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Both are the resident monks of their respective games. Neither have any spells, only their fists. Battle takes place at the Tenkaichi Budokai arena of DBZ(only knockout doesn't equal a win). As much as I love Tifa, I gotta go with my dog Zell here.

Tifa because Zell's incredibly weak.

Which is why he can pick up giant monsters and throw them.

Zell has an optimistic trait, and his Judo/karate mix matches Tifa's Street/kung-fu.

Tifa has that.. "I need to complete my mission" Trait, so, it's a tough match.

Zell throws punches, Tifa throws mostly kicks. Hmm. I'm gonna go with Zell, since punches are faster than kicks, most of the time.

That is true, punches are faster than kicks, and are overall more effective. Also, I would say that Zell also has boxing in his style. Zell is also physically stronger, tho Tifa is faster.

techniqually speeking, zack is more poewrful game wise since his limit break (if u abuse forward back then up down again and again for upward of 1,000,000 damage...) but storyline wise Tifa should be more powerful

The comment about Zell was a joke. Anyway, Tifa has better showings overall.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
That is true, punches are faster than kicks, and are overall more effective.

Well i dunno about applying real world physics to games, but in my experience kicks are alot more effective, especially if you snap it fast enough. Plus you grow tired faster blocking kick than you do for dealing them, the same cannot be said for punches because they are alot easier to dodge aswell as block.

Wrong. Kicks are much easier to dodge and counter if you know how, and are slower as well. Kicks can leave you clumsy if you f*ck up. If someone blocks a punch, so what? If someone blocks a kick, you're in trouble.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Wrong. Kicks are much easier to dodge and counter if you know how, and are slower as well. Kicks can leave you clumsy if you f*ck up. If someone blocks a punch, so what? If someone blocks a kick, you're in trouble.

Only for an ametaur, if you know your kicks you can and will shift your body weight, however if your blocking you have to be in a postion to block alot of force thus you will react slower than the attacker.

I studied karate for 3 years and am currently studing Tae-Kwon-Doe, and have been for 2, i have to know these things ^-^

Originally posted by Remindme
Only for an ametaur, if you know your kicks you can and will shift your body weight, however if your blocking you have to be in a postion to block alot of force thus you will react slower than the attacker.

I studied karate for 3 years and am currently studing Tae-Kwon-Doe, and have been for 2, i have to know these things ^-^ I am a wrestler and am to starting to learn boxing, have many martial artist friends, and am an UFC fan, I know these things.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I am a wrestler and am to starting to learn boxing, have many martial artist friends, and am an UFC fan, I know these things.

Lol, you specialise in punch, me in kicking, lol no wonder we're backing who we are XD

share the same specializations as them

Going to be a hard switch though wrestler to boxer right? I mean, wrestle is about weight transfer unles i''m mistaken, boxing it's speed.

I use judo.

Originally posted by Remindme
Lol, you specialise in punch, me in kicking, lol no wonder we're backing who we are XD

share the same specializations as them

Going to be a hard switch though wrestler to boxer right? I mean, wrestle is about weight transfer unles i''m mistaken, boxing it's speed. Wrestling is about technique, and there are some skinny ass wrestlers(not me tho, I'm 225 pounds lol).

Originally posted by Sol Valentine
I use judo.

I was gonig to take that over Tae, but i didn't know what it is? can you explain it for me pweez?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Wrestling is about technique, and there are some skinny ass wrestlers(not me tho, I'm 225 pounds lol).

Ah, coolies ^-^

How old are you by the way? (only if you don't mind my asking of course)

To be honest though i only got into it because my dad made me ^^'

Originally posted by Remindme
Ah, coolies ^-^

How old are you by the way? (only if you don't mind my asking of course)

To be honest though i only got into it because my dad made me ^^' I'm 15. I got into wrestling by choice, my dad is teaching me boxing.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I'm 15. I got into wrestling by choice, my dad is teaching me boxing. How come you decided to switch?

Originally posted by Remindme
I was gonig to take that over Tae, but i didn't know what it is? can you explain it for me pweez?

Basically throws and counters.

Although I've elaborated more upon it and use malicious counters. i almost dislocated someones arm in class once.

****!!!! 15 and 225?

Originally posted by Sol Valentine
Basically throws and counters.

Although I've elaborated more upon it and use malicious counters. i almost dislocated someones arm in class once.

****!!!! 15 and 225?

Ahh i see, I read somewhere that ever year in this world tournament Judo pwns Kick boxing. To the point where some Kick boxers forfeit if they get put again a judo martial artist

Lol, naughty boy

Originally posted by Remindme
How come you decided to switch? I didn't decide to switch. I am a registered wrestler, I am just learning boxing, tho when I get signed up for a gym I may start to officially box.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I didn't decide to switch. I am a registered wrestler, I am just learning boxing, tho when I get signed up for a gym I may start to officially box.

Ahh i see, well if you ever get something on youtube or sothing i can watch send me the link ^-^

Originally posted by Remindme
Ahh i see, I read somewhere that ever year in this world tournament Judo pwns Kick boxing. To the point where some Kick boxers forfeit if they get put again a judo martial artist

Lol, naughty boy

LOL.

Well, I was allowed to spar cuz we were gonna be used as an example of how to do certain moves and stuffs, so we were sparring and I was winning, then my classmate landed a good punch to me and got me to the floor, and I was like WTF that's an illegal move! thenhe was like 'What's wrong pussy?' And everyone started laughing, so I got up, he tried to punch me again, but I grabbed his arm, twisted it, put my foot on his shoulderblade and started outting pressure on it and I said don't you ever **** with me like that or I'll rip off your arm! And I started stomping on his shoulderblade, then he was screaming sorry, then I spat on his face and kicked him away.

My favorite move in wrestling is the accidental-on purpose elbow hehe...

Originally posted by Sol Valentine
LOL.

Well, I was allowed to spar cuz we were gonna be used as an example of how to do certain moves and stuffs, so we were sparring and I was winning, then my classmate landed a good punch to me and got me to the floor, and I was like WTF that's an illegal move! thenhe was like 'What's wrong pussy?' And everyone started laughing, so I got up, he tried to punch me again, but I grabbed his arm, twisted it, put my foot on his shoulderblade and started outting pressure on it and I said don't you ever **** with me like that or I'll rip off your arm! And I started stomping on his shoulderblade, then he was screaming sorry, then I spat on his face and kicked him away.

Lol, revenge sounds sweet, not that I'd know

My sparring partner has been doing Tae for 7 years >< all because i did karate so she kicks my ass lol, i can't even keep up with her speed it's soo frustrating Bloody L stance specialist (defensive/counter stance)

LOL I did that once and made some kid's nose bleed.

My created Judo move is the Shoulder-snapmare.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
My favorite move in wrestling is the accidental-on purpose elbow hehe...

Lol, another naughty boy

Originally posted by Remindme
Lol, revenge sounds sweet, not that I'd know

My sparring partner has been doing Tae for 7 years >< all because i did karate so she kicks my ass lol, i can't even keep up with her speed it's soo frustrating Bloody L stance specialist (defensive/counter stance)

I'll kick her ass by blinking.

Originally posted by Sol Valentine
I'll kick her ass by blinking.

I dunno, seriously, she so fast, there only one guy i've seen faster than her, and thats the instuctor whos like 6th dan

Eh, you don't have to be faster, just place yourself in the calm, and black her out with a flurry of combos or a good judo counter for me.

Originally posted by Sol Valentine
Eh, you don't have to be faster, just place yourself in the calm, and black her out with a flurry of combos or a good judo counter for me.

If she hits, she hits you in a prssure point though and they you like lose the ability to control that area properly >< i hate it, but i am learning

If she's that fast, and she is a girl, she likely doesn't have much power and can't take a hit well.

I've been hit in various pressure points a record 504 times. And plus, you have to exaust her by running around, then beat her senseless.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
If she's that fast, and she is a girl, she likely doesn't have much power and can't take a hit well.

What's with the underestimating of girls???

Originally posted by Sol Valentine
I've been hit in various pressure points a record 504 times. And plus, you have to exaust her by running around, then beat her senseless. Okay, well i'm not as tough as you, so that doesn't help ^^'

Eh. I stay calm and collected, not getting too hung over certain moves.

Originally posted by Remindme
What's with the underestimating of girls??? Girls are naturally physically weaker than guys, it's science.

Originally posted by Sol Valentine
Eh. I stay calm and collected, not getting too hung over certain moves.

Well I don't i feel the pain

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Girls are naturally physically weaker than guys, it's science.

Girls naturally have better reflexes than guys, it's science

What I mean is if you can't get a move in, twist it into your advantage.

Originally posted by Remindme
Girls naturally have better reflexes than guys, it's science Are you sure about that? They are more flexible, but I don't think either gender has better reflexes.

Originally posted by Sol Valentine
What I mean is if you can't get a move in, twist it into your advantage.

I don't know any grapples

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Are you sure about that? They are more flexible, but I don't think either gender has better reflexes.

Yep, girls also see colours more clearly than guys

Meh.