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defenders original team
Hulk (Savage Hulk)
Surfer (Surfer before his upgrade by galactus in annihilation)
Strange
Namor

Omega Flight
Sasquatch
Talisman
Gardian
Beta Ray Bill
Us Agent
Arachne

fight take place in canada in the middle of the street.

Defenders with ease. Hulk can fet the number of Sasquach anywhere, everywhere, at anytime. The most powerful weapon of the Omega Flight is the the Noble Horse Face, but again, Hulk could counteract him. On the other hand, does the Omega Flight have an answer to a speed-traveling and most powerful herald, or against the Supreme Sorceror?

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Defenders with ease. Hulk can fet the number of Sasquach anywhere, everywhere, at anytime. The most powerful weapon of the Omega Flight is the the Noble Horse Face, but again, Hulk could counteract him. On the other hand, does the Omega Flight have an answer to a speed-traveling and most powerful herald, or against the Supreme Sorceror?

My guess your not to familar with Talisman, the new Guardian or even Sasquatch .

Bill is not the strongest member, far from it. Also Silver Surfer NEVER uses his super speed in battles, traveling speed does not equal fighting speed.

New Guardian, current Talisman, and current Sasquatch are relatively unknown in terms of power.

Sure, Talisman says she is not as powerful as before, but even in her inexperienced youth Strange labeled her a force to be reckoned with...

New Guardian is simply an unknown. How much of his power is the suit and how much is his was never really made clear, but he seemed a real badass in the OF mini.

As for Sas, yeah he got beat down by an amped Wrecking Crew, but he also withstood a planet-shattering hit from BRB. There's no telling where he's at right now, with or without help from Tanaraq.

Thus, I call this a stalemate at the moment.

Defenders should win, based on established feats, but there are so many variables with the new OF...

bump

Omega Flight (just to inflate Mungi's pride).

Defenders. Just to deflate Mungi's pride.

Without Tanaraq, they are ****ed. I mean... Does Talisman stand a chance against Strange? Does Gardian can be stoped by Namor?

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Without Tanaraq, they are ****ed. I mean... Does Talisman stand a chance against Strange? Does Gardian can be stoped by Namor?

Definetly, it's even stated their equals. Oh my, even classic Guardian would DESTROY Namor

Classic Strange eats alive Talisman. I don't know enough Gardian...

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Classic Strange eats alive Talisman. I don't know enough Gardian...

He really doesn't, even she has controlled skyfather beings because they were from the spirit world. She even has defeated beings Strange couldn't

Guardian has took down a weakened Galactus, when the combined might of Hercules, Quasar, BOX IV, Vindicator II, Windshear, Her, Sersi, Vision couldn't do it.

Gardian pwned Galactus?

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Gardian pwned Galactus?

A drastically weakened Galactus


Battles
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Alpha Flight #100 (Vol.1) or Alpha Flight Special - 4/4: Galactus
Guardian has sent half of the heroes to the Quwrlin homeworld in order to battle Galactus. Just so some don't snap, the Quwrlin rebuilt Mac to go against Galactus and their entire race based their entire purpose on studying Galactus. So it's not farfetched he could take out a weakened Galactus. Also this dimension was messing with Galactus's powers as he couldn't perform cosmic blasts, but still had his physical power and before James steped in it took the combined efforts of Alpha Flight and the Avengers strongest members just to hold him off.

1. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight100-25.jpg
2. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight100-26.jpg
3. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight100-27.jpg
4. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight100-28.jpg

Originally posted by King_Mungi
A drastically weakened Galactus


Battles
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Alpha Flight #100 (Vol.1) or Alpha Flight Special - 4/4: Galactus
Guardian has sent half of the heroes to the Quwrlin homeworld in order to battle Galactus. Just so some don't snap, the Quwrlin rebuilt Mac to go against Galactus and their entire race based their entire purpose on studying Galactus. So it's not farfetched he could take out a weakened Galactus. Also this dimension was messing with Galactus's powers as he couldn't perform cosmic blasts, but still had his physical power and before James steped in it took the combined efforts of Alpha Flight and the Avengers strongest members just to hold him off.

1. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight100-25.jpg
2. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight100-26.jpg
3. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight100-27.jpg
4. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight100-28.jpg


BUT, that's cyborg Guardian, NOT Mailman Mike Guardian...who knows what he can really do?

Originally posted by shksprtx
BUT, that's cyborg Guardian, NOT Mailman Mike Guardian...who knows what he can really do?

Mailman Mike has the same suit as James Hudson, so ideally he should be able to do the exact same thing as him.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Mailman Mike has the same suit as James Hudson, so ideally he should be able to do the exact same thing as him.


No that's not true he was transformed into a cyborg and the suit was a part of his body he would be much more capable in the suit not to mention the added abilities he had from being part machine.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
No that's not true he was transformed into a cyborg and the suit was a part of his body he would be much more capable in the suit not to mention the added abilities he had from being part machine.

I'm talking about classic Guardian, who wore the suit. He could do what cyborg Guardian could do not just on a higher level or quicker.

Even classic Guardian has done vastly impressive things, same with Heather

What the hell am I talking about? Frig, huge brain fart thought this was a Alpha/Omega mix thread. I was wondering why people were mentioning Mike Pointer as I thought this was James Hudson fighting. Disregard my earlier comments.

EDIT:
This is all what Pointer has done since becoming Guardian


Guardian IV
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Energy Blasts
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Alpha Flight #4 of 5:
Micheal Pointer finally joins into the battle and does it in a big way. Wooza, he destroys multiple demons and buildings with single blasts and this is his first outing in the Guardian armor. Quite uber. I highly doubt he could have killed Sasquatch, as even the Collective couldn't and this is a stronger version of Walter to boot.

1. http://s158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/?action=view&current=OmegaF_4_0027.jpg
2. http://s158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/?action=view&current=OmegaF_4_0029.jpg
3. http://s158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/?action=view&current=OmegaF_4_0031.jpg
4. http://s158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/?action=view&current=OmegaF_4_0032.jpg
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Omega Flight #5 of 5:
Here Micheal destroys the dimensional rift that leads to the Realm of the Beasts with a single blast

1. http://s158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/?action=view&current=OmegaFlight_5_0020.jpg
2. http://s158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/?action=view&current=OmegaFlight_5_0021.jpg


We still have yet to get a clear answer to his powers

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Definetly, it's even stated their equals. Oh my, even classic Guardian would DESTROY Namor Say what....Namor...

Originally posted by Hyperion 07
Say what....Namor...

Yes, Guardian would destroy Namor

How?

I know that this thread states the original Defenders, but perhaps to make things a lillte more even why not throw in Helstorm and Valkyrie, what about Hell Cat? What about the Silver Surfer wasn't he one of the originals? If this was the true original Defenders, the line up would be:
1. Dr. Strange
2. Namor
3. The Hulk
4. Silver Surfer
5. Night Hawk
6 Hell Cat
If I remeber correctly.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
I know that this thread states the original Defenders, but perhaps to make things a lillte more even why not throw in Helstorm and Valkyrie, what about Hell Cat? What about the Silver Surfer wasn't he one of the originals? If this was the true original Defenders, the line up would be:
1. Dr. Strange
2. Namor
3. The Hulk
4. Silver Surfer
5. Night Hawk
6 Hell Cat
If I remeber correctly. Yeah....we don't care what you say.

Originally posted by Hyperion 07
Yeah....we don't care what you say.




Well if you don't why reply?

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Well if you don't why reply? To let you know.

Well as I was going to say this would be a better fight if Silver Surfer was included in this fight. The thread does state the original Defenders. And by the way Hyperion if you have a problem with me, you can always put me on ignore.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Well as I was going to say this would be a better fight if Silver Surfer was included in this fight. The thread does state the original Defenders. And by the way Hyperion if you have a problem with me, you can always put me on ignore.

I dislike you but I wasn't even thinking of that.

What does a ninja smiley tell you when someone posts after they're...well post?

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Well as I was going to say this would be a better fight if Silver Surfer was included in this fight. The thread does state the original Defenders. And by the way Hyperion if you have a problem with me, you can always put me on ignore.

It's interesting all this talk about gardian i mean people seem to forget that strange and the surfer are in this battle there feat's trump gaurdian's.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
It's interesting all this talk about gardian i mean people seem to forget that strange and the surfer are in this battle there feat's trump gaurdian's.

No one is saying Guardian can take Strange or Surfer, but he is being underated..vastly

Originally posted by CaptainStoic

1. Dr. Strange
2. Namor
3. The Hulk
4. Silver Surfer
5. Night Hawk
6 Hell Cat
If I remeber correctly.

With this line up I think that the fight would go to the Defenders. Oh and Hyperion you don't know me so why make drama? Live life without strife bro! If you can't maybe you should think of not interacting with people.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
With this line up I think that the fight would go to the Defenders. Oh and Hyperion you don't know me so why make drama? Live life without strife bro! If you can't maybe you should think of not interacting with people. Did you read what I said.

No what does a Ninja Smiley mean when posted after... well a post?

Just let it go.