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Okay, here's the idea:

Who would win in a battle between a trained GL (say, Kyle Rayner) with one ring, and a non-trained GL (say, Spider-Man) with ten rings and a month's prep?

In other words, is the number of rings more important than the depth/breadth of training and experience with them?

Ah,no.

I think more rings means more power in a very generalised sense but I think Kyle would win for have a greater mastery over it.

Why couldn't this have gone in the comic book questions thread?

Originally posted by shksprtx
Okay, here's the idea:

Who would win in a battle between a trained GL (say, Kyle Rayner) with one ring, and a non-trained GL (say, Spider-Man) with ten rings and a month's prep?

In other words, is the number of rings more important than the depth/breadth of training and experience with them?

kyle wins

Originally posted by shksprtx
In other words, is the number of rings more important than the depth/breadth of training and experience with them?
No.

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Originally posted by Validus
No.

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I was just about to bring that up.

I'd tend to think Spidey would do better with a GL ring, then he would with a yellow ring...

A yellow ring requires a certain mastery of fear to 'open it up' --- Fear is something I don't see the Spidey we all know and love, being able to master/exploit, .


IMO, he would do much better controlling the generalized 'power of will' required to unlock a GL ring's power.


srug

Lantern rings are based off of confidence, no?

Spidey is known for second guessing himself. I don't see him being too useful with a Lantern ring, either.

Originally posted by Galan007
I'd tend to think Spidey would do better with a GL ring, then he would with a yellow ring...

A yellow ring requires a certain mastery of fear to 'open it up' --- Fear is something I don't see the Spidey we all know and love, being able to master/exploit, .


IMO, he would do much better controlling the generalized 'power of will' required to unlock a GL ring's power.


srug
He'd do better but a master GL like Hal or Kyle would still be able to shut him down like Sinestro did to Hal there. John Stewart has done something like that before to rookie Lanterns.

Originally posted by Validus
He'd do better but a master GL like Hal or Kyle would still be able to shut him down like Sinestro did to Hal there. John Stewart has done something like that before to rookie Lanterns. Ohh Don't get me wrong, Kyle would still wipe his ass with Spidey...

I just think Spidey would do better against him with a GL ring, instead of a SC ring.

Originally posted by Soljer
Lantern rings are based off of confidence, no?


I think it's willpower actually

Master Kyle wins this.

Spiderman gets squashed, hah.

Originally posted by willRules
I think it's willpower actually

You know what I meant. A Green Lantern who isn't confident in his abilities will not be able to utilize them.

Fair enough

I think having a bunch of rings would only help you in the sense that you'd think you're going to get more juice out of it and that would help some psychologically but I doubt it'd help that much.

My whole point is, and maybe this DOES belong in the Comic Book Questions thread, why do so many Versus Forum fights allow a non-GL/Sinestro member a whole bunch of rings with some limited prep...does the NUMBER of rings one possesses actually affect the amount of power one controls?

I think it means that the GL can use each ring's charge. I'd guess it's not so much more powerful, more of an additional weapon Like having two guns as opposed to one. It's an extra weapon full of ammo.

Originally posted by shksprtx
My whole point is, and maybe this DOES belong in the Comic Book Questions thread, why do so many Versus Forum fights allow a non-GL/Sinestro member a whole bunch of rings with some limited prep...does the NUMBER of rings one possesses actually affect the amount of power one controls?

No.

It's a common error that many assume that More Rings = More Power. You would only get minor boost and that would be from your own confidence at the fact that you BELIEVE your stronger due to the amount of rings.

Ie : Your own Ignorance powers your confidence which powers teh rings.

That makes sense

Originally posted by grey fox
No.

It's a common error that many assume that More Rings = More Power. You would only get minor boost and that would be from your own confidence at the fact that you BELIEVE your stronger due to the amount of rings.

Ie : Your own Ignorance powers your confidence which powers teh rings.

So Hal is an idiot?

And cyborg carries 10 rings around for fun.

Originally posted by llagrok
So Hal is an idiot?
No but the person who wrote that story is.

Originally posted by Validus
No but the person who wrote that story is.

Don't talk about Dan Jurgens that way, douche.

Originally posted by grey fox
It's a common error that many assume that More Rings = More Power. You would only get minor boost and that would be from your own confidence at the fact that you BELIEVE your stronger due to the amount of rings. I like it.

It's kind of like Baseball players with corked bats.

Statistics show that in a corked bat vs. normal bat scenario, a corked bat doesn't help the batter gain very much distance at all.

But the mental edge said batter has when he gets up to the plate, thinking he has some kind of 'super-bat'... Well that's what really helps that batter hit home runs, more than anything.



More to the point,

When Hal Jordan initially went on his 'GL killing spree', he didn't necessarily want a bunch of rings because they would give him a tremendous power boost --- He wanted several rings because the power supply of his one ring just wasn't enough to do what he wanted to do, .

Originally posted by Galan007
I like it.

It's kind of like Baseball players with corked bats.

Statistics show that in a corked bat vs. normal bat scenario, a corked bat doesn't help the batter gain very much distance at all.

But the mental edge said batter has when he gets up to the plate, thinking he has some kind of 'super-bat'... Well that's what really helps that batter hit home runs, more than anything.



More to the point,

When Hal Jordan initially went on his 'GL killing spree', he didn't necessarily want a bunch of rings because they would give him a tremendous power boost --- He wanted several rings because the power supply of his one ring just wasn't enough to do what he wanted to do, .
Then why did he again grab a bunch of rings if it doesnt make much of a difference,and why does cyborg use 8-10 rings if it doesnt change anything?

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Then why did he again grab a bunch of rings if it doesnt make much of a difference. Because his one ring ran out of juice too quickly for Hal to do what he wanted to do.

Did I not just explain this in my above post?

Originally posted by Galan007
Because his one ring ran out of juice too quickly for Hal to do what he wanted to do.

Did I not just explain this in my above post?
Because it doesnt make sense,if you can do something with one ring why cant you do the same thing 2x with 2 rings that is what would make sense not just having more energy to draw on.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Because it doesnt make sense,if you can do something with one ring why cant you do the same thing 2x with 2 rings that is what would make sense not just having more energy to draw on. Let me put it this way...

Someone with 10 rings isn't 10x more powerful then someone with 1 ring --- All that really gives them is longer lasting energies.

I'm basing this solely from what I've seen on panel.

Hal with yellow rings is not = to Sinestro... with yellow rings... green rings are based off willpower... yellow off how you can manipulate fear...

ie... if you gave two rings to two different people.. you'd get two different results...
example batman vs superman... two geniuses... great heroes in their own right... but batman is a master at instilling fear.. where as supes is pure of heart... hal is a newbie when it comes to manipulating fear.

As for the 10 rings answer... you're attacks may not be more "powerful" but there are more of them. a bullet does a bullets damage... but 10 bullets vs 1 bullets... means more chances to damage someone.

generally skill wins with the rings.... however if the newbie is someone like batman.. a genius... with high will power... high ability to manipulate fear... watchout.

Originally posted by batdude123
Don't talk about Dan Jurgens that way, douche.
Jurgens didn't write Emerald Twilight.

Originally posted by rotiart
generally skill wins with the rings.... however if the newbie is someone like batman.. a genius... with high will power... high ability to manipulate fear... watchout.
The newbie would still need training. Batman with all his so called willpower could barely maniuplate Hal's ring.
Originally posted by Galan007
More to the point,

When Hal Jordan initially went on his 'GL killing spree', he didn't necessarily want a bunch of rings because they would give him a tremendous power boost --- He wanted several rings because the power supply of his one ring just wasn't enough to do what he wanted to do, .
I think it was explained in Rebirth that Hal was under the influence of Parallax who wanted him to wear more rings to increase their connection with one another.

Originally posted by Validus
I think it was explained in Rebirth that Hal was under the influence of Parallax who wanted him to wear more rings to increase their connection with one another. Really? Never read Rebirth myself, but I guess that was a good way to tie in the Parallax entities' responsibility for Hal's rampage, so less people could put the blame solely on him.

Well in any rate, more rings doesn't necessarily = more overall power, just an extended amount of time in which to use said power IMO.


You're the GL guy, how's that sound to you?

Originally posted by Validus
Jurgens didn't write Emerald Twilight.

I was thinking of Zero Hour. doped