doesn't make a difference whether it's power that comes from Gods or not, that was something Tarene used to trick Desak because she needed him to defeat King Thor and stop the reigning. He can absorb and direct any form of energy with his amulet. And since Tyrant is like Galactus and needs to consume planets in order to survive, he wouldn't be capable of defeating Desak.

And you have no way of measuring up the amount of energy Odin used against the amount of energy Tyrant used, so comparing those two is just ridiculous.

Can he channel his power through the OdinSword yes, is it therefore fully possible to assume that he can channel his Energy through the Gungnir with the same result yes

Link to prove it (taken from the handbooks) (characters, Odin, Gungnir)
http://www.immortalthor.net/

So you are basing his showings against Gods to say that he can resist the use of the Power Cosmic???
Tyrant doesn't need Planets in order to survive it was Full Powered Tyrant that had that restriction to my knowlegde Depowered didn't show that he needed to absorb energy from Planets there presence alone replenish him. While Odin loses energy while fighting.

I'm Not trying to compare the energyoutput in any way I'm comparing a user of the Power Cosmic and a User of the Odin Force, results against a commen foe. I'm Not trying to start a Tyrant vs Odin thread.

Utrigita
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Ew...

Does this make you infected?

Welcome back Harry

Utrigita
Thanks for posting the fight Guy big grin

guy222
Originally posted by Utrigita
Thanks for posting the fight Guy big grin

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