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Hitman911
Which character has the best chance of knocking off a being TWO TIER'S HIGHER?!?!!? Can it be Done?!?!? Has it been Done?!?!?!?
Debate!!!

Originally posted by illadelph12
Notes:
1. This list is based off of total "power" in all its forms. Individual matchups might mean that someone in a lower tier could beat someone in a higher tier, but we're basing the list on general power levels, not individual matchups.

Current Mainstream Comic Character Tiers


Sub-Skyfather (Transcendent)

Amazo, Appolyon, The Asgardian Destroyer,Black Racer, Blackheart, Blaze, Circe, Count Abyss, Death Urge, Despero, The Doctor, Dr. Fate, Dr. Strange (classic), Eclipso, Elders of the Universe (minus Ego), Fernus, The General (Shaggy Man), Gog, Gray Man, High Evolutionary, Ion (current), Jenny Quantum, The Keeper, King Thor, Magus (original), Mangog, Mongul I (Pre Crisis), Nightmare, Onimar Synn, Onslaught, Queen of Fables, Resurrection Man 1 Million, Sentinel (Alan Scott), Silver Age Kryptonians/Daxamites, Solomon Grundy (Peak), Solusandra, Stayne, Strange Visitor, Sun Eater, Superboy Prime, Superman 1 Million, Takion, Tanaraq, Thanos, Tyrant (powered down), Validus

Herald:

High:
Adam Warlock, Baron Zemo (w/ Moonstones), Cyborg Superman, The Eradicator (Fortress Mode), Genis-Vell, Green Lantern (Hal, Kyle, Alan), Infinity-Man, Majestic, Moonstone (w/ both stones), Qztr, The Sentry, The Silver Surfer, Sinestro, Spartan 3.0, Stardust, Superman (including B/R and AS), Thor, The Void

Middle:
Alexander Nero, Beta Ray Bill, Binary, Black Adam, Black Bolt, Cable (Full Power), Captain Atom, Cpt. Comet,Captain Marvel (DC), Damien Hellstrom, Doomsday, Evinlea, The Fallen One, Firelord, The Flash III (Wally West), The Flash IV (Bart Allen), General Zod, Gladiator, Green Lantern (Guy, John, Katma, Kilowog), Hyperion, Ikaris, Imperiex Probes, Kid Omega, Lobo, Loki, Magus (Post-IG), Martian Manhunter, Maxima, Mon-El, Morg, Nate Grey, Orion, Quasar, Rachel Summers (Phoenix II), Red Shift, Skreet, Supergirl, Supreme, Swamp Thing, Terrax the Tamer, Void, Waverider, Wildfire, Wonder Woman

Low:
Absorbing Man, Air Walker, Animal Man, Apocalypse, Apollo, Argent, The Atom, Aztek, Bizarro Superman, Breach, Cassandra Nova, Cir-El, Count Nefaria, Damage, Darkness, Darwin, Death's Head 3.0, Death Metal, Dr. Doom, Dr. Invincible, Dr. Light, Dr. Polaris, Drax The Destroyer, Engineer, Etrigan, Exodus, Fin Fang Foom, Firestorm, The Flash II (Barry Allen), Gammid, Gamora (w/Godslayer), Gilgamesh, Gorilla Grodd, Graviton, Green Lantern (Soranik Natu), He-Man, Hector Hammond, Hulk, Iceman, Isis, Jade, Jack Hawksmoor (in city), Jack of Hearts, Jericho, Juggernaut (Classic), Kalibak, Lightray, Living Monolith, Lunatik, Magneto, Major Force, Makkari, Man-Beast, Manchester Black, Mar-Vell, Matrix Supergirl, Meggan, Mongul, Monica Rambeau (Pulsar), Mr. M, Nova (Frankie Raye), Nova Richard Rider (current), Plastic Man, Prime, Professor X, Raven, The Ray, Red Tornado, Ronan the Accuser, Saturn Girl, Selene (External), Sersi, Shadow King, Shaman, Starhawk, Super Skrull, Superboy, Tempest, Ultra Boy, Ultra-Humanite, Ultron, Union, Vulcan, Winter, Zauriel,

Metahuman (Mid-tier "Iron Man" level)

High:
Abomination, Adam Strange, Aquaman, Ares (Marvel), Atlas, Aurora, Batman 1 Million, Battalion (Jackson King), Blastaar, Blob, Captain Britain, Captain Marvel Jr, Colossus, Death's Head II, Donna Troy, Emma Frost, Ghost Rider II, Grim Reaper, Guardian I, Havok, Hellstrike, Hercules (Mortal), Holocaust, The Human Torch, Invisible Woman, Iron-Man, Jean Grey (sans Phoenix), Jenny Sparks, Juggernaut (Depowered), Kang, Karate Kid, Living Laser, Mandarin, Mary Marvel, Maul, Mercer Drake, Metallo, Mimic (Exiles), Miss Martian, Mr. Fantastic, Mr. Sinister, Namor the Sub-Mariner, Nightshade, Nimrod, Northstar, Ocean Master, Osiris, Pitt, Polaris, Power Girl, Psylocke, Radioactive Man, Sand, Sasquatch, Shassa, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Supernova, Temugin, The Thing, Thunderstrike, The Tick, Ulik, Ultimo, Vision, War Machine, Wonder Man, Zzaxx

Middle:
Aegis, Atom Smasher, Attuma, Balder, Beast Boy, Bishop, Blink, Blue Beetle (Jamie Reyes), Blue Devil, Bombshell, Booster Gold, Box, Carnage, Cloak, Corrin, Crystal, Cyborg, Cyclops, Death's Head, Death Wreck, Dust, Electro, Elijah Snow, Enchantress, Farenheit, Flint, Fuji, Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze), Ghost Rider(Dan Ketch), Grace Choi, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, Hellion, The Flash I (Jay Garrick), Kymaera/Namorita, Lightning Lad, Matua, M.O.D.O.K., Moonstone, Morlun, Ms. Marvel, Nico Minoru, Ogun, Quicksilver (classic), Ragman, Rogue, rom, Shadowcat, Shift, Steel, Terra, Thunder, Tiger Shark, Toxin, Vance Astro, Vengeance, Wonder Girl,

Low:
3-D Man, Ambrose Chase, Angel, Arachne, Arana, Azrael, Beast, Black Canary, Black Tarantula, Blade, Blue Beetle (Dan Garrett), Bruenor Battlehammer, Century, Charcoal, Charlie 27, Constrictor, Creeper, Cyber, Dagger, Deathlok, Deathstroke the Terminator, Doc Ock, Drizzt Do'Urden, Elixer, Falcon, Firehawk, Gambit, Green Goblin, Hobgoblin, Iron Fist, Jakita Wagner, Karnak, Kid Devil, Killer Croc, Klaw, Lady Deathstrike, Longshot, Luke Cage, Machine Man, Man-Bat, Mercury, Midnighter, Mister Hyde, Molly Hayes, Multiple Man, Mysterio, Mystique, Nightcrawler, Nova Richard Rider (classic), Nuke, Omega Red, Orka Humbug, Prometheus, Protocide, Puck, Puma, Rage, Sabretooth, Shang Chi, Silver Samurai, Speedball, Speedfreek, Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2099, Spider-Woman, Swift, Thunder Cats, Tombstone, Triathalon, Vance Astro, Vanguard, Venom, Vermin, Victor Mancha, Vulture, Warlock (Technarchy/Phalanx), Warpath, Wizard, Wolverine, Wulfgar

Street Level

High:
Bane, Batgirl, Batman, Black Cat, Black Panther, Blacklash, Bronze Tiger, Bullseye, Captain America, The Cat, Constantine Drakon, Daredevil, Elektra, Green Arrow, Hawkeye, Hush, Kingpin, Lady Shiva, Ravager, Red Skull, Richard Dragon, Taskmaster, Union Jack, X-23

Middle:
Red Hood , Arsenal/Red Arrow, Baron Zemo, Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), Crossbones, Deadshot, Echo, Grifter, Joker, Mach IV, Misty Knight, Moon Knight, Nick Fury, Nightwing, Nomad, Peacemaker, Punisher, Ra's Al Ghul, Rose Tattoo, Turok, Wildcat

Low:
Alfred, Batroc, Black Widow, Catwoman, Christine Trelane, Colleen Wing, Night Thrasher, Obregon Kaine, Penguin, The Question, Riddler, Robin, Talia, White TigerSub-Skyfather (Transcendent) Sub-Skyfather (Transcendent)

Grinning Goku
Would Immortal Hercules be Low or Middle Herald tier?

Kurash
NO! To the PAIN!

nvrbeenwthagirl
Zuriel's scream could knock off anyone who's not Dead. Which is why He doesn't use it much.

Harry Fingerman
Black Adam.

He's done it before... maybe not kill though...

Kurash
alfred lol

llagrok
I'm pretty sure Atom Smasher can knock out Xavier.

Soljer
Originally posted by Kurash
alfred lol

Too true.

Alfred would stomp Batman.

DestinyGuy678
black panther with prep time easily

nvrbeenwthagirl
Wonder Woman Can kill a few of the trans beings. A lasso tie and tiara toss and it's good night.

Akuki
Captain britain has beaten plenty of foes far above his level. After all, his rogues gallery includes some of the most powerful characters in comics like MJJ and the Fury even though he only about low-meta.

Kurash
apocalypse . . .

NiņoAraņa
Black Widow could kill Kingpin and maybe Hawkeye with some prep or something....

DigiMark007
Spider-Man

shifty

Muck101
The Tick. Nigh-invulnerability ftw!

Battlehammer
wolverine could take a few of the people two tiers higher.



"waits to be bashed"

Muck101
Tick wins via chimney-throwing.

Soljer
Originally posted by Battlehammer
wolverine could take a few of the people two tiers higher.



"waits to be bashed"

Quite a few, actually.

Then again - those are the kinda people he's MADE to fight.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Soljer
Quite a few, actually.

Then again - those are the kinda people he's MADE to fight.
yup

Endless Mike
Matua killed a Lawbringer

Hitman911
Originally posted by Battlehammer
wolverine could take a few of the people two tiers higher.



"waits to be bashed"
In a dark ally unexpectedly, maybe one or two.
With prep, no f*ckin' way!

Abomination, Adam Strange, Aquaman, Ares (Marvel), Atlas, Aurora, Batman 1 Million, Battalion (Jackson King), Blastaar, Blob, Captain Britain, Captain Marvel Jr, Colossus, Death's Head II, Donna Troy, Emma Frost, Ghost Rider II, Grim Reaper, Guardian I, Havok, Hellstrike, Hercules (Mortal), Holocaust, The Human Torch, Invisible Woman, Iron-Man, Jean Grey (sans Phoenix), Jenny Sparks, Juggernaut (Depowered), Kang, Karate Kid, Living Laser, Mandarin, Mary Marvel, Maul, Mercer Drake, Metallo, Mimic (Exiles), Miss Martian, Mr. Fantastic, Mr. Sinister, Namor the Sub-Mariner, Nightshade, Nimrod, Northstar, Ocean Master, Osiris, Pitt, Polaris, Power Girl, Psylocke, Radioactive Man, Sand, Sasquatch, Shassa, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Supernova, Temugin, The Thing, Thunderstrike, The Tick, Ulik, Ultimo, Vision, War Machine, Wonder Man, Zzaxx
no

Hitman911
Originally posted by llagrok
I'm pretty sure Atom Smasher can knock out Xavier. no Maybe Ghostrider?renske

celestialdemon
Warlock beat Mephisto. Genis-Vell destroyed Eternity (will a little help).

Squirrel Girl beats everyone. laughing

Kurash
omega red

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Hitman911
In a dark ally unexpectedly, maybe one or two.
With prep, no f*ckin' way!

Abomination, Adam Strange, Aquaman, Ares (Marvel), Atlas, Aurora, Batman 1 Million, Battalion (Jackson King), Blastaar, Blob, Captain Britain, Captain Marvel Jr, Colossus, Death's Head II, Donna Troy, Emma Frost, Ghost Rider II, Grim Reaper, Guardian I, Havok, Hellstrike, Hercules (Mortal), Holocaust, The Human Torch, Invisible Woman, Iron-Man, Jean Grey (sans Phoenix), Jenny Sparks, Juggernaut (Depowered), Kang, Karate Kid, Living Laser, Mandarin, Mary Marvel, Maul, Mercer Drake, Metallo, Mimic (Exiles), Miss Martian, Mr. Fantastic, Mr. Sinister, Namor the Sub-Mariner, Nightshade, Nimrod, Northstar, Ocean Master, Osiris, Pitt, Polaris, Power Girl, Psylocke, Radioactive Man, Sand, Sasquatch, Shassa, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Supernova, Temugin, The Thing, Thunderstrike, The Tick, Ulik, Ultimo, Vision, War Machine, Wonder Man, Zzaxx
no

so now they get prep? Wwere did this rule come from?

were talken simply one vs one no prep there are a few on the list he could take. Ares for one , the blob ect

boriquaking55
Adam Warlock wouldn't be that high if it wasn't for that damned Soul Gem. I find he's a bit overrated here

Soljer
Originally posted by boriquaking55
Adam Warlock wouldn't be that high if it wasn't for that damned Soul Gem. I find he's a bit overrated here

Don't make Digi knowledge-slap you...

Burning thought
that list seems a bit face value, ime sure loads of em altho i cant think of any that havnt alrdy been mentioned could take out higher tiers

Hitman911
Originally posted by Battlehammer
so now they get prep? Wwere did this rule come from?

were talken simply one vs one no prep there are a few on the list he could take. Ares for one , the blob ect

WTF could he do to the Blob?

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Hitman911
WTF could he do to the Blob?
stabb him.........The blob can be pierced and has been.


why do I have a feeling im talking to some one who thinks thing would curf stomp Logan...........

boriquaking55
Originally posted by Soljer
Don't make Digi knowledge-slap you...

Oh please - you guys act like I haven't seen the feats a million times. I'm shakin' in my boots roll eyes (sarcastic)

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by boriquaking55
Oh please - you guys act like I haven't seen the feats a million times. I'm shakin' in my boots roll eyes (sarcastic)

Oh...you will be. You will be.

Hitman911
Originally posted by Battlehammer
stabb him.........The blob can be pierced and has been.


why do I have a feeling im talking to some one who thinks thing would curf stomp Logan........... shifty

nimbus006
Drax has a pretty good shot at knocking off Thanos shifty

Hitman911
Originally posted by nimbus006
Drax has a pretty good shot at knocking off Thanos shifty laughing

Hitman911
Where is Darksied??

seaapple
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Spider-Man

shifty

You beat me to it! thumbup1

Except the question was about beating someone two tiers higher, not *four* tiers higher!

wink

Hitman911
Originally posted by seaapple
You beat me to it! thumbup1

Except the question was about beating someone two tiers higher, not *four* tiers higher!

wink Who exactly would Spidey beat 4, 3, or two tiers higher??? It's raining in Philly and I need a good laugh!!!


oh yea and Im a Spidey fanboy but this is foolishness!! rolling on floor laughing

Scoobless
Punisher?

Hitman911
Originally posted by Scoobless
Punisher?


Low:
3-D Man, Ambrose Chase, Angel, Arachne, Arana, Azrael, Beast, Black Canary, Black Tarantula, Blade, Blue Beetle (Dan Garrett), Bruenor Battlehammer, Century, Charcoal, Charlie 27, Constrictor, Creeper, Cyber, Dagger, Deathlok, Deathstroke the Terminator, Doc Ock, Drizzt Do'Urden, Elixer, Falcon, Firehawk, Gambit, Green Goblin, Hobgoblin, Iron Fist, Jakita Wagner, Karnak, Kid Devil, Killer Croc, Klaw, Lady Deathstrike, Longshot, Luke Cage, Machine Man, Man-Bat, Mercury, Midnighter, Mister Hyde, Molly Hayes, Multiple Man, Mysterio, Mystique, Nightcrawler, Nova Richard Rider (classic), Nuke, Omega Red, Orka Humbug, Prometheus, Protocide, Puck, Puma, Rage, Sabretooth, Shang Chi, Silver Samurai, Speedball, Speedfreek, Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2099, Spider-Woman, Swift, Thunder Cats, Tombstone, Triathalon, Vance Astro, Vanguard, Venom, Vermin, Victor Mancha, Vulture, Warlock (Technarchy/Phalanx), Warpath, Wizard, Wolverine, Wulfgar


Maybe he takes Lady Deathstrike, Killer Croc, Iron Fist, and Gambit???

Battlehammer
iron fist, gambit and lady deathstrike would kill punisher

Hitman911
Originally posted by Battlehammer
iron fist, gambit and lady deathstrike would kill punisher oh ok then Killer Croc and Blade?!?!?

Battlehammer
blade would beat punisher

Hitman911
Originally posted by Battlehammer
blade would beat punisher oh ok.
Logan has the record with 4 tiers when he beat Lobo even though DC vs Marvel is not considered cannon.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Hitman911
oh ok.
Logan has the record with 4 tiers when he beat Lobo even though DC vs Marvel is not considered cannon.

what?

Hitman911
Originally posted by Battlehammer
what? im saying that he beat a character 4 tiers higher. I you count that, then I don't know who else has done that.

Battlehammer
I would not count it.

Hitman911
Originally posted by Battlehammer
I would not count it. yea i though so. big grin

Hitman911
Ghost Rider could prolly take out alot of people with the PS.

Bouboumaster
Wolverine

Hitman911
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Wolverine Out of this bunch!?!?!?

High:
Abomination, Adam Strange, Aquaman, Ares (Marvel), Atlas, Aurora, Batman 1 Million, Battalion (Jackson King), Blastaar, Blob, Captain Britain, Captain Marvel Jr, Colossus, Death's Head II, Donna Troy, Emma Frost, Ghost Rider II, Grim Reaper, Guardian I, Havok, Hellstrike, Hercules (Mortal), Holocaust, The Human Torch, Invisible Woman, Iron-Man, Jean Grey (sans Phoenix), Jenny Sparks, Juggernaut (Depowered), Kang, Karate Kid, Living Laser, Mandarin, Mary Marvel, Maul, Mercer Drake, Metallo, Mimic (Exiles), Miss Martian, Mr. Fantastic, Mr. Sinister, Namor the Sub-Mariner, Nightshade, Nimrod, Northstar, Ocean Master, Osiris, Pitt, Polaris, Power Girl, Psylocke, Radioactive Man, Sand, Sasquatch, Shassa, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Supernova, Temugin, The Thing, Thunderstrike, The Tick, Ulik, Ultimo, Vision, War Machine, Wonder Man, Zzaxx


Who?? 6/10?

seaapple
Originally posted by Hitman911
Who exactly would Spidey beat 4, 3, or two tiers higher??? It's raining in Philly and I need a good laugh!!!


oh yea and Im a Spidey fanboy but this is foolishness!! rolling on floor laughing

Well, he walked right into it naughty ...what else can I do but "foolishly" bring out the classic:


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Hitman911
9/10 Firelord would whip Pete's ass!!

Bransolute
Captain Britain, Thunderstrike, Namor, or Pitt would win this.

Hitman911
Originally posted by Bransolute
Captain Britain, Thunderstrike, Namor, or Pitt would win this. Who's Namor beating in this class??

Middle:
Alexander Nero, Beta Ray Bill, Binary, Black Adam, Black Bolt, Cable (Full Power), Captain Atom, Cpt. Comet,Captain Marvel (DC), Damien Hellstrom, Doomsday, Evinlea, The Fallen One, Firelord, The Flash III (Wally West), The Flash IV (Bart Allen), General Zod, Gladiator, Green Lantern (Guy, John, Katma, Kilowog), Hyperion, Ikaris, Imperiex Probes, Kid Omega, Lobo, Loki, Magus (Post-IG), Martian Manhunter, Maxima, Mon-El, Morg, Nate Grey, Orion, Quasar, Rachel Summers (Phoenix II), Red Shift, Skreet, Supergirl, Supreme, Swamp Thing, Terrax the Tamer, Void, Waverider, Wildfire, Wonder Woman

Bransolute
Originally posted by Hitman911
Who's Namor beating in this class??

Middle:
Alexander Nero, Beta Ray Bill, Binary, Black Adam, Black Bolt, Cable (Full Power), Captain Atom, Cpt. Comet,Captain Marvel (DC), Damien Hellstrom, Doomsday, Evinlea, The Fallen One, Firelord, The Flash III (Wally West), The Flash IV (Bart Allen), General Zod, Gladiator, Green Lantern (Guy, John, Katma, Kilowog), Hyperion, Ikaris, Imperiex Probes, Kid Omega, Lobo, Loki, Magus (Post-IG), Martian Manhunter, Maxima, Mon-El, Morg, Nate Grey, Orion, Quasar, Rachel Summers (Phoenix II), Red Shift, Skreet, Supergirl, Supreme, Swamp Thing, Terrax the Tamer, Void, Waverider, Wildfire, Wonder Woman Didn't read the first post. I just thought it was another one of your "to teh deathses!!".

It would have made more sense for people among their own tiers to fight each other.

But to answer your question; Wonder Woman, and Martian Manhunter.

Hitman911
Originally posted by Bransolute
Didn't read the first post. I just thought it was another one of your "to teh deathses!!".

It would have made more sense for people among their own tiers to fight each other.

But to answer your question; Wonder Woman, and Martian Manhunter. laughing laughing out loud

Gecko4lif
spiderman takes out the tick

godking
Originally posted by Battlehammer
stabb him.........The blob can be pierced and has been.


why do I have a feeling im talking to some one who thinks thing would curf stomp Logan........... Stabbing the blob would do nothing for wolverine.

His hands would get stuck and Blob would not be damaged.

seaapple
Originally posted by Hitman911
9/10 Firelord would whip Pete's ass!!

So you think Spider-Man would win 10% of the time against someone four tiers higher? shifty

Hitman911
Originally posted by seaapple
So you think Spider-Man would win 10% of the time against someone four tiers higher? shifty ok 9. 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
999999999999999999999999999999/10

Kurash
my still vote goes for alfred

Battlehammer
Originally posted by godking
Stabbing the blob would do nothing for wolverine.

His hands would get stuck and Blob would not be damaged.

false since you know wolverine has stabbed blob before

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Hitman911
Out of this bunch!?!?!?

High:
Abomination, Adam Strange, Aquaman, Ares (Marvel), Atlas, Aurora, Batman 1 Million, Battalion (Jackson King), Blastaar, Blob, Captain Britain, Captain Marvel Jr, Colossus, Death's Head II, Donna Troy, Emma Frost, Ghost Rider II, Grim Reaper, Guardian I, Havok, Hellstrike, Hercules (Mortal), Holocaust, The Human Torch, Invisible Woman, Iron-Man, Jean Grey (sans Phoenix), Jenny Sparks, Juggernaut (Depowered), Kang, Karate Kid, Living Laser, Mandarin, Mary Marvel, Maul, Mercer Drake, Metallo, Mimic (Exiles), Miss Martian, Mr. Fantastic, Mr. Sinister, Namor the Sub-Mariner, Nightshade, Nimrod, Northstar, Ocean Master, Osiris, Pitt, Polaris, Power Girl, Psylocke, Radioactive Man, Sand, Sasquatch, Shassa, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Supernova, Temugin, The Thing, Thunderstrike, The Tick, Ulik, Ultimo, Vision, War Machine, Wonder Man, Zzaxx


Who?? 6/10?
yes.

thing,blob,namor,abomination and so forth

Hitman911
Originally posted by Battlehammer
yes.

thing,blob,namor,abomination and so forth
Namor!?!?!?!?
If both of these guy fight is a non-jobbing situation Namor would own Logan just like what he did to Venom.........who would also own Logandurverine

Hitman911
bump

Wonder Man
Leech beats Xavier

Horrificus
Quasar was banging Abstracts around, left and right, before some retarded writer decided that Annihilus was now a universal power.
Idiot.
For the last 30 years, anybody that stood up to Annihilus could beat him. He was sad.

Horrificus
Daredevil took out the whole Avengers team once.

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Horrificus
Quasar was banging Abstracts

Infinity is pretty hot and I've heard rumors about Oblivion naughty

Wonder Man
Spider-man walked all over the X-men in Sec. Wars

Wonder Man
Thor vs. Loki

Battlehammer
Originally posted by godking
Stabbing the blob would do nothing for wolverine.

His hands would get stuck and Blob would not be damaged.

false actaully. The blob would be damage and has been damage by logans claws.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Hitman911
Namor!?!?!?!?
If both of these guy fight is a non-jobbing situation Namor would own Logan just like what he did to Venom.........who would also own Logandurverine

...........Logan not venom or does he fight like him.


namor a brick melee fighter. He wolverines bread and butter.

Wonder Man
Wolverine took apart the Thing.
Namor is only a little more than him.

Hitman911
Originally posted by Battlehammer
...........Logan not venom or does he fight like him.


namor a brick melee fighter. He wolverines bread and butter. Namor>>>>Venom>>>>Logan
Agreed?

BlueDMighty
I vote Monica Rambeau be moved up, on the grounds that she has been shown capable of beating:

A Green Lantern (Kyle I believe)

Marvel's version in the way of the Emerald Gladiator

She beat Moonstone

Several Sevitors of the infinites (Gave Thor, Jack of Hearts, and Quasar a hard time)

Hitman911
Punisher has already owned Wolverine on panel....

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